Tbh I don't think Madara really cares about defeating Hashirama, just him reliving the good old day's. Even in the final valley fight Madara had no intention of killing Hashirama instead he wanted a pound of flesh to awaken the rinnegan.
Two legendary Hokages. One of them would gladly sacrifice his life for his child to save the village and the other would empty the clip into his child to save the village.
Clearly minato could have healed from the wounds, after splitting the fox in two, he technically had a soul available. If anything that part of the fox had no one to fight with internally, which would allow that fox to obtain the body and roam freely in minato's body. and likely that minato fox possessed body would destroy the village for funzies. (What if)
Hashirama was always holding back when fighting madara I think. He never really wanted to kill him and he always had moves that could have stopped him but he always tried to convinced madara to change his ways. To think he had deity gates even before the valley of death fight is insane.
@@AceTheCap823exactly, he was far from his prime. We see a war hardened hashirama, who had reached his prime. If Minato got to his prime, he would have surpassed hashirama and even Naruto at his peak
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I think u guys fail to realize technique is key ! How would hashirama ever touch minato his speed counters hashirama healing those huge trees and golem and statue would not be able to touch minato ! And I don’t know for sure if hashirama can heal from a Kunai n the head ! Also it would be down to close quarters hashirama fighting style plays into minato hands ! While minato fighting style doesn’t play into hashirama hands ! Also n kcm2 they powers are the same shit loads of chakra minato would have similar healing abilities! And about the same attack power !
I think you're definitely downplaying Hashirama's sealing feats He has the highest feat of the deity gates surpressing the Juubi briefly If anything the Minato oneshot implies Hashirama had sealing jutsu as well when Kurama compared Minato to him That's one interpretation at least.
Its crazy how they say kushina teached minato sealing justsu... she was a child when going tyo the village at max she learned most of them from mit... the wife of hashirama, said to master all jutsu he attempted.... he was way stronger than madara.
Oh I think they’re still relevant even in the new era for sure. I think folks sleep on a lot of characters from Shippuden just because conventional wisdom says power creep should’ve left them behind, but that’s not always so. Hashirama should be behind Naruto at this point but not that far behind. Boruto is out here now using Minato’s signature technique which tells you right there Minato could still get some work done. There are lots of characters people don’t realize would probably still be able to kick plenty of ass. One of my go to examples is Nagato/Pain. Bro wasn’t beaten, he was talked down. He still had it in him to stay relevant to the power scales well into the War Arc and probably in a more minor way into the Boruto era.
Shin at best for villains chronologically. It's difficult to say for the others, but Minato may be able to scrape out a win against Ao. Ao is as far as either of them get though
To be fair Pain was basically exhausted from using the village destroying almighty push. It literally took a toll on his lifespan, and he had to fight Naruto who was freshly ready for battle, had nagato been at full strength from the start he would have easily beat naruto, especially if hinata did not intervene.
Naruto was not fully ready for battle he had been training in nature chakra or sage mode which kills 9/10 users in training and was training 24/7 sage during the day and rasenshuriken at night they both were worn out but their also both uzamaki's so they still at 50% have 5 times the chakra as any jonin
@@Reaverstudios420that doesn't really factor into this battle. Tendo could have pulled naruto as he later did, make him unable to move by stabbing him as he did later and have the female pain transport them to akatsuki's base. Tendo not being at full power gave naruto a shot at fighting, making sage mode insanely overrated.
@@mariowarion yea i agree, he did ultimately end up piecing naruto though. you could argue he won against the 6 tails too because kurama had to draw out more power in order to avoid being crushed by planetary devastation.
But you can argue Naruto not being at full strength and training using a technique that kills and exhausts most users, and a justu that uses more chakra than characters like ten ten even have, could possibly be the reason that pain was able to beat him until he got assistance from the 9 tails, you forget Hinata didn’t help she just got her hind end handed to her, ripped away and given back again. Which caused Naruto to go into a 9 tailed rage, also talkin bout help when pains while MO is literally jumping with 6 people
Both of them are true warriors. Wnere minato has a bijuu and is fast flying raijin, hashirama has wood style and his own sage art. Hashirama at full strength went up against madara back in the Days. But in Shippuden a whole shinobi army was needed. I hoped we got a extended fight hashirama versus madara like in the OVA.
Just wanna point out that Minato didn't just teleport the entire 9 tails after whipping Obito, he actually teleported Kurama along with a second bijuu dama which detonated at the new battlefield.
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my headcanon theory of hashirama's instant use sage mode is from his freakish chakra reserve and the nature of his chakra. his chakra forms life with wood release. sage mode is the world's natural energy. the fact 1st can use all 5 natures and blossom life. i think he can just focus all of his chakra together and infuse it throughout his entire body. his pupils don't change just his facial features. he just pulls and condenses all of his natural chakra together to be one with his chakra. this would explain why he doesn't need to pull from nature because 1st is a force of nature himself in his own chakra pool.
kcm1 minato has a chance if it's alive hashirama, because of the stamina and neeeding to wear him down long enough to use reaper death god, assuming he'd even be able to use it as an edo tensei.
@@NarutoExplained I bliv Hashirama wins but there is a scene where hashirama fights kyubi alone in the anime be4 The narutoKcm2 mode and he is also bleeding.I dont like scaling videos because it does not depict certain aspects e.g if Minato is running around Hashirama will never catch him and he wouldnt xpect anyone to be faster than his Brother,hashirama is the antithesis of Tail beasts and shinobi with massive like structures(susanos thats why he is that strong. Abilities matter !!! we can infer Minatos intelligence by why he had the highest intelligence scores in the academy and tobirama may be smarter than him, hiruzen is probably more knowledgeable than both and says itachi thought like a Hokage at 7 .And hiruzen witness the first 2 and thought Minato was that Good to say its not high difficult its ridiculous conssidering that hashirama never ever fough someone as smart as Minato and he is not good at genjutsu all those big Massive Golums and deighty gates are completely useless in my opinion for someone who can continously disappear. Kyubi goes massively stronger over time as we can see in the anime how small he was and how small he was infront of hashiramas buddha statues and KCM2 and baryon mode .this implies that Minato fought a much more stronger version of kyubi and obito who ambushed himand could also move between spaces and Kurama is being forced to fight by madara thats why he easily gets separated and does not fight back speaks to his psychology at that moment.I dont think that Hashirama can beat madara and kyubi at once and u can see this in the world Arc with one more difference madara has rinnegans and has lived longer and the battle comes to BASIcall a draw if kurama were to be added on his own free willl hashirama will bite the dust .Kurama compares 16 year old Minato to hashirama,Minato better IQ,better at sealling and faster. If hiruzen surpassed tobirama he should be in btn him and the first and based on what we have seen minato should be around or at that same level. Minato in the anime when he thinks obito is madara he is ready to fight him so i dont think he is not on that level.My only reason for thinking hashirama is stronger than Minato is stronger than minato will be Minato lacking the ability to Land a decisive blow. hashirama does not show any speed feats and got blitzed by Jubito while Minato escaped sometimes and talking abouts sage mode madara vs tobirama ,Minato is faster than thatb and only six paths have that same reaction. If Minato marks hashiram it is said he was in a class of his own,heal any wound and he could do any jutsu he attempted that is just a lie if his head got cut off he wouldnt heal from that so one mistake and he is dead. a sage mode minato with flying raijain level 3will be able to blitz Hashirama sage mode if he were marked .The whole other big structures and buddhas are useless since u cannot hit something that u cant hold and Minato basically should have more info on hashirama. obito + stronger version of Kyubi is as good a feat as ems madara + a weaker Kurama who was genjutsued to fight.
@@christopherdarlington2846Minato isn't faster than Tobirama. In every instance Tobirama reacts to Juubito and has to help Naruto and Minato touch Juubito. With flying raijin he still has better feats, despite this Hashirama is too strong for Tobirama
@@kakuzugoated873 U need to rewatch the series bro tobirama says it himself ,if u are talking about reaction time the only reason why minato does not react because he was mentally nerfed upon seeing his student causing the war one that aspired to become the hokage,one that killed his wife and this was confirmed in the books
@@ITACHITHEGOAT-gg4ky No he doesn't lol, he says his body flicker is faster. Plot twist, body flicker is travel speed not combat speed. In every instance of actually using flying raijin and tagging someone in a combat scenario, Tobirama outperforms him. Also why does everyone say that same thing? Do you think him being sad is nerfing him to the point where in KCM he is weaker than his base form???
If you take them in their strongest forms so give Minato access to Toad Sage Mode and KCM, I think Minato wins simply off a speed blitz in my opinion. Hashirama is a durability monster but no amount of healing factor prevents you from being decapitated. A human body is still a body, a neck is still just as easy to slice as ever. Hashirama is a monster in that all of his stats are basically topped out, but he is not the fastest Shinobi or the hardest hitter, he's just a crazy beefy all-rounder, but he has certain flaws, like not having the speed to keep up with Minato, or not having a dojutsu to resist a Tsukuyomi from Itachi, and so on. There are Shinobi who have viable win-conditions vs. Hashirama.
@@coaxi4162 he didn’t mean it literally you clown hashirama is insanely smart when it comes to fighting💀 far smarter then minato plus minato was no where near 10 steps ahead
You forgot to mention the fact that sage mode amps the sensory abilities and perception of hashirama which permits him to sense attacks without the need to see them. Madara while having hashirama's sage mode dodged a téléportation attack from tobirama. So hashirama should be able to react to minato's flying raijin on top of fact that he knows and used to how it operates
No, that was never stated as a general ability for all sage mode. This is an ability, as far as we know, exclusive to toad sage users. Like he said in the video, we don’t know anything about hashiramas sage mode or the amps that it gives him. We don’t even know the degree of strength hashirama comes to when he uses it.
@@JD-mf6ooLiterally Blind Madara was fighting with EMS sharingan Sasuke. And Madara avoided all his katana attacks. Also Madara avoided Tobirama attacks from his back. That proves that all sage modes can save from deadly attacks. That was the only chance of Minato defeating Hashirama. And he can't use his only chance against Hashirama. Hashirama low diff him.
@@Sueiei29737 Madara dodging katana attacks doesn’t prove that its because of sage mode. You have to realize that Madara is going against a much weaker opponent as ems sasuke is nothing compared to ems Madara. Also Madara wasn’t blind fighting sasuke, he has one rinnegan. As for tobirama it can easily be said that Madara is used to flying raijin attacks, as that’s not tobiramas first time using it in a fight. Also tobiramas flying raijin is slower than minatos while the madara who dodged it was amped by the rinnegan as well as hashirama cells. Theres absolutely nothing that concretely reveals the attributes of Senju sage mode. There’s more evidence leaning to other reasons rather than senju sage mode. No, all sage mode is absolutely 100% not the same. Simply go compare toad sage Naruto to snake sage kabuto. They have completely different abilities. Minatos only chance of beating hashirama doesn’t exist unless you mean base hashirama vs edo kcm2 minato. Senju sage mode hashirama scales far higher than all forms of minato. Even though it makes hashirama stronger, we don’t exactly know how.
I don't think they were close to full power as edo tensei. When Madara came to life he bodied everyone in base. I think that a fight between Minato and Hashi would like a boruto fight. Wide scale attacks wouldn't work on either person. It would be all close quarters
Minato is a genius and probably has better technique and iq but he also died young at 24 so he never got to his potential. Hashirama is a cheat code, his charkra levels are similar to Naruto’s, he’s completely mastered sage mode, he has far better healing than Tsunade with not even have to weave any hand signs plus he’s got his overpowered wood release that can summon whole forests and poison with also being able to summon his overpowered massive wood golems. I can’t see anyway of Minato winning this fight besides using a sealing technique but that even probably wouldn’t work
It’s not even close bro… I don’t think he’ll waste time with this one, as interesting of a video it would be. Hidan wipes zabuza and zabuza is my fav villain
I think if Minato was born earlier and was taught under Hashirama and trained and fought against stronger opponents a lived until he was over 30 he could of mastered sage mode very early and more jutsu’s where he could of surpassed Hashirama. He just didn’t have any opponents to make him push himself to get stronger since he was the strongest in his time period
yep, and Hashirama had Madara, Minato wasn't a reincarnation of Ashura or Indra which automatically gives them not only power but a VERY strong rival, noone in Minato's time really gave him much of a challange compared to that.
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I really liked this video & would love to listen to more versus videos in the Naruto/Boruto series lol. I love the way you go over the facts, with each ninja's jutsu's, abilities, strengths, & weaknesses... I would love to see who would win between Sasuke Sarutobi & the old leader of the Uzumaki clan I forgot his name, since they were both stated to be stronger than Hashirama & Madara at the time. I would love to know how Hashirama learned Sage Mode, he needs more screen time..
2:46 "minato made a even faster version of flying raijin stage 2" 🤔 FTG is instantanious, stage 2 is not faster than normal, it's just Minato teleporting to a moving object just like Tobirama did against Izuna. 🤷🏻
Minato blitzs his own flying rijan when he teleported the 10 tails bijuu bomb. He teleports with the bomb and teleports back before the the bomb ever got sent to the island
Realistically, Minato should be able to one shot blitz because he literally teleports especially if there’s no prep involved. Hashirama also has no knowledge of Minato while Minato has some knowledge of hashi assuming it’s in characters. People always make the excuse that Hashirama is super hard to kill but he was literally going to kill himself with a Kunai. And for all the hype we had, we’ve seen he’s not a comparable healer to Tsunade. Yeah he instaheals cuts and scratches, but Tsunade survives bisection, heart stabs, internal organs being destroyed, shinra Tensei, basically anything short of decapitation. Minato should win because speed is usually the deciding factor in Naruto battles
Kill himself with a kunai? That version of him has no feat or statements. Not comparable to Tsunadi? Madara literally said she's inferior 😂 Minato was born after Hashirama and yet despite all his speed and jutsus...he never stole the title of "god of shinobi," despite being famous
@@Rck-vert So now we’re picking and choosing So you say no feats in the first sentence, then use no feats to say Hashirama is a better healer despite us seeing him heal nothing of tsunades caliber. Then ignore Madara being surprised by tsunades healing, also ignoring that Madara never knew of tsunades status as world wide best medical user. Ok and Hiruzen got that title instead LOL and we see him do what exactly, yeah basically nothing
I believe that you are right especially about how unlikely it would be for the two of them to fight in the first place it would ve interest to see how much more minato could grown had he has been able to learn directly from hashimara.
Also we don't actually get to see Minato grow as much as hashirama pretty much because he died way younger then hashirama did. I think it would be a better match up if Minato had more growth.
I love this approach! Finally a video on the subject which actually treats a fight like a fight, and not like a spreadsheet. Let me explain, but i am bad at being concise: 100% of the existing videos look in the data books and then to manga evidence and say oh of this dude beats this dude but the first dude beat the third dude, then the second dude who beat the first dude must clearly beat the third dude... no? Its like saying Rock paper scissors that scissors beat rock because they beat paper which beats rock, but this is false because you are looking at circular balanced matchups. Now let me explain what i mean by a fight like a fight. In a fight you might be the best swords man in the world but if you bring your sword skills into a dogfight with fighter planes they mean nothing! If you try to engage in melee combat vs the worlds greatest swordsman in your F35 or SU-52 in the ardenne forrest or inside osaka castle, you wont even get the jet inside the mission perimiter. bUt pEd3AR yOU ArE nOT gONA mElEE wITh aN f35! Correct that is the point! You wouldn't fight on the enemies premise if you can avoid it! This is why Hokage pick their teams for each mission with consideration and deliberation! This is why Hokage is a lot of governing and paperwork alone in due to the number of C-Rank missions with simple yet important tasks. In Fact its one of the main Reasons why in my Opinion the UCHIHA SHOULD have had a constant pressence within the Hokage Office as Head of Police, the Hokage leadership model is actually quite dumb. Having a so called "minimal-state" is an extreme liability both for justice and for the people in charge. In Naruto and Boruto it looks like the Assistant is a wonder fix, but then you are ignoring the facts, one of the reasons why things are better under Naruto post 4th war, is because the villages share the burden of governance, and help each other out through diplomacy. The Funato war in the mists, is mitigated because the Leaf just happens to be able to help on their own accord, while the leafs research mission is assisted by the mist as well. they are essentially 5 Ministers to deal with problems and can load distribute the governance by manpower-resources in the executing power branch. Before this time the individual villages were prone to coup detat and when international subjects came up they were solved with wars usually they came together, it is as they say: 1 misfortune usually doesn't come alone. Okay but what does this have to do with the fighting matchups? So glad you asked! First of all being able to assign the best ninja for the job, not a new concept it predates villages, but was systematized and increased survival rates when it did get implented and since improved with the emergence of the shinobi village system. The very point is that this has existed for so many generations because its pretty smart! Minato loses to Hashirama because he is weak vs. Hashirama not because Hashirama is broken AF. Powerscaling isn't that simple. In fact if that was the case Naruto and Sasuke would have STOMPED Jigen even with his little juubi temporary power buff. Jigen might have just about matched Naruto but his body took an insane toll hence why he had to undergo this special sleep Amado helped him with. That and the fact that this concept is ancient and still borderline top-shelf inspiration from Dragonball which Kishimoto and his team are greatly respectful of and Akira Toriyama's style in general. Anyway i nearly digressed here, the point is that Jigen was the worst possible Match up for Naruto and Sasuke, but they had no other people in their arsenal to help with this. Naruto's and Sasukes biggest character flaw post chapter 699 is that they believe they have to do everything by themselves, because they told themselves that is how it was going to be when they made it. In fact Ashura must be in agonizing pain within Naruto, Naruto prior to being hokage never considered himself as pivotal for sucess, this was Indras philosophy; success weakened Narutos greatest strength i.e. his abilty to mobilize support from other people. Again nearly side-tracked but i have a point with this, Naruto and Sasuke decided to take on Jigen just the two of them, but Jigen had abilities tha basically nullified their combined strength even with their teamwork. The very reason why Shikamaru was promoted to chunin during the first exam arch was because he beyond any of the others not only understood this, he was able to demonstrate it. Despite him not winning his fight and he gave up, he demonstrated Tobiramas original intention of the rank, know when not to fight and save yourself rather than losing your own and your teams lives as well as the mission objective, lose the objective save your lives is the optimal outcome, a philosophy he even died for. Just as Rock Lee would be decimated in a Genjutsu or Ninjutsu only fight, Madara nearly died vs Might Guy 8Gates Midnight Elephant. Just like Boruto with no flying ability would be absolutely f'd vs the Juubikasuki even if he matched that scenario in power, and if you don't know because you are an Anime Only Fan, don't look it up, and you will likely forget the mention of it before anything is spoiled anyway, so all good. Point is yeah power scaling is a start but it doesn't mean anything, you need to look at not just your afinity for a branch of shinobi styles, but the individual abilities you can use as a tool. Sasuke kind of preaches this. A ninja makes do with the tools he has. His point is that you shouldn't rely on the same party trick, you don't know which situation you will end up in, your true skill is identifying your win condition; do it fast, make a decision if its feasible, and if it is make a plan and then try executing it with skill, speed, element of surprise, and resource management in the window of opportunity while keeping an escape plan. All that while constantly being aware of resources on both sides of the fight, and not being caught off guard by enemy deception. This is what control means. Boruto being such a resource for Sasuke vs Momoshiki is what caused momoshiki, an otherwise overpowering adversary, to be defeated. Ocular powers mean nothing if they can't see the threat. Your eyes mean nothing if there's no light. Finally we have a video who opens with: Minato's skillset is like a bishop in front of a king, the bishop cant take the king, but the king can take the bishop, circumstances matter! It doesnt matter that the King can only move 1 tile, if the bishop is in range and has no legal moves. It doesn't matter if you have Water release if your adversary can perform lightning release, the strongest water dragon is worthless the moment it becomes a lightning rod. Flying Raijin L2 is worthless if you can't place a mark, or throw it anywhere. KCM is useless if your sealing wood techniques can suppress it. Byakugan is uselss if you get bloking smoke, or suffer sensory overload. As Itatchi puts it, ALL techniques have at least 1 weakness. Just pray you don't end up in a situation where you have nothing in your arsenal to utilize it. Or simply so few that you need a miracle. And that is why Hashirama wins. Also a Kage should hire ministers/secretaries.
A wood dragon that absorbs chakra is useless if it can't get hold of its enemy... Please explain how Hashirama will be able to tag Minato... Next to impossible. Even if he does Minato can just teleport away again. Even Ay who is most certainly faster than Hashirama couldn't tag him...
Okay hear me out. Tobirama created that justu at 16 years old. And Hashirama helped not only that he's able to counter it like Madara he's got to tag him. And then hit him. And a Rasangan isn't one tapping Hashirama. And I don't see how Minato is gonna deal with deep forest bloom or emergence, or wood Golum. Or any other crazy crap Hashirama can do. Like heal arms instantly close all his wounds instantly. Without trying. He's on a different plain of power.
On top of that, Hashirama's base speed is no pushover. Minato's base speed was compared to KCM1 Naruto. Edo Rinnegan Madara reacted and blizt KCM2 Naruto who should scale higher than base Minato in speed. Yet rinnegan Madara is slower than alive blind Madara. The same alive Madara that alive Hashirama had no problem with keeping up with in taijutsu. So if KCM1 Naruto=Minato's base speed
Because tbt no one could beat minato his abilities far outclasses the golden age ! Also I don’t know if people realize that a base rasengan for the most part has beaten every enemy ! Momoshiki whiped itachi 30% clone whiped ! Pain whiped ! Third raikage whiped ! The rasengan is actually underated ! A rasengan can do the same as a tailed beast bomb it’s the same thing hashirama redirects those attacks for a reason he would be decapitated
@@Slickydicky69420 He's talking about hashirama Madara said that about hashirama to the 5 kages "Every jutsu he attempted, he was in a class his own, everyone considered him the ultimate shinobi"
I agree with you it’s not as close as people would want and it’s heavily in Hashirama’s favor. I tend to interpret the times people say “Minato was the greatest” or “Hiruzen was the greatest” with that same qualifier you basically applied, “in their day/of their generations.” But Hashirama and Madara remain at the pinnacle of ninjatude until Naruto and Sasuke. Would still probably be a hell of a fight though.
This is mostly a hard fight of 2 vastly different styles of combat with minato being all about speed and single target attacks which usally gives him a massive advantage in 1v1 but hashirama is just so powerful with his ninjutsu and regen i dont see minato having a way to put hashirama down permanently barring a jutsu that seals him away. That said hashirama also would have huge trouble tagging minato given his speed and teleportation so killing minato would be nigh impossible outside a scenario that prevents him from just leaving the battlefield to recover. In such a scenario though hashiramas insane aoe and stamina would give him the overall edge.
I think it would be interesting to see Hashirama using his wood style to pull in all of the life force energy around him, including Minato’s, thus making Minato tired.
The Flying Thunder God Second Step/Level technique isn't faster than the normal FTG Technique; it's just a two-stage technique (that Obito was unable to react to in time).
No matter what happens, at least we know that Minato will always be the coolest Hokage, for me the coolest character in the whole anime. If Minato hadn't died so soon, he would have surpassed Hashirama for sure. But I don't understand one thing and I'm a little angry about how they made Hashirama's mokuton OP. They want too much from the wood, when the mokuton can deter and stop the "bijuu dama". Even wood should have weaknesses like flammability not to mention something that creates something like an atomic explosion. They also never explained to us how Hashirama came to such a unique sage mode. The fact that Minato does not control sage mode fully is only the reason that Kishimoto realized at a certain time that he wanted Hashirama to be stronger than Minato, so he had to make him weaker in some way. I see no reason why a genius like Minato should have a problem mastering a full-fledged sage mod.
@@tmavibes Kishimoto could have easily decided to make Minato and Fugaku the reincarnations of Ashura and Indria as well. Then it would suit you, wouldn't it? Be quiet.
@@apomalachel8787 coulda shoulda woulda, won’t make it true. He’s the writer. It wasn’t done. The same way GOD writes our stories, you can say “could” all you want. Won’t make it true. That wasn’t part of the story, Naruto ended in 2017 ITS DONE. Now you on to trash Boruto series
@@tmavibes After all, I also wrote that if Minato had not died earlier, he would have surpassed Hashirama. From the beginning I take it as a what if situation. Read carefully next time. Either way, the fact that someone is the reincarnation of the two does not necessarily mean that they are the strongest in the world. What if Minato had the potential to surpass Ashura without being his reincarnation. Ashura was also just a person who existed in the world.
@@apomalachel8787 after all I wrote I said SHOULDA COULDA WOULDA won’t make it true. You keep saying IF IF IF. THERE IS NO IF’S these anime characters aren’t real, I know you worship Minato your idol but he doesn’t exist. READ CAREFULLY NEXT TIME GOOFY. If they are the reincarnation of someone in that story line it does mean they are the STRONGEST. The closet to Otsusuki power. The ORIGINALS. Hashirama is 1000000 times stronger. NARUTO IS 10000 times stronger. Goodnight. The show ended. Minato is dead. He is no where near Madara Naruto, jinchuriki obito level. AT ALL
Theory, what if his sage mode is intrinsic to his wood style.Wood style is the only ninjutsu that is "alive" what if the trees he grows gather sage energy for him and he then absorbs it.
I feel like minato wins at any point if he can sneak a seal on hashirama (which from what ive seen manga & anime that's exactly how he fights 🤔) now when kcm1 & sage mode comes in like a prolonged battle he wins in certain ways (i.e. what he was finna do to killer bee) but i will say throughout all fights between him & hashirama its basically a fly & fly swatter once he get lucky its over 1000🫸's =GG if one lands Pollen Field=GG KCM RasenTailed Beast Bomb + 2nd Stage Flying Ryjinn = GG Speed + hand placed sneaky seals= Win in all ways Hashirama didnt know minato upgraded the flying Ryjinn twice times technically he only learns about the upgrades during the 4th war and if they had a normal meeting on the battlefield, barley knowing anything about eachother, like he did with obito he wins but if they know what eachother is capable of its a hard win for minato except my specific conditions above
Sage Hashirama allows him to dodge most of minato’s attacks and with his woodstyle jutsu KCM is literally almost out of the picture since his woodstyle allows him to suppress the nine tails cloak. Not to mention Minato’s sage mode is not that good, after one teleportation and one rasengan from sage minato, dude lost sage mode as fast as he got it.
Name one fight minato won with his overwhelming body flicker? But yet in the war arc he out sped the other hokages 🤔. Does that make sense. His body flicker never gave him victory against any of his known opponents ( not obito, not raikage, not bee, not madara, & not the 50 ninjas).
A dope comment I saw on Quora a while back stated this : *His chakra levels will never reach hashirama's level, but his skills will make him an unmatched threat to anyone* *Minato Namikaze was not the god of shinobi, he was their death reaper* Both of these Hokage are dope and unmatched in their retrospective attributes. Storywise we know generally The Ashura/Indra incarnates will be the strongest seemingly. So you really gotta give it up to ninja who names reach that level of renown like Minato did💯
@@EbenezerSkroodgenone of them are stronger than hashirama. Sakura was/relative to Tsunade somewhat. And Madara clowned on Tsunade. Even with kakashi hax his stamina hasn't been shown to be able to substain against someone like hashirama. We already know kakashi can't kamui large things.. Orochimaru is slept on but still can't even compare to Uchiha like the story showed. We're talking about him vs a man who grew up killing uchiha😂
“2 of the strongest character in the series” bro is forgetting about Madara(Juubidara) and Kaguya. Love Minato to death but he’s losing to even WM Obito who was stated to be Madaras equal.
I didn't say they were THE TWO STRONGEST characters in the series...I say TWO OF THE STRONGEST....which is factually correct...In Naruto's manga, both of these characters if you take all characters at their strongest form, are in the top 13...which makes them two of the strongest....
@@NarutoExplained aghhhhh ok ok I see. I misread. My fault there. Makes much more sense and yes Hashirama and Minato are without a doubt 2 of the strongest in Naruto
Dead bodies were used to create the pains. Meeting it half way, the death god reaper seal can be used can be used by the reanimated. Would it work with clones?
Minato and Kushina were likely closer to twenty in Minato Gaiden, not twenty. Minato is not using Kyūbi Mode, he is using the full Kurama Mode. which is much stronger than Kyūbi Mode. Hashirama's Wood Release automatically gave him both Water and Earth Release, so he did have a slight advantage in learning all five.
The dome for Hashirama as a point is not necessarily that powerful. It would be similar to Unchange versus Undead Unluck. Andy needed Fuko to deliver the power that killed Gena, but Minato would have the ability to deliver the attack on his own. This is not to say that other jutsu might be able to finish Minato, but the dome is too big to be an effective shield against Minato. The point is that I think you overvalued that dome in your argument. I do not believe that it could stop the rasengan at all as a mark inside the dome would allow the attack. It doesn't matter how much energy it can stop if it cannot be deployed between the user and the energy.
A major problem is everyone thinks that Madara and minato are faster than kcm naruto, but most hokage are relative in speed and can hurt each other. Madara dimply has a counter to Minatos sneaking and teleporting and has wood style the other hokage can't handle
Still watching the video. But to add he was fast enough to teleport in front of guy in 8 gates mode. And I didn't hear him mention that in the Obito fight he also put a teleportation seal on Obito, that was a finisher right there.
Raikage is faster than Minato he doesnt react as fast as minato but the raikage faster. I can use this argument raikage almost blutz teleportation and ftg
The Raikage is not faster than Minato. There's a very good reason the databooks call Minato the greatest in godlike speed. And there's a very good reason full powered KCM1 Naruto gets compared to Minato after he blitzed past the Raikage with body flicker
I think that this particular matchup is less about who hits harder but about who can use his power to the fullest during the entire fight. We already know that Hashirama has more raw power than Minato. In fact, Minato himself would know too. Because of that I don’t think Minato would go for “I need to hit him hard”. Rather, his best option lies in how he typically fights. Which would be a combination of sealing, teleportation and instant kill moves. Minato’s first priority would be to limit Hashirama’s power output or jutsu using some haxed Uzumaki seals. For large scale attacks aimed directly at him he will most likely counter with the guiding thunder move (ripping open space-time and just teleporting an attack elsewhere or just back at Hashirama). As for his main means of offense, rather than a Rasengan clashing with some wood construct, Minato would exploit the FTG for a perfectly timed surprise attack to one-hit kill (like kunai straight through the head or lopping the head off). There’s just no way this would a “who has the bigger gun” type of fight. That said, while Hashirama absolutely has the edge in power, there are definitely arguments for how Minato could realistically win.
@@TavaresSZN Hashirama should be able to sense it before it happens and regenerate, unless his head gets sliced off. Then again, he might sense it and not he fast enough.
I have to Disagree here. Hashirama is mostly certainly a type counter for minato. However minato’s raw speed is most likely getting him the Dub. Minato In Base was faster than Sage mode hashirama and he even kept up with 1 eyes Jubidara. If you add sage mode as well as KCM2 Minato would most likely be too fast for hashirama to track. Let alone hit. And this is all while avoiding the instant teleportation. Of FTG. Personally I would have to say the battle goes something like this: Minato and Hashi Square up. Minato Instantly Rushs hashirama, hashi follows by backing up while weaving hand signs for his 1000 hand wood statue. As he summons it minato starts to play koi running around throwing kunai left and right until he gets one onto the statue head. He then teleports to that kunai and rushes hashirama. They get into a taijutsu battle in which hashi would have the edge however minatos extreme speed evens the playing field. As hashirama starts to summon pollen minato moves fast purposely taking a stab word from hashirama in order to place a seal onto him. Minato then teleports away only to teleport back and plant a rasengan onto hashirama’s Face killing him. (As strong as his healing factor is, even those who surpassed it (jubidara) still almost died when their head was attacked).
I think Minato has enough hacks that he could unsurprisingly beat Hashirama, but he would still be an underdog. Two points that I think you take a little out of context is (1) Naruto beat the third raikage with hundreds of clones on the battlefield, so he was only using his partial power. Say this bc you mentioned how Hashirama only used a 10th of his power at one point in video. (2) it’s true the 9 tails plus Obito is weaker than plus madara, but Hashirama didn’t need to worry about the village, a dying wife, and a newborn child. Plus Hashirama’s jutsu is a walking counter to a tailed beast. Whereas minatos jutsu is a walking counter to shinobi.
What if Minato can't over power hashirama but with speed (especially with kcm) and sealing (like a chakra suppression seal to cut off his power and regeneration, ftg marker) could lock him up or do him in
Hashirama may be stronger, but how does he hit Minato? Wouldn’t the battle just end in a draw if Minato can’t kill Hashirama and Hashirama can’t touch Minato?
Hashirama has big aoe attacks that Minato wouldn't be fast enough to get out of the way of, and if he teleports to another are with FTG then he just BFR's himself.
@@numberhunter62nothing in the story states that Minato couldn’t avoid them. You just made that up for an argument. Minato could easily teleport away and then teleport back to the fight. No one would win. It’s an immovable force vs unstoppable object type of battle
@@numberhunter62 did you know that uchiha cannot use the power of rinnegan, that is why they need to control the tailed beast for gain large chakra . And in anime no uchiha perform all the ability of rinnegan at once, Only nagato perform all the ability of rinnegan at perfect time interval in the leaf invasion
he wasnt overpowering kurama!!! kushina was literally using chakra chains on the kurama she was the one overpowering kurama lol. minato is not close to hashirama level
I agree that Hashirama is stronger, has more jutsu, and has more options beating Minato, but you keep saying Minato has nothing to take Hashirama out. You say the wood barrier would stop the rasengan and I believe you, but how would Hashirama do against a Rasengan to the face? Yes, Hashirama could dodge but Minato needs one attack to develop a counter to that. I think Minato wouldn't give Hashirama a chance to use all his jutsu, the rasengan is the strongest thing he needs and one good plan. Hashirama is known to be a little dense, I think Minato's smarts and speed stops Hashirama's power and battle IQ.
Makes you realize how cracked he was in power. Minato wasn't even in his prime yet. Kinda makes sense, you can put alive Minato closer to white mask obito in power. Thats basically knocking on the door of ten tails level.
I feel like if Minato can find a lethal point of strike he would probably win Hashirama, he was significantly faster than him like significantly faster. Speed beats raw power honestly like the only reason Hashirama would come out in top is just cause of his body regeneration really not the raw power.
You forget as long as Minato has a seal going round, he can shot any bijuu dama or power shot can be teleported directly besides Hashirama what shield he have would be useless
So many points brought up in this video can be disproven by simply reading the manga. "Its stated that RDS can be countered by someone stronger than you" meanwhile Minato used it on Kurama. Your point about Nagato "struggling" with taking Naruto's soul is also invalid. If you see the pains take souls you will notice that the statue has to have his mouth open before you take the body. This happens in literally every scene its used. Nagato had zero difficulty with naruto's soul and there was no indication of fear in his face while naruto was absolutely freaking out. It wasn't complete because ITACHI stepped in with the Blade of Totsuka. B and Naruto were definitely going to die had itachi not stepped in. Also Nagato was being controlled by kabuto who clearly didn't know how to use Nagatos ability nor was he as smart. Nagato always takes souls from the head first so if the soul manages to split like in orochimaru's case, the person will simply die. Instead kabutos Moronic ass chose to steal the soul body first. The point is that There are so many parts of the manga that tell us your arguments for many things are incorrect. Using DIRECT quotes from Naruto characters provides the best results. hasn't Again you said Minato is smarter and faster which source material agrees with but you said Hashirama is more powerful and would win due to overwhelming strength. But source material again disagrees with you as VERY powerful Naruto villians are constantly losing to people with high IQ and no power. ie Every Shikamaru fight especially against akatsuki, almost all fights where Sakura wins, Minatos fight against Obito was won so fast because Minato was able to figure out Obitos Hax in less than a minute. Or better yet Kaguya who is literally still alive because she was so overwhelmingly strong they had to seal her away. Hashirama fought Madara and Kurama for 24 hours. Minato beat obito and full powered Kurama in less than a few hours while dealing with several other battlefield concerns like his son and kushina being in danger. Hashirama regularly left the village in danger because he never permanently solved problems. Minato permanently solved problems. Sealed Kurama in naruto and never became a threat to the village again and he beat obito so bad that he didn't go back until the war arc. Cherry picking data shows bias. If the manga says something then you should indeed believe it.
Hashirama has firepower to get the W. However I don’t think Minato will get scratched. Thats just my honest opinion. I think the win-con for Minato is far much easier which is TOUCH Hashirama. If the Flying Raijin seal is on the God of Shinobi even he is rendered a walking corpse as long as Minato warps far away enough to evade Hashirama’s big attacks which should be a low difficulty task for Minato since he has dealt with the Ten-Tails/Jyuubi and literally left with only one missing arm. He is extremely difficult to pin down, and its that reason I feel Hashirama actually struggles in this matchup. Flying Raijin is not a joke at all. Hashirama’s jutsu, and wood release is really powerful but Minato literally countered Kamui, indisputably the most powerful ability in the Naruto verse, and it took him less than a second to adapt and he did it multiple times to prove his awareness is a living b*tch. Its up there with Sasuke Rinnegan abilities. The matchup is actually hugely in Minato’s favor once he gets Kyuubi since he obtains the healing properties the likes of Naruto since if Minato dies, the Kyuubi does and that won’t do. So Hashiram’s win-con for having healing/longevity is moot and void. I don’t think Minato stomps but him losing is pretty much impossible. He doesn’t need to go for the kill, if the Flying Raijin seal is set its GG’s well played. But nice vid I enjoyed the whole watch.
People really overplay flying raijin to the point where they think he can take on hashirama, hashirama probably already knows about the technique, we have seen the versatility of wood style minato wouldn’t be able to get a kunai near hashirama or anywhere he wants to because hashirama owns the terrain , he owns every fight he is in , this guy can cover the battlefield in poison , minato only fest his how fast he will be able to flee
Minato's body flicker jutsu is so so so overwhelming & fast that he always have to rely on FTG to beat or stalemte his opponents. Minato's character is confusingly written. I like him alot, & kishimooto did a good job, but his character can be very confusing. He was literally going toe to toe with younger obito. And barely won. 👍
Barely won? The literal second minato figured out how kamui works he two-shotted obito and made him flee. All this while his wife and village are being destroyed and dying. He's lucky minato had to fall back to protect the village or minato would have followed him into kamui and finished him
@@myke3878 OMG minato literally said , "" the one who is a moment quicker will win"". Minato barely won against a very young obito. This version of obito would get beaten by hashi or madara. And guess what, hashi & madara dont even have FTG 🤣😂. No offense. 👍 Minato is a good character, i love him. But kishimooto wrote him confusingly. Minato tried stabbing raikage shield with a bare kunai 😂. Minato's body flicker jutsu is so so so fast and reliable that he always need to rely on FTG. Kishimooto clearly didnt think through these things, so its safe to not accept certain things.
@@kelvinallen9327wow he needs to rely on his main jutsu just like Naruto relied on kurama and sasuke relied on his eyes it’s something that they have why wouldn’t they rely on it
@@CWTempest My point is, people bring up the whole "" minato arrived at the battle field first"" argument. My point is, if his own natural speed is so so so so so so so superuorily overwhelming, then why he Needs To Rely on FTG so so so so much?? Or maybe its the fact that his natural speed is & was never a threat to people like Ay, Bee, younger Obito, etc. Minato fought the 50 ninjas he uses FTG. He fought Ay & Bee, he needs to use FTG. He fought younger Obito, he needs to use FTG. And ""so called"" slower characters like Hashi, Madara, & Tobirama would handle minato's problems ""without"" FTG. But maybe Kishimooto decided to change up his character. In his fight with younger obito, he himself admitted that ""the one that is one moment quicker, will win"". But his bias fans say, "" minato overwhelmed obito"" 🤣😂. It was a very very close fight. But now i guess, maybe kishimooto changed his character to be much stronger or faster? 👍
why is naruto getting downplayed just to boost minato in this fight? in this fight you kinda forget that hashirama can get marked with the flying raijin and thats far more easier than you realise and taking his head off with that isnt far from the question since from a speed point minato is faster than hashirama but in sage mode maybe he can dodge and in this case minato can just use that move he did with tobirama but instead use a clone. in a battle of power minato loses against hashirama thats obvious
Yeah but even though his sealing jutsu isn't "that good" according to himself, he's damn doof with it and could definitely do something like sealing him
If Minato Tagged 1st Hokage,while stationary blocking a teleported- biju strike.An Odama Rasengan , while enclosed in Hoshirama block dome . Or the 1st Death Seal contract Block, in history .Or an Orichamaru partial seal _hand or feet can lead 2 defeat, 4 Hoshirama. An evil Hoshirama would summon the Gedo Maza with his Biju counters & make Minato ,leave the destroyed battlefield injured ,... but 4 & 2 do what, when he returned. Minato has a song in real life of the Life & Death of the 3rd Hokage. Hoshirama always admit to being out of practice when not in his time. Minato planned 4 time travel battles.
In terms of raw potential, Minato definitely was the only shinobi who could've surpassed hashirama without a kekke genkai or being a reincarnation of indra/ashura if he had lived long enough. Minato was the peak strength of his time and no one was able push him hard enough to the point to use sage mode when it was there the whole time but no one was strong enough to bring it out and make minato use it in battle conditions like in 4th great ninja war. While someone like Hashirama had always faught opponents stronger then him at a very young age and someone like Madara to push him in battle even when no one could to reach his full potential in battle. It's just that minato needed a good enough rivel or time to achieve his potential.
14 year old Obito pulled up to konoha….It’s messed up how that turned out 😒 Kid sent him to his early grave,I guess it’s just a thing for students to pack up their sensei when the heat turns up in Naruto lol
Hashirama didnt stop training till his death... Madara with rinegan still to struggle to defeat Hashirama.
they not gonna like you for this comment
Tbh I don't think Madara really cares about defeating Hashirama, just him reliving the good old day's. Even in the final valley fight Madara had no intention of killing Hashirama instead he wanted a pound of flesh to awaken the rinnegan.
To be fair Madara couldn't use his full power with rinnegan (couldn't even use limbo, which would allow him to win imo) or much of his arsenal.
Hashirama has hashirama cells
Madara never faught Hashirama with the rinnegan…
Two legendary Hokages.
One of them would gladly sacrifice his life for his child to save the village and the other would empty the clip into his child to save the village.
Hashirama said you can always make another child
Guess we know what happened to his son
Boruto killed this franchise
Clearly minato could have healed from the wounds, after splitting the fox in two, he technically had a soul available. If anything that part of the fox had no one to fight with internally, which would allow that fox to obtain the body and roam freely in minato's body. and likely that minato fox possessed body would destroy the village for funzies. (What if)
@@keyshalvern7350what BS are you spouting 😂
Hashirama was always holding back when fighting madara I think. He never really wanted to kill him and he always had moves that could have stopped him but he always tried to convinced madara to change his ways. To think he had deity gates even before the valley of death fight is insane.
and edo rinnegan madara lost against edo sage hashirama
They both never wanted to kill each other but still never disrespected each other by holding back in a fight.
@@guto_molthat was a clone u making stuff up
@@ariyoayodejiifeoluwa65madara was trying to kill hashirama what are you saying
@@sasukethelast9515 only once did they have an actual to the death fight
It is ultimately unfortunate that Minato never really reached his peak.
Like dude imagine if he reached his peak? He might be ten tails level. Crazy he was only 24 when he died
@@Yesboiii99I mean if the Naruto Retsuden statement is accurate, a hypothetical Minato would be a hell of a lot stronger than ten tails level😭
@@AceTheCap823exactly, he was far from his prime. We see a war hardened hashirama, who had reached his prime. If Minato got to his prime, he would have surpassed hashirama and even Naruto at his peak
@@Yesboiii99damn he was my age when he died
No he would not be stronger than 10 tails. Only ninja with otsusuki genetics via Naruto Sasuke borito can reach that level so hush
First of a few longer videos we got planned for this month. Team Naruto Explained has been working like crazy on a few 20-30 minute videos for you guys!
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Dude that’s so exciting man! I know I’m in the minority but I love long format videos!!
The 2 best characters to set the ball rolling,I’ve always known Hashirama and Minato to have been ELITE Shinobi and this right here is a W analysis.
Thank you team •Naruto Explained•
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I think u guys fail to realize technique is key ! How would hashirama ever touch minato his speed counters hashirama healing those huge trees and golem and statue would not be able to touch minato ! And I don’t know for sure if hashirama can heal from a Kunai n the head ! Also it would be down to close quarters hashirama fighting style plays into minato hands ! While minato fighting style doesn’t play into hashirama hands ! Also n kcm2 they powers are the same shit loads of chakra minato would have similar healing abilities! And about the same attack power !
I think you're definitely downplaying Hashirama's sealing feats
He has the highest feat of the deity gates surpressing the Juubi briefly
If anything the Minato oneshot implies Hashirama had sealing jutsu as well when Kurama compared Minato to him
That's one interpretation at least.
Its crazy how they say kushina teached minato sealing justsu... she was a child when going tyo the village at max she learned most of them from mit... the wife of hashirama, said to master all jutsu he attempted.... he was way stronger than madara.
How far would Minato and Hashirama go in the Boruto era?
They're fodder
Washed by any of the Otsutsuki that come/Inner Kara
Oh I think they’re still relevant even in the new era for sure. I think folks sleep on a lot of characters from Shippuden just because conventional wisdom says power creep should’ve left them behind, but that’s not always so. Hashirama should be behind Naruto at this point but not that far behind. Boruto is out here now using Minato’s signature technique which tells you right there Minato could still get some work done. There are lots of characters people don’t realize would probably still be able to kick plenty of ass. One of my go to examples is Nagato/Pain. Bro wasn’t beaten, he was talked down. He still had it in him to stay relevant to the power scales well into the War Arc and probably in a more minor way into the Boruto era.
Shin at best for villains chronologically. It's difficult to say for the others, but Minato may be able to scrape out a win against Ao.
Ao is as far as either of them get though
@@numberhunter62Minato washes Ao.
To be fair Pain was basically exhausted from using the village destroying almighty push. It literally took a toll on his lifespan, and he had to fight Naruto who was freshly ready for battle, had nagato been at full strength from the start he would have easily beat naruto, especially if hinata did not intervene.
U forget naruto the main character
Naruto was not fully ready for battle he had been training in nature chakra or sage mode which kills 9/10 users in training and was training 24/7 sage during the day and rasenshuriken at night they both were worn out but their also both uzamaki's so they still at 50% have 5 times the chakra as any jonin
@@Reaverstudios420that doesn't really factor into this battle. Tendo could have pulled naruto as he later did, make him unable to move by stabbing him as he did later and have the female pain transport them to akatsuki's base. Tendo not being at full power gave naruto a shot at fighting, making sage mode insanely overrated.
@@mariowarion yea i agree, he did ultimately end up piecing naruto though. you could argue he won against the 6 tails too because kurama had to draw out more power in order to avoid being crushed by planetary devastation.
But you can argue Naruto not being at full strength and training using a technique that kills and exhausts most users, and a justu that uses more chakra than characters like ten ten even have, could possibly be the reason that pain was able to beat him until he got assistance from the 9 tails, you forget Hinata didn’t help she just got her hind end handed to her, ripped away and given back again. Which caused Naruto to go into a 9 tailed rage, also talkin bout help when pains while MO is literally jumping with 6 people
Both of them are true warriors. Wnere minato has a bijuu and is fast flying raijin, hashirama has wood style and his own sage art.
Hashirama at full strength went up against madara back in the Days. But in Shippuden a whole shinobi army was needed. I hoped we got a extended fight hashirama versus madara like in the OVA.
Hashirama kept all 9 bijuus as pets
Just wanna point out that Minato didn't just teleport the entire 9 tails after whipping Obito, he actually teleported Kurama along with a second bijuu dama which detonated at the new battlefield.
Minato was truly a menace and he never even reached his peak. Imagine if he lived 10 years longer.
@@gammafrostI imagine 10 years older Hashirama would be much much more stronger...
The sound effect for slides is so loud it's literally making me flinch. Also you talk in a way that's like an endless run on sentence. Other than that excellent video. Great points. Lots of references / sources cited. Great images and clips. Thank you.
This video is amazing, whoever did the images and short cut videos did their thing
my headcanon theory of hashirama's instant use sage mode is from his freakish chakra reserve and the nature of his chakra. his chakra forms life with wood release. sage mode is the world's natural energy. the fact 1st can use all 5 natures and blossom life. i think he can just focus all of his chakra together and infuse it throughout his entire body. his pupils don't change just his facial features. he just pulls and condenses all of his natural chakra together to be one with his chakra. this would explain why he doesn't need to pull from nature because 1st is a force of nature himself in his own chakra pool.
Shinju sage mode
Sad to see my goat lose but accurate. Definitely need more power scaling videos from you. This video was great
12:27 - 12:33 nah this funny as hell😭
kcm1 minato has a chance if it's alive hashirama, because of the stamina and neeeding to wear him down long enough to use reaper death god, assuming he'd even be able to use it as an edo tensei.
@@NarutoExplained I bliv Hashirama wins but there is a scene where hashirama fights kyubi alone in the anime be4 The narutoKcm2 mode and he is also bleeding.I dont like scaling videos because it does not depict certain aspects e.g if Minato is running around Hashirama will never catch him and he wouldnt xpect anyone to be faster than his Brother,hashirama is the antithesis of Tail beasts and shinobi with massive like structures(susanos thats why he is that strong. Abilities matter !!! we can infer Minatos intelligence by why he had the highest intelligence scores in the academy and tobirama may be smarter than him, hiruzen is probably more knowledgeable than both and says itachi thought like a Hokage at 7 .And hiruzen witness the first 2 and thought Minato was that Good to say its not high difficult its ridiculous conssidering that hashirama never ever fough someone as smart as Minato and he is not good at genjutsu all those big Massive Golums and deighty gates are completely useless in my opinion for someone who can continously disappear. Kyubi goes massively stronger over time as we can see in the anime how small he was and how small he was infront of hashiramas buddha statues and KCM2 and baryon mode .this implies that Minato fought a much more stronger version of kyubi and obito who ambushed himand could also move between spaces and Kurama is being forced to fight by madara thats why he easily gets separated and does not fight back speaks to his psychology at that moment.I dont think that Hashirama can beat madara and kyubi at once and u can see this in the world Arc with one more difference madara has rinnegans and has lived longer and the battle comes to BASIcall a draw if kurama were to be added on his own free willl hashirama will bite the dust .Kurama compares 16 year old Minato to hashirama,Minato better IQ,better at sealling and faster. If hiruzen surpassed tobirama he should be in btn him and the first and based on what we have seen minato should be around or at that same level. Minato in the anime when he thinks obito is madara he is ready to fight him so i dont think he is not on that level.My only reason for thinking hashirama is stronger than Minato is stronger than minato will be Minato lacking the ability to Land a decisive blow. hashirama does not show any speed feats and got blitzed by Jubito while Minato escaped sometimes and talking abouts sage mode madara vs tobirama ,Minato is faster than thatb and only six paths have that same reaction. If Minato marks hashiram it is said he was in a class of his own,heal any wound and he could do any jutsu he attempted that is just a lie if his head got cut off he wouldnt heal from that so one mistake and he is dead. a sage mode minato with flying raijain level 3will be able to blitz Hashirama sage mode if he were marked .The whole other big structures and buddhas are useless since u cannot hit something that u cant hold and Minato basically should have more info on hashirama. obito + stronger version of Kyubi is as good a feat as ems madara + a weaker Kurama who was genjutsued to fight.
@@christopherdarlington2846Minato isn't faster than Tobirama. In every instance Tobirama reacts to Juubito and has to help Naruto and Minato touch Juubito. With flying raijin he still has better feats, despite this Hashirama is too strong for Tobirama
@@kakuzugoated873 U need to rewatch the series bro tobirama says it himself ,if u are talking about reaction time the only reason why minato does not react because he was mentally nerfed upon seeing his student causing the war one that aspired to become the hokage,one that killed his wife and this was confirmed in the books
@@ITACHITHEGOAT-gg4ky No he doesn't lol, he says his body flicker is faster. Plot twist, body flicker is travel speed not combat speed. In every instance of actually using flying raijin and tagging someone in a combat scenario, Tobirama outperforms him.
Also why does everyone say that same thing? Do you think him being sad is nerfing him to the point where in KCM he is weaker than his base form???
If you take them in their strongest forms so give Minato access to Toad Sage Mode and KCM, I think Minato wins simply off a speed blitz in my opinion. Hashirama is a durability monster but no amount of healing factor prevents you from being decapitated. A human body is still a body, a neck is still just as easy to slice as ever.
Hashirama is a monster in that all of his stats are basically topped out, but he is not the fastest Shinobi or the hardest hitter, he's just a crazy beefy all-rounder, but he has certain flaws, like not having the speed to keep up with Minato, or not having a dojutsu to resist a Tsukuyomi from Itachi, and so on. There are Shinobi who have viable win-conditions vs. Hashirama.
And not the smartest, tobirama even says it in the war. Minato is way too smart, he was thinking 10 steps a head.
@@coaxi4162tobirama never said this stop caping tobirama was the one ahead of all the hokage
@@sasukethelast9515 literally watch the war arc again, he calls naurto a bigger idiot than his older brother...
@@coaxi4162 he didn’t mean it literally you clown hashirama is insanely smart when it comes to fighting💀 far smarter then minato plus minato was no where near 10 steps ahead
@sasukethelast9515 he did mean it, I don't know why you are getting upset over an anime bro
You forgot to mention the fact that sage mode amps the sensory abilities and perception of hashirama which permits him to sense attacks without the need to see them. Madara while having hashirama's sage mode dodged a téléportation attack from tobirama. So hashirama should be able to react to minato's flying raijin on top of fact that he knows and used to how it operates
He also had a sharingan
@@EbenezerSkroodge At that time he just had one rinnegan. And the rinnegan doesn't grant sensory or perception abilities
No, that was never stated as a general ability for all sage mode. This is an ability, as far as we know, exclusive to toad sage users. Like he said in the video, we don’t know anything about hashiramas sage mode or the amps that it gives him. We don’t even know the degree of strength hashirama comes to when he uses it.
@@JD-mf6ooLiterally Blind Madara was fighting with EMS sharingan Sasuke. And Madara avoided all his katana attacks. Also Madara avoided Tobirama attacks from his back. That proves that all sage modes can save from deadly attacks. That was the only chance of Minato defeating Hashirama. And he can't use his only chance against Hashirama.
Hashirama low diff him.
@@Sueiei29737 Madara dodging katana attacks doesn’t prove that its because of sage mode. You have to realize that Madara is going against a much weaker opponent as ems sasuke is nothing compared to ems Madara. Also Madara wasn’t blind fighting sasuke, he has one rinnegan.
As for tobirama it can easily be said that Madara is used to flying raijin attacks, as that’s not tobiramas first time using it in a fight. Also tobiramas flying raijin is slower than minatos while the madara who dodged it was amped by the rinnegan as well as hashirama cells.
Theres absolutely nothing that concretely reveals the attributes of Senju sage mode. There’s more evidence leaning to other reasons rather than senju sage mode. No, all sage mode is absolutely 100% not the same. Simply go compare toad sage Naruto to snake sage kabuto. They have completely different abilities.
Minatos only chance of beating hashirama doesn’t exist unless you mean base hashirama vs edo kcm2 minato. Senju sage mode hashirama scales far higher than all forms of minato. Even though it makes hashirama stronger, we don’t exactly know how.
No cap, just realized when you said it. This dude truly never runs out of sage mode at all 😂
Went off with this one
Great video, very insightful
You are at your finest ❤Hashirama rules most powerful kage. Merry Christmas Naruto Explained!!
I don't think they were close to full power as edo tensei. When Madara came to life he bodied everyone in base. I think that a fight between Minato and Hashi would like a boruto fight. Wide scale attacks wouldn't work on either person. It would be all close quarters
Minato is a genius and probably has better technique and iq but he also died young at 24 so he never got to his potential. Hashirama is a cheat code, his charkra levels are similar to Naruto’s, he’s completely mastered sage mode, he has far better healing than Tsunade with not even have to weave any hand signs plus he’s got his overpowered wood release that can summon whole forests and poison with also being able to summon his overpowered massive wood golems. I can’t see anyway of Minato winning this fight besides using a sealing technique but that even probably wouldn’t work
If Minato mastered sage mode he would stand a better chance
Hey, Naruto Explained. Can you do Hidan vs Zabuza?
It’s not even close bro… I don’t think he’ll waste time with this one, as interesting of a video it would be. Hidan wipes zabuza and zabuza is my fav villain
I think if Minato was born earlier and was taught under Hashirama and trained and fought against stronger opponents a lived until he was over 30 he could of mastered sage mode very early and more jutsu’s where he could of surpassed Hashirama. He just didn’t have any opponents to make him push himself to get stronger since he was the strongest in his time period
yep, and Hashirama had Madara, Minato wasn't a reincarnation of Ashura or Indra which automatically gives them not only power but a VERY strong rival, noone in Minato's time really gave him much of a challange compared to that.
Minato not being a reincarnation of Ashura or Indra makes him automatically weaker. He was not destined to hold that much strength.
@@AstroSully maybe, maybe not but IMO Itatchi and Minato are outliers
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keep living brother
@@NarutoExplained Thank you!
I really liked this video & would love to listen to more versus videos in the Naruto/Boruto series lol. I love the way you go over the facts, with each ninja's jutsu's, abilities, strengths, & weaknesses... I would love to see who would win between Sasuke Sarutobi & the old leader of the Uzumaki clan I forgot his name, since they were both stated to be stronger than Hashirama & Madara at the time. I would love to know how Hashirama learned Sage Mode, he needs more screen time..
Like the longer videos 🔥
This was so so so good. I loved this mini show ❤
Awesome as always thanks
2:46 "minato made a even faster version of flying raijin stage 2" 🤔 FTG is instantanious, stage 2 is not faster than normal, it's just Minato teleporting to a moving object just like Tobirama did against Izuna. 🤷🏻
He does not pay attention to lore. He read things from wiki and use his headcanons.
No there is definitely varying speeds to flying rijan
Minato blitzs his own flying rijan when he teleported the 10 tails bijuu bomb. He teleports with the bomb and teleports back before the the bomb ever got sent to the island
@@cryptedz7664 "varying speeds to ftg" chapter?
Ftg isn't instaneous teleportation, there is a reason.tobirama said that his ftg was slower than minto's ftg
Great video!
Can you please do a video series on which characters from which villages had the most potential in each "era" from 1st to 4th ninja wars.
Realistically, Minato should be able to one shot blitz because he literally teleports especially if there’s no prep involved.
Hashirama also has no knowledge of Minato while Minato has some knowledge of hashi assuming it’s in characters. People always make the excuse that Hashirama is super hard to kill but he was literally going to kill himself with a Kunai.
And for all the hype we had, we’ve seen he’s not a comparable healer to Tsunade. Yeah he instaheals cuts and scratches, but Tsunade survives bisection, heart stabs, internal organs being destroyed, shinra Tensei, basically anything short of decapitation.
Minato should win because speed is usually the deciding factor in Naruto battles
Kill himself with a kunai? That version of him has no feat or statements.
Not comparable to Tsunadi? Madara literally said she's inferior 😂
Minato was born after Hashirama and yet despite all his speed and jutsus...he never stole the title of "god of shinobi," despite being famous
@@Rck-vert So now we’re picking and choosing
So you say no feats in the first sentence, then use no feats to say Hashirama is a better healer despite us seeing him heal nothing of tsunades caliber. Then ignore Madara being surprised by tsunades healing, also ignoring that Madara never knew of tsunades status as world wide best medical user.
Ok and Hiruzen got that title instead LOL and we see him do what exactly, yeah basically nothing
I believe that you are right especially about how unlikely it would be for the two of them to fight in the first place it would ve interest to see how much more minato could grown had he has been able to learn directly from hashimara.
Also we don't actually get to see Minato grow as much as hashirama pretty much because he died way younger then hashirama did. I think it would be a better match up if Minato had more growth.
@@PurpleBudz92Minato was 24. Hashirama at 24 was tussling with MS Madara.
I hope someone asks & Kishimoto answers if a Reanimated shinobi can use the Reaper Death Seal w/o any drawbacks.
I love this approach! Finally a video on the subject which actually treats a fight like a fight, and not like a spreadsheet. Let me explain, but i am bad at being concise:
100% of the existing videos look in the data books and then to manga evidence and say oh of this dude beats this dude but the first dude beat the third dude, then the second dude who beat the first dude must clearly beat the third dude... no? Its like saying Rock paper scissors that scissors beat rock because they beat paper which beats rock, but this is false because you are looking at circular balanced matchups. Now let me explain what i mean by a fight like a fight.
In a fight you might be the best swords man in the world but if you bring your sword skills into a dogfight with fighter planes they mean nothing! If you try to engage in melee combat vs the worlds greatest swordsman in your F35 or SU-52 in the ardenne forrest or inside osaka castle, you wont even get the jet inside the mission perimiter. bUt pEd3AR yOU ArE nOT gONA mElEE wITh aN f35! Correct that is the point! You wouldn't fight on the enemies premise if you can avoid it! This is why Hokage pick their teams for each mission with consideration and deliberation! This is why Hokage is a lot of governing and paperwork alone in due to the number of C-Rank missions with simple yet important tasks. In Fact its one of the main Reasons why in my Opinion the UCHIHA SHOULD have had a constant pressence within the Hokage Office as Head of Police, the Hokage leadership model is actually quite dumb. Having a so called "minimal-state" is an extreme liability both for justice and for the people in charge. In Naruto and Boruto it looks like the Assistant is a wonder fix, but then you are ignoring the facts, one of the reasons why things are better under Naruto post 4th war, is because the villages share the burden of governance, and help each other out through diplomacy. The Funato war in the mists, is mitigated because the Leaf just happens to be able to help on their own accord, while the leafs research mission is assisted by the mist as well. they are essentially 5 Ministers to deal with problems and can load distribute the governance by manpower-resources in the executing power branch. Before this time the individual villages were prone to coup detat and when international subjects came up they were solved with wars usually they came together, it is as they say: 1 misfortune usually doesn't come alone.
Okay but what does this have to do with the fighting matchups? So glad you asked! First of all being able to assign the best ninja for the job, not a new concept it predates villages, but was systematized and increased survival rates when it did get implented and since improved with the emergence of the shinobi village system. The very point is that this has existed for so many generations because its pretty smart! Minato loses to Hashirama because he is weak vs. Hashirama not because Hashirama is broken AF. Powerscaling isn't that simple. In fact if that was the case Naruto and Sasuke would have STOMPED Jigen even with his little juubi temporary power buff. Jigen might have just about matched Naruto but his body took an insane toll hence why he had to undergo this special sleep Amado helped him with. That and the fact that this concept is ancient and still borderline top-shelf inspiration from Dragonball which Kishimoto and his team are greatly respectful of and Akira Toriyama's style in general. Anyway i nearly digressed here, the point is that Jigen was the worst possible Match up for Naruto and Sasuke, but they had no other people in their arsenal to help with this. Naruto's and Sasukes biggest character flaw post chapter 699 is that they believe they have to do everything by themselves, because they told themselves that is how it was going to be when they made it. In fact Ashura must be in agonizing pain within Naruto, Naruto prior to being hokage never considered himself as pivotal for sucess, this was Indras philosophy; success weakened Narutos greatest strength i.e. his abilty to mobilize support from other people.
Again nearly side-tracked but i have a point with this, Naruto and Sasuke decided to take on Jigen just the two of them, but Jigen had abilities tha basically nullified their combined strength even with their teamwork. The very reason why Shikamaru was promoted to chunin during the first exam arch was because he beyond any of the others not only understood this, he was able to demonstrate it. Despite him not winning his fight and he gave up, he demonstrated Tobiramas original intention of the rank, know when not to fight and save yourself rather than losing your own and your teams lives as well as the mission objective, lose the objective save your lives is the optimal outcome, a philosophy he even died for. Just as Rock Lee would be decimated in a Genjutsu or Ninjutsu only fight, Madara nearly died vs Might Guy 8Gates Midnight Elephant. Just like Boruto with no flying ability would be absolutely f'd vs the Juubikasuki even if he matched that scenario in power, and if you don't know because you are an Anime Only Fan, don't look it up, and you will likely forget the mention of it before anything is spoiled anyway, so all good.
Point is yeah power scaling is a start but it doesn't mean anything, you need to look at not just your afinity for a branch of shinobi styles, but the individual abilities you can use as a tool. Sasuke kind of preaches this. A ninja makes do with the tools he has. His point is that you shouldn't rely on the same party trick, you don't know which situation you will end up in, your true skill is identifying your win condition; do it fast, make a decision if its feasible, and if it is make a plan and then try executing it with skill, speed, element of surprise, and resource management in the window of opportunity while keeping an escape plan. All that while constantly being aware of resources on both sides of the fight, and not being caught off guard by enemy deception. This is what control means. Boruto being such a resource for Sasuke vs Momoshiki is what caused momoshiki, an otherwise overpowering adversary, to be defeated. Ocular powers mean nothing if they can't see the threat. Your eyes mean nothing if there's no light.
Finally we have a video who opens with: Minato's skillset is like a bishop in front of a king, the bishop cant take the king, but the king can take the bishop, circumstances matter! It doesnt matter that the King can only move 1 tile, if the bishop is in range and has no legal moves. It doesn't matter if you have Water release if your adversary can perform lightning release, the strongest water dragon is worthless the moment it becomes a lightning rod. Flying Raijin L2 is worthless if you can't place a mark, or throw it anywhere. KCM is useless if your sealing wood techniques can suppress it. Byakugan is uselss if you get bloking smoke, or suffer sensory overload. As Itatchi puts it, ALL techniques have at least 1 weakness. Just pray you don't end up in a situation where you have nothing in your arsenal to utilize it. Or simply so few that you need a miracle.
And that is why Hashirama wins. Also a Kage should hire ministers/secretaries.
A wood dragon that absorbs chakra is useless if it can't get hold of its enemy... Please explain how Hashirama will be able to tag Minato... Next to impossible. Even if he does Minato can just teleport away again. Even Ay who is most certainly faster than Hashirama couldn't tag him...
Okay hear me out. Tobirama created that justu at 16 years old. And Hashirama helped not only that he's able to counter it like Madara he's got to tag him. And then hit him. And a Rasangan isn't one tapping Hashirama. And I don't see how Minato is gonna deal with deep forest bloom or emergence, or wood Golum. Or any other crazy crap Hashirama can do. Like heal arms instantly close all his wounds instantly. Without trying. He's on a different plain of power.
Where would you rank each of these two hokage amongst the other hokage?
1.naruto
2.Hashirama
3.Prime Hiruzen
4.Tobirama
5.Kakashi
6.Minato
7.Tsunade
1 Naruto
2 Hashirama
3 Minato
4 Tobirama
5 Kakashi
6 Hiruzen
7 Tsunade
Second and fourth hokage each
1. Naruto
2. Kakashi
3. Hashirama
4-5. Tobirama/Minato
6. Old Hiruzen
7. Tsunade
@@numberhunter62hokage kakashi in 3rd you’re funny
On top of that, Hashirama's base speed is no pushover. Minato's base speed was compared to KCM1 Naruto. Edo Rinnegan Madara reacted and blizt KCM2 Naruto who should scale higher than base Minato in speed. Yet rinnegan Madara is slower than alive blind Madara. The same alive Madara that alive Hashirama had no problem with keeping up with in taijutsu. So if KCM1 Naruto=Minato's base speed
First one here love your videos and thank you soo much
Yay! Thank you! Hope you enjoy this one! Editor took a while to get it done because of how long and detailed it was
Who wins between Hashirama and Minato?
Hashirama !
Minato but it depends on the circumstances really
minato
Hashirama, high diff.
Minato
That was just fantastic.
Every Jutsu He attempted, He was in a class of His own
Are you sure about that. His sage mode no. His shadow clones no. His sealing jutsu maybe. His ftg maybe. His kunai spam jutsu yeah. His bf maybr
Because tbt no one could beat minato his abilities far outclasses the golden age ! Also I don’t know if people realize that a base rasengan for the most part has beaten every enemy ! Momoshiki whiped itachi 30% clone whiped ! Pain whiped ! Third raikage whiped ! The rasengan is actually underated ! A rasengan can do the same as a tailed beast bomb it’s the same thing hashirama redirects those attacks for a reason he would be decapitated
@@EbenezerSkroodge i hope you’re not saying a rasengan from minato would kill momoshiki or even the 3rd raikage
@@Slickydicky69420 He's talking about hashirama
Madara said that about hashirama to the 5 kages
"Every jutsu he attempted, he was in a class his own, everyone considered him the ultimate shinobi"
@@Ryuenn24 yeah ik that. I was sleep deprived when i made that comment.
This is gonna be a good one.
tried to be SUPER in depth on this one.
I agree with you it’s not as close as people would want and it’s heavily in Hashirama’s favor. I tend to interpret the times people say “Minato was the greatest” or “Hiruzen was the greatest” with that same qualifier you basically applied, “in their day/of their generations.” But Hashirama and Madara remain at the pinnacle of ninjatude until Naruto and Sasuke. Would still probably be a hell of a fight though.
This is mostly a hard fight of 2 vastly different styles of combat with minato being all about speed and single target attacks which usally gives him a massive advantage in 1v1 but hashirama is just so powerful with his ninjutsu and regen i dont see minato having a way to put hashirama down permanently barring a jutsu that seals him away. That said hashirama also would have huge trouble tagging minato given his speed and teleportation so killing minato would be nigh impossible outside a scenario that prevents him from just leaving the battlefield to recover. In such a scenario though hashiramas insane aoe and stamina would give him the overall edge.
I think it would be interesting to see Hashirama using his wood style to pull in all of the life force energy around him, including Minato’s, thus making Minato tired.
It would be a war of attrition. And I would be giving it to hashirama, dude was literally fought madara for days on end and came out with the dub.
The Flying Thunder God Second Step/Level technique isn't faster than the normal FTG Technique; it's just a two-stage technique (that Obito was unable to react to in time).
No matter what happens, at least we know that Minato will always be the coolest Hokage, for me the coolest character in the whole anime. If Minato hadn't died so soon, he would have surpassed Hashirama for sure.
But I don't understand one thing and I'm a little angry about how they made Hashirama's mokuton OP. They want too much from the wood, when the mokuton can deter and stop the "bijuu dama". Even wood should have weaknesses like flammability not to mention something that creates something like an atomic explosion. They also never explained to us how Hashirama came to such a unique sage mode. The fact that Minato does not control sage mode fully is only the reason that Kishimoto realized at a certain time that he wanted Hashirama to be stronger than Minato, so he had to make him weaker in some way. I see no reason why a genius like Minato should have a problem mastering a full-fledged sage mod.
Minato would not surpass hashirama, he is the reincarnation of Ashura. Be quiet.
@@tmavibes Kishimoto could have easily decided to make Minato and Fugaku the reincarnations of Ashura and Indria as well. Then it would suit you, wouldn't it? Be quiet.
@@apomalachel8787 coulda shoulda woulda, won’t make it true. He’s the writer. It wasn’t done. The same way GOD writes our stories, you can say “could” all you want. Won’t make it true. That wasn’t part of the story, Naruto ended in 2017 ITS DONE. Now you on to trash Boruto series
@@tmavibes After all, I also wrote that if Minato had not died earlier, he would have surpassed Hashirama. From the beginning I take it as a what if situation. Read carefully next time. Either way, the fact that someone is the reincarnation of the two does not necessarily mean that they are the strongest in the world. What if Minato had the potential to surpass Ashura without being his reincarnation. Ashura was also just a person who existed in the world.
@@apomalachel8787 after all I wrote I said SHOULDA COULDA WOULDA won’t make it true. You keep saying IF IF IF. THERE IS NO IF’S these anime characters aren’t real, I know you worship Minato your idol but he doesn’t exist. READ CAREFULLY NEXT TIME GOOFY. If they are the reincarnation of someone in that story line it does mean they are the STRONGEST. The closet to Otsusuki power. The ORIGINALS. Hashirama is 1000000 times stronger. NARUTO IS 10000 times stronger. Goodnight. The show ended. Minato is dead. He is no where near Madara Naruto, jinchuriki obito level. AT ALL
Thanks man.
Theory, what if his sage mode is intrinsic to his wood style.Wood style is the only ninjutsu that is "alive" what if the trees he grows gather sage energy for him and he then absorbs it.
Actually he just absorbs through himself as his whole thing is based around nature he absorbs it just like trees
They need to make this a movie
I feel like minato wins at any point if he can sneak a seal on hashirama (which from what ive seen manga & anime that's exactly how he fights 🤔) now when kcm1 & sage mode comes in like a prolonged battle he wins in certain ways (i.e. what he was finna do to killer bee) but i will say throughout all fights between him & hashirama its basically a fly & fly swatter once he get lucky its over
1000🫸's =GG if one lands
Pollen Field=GG
KCM RasenTailed Beast Bomb + 2nd Stage Flying Ryjinn = GG
Speed + hand placed sneaky seals= Win in all ways
Hashirama didnt know minato upgraded the flying Ryjinn twice times technically he only learns about the upgrades during the 4th war and if they had a normal meeting on the battlefield, barley knowing anything about eachother, like he did with obito he wins but if they know what eachother is capable of its a hard win for minato except my specific conditions above
Sage Hashirama allows him to dodge most of minato’s attacks and with his woodstyle jutsu KCM is literally almost out of the picture since his woodstyle allows him to suppress the nine tails cloak. Not to mention Minato’s sage mode is not that good, after one teleportation and one rasengan from sage minato, dude lost sage mode as fast as he got it.
Name one fight minato won with his overwhelming body flicker?
But yet in the war arc he out sped the other hokages 🤔. Does that make sense. His body flicker never gave him victory against any of his known opponents ( not obito, not raikage, not bee, not madara, & not the 50 ninjas).
@@Tfyousaytome Try telling that to many of his Bias Fans.
The speed and iq is everything my bro
A dope comment I saw on Quora a while back stated this :
*His chakra levels will never reach hashirama's level, but his skills will make him an unmatched threat to anyone*
*Minato Namikaze was not the god of shinobi, he was their death reaper*
Both of these Hokage are dope and unmatched in their retrospective attributes. Storywise we know generally The Ashura/Indra incarnates will be the strongest seemingly. So you really gotta give it up to ninja who names reach that level of renown like Minato did💯
Well not really look at might kakashi Sakura and orochimaru all of these people were stronger than hashirama at their peak
@@EbenezerSkroodgenone of them are stronger than hashirama. Sakura was/relative to Tsunade somewhat. And Madara clowned on Tsunade. Even with kakashi hax his stamina hasn't been shown to be able to substain against someone like hashirama. We already know kakashi can't kamui large things.. Orochimaru is slept on but still can't even compare to Uchiha like the story showed. We're talking about him vs a man who grew up killing uchiha😂
Hashirama is a KCM Minato victim respectfully
“2 of the strongest character in the series” bro is forgetting about Madara(Juubidara) and Kaguya. Love Minato to death but he’s losing to even WM Obito who was stated to be Madaras equal.
I didn't say they were THE TWO STRONGEST characters in the series...I say TWO OF THE STRONGEST....which is factually correct...In Naruto's manga, both of these characters if you take all characters at their strongest form, are in the top 13...which makes them two of the strongest....
@@NarutoExplained aghhhhh ok ok I see. I misread. My fault there. Makes much more sense and yes Hashirama and Minato are without a doubt 2 of the strongest in Naruto
Dead bodies were used to create the pains. Meeting it half way, the death god reaper seal can be used can be used by the reanimated. Would it work with clones?
Minato and Kushina were likely closer to twenty in Minato Gaiden, not twenty.
Minato is not using Kyūbi Mode, he is using the full Kurama Mode. which is much stronger than Kyūbi Mode.
Hashirama's Wood Release automatically gave him both Water and Earth Release, so he did have a slight advantage in learning all five.
This is like flash with paper punch vs Green lantern with nuke like Woods
The dome for Hashirama as a point is not necessarily that powerful. It would be similar to Unchange versus Undead Unluck. Andy needed Fuko to deliver the power that killed Gena, but Minato would have the ability to deliver the attack on his own. This is not to say that other jutsu might be able to finish Minato, but the dome is too big to be an effective shield against Minato. The point is that I think you overvalued that dome in your argument. I do not believe that it could stop the rasengan at all as a mark inside the dome would allow the attack. It doesn't matter how much energy it can stop if it cannot be deployed between the user and the energy.
A major problem is everyone thinks that Madara and minato are faster than kcm naruto, but most hokage are relative in speed and can hurt each other. Madara dimply has a counter to Minatos sneaking and teleporting and has wood style the other hokage can't handle
I truly wanted a Hashirama manga, i need more Hashirama content.
Still watching the video. But to add he was fast enough to teleport in front of guy in 8 gates mode. And I didn't hear him mention that in the Obito fight he also put a teleportation seal on Obito, that was a finisher right there.
And he made himself a jinchuriki bruh 🤦🏾♂️
And mastered biju mode instantly lol with no practice time.
Then the 1st can heal Instantly from pretty much anything. Which makes him alot more dorable through out the fight
Raikage is faster than Minato he doesnt react as fast as minato but the raikage faster. I can use this argument raikage almost blutz teleportation and ftg
The Raikage is not faster than Minato. There's a very good reason the databooks call Minato the greatest in godlike speed. And there's a very good reason full powered KCM1 Naruto gets compared to Minato after he blitzed past the Raikage with body flicker
I think that this particular matchup is less about who hits harder but about who can use his power to the fullest during the entire fight.
We already know that Hashirama has more raw power than Minato. In fact, Minato himself would know too. Because of that I don’t think Minato would go for “I need to hit him hard”. Rather, his best option lies in how he typically fights. Which would be a combination of sealing, teleportation and instant kill moves.
Minato’s first priority would be to limit Hashirama’s power output or jutsu using some haxed Uzumaki seals.
For large scale attacks aimed directly at him he will most likely counter with the guiding thunder move (ripping open space-time and just teleporting an attack elsewhere or just back at Hashirama).
As for his main means of offense, rather than a Rasengan clashing with some wood construct, Minato would exploit the FTG for a perfectly timed surprise attack to one-hit kill (like kunai straight through the head or lopping the head off).
There’s just no way this would a “who has the bigger gun” type of fight.
That said, while Hashirama absolutely has the edge in power, there are definitely arguments for how Minato could realistically win.
100%
I think it depends on whoever writes it.
@@TavaresSZN Hashirama should be able to sense it before it happens and regenerate, unless his head gets sliced off. Then again, he might sense it and not he fast enough.
@@CristanioPeweyyy - if he gets slapped with the right seal in an instant 🤷♂️
@@moobutt True, that move makes you able to one shot god tier characters lol.
Monato cannot touch Hashirama.
I have to Disagree here.
Hashirama is mostly certainly a type counter for minato. However minato’s raw speed is most likely getting him the Dub. Minato In Base was faster than Sage mode hashirama and he even kept up with 1 eyes Jubidara. If you add sage mode as well as KCM2 Minato would most likely be too fast for hashirama to track. Let alone hit. And this is all while avoiding the instant teleportation. Of FTG.
Personally I would have to say the battle goes something like this:
Minato and Hashi Square up. Minato Instantly Rushs hashirama, hashi follows by backing up while weaving hand signs for his 1000 hand wood statue. As he summons it minato starts to play koi running around throwing kunai left and right until he gets one onto the statue head. He then teleports to that kunai and rushes hashirama. They get into a taijutsu battle in which hashi would have the edge however minatos extreme speed evens the playing field. As hashirama starts to summon pollen minato moves fast purposely taking a stab word from hashirama in order to place a seal onto him. Minato then teleports away only to teleport back and plant a rasengan onto hashirama’s Face killing him. (As strong as his healing factor is, even those who surpassed it (jubidara) still almost died when their head was attacked).
I think Minato has enough hacks that he could unsurprisingly beat Hashirama, but he would still be an underdog.
Two points that I think you take a little out of context is (1) Naruto beat the third raikage with hundreds of clones on the battlefield, so he was only using his partial power. Say this bc you mentioned how Hashirama only used a 10th of his power at one point in video. (2) it’s true the 9 tails plus Obito is weaker than plus madara, but Hashirama didn’t need to worry about the village, a dying wife, and a newborn child. Plus Hashirama’s jutsu is a walking counter to a tailed beast. Whereas minatos jutsu is a walking counter to shinobi.
Minato yelling at Kurama saying be will stay up in his wifes insides is crazy
What if Minato can't over power hashirama but with speed (especially with kcm) and sealing (like a chakra suppression seal to cut off his power and regeneration, ftg marker) could lock him up or do him in
Hashirama may be stronger, but how does he hit Minato? Wouldn’t the battle just end in a draw if Minato can’t kill Hashirama and Hashirama can’t touch Minato?
Hashirama has big aoe attacks that Minato wouldn't be fast enough to get out of the way of, and if he teleports to another are with FTG then he just BFR's himself.
@@numberhunter62nothing in the story states that Minato couldn’t avoid them. You just made that up for an argument. Minato could easily teleport away and then teleport back to the fight. No one would win. It’s an immovable force vs unstoppable object type of battle
@@khalilwilson2586hashirama taggin him trust me on that cause madara would react quick enough to hit minato as well
@@numberhunter62 did you know that uchiha cannot use the power of rinnegan, that is why they need to control the tailed beast for gain large chakra . And in anime no uchiha perform all the ability of rinnegan at once,
Only nagato perform all the ability of rinnegan at perfect time interval in the leaf invasion
@@BorutoOtsutsukisthat’s definitely not guaranteed, you also forgetting that madara was fighting a “dazed” minato because mental amps and nerfs exist
Minato is winning because of his fighting style. It can get anybody. Hashirama can't touch Minato. You can't hurt what you cannot touch
Interesting, so KCM1 Minato actually stands a chance against Hashirama and can win? I can accept that explanation
he wasnt overpowering kurama!!! kushina was literally using chakra chains on the kurama she was the one overpowering kurama lol. minato is not close to hashirama level
If minato could put a mark on Hashirama’s armor, he might have a better chance. Due to his fast release jutsu
Hashirama tanks that and heals so now what? 💀 💀 💀
I agree that Hashirama is stronger, has more jutsu, and has more options beating Minato, but you keep saying Minato has nothing to take Hashirama out. You say the wood barrier would stop the rasengan and I believe you, but how would Hashirama do against a Rasengan to the face? Yes, Hashirama could dodge but Minato needs one attack to develop a counter to that. I think Minato wouldn't give Hashirama a chance to use all his jutsu, the rasengan is the strongest thing he needs and one good plan. Hashirama is known to be a little dense, I think Minato's smarts and speed stops Hashirama's power and battle IQ.
Comparing og’s is not a matter of skill set its a matter of wisdom & knowledge.
No shit I was thinking about this fight yesterday it be insane The 1st vs The 4th 😮 Deja Vu
I like your page My Guy but gotta say this Review is Disrespectul to the yellow Flash 😂😅🤣
I still got Minato> he like the Gojo of Naruto
Imagine a tribrid Senju Uzumaki and Uchiha with as a Jinjuriki with 2 6 tomoe Sharingan Flying Raijin and Wood release
Theory on hashirama sage mode maybe he get is energy off is wood and absorb its nature energy maybe
Wait, so when you say minato would have been stronger than adult naruto do you mean in base or six paths sage mode adult naruto?
11:00 that's a big statement from Naruto honestly
Makes you realize how cracked he was in power. Minato wasn't even in his prime yet. Kinda makes sense, you can put alive Minato closer to white mask obito in power. Thats basically knocking on the door of ten tails level.
@@NarutoExplained No special family.clan or kekkeigenkai either makes it truly insane fr
Just here to remind that Kiba once believed he will become hokage
So did Sasuke 😂
He did even in the war where naruto and Sasuke got 6 paths power ups lol
I tried to find the quote that said minato would be stronger than hokage naruto and couldnt find it can someone link me?
I feel like if Minato can find a lethal point of strike he would probably win Hashirama, he was significantly faster than him like significantly faster. Speed beats raw power honestly like the only reason Hashirama would come out in top is just cause of his body regeneration really not the raw power.
You forget as long as Minato has a seal going round, he can shot any bijuu dama or power shot can be teleported directly besides Hashirama what shield he have would be useless
So many points brought up in this video can be disproven by simply reading the manga. "Its stated that RDS can be countered by someone stronger than you" meanwhile Minato used it on Kurama. Your point about Nagato "struggling" with taking Naruto's soul is also invalid. If you see the pains take souls you will notice that the statue has to have his mouth open before you take the body. This happens in literally every scene its used. Nagato had zero difficulty with naruto's soul and there was no indication of fear in his face while naruto was absolutely freaking out. It wasn't complete because ITACHI stepped in with the Blade of Totsuka. B and Naruto were definitely going to die had itachi not stepped in. Also Nagato was being controlled by kabuto who clearly didn't know how to use Nagatos ability nor was he as smart. Nagato always takes souls from the head first so if the soul manages to split like in orochimaru's case, the person will simply die. Instead kabutos Moronic ass chose to steal the soul body first. The point is that There are so many parts of the manga that tell us your arguments for many things are incorrect.
Using DIRECT quotes from Naruto characters provides the best results. hasn't
Again you said Minato is smarter and faster which source material agrees with but you said Hashirama is more powerful and would win due to overwhelming strength. But source material again disagrees with you as VERY powerful Naruto villians are constantly losing to people with high IQ and no power. ie Every Shikamaru fight especially against akatsuki, almost all fights where Sakura wins, Minatos fight against Obito was won so fast because Minato was able to figure out Obitos Hax in less than a minute. Or better yet Kaguya who is literally still alive because she was so overwhelmingly strong they had to seal her away.
Hashirama fought Madara and Kurama for 24 hours. Minato beat obito and full powered Kurama in less than a few hours while dealing with several other battlefield concerns like his son and kushina being in danger. Hashirama regularly left the village in danger because he never permanently solved problems. Minato permanently solved problems. Sealed Kurama in naruto and never became a threat to the village again and he beat obito so bad that he didn't go back until the war arc. Cherry picking data shows bias. If the manga says something then you should indeed believe it.
Hashirama has firepower to get the W. However I don’t think Minato will get scratched. Thats just my honest opinion.
I think the win-con for Minato is far much easier which is TOUCH Hashirama. If the Flying Raijin seal is on the God of Shinobi even he is rendered a walking corpse as long as Minato warps far away enough to evade Hashirama’s big attacks which should be a low difficulty task for Minato since he has dealt with the Ten-Tails/Jyuubi and literally left with only one missing arm.
He is extremely difficult to pin down, and its that reason I feel Hashirama actually struggles in this matchup. Flying Raijin is not a joke at all.
Hashirama’s jutsu, and wood release is really powerful but Minato literally countered Kamui, indisputably the most powerful ability in the Naruto verse, and it took him less than a second to adapt and he did it multiple times to prove his awareness is a living b*tch. Its up there with Sasuke Rinnegan abilities.
The matchup is actually hugely in Minato’s favor once he gets Kyuubi since he obtains the healing properties the likes of Naruto since if Minato dies, the Kyuubi does and that won’t do. So Hashiram’s win-con for having healing/longevity is moot and void.
I don’t think Minato stomps but him losing is pretty much impossible. He doesn’t need to go for the kill, if the Flying Raijin seal is set its GG’s well played. But nice vid I enjoyed the whole watch.
People really overplay flying raijin to the point where they think he can take on hashirama, hashirama probably already knows about the technique, we have seen the versatility of wood style minato wouldn’t be able to get a kunai near hashirama or anywhere he wants to because hashirama owns the terrain , he owns every fight he is in , this guy can cover the battlefield in poison , minato only fest his how fast he will be able to flee
And can you do Sasuke 1 Arm vs. 6th Madara PLS
already did. check the playlist at the end of the video
Minato's body flicker jutsu is so so so overwhelming & fast that he always have to rely on FTG to beat or stalemte his opponents. Minato's character is confusingly written. I like him alot, & kishimooto did a good job, but his character can be very confusing. He was literally going toe to toe with younger obito. And barely won. 👍
Barely won? The literal second minato figured out how kamui works he two-shotted obito and made him flee.
All this while his wife and village are being destroyed and dying.
He's lucky minato had to fall back to protect the village or minato would have followed him into kamui and finished him
@@myke3878 OMG minato literally said , "" the one who is a moment quicker will win"". Minato barely won against a very young obito.
This version of obito would get beaten by hashi or madara. And guess what, hashi & madara dont even have FTG 🤣😂. No offense. 👍
Minato is a good character, i love him. But kishimooto wrote him confusingly. Minato tried stabbing raikage shield with a bare kunai 😂.
Minato's body flicker jutsu is so so so fast and reliable that he always need to rely on FTG. Kishimooto clearly didnt think through these things, so its safe to not accept certain things.
@@kelvinallen9327wow he needs to rely on his main jutsu just like Naruto relied on kurama and sasuke relied on his eyes it’s something that they have why wouldn’t they rely on it
@@CWTempest My point is, people bring up the whole "" minato arrived at the battle field first"" argument. My point is, if his own natural speed is so so so so so so so superuorily overwhelming, then why he Needs To Rely on FTG so so so so much??
Or maybe its the fact that his natural speed is & was never a threat to people like Ay, Bee, younger Obito, etc. Minato fought the 50 ninjas he uses FTG. He fought Ay & Bee, he needs to use FTG.
He fought younger Obito, he needs to use FTG. And ""so called"" slower characters like Hashi, Madara, & Tobirama would handle minato's problems ""without"" FTG.
But maybe Kishimooto decided to change up his character. In his fight with younger obito, he himself admitted that ""the one that is one moment quicker, will win"". But his bias fans say, "" minato overwhelmed obito"" 🤣😂. It was a very very close fight.
But now i guess, maybe kishimooto changed his character to be much stronger or faster? 👍
@@kelvinallen9327 the fight wasn’t close minato read him like a book a stomped him
I think all of that training took a day or two, the arc leading towards the Ninja war? Unless there's 2 suns in that world?
why is naruto getting downplayed just to boost minato in this fight? in this fight you kinda forget that hashirama can get marked with the flying raijin and thats far more easier than you realise and taking his head off with that isnt far from the question since from a speed point minato is faster than hashirama but in sage mode maybe he can dodge and in this case minato can just use that move he did with tobirama but instead use a clone. in a battle of power minato loses against hashirama thats obvious
I like minato but the only way i see him winning is outsmarting him..but even then the healing nd wood release would be so match to deal with
Yeah but even though his sealing jutsu isn't "that good" according to himself, he's damn doof with it and could definitely do something like sealing him
Minato daaaaa real oG : ) paved da way for Naruto and baruto
If Minato Tagged 1st Hokage,while stationary blocking a teleported- biju strike.An Odama Rasengan , while enclosed in Hoshirama block dome .
Or the 1st Death Seal contract Block, in history .Or an Orichamaru partial seal _hand or feet can lead 2 defeat, 4 Hoshirama.
An evil Hoshirama would summon the Gedo Maza with his Biju counters & make Minato ,leave the destroyed battlefield injured ,... but 4 & 2 do what, when he returned. Minato has a song in real life of the Life & Death of the 3rd Hokage.
Hoshirama always admit to being out of practice when not in his time. Minato planned 4 time travel battles.
In terms of raw potential, Minato definitely was the only shinobi who could've surpassed hashirama without a kekke genkai or being a reincarnation of indra/ashura if he had lived long enough. Minato was the peak strength of his time and no one was able push him hard enough to the point to use sage mode when it was there the whole time but no one was strong enough to bring it out and make minato use it in battle conditions like in 4th great ninja war. While someone like Hashirama had always faught opponents stronger then him at a very young age and someone like Madara to push him in battle even when no one could to reach his full potential in battle. It's just that minato needed a good enough rivel or time to achieve his potential.
14 year old Obito pulled up to konoha….It’s messed up how that turned out 😒
Kid sent him to his early grave,I guess it’s just a thing for students to pack up their sensei when the heat turns up in Naruto lol
he would’ve never passed hashirama
Wdym nobody pushed him to use sage mode he sucks at it either way he wouldn’t ever use it he wouldn’t even have time to get it active
Hashirama Is MJ Minato Is Kobe
And Naruto is Lebron