Arcimoto FUV: A Comprehensive Review
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- When given the opportunity to test and review the Arcimoto FUV for a couple of weeks, I wasn't going to say "no." However, I had no idea how significantly it would affect my life and change how I view transportation. In addition to being the most fun vehicle I've ever driven, it may also be one of the most important as well.
0:00 - Intro
0:30 - FUV Basics
1:49 - What does it feel like to drive?
3:51 - Is it practical?
4:46 - The verdict
5:56 - Why is it important?
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If these EVs were half the price, they would blow up in the market.
Agreed! Hell, even if they were around $13k they’d sell like hot cakes.
Thinking the same thing myself ...18- $20k is pretty steep for a City trike, electric or not.
I liked your video. I live in Florida and have had my FUV for six months. Over all I love it, but like any relationship one can list problems. So, I will say some of the things that are or were problems, but please remember they are part of a loving relationship.
The first problem is storage, none, not even a clove compartment. The aft storage compartment is an expensive addon. The backend rack carrying capacity is rated at only 30 pounds. I am an experienced motorcyclist. The handling of the FUV is OK, but at moderate speed it can wobble if you do not pay attention. With two front wheels pulling the torque is impressive.
I was worried about dealer warranty service. My FUV is an early model and later models have added some upgrades. So, in Florida Arcimoto has a (as in one) mobile service van. The technician stopped by and upgraded my software and made some adjustments. I was impressed by how fast and professional this service was. Gee, you get to drive around Florida, in a van full of tools and fix Arcimotos. Now there is a job.
Thanks for the comment Chris! As a former Floridian, I’m appreciative of your opinion.
I wish I would have known about the weight capacity for the rear when I tested the cargo compartment. I definitely over filled it!
I think service and repair will get better the more the company grows. I certainly don’t expect them to be on par with other manufacturers in this way.
I’d love to hear about your ownership experience going forward! Feel free to email me about anything: hello@ev-resource.com
There is one more item I would like to add. This involves the three tires. It is my understanding that the tire and rim are a single unit. That is if you wish to replace or patch the tire this cannot be done, you have to replace the entire unit. You have to special order each tire type. I am not sure of the price or the turn around time. The good news is that the FUV is a light vehicle and your mileage most likely be low, thus a set of tires could last a lone time.
@@chrisconklin2981 those tires are the same kind of thing as motorcycle tires, so the tire is a special order I'm sure, but a tire shop or moto dealer ought to do those with no trouble.
@@thewheelieguy I am not so sure. I looked at a few TH-cam videos and they show the usual tire changing method - take tire off rim etc. If I remember correctly, I was told that the FUV's tire and rim are a unit that cannot be separated and that you have to buy the tire and rim as a unit. I hope that I am wrong.
@@chrisconklin2981 I've never heard of tires that can't be removed from the rim except on specialized equipment. I see no reason why these vehicles wouldn't use some sort of typical motorsports tire and rim like a motorcycle or trike use.
I live in New Zealand. I believe we have a few of these running around our biggest (1.7m people) city, Auckland - and the Arcimoto is legal to drive here. I'm looking forward to getting down there to rent/drive one! Wouldn't it be great if Arcimoto also joined forces with Lithuanian company AKO-trike? They have developed an electric tilt-trike, with a claimed top speed of 140mph and 300+miles range with DC fast-charging. Arcimoto bought out Tilting Motor Works (from whose technologies the MLM Lean Machine Machine has been developed). Imagine if the best of all 3 were combined? They could conceivably conquer the electric 3-wheel markets for e-pedal, intra-city AND interstate e-trike commuting!!
Fun to think about!
Love it. Wish it was available in Europe
Someday they probably will be!
At least you guys have the Twizy and Carver, neither of which is available in North America. I know they're not exactly the same (e.g. don't go as fast) but they're all good urban mobility alternatives.
Wish it was available in the US. They seem to be in terminal shipping soon phase.
Great review! The reasons you listed to buy one of these are why I bought a motorcycle. I’m not sure these will become anything other than a novelty in warm weather states. I can’t imagine driving one in the Midwest year round. We saw this type of stuff crop up in the seventies; never took off.
Time will tell. I had so much fun for the two weeks I had the FUV and fell in love with it. I’ve talked with many other people who feel the same way!
Had mine for a week and have commuted to work in 25 degrees. It's only going to get colder. It's definitely more comfortable than riding the motorcycle in those temperatures. I can wear fewer layers. Best of all, I won't look like as much of a maniac when it snows and will feel less crazy about it too. First snow since receiving it is expected next week!
October 22, 2022 - "Starting today, Arcimoto is now accepting vehicle orders from customers in New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Virginia, Georgia, and Washington D.C.. If you order today, deliveries are expected to arrive within the next 120 days." This is a total of 13 states.
www.ev-resource.com/blog/arcimoto-opens-sales-in-six-new-states
I rented an Arcimoto FUV for a few hours. Here are some things you forgot to mention:
Cons:
1. Steering. Very very heavy at low speeds. I have owned a motorcycle in the past and would prefer a steering wheel w/ rack and pinion setup for more leverage and better control for emergency maneuvers.
2. Expensive. For $20K, I think I'd rather pickup a used Nissan Leaf.
3. Sunburn. I wore a cap, but no sunscreen. Mistake.
4. Braking. There are 2 braking methods: regen (right-hand) and hydraulic (rear-foot to rear wheel). Regen braking is strong and progressive. Foot brake is very very weak. I would prefer an integrated single braking system.
5. Transmission. Makes clunks when getting off of regen braking and accelerating. Disconcerting.
6. No doors. "doors" are an option. I prefer them for their placebo effect.
7. Range. Mfg recommends battery charge between 10-90%. This means its effective range is 80 mi (city) and 40 mi (highway). I used the battery from 90 to 40 % in a few hours and went about 50 mi. in mixed city/highway.
8. Nitpicks. Seat height is not adjustable. Front legroom is slightly cramped for my 5'8" frame. Rear passenger has no hand holds -- must hold part of frame. Mirrors should be 20-50% larger and positioned higher. Ride is firm but not harsh. I would prefer a softer ride with more suspension travel.
Pros:
1. Stable. Even at highway speeds.
2. Relatively quiet. The aerodynamics are quite good and wind noise is not objectionable.
3. Vehicle is wide (stable). It feels like it's as wide as a Mini Cooper.
Conclusion.
I would consider this vehicle if it cost $10K. For $20K, I'd rather buy 2 brand-new motorcycles. I consider this a niche vehicle.
Agreed! Especially with your conclusion. I’d have one in my driveway if they were $10k
I love it!
They’re amazing!
LOL, I think I just met you at 9109 Stoney Point! So here in VA do we not have to get a 3 wheel Motorcycle license? 4hrs @ a level 2 charger for a 90% charge, where are these located? Are the charge stations at some gas stations faster? Sorry to hit you with so many questions
Hey Rich! Here on VA a motorcycle license IS still required. Level 2 stations are located ALL OVER! To help locate these chargers, I suggest using apps like Chargeway and PlugShare. I’ve found those to be helpful.
Many of the charging stations at gas stations like Wawa and Sheetz are DC Fast chargers and not currently compatible with the Arcimoto platform.
If you have more questions ask away! I live to share.
I appreciate your demonstration. You say you are concerned about all the pollution and toxins in the driving space. Yet you drive a fully open on both sides motorcycle. Interesting. It would be good if Arcimoto formulated panels or something to protect us from the whipping rain we sometimes get in tropical climates. I think the Solo in Mesa, AZ should consider this design for 2 passengers. We do have too many deadly accidents with motorcycles and other vehicles. If we could slooooowwww people down, life might be longer for thousands of people. Keep up the great reviews.
I drove the FUV to test it, and while I do care about air pollution generally… it’s more about the effect to our collective health than that of myself personally. I do see the irony that you point out though!
Heavy vehicles with climate control are a self fufilling prophesy of pollution. I stay bone dry in a heavy rain with my Arcimoto. The wind pressure shoves all the rain away from me. Doors would just be useless dead weight. Only when you are standing still could the rain come from a direction that might get you damp before you start driving again. The roof with rain gutters is part of the protection that no motorcycle offers.
I configurator a $24,500 one. I love this little 3 wheeler. Looks like fun
Would that have been the Roadster for that price?
@@EVResource I added doors, cup holder phone mount, painted wheels ,back storage locker . Graphics, and diamond stitching
Awesome! I think that would likely be the configuration I'd go for too. Maybe not the diamond stitching... even though it does look really good.
great fun. how much does having a passenger affect battery life? Can I charge using standard plug at home? if so, how long to charge?
Having a passenger doesn’t really affect things in a significant way. You can absolutely charge on a standard 110volt plug, charging would take approximately 8hrs if you needed a full charge in this way. If you needed a faster charge, 240v would cut that time in half.
Nice review; what's your real world mileage that you are getting on your arcimoto?
So I only had the FUV for two weeks, but I was getting roughly 65 miles at a speed of 55mph. So it’s definitely a vehicle for the city, but it’s GREAT at lower speeds. Around town the 100 miles range is definitely possible.
@@EVResource Thanks for the update! :)
What’s the life charge cycles of the batter, and any thing on the horizon for a bigger battery pack
No idea actually! Very good questions though.
So far . . . I'm intrigued. I'm in the PNW . . . and curious how protected you are from the rain in one of these. Wish you had expanded on that. Wonder if there's any attachment you can buy for rainy season(s)
I would imagine pretty well! They've started making west coast style doors and even without them, I handled a little rain with no problem at all: th-cam.com/video/-dPeNxtVgus/w-d-xo.html
There are plenty of owners in Washington. Some want the door option but really between the wrap around windshield and the roof with rain gutters you need only the lightest rain gear for when you are not moving and the rain is blowing sideways. I stay dry in mine in Florida but my career was in Washington so I know the weather. The FUV was designed in Eugene, a northwest city.
@@popeyegordon Thanks! I've been reading more bout them . . . I guess it's like the thing about how PNW locals always laugh at tourists who carry umbrellas here.
@@popeyegordon Hey Mr. Gordon, thanks for your informative comment. I appreciate it. Are you down in south Florida? I am in North Central Florida. Where did you purchase it? Have you had any bizzare issues you could not handle? I drive 60 miles round trip to swim 3 days a week. I drive 65 mph. No backroads😒. What do you think? Am I in a dilemma?
Be nice if it had a tow capability to hook up to the back of an RV. Also some attachable sides for inclement weather.
They do have west cost style half doors that enclose the very bottom of vehicle. As far as towing it with another vehicle, I suppose a flat bed trailer for a motorcycle should work well!
Would love to get one. Md is a hard state to get vehicles like this approved
I think you’re likely right. Maryland will be one of the harder states that Arcimoto has to deal with.
Md is just an over legislated state with to many useless rules. Great looking vehicle though
@@darrianross367 They're actually approved in Maryland now, if you're not already aware.
New production shop hopfully brings the price point down for the charge mileage it gets,and doors would be a nice touch
I hope so too. It's currently too expensive, but they plan on getting a lower cost option.
Great video! How long for level 2 charging to get to 80%?
If only going to 80% it would take a little less than 4 hours. Maybe 3.5hrs or so.
@@EVResource Thanks. My concern is will I be waiting at a charging station for 3.5 hours or so on a regular basis. Before buying this vehicle I need to find charging stations near my home where I can leave my Arcimoto plugged in and walk home.
@@Jaykilla1981 Yeah since it's primarily a city vehicle or commuter you probably won't need to charge en route but rather at home or at your destination.
@@2nd3rd1st I need a charging spot that is open 24hrs that is near my home. How hard is it to get a charger installed in an apartment building garage.
@@Jaykilla1981 You don't need to install a special charger. It will fully charge overnight with just a regular 110 outlet.
I want one!
Me too!
I think the Polaris Slingshot walked so a lot of these three wheel companies could run.
The only three wheeler I remember before the slingshot distinctly was the Campagna T-Rex which was very expensive. The only people I distinctly remember driving them were celebrities and athletes.
I wish them the best, however I see this product being very niche.
Definitely agree. They are not traveling on a road that hasn't already been paved. While it could be a widely accepted vehicle, I think you're right that it will likely be a niche... but we'll see!
Where & how do I go to get one or put down a payment to reserve one !? I'm in Maryland.
Www.Arcimoto.com for all of that! 👍👍
so its fwd? a hybrid kit with a gas motor on just the back wheel would be kinda sick. could charge the battery and provide extended life for how ever long a small tank would last.
Yes, FWD only. I imagine you could rig something up to drive the rear wheel. Even if it wasn’t very powerful… 20hp would go a long way on the highway, which is where the Arcimoto FUV doesn’t do so well.
@@EVResource Daytona anima makes a 190cc 4 valves single cylinder, I think it makes more than that. its just a big pit bike engine. I bet someone could get that to work with it.
Good review except
a) Level 2 charging may be familiar with EV fans but perhaps elaborate what that equates to in kwh terms?
b) Stating the range is fine but why not state exact battery pack kwh (and possible configs/options?)
Great points, thanks for your feedback!
What type of batteries are used...+ how many charge cycles are the batteries rated for ?
Hey Peter! The batteries used are NMC pouch cells from Farasis Energy. I don't know the charge cycles the batteries are rated for, but Arcimoto says that under normal usage they expect the pack to last at least 8 yrs.
@@EVResource Thanks for the Info. Lithium Ion pouch batteries according to one mfg. 2000 cycles.
What about security? Is there any sort of security system in place? I live in the city where crime is high and I don't want anyone just climbing into my ride.
It’s as secure as a motorcycle, and with the optional locking storage in the back, maybe a lot more secure. But there really isn’t anything to keep anyone from climbing into it.
great product.
Completely agree!
Best bike Ever 😍 just awesome
💯
How does everyone feel about Arcimoto, today, especially with less than $10M in cash before the recent $4.5M convertible bridge loan at 10% interest? I made money on FUV (got out north of $26) but was critical of Mark as CEO way before that!
The vehicle and architecture is great. Mark’s vision and idea of what the future should be is something shared with a lot of people. As far as the stock price and financials, it definitely remains to be seen. They have a lot of work ahead of them as a company, that’s for sure.
Can they build a passenger fuv?,the driver is in the back and the two seat passenger is in the front.,
I’d say it’s very unlikely that they develop a different configuration.
That would be a wider heavier vehicle. Not the goal of this company.
I assume this Arcimoto is considered to be a Bike?????
Is it OK to use my car Drivers license to drive this vehicle???
What kind of License plates are needed/required to drive this vehicle???
What do insurance companies classify the Arcimoto as??? Is Insurance expensive for it???
Watching videos, I guess it is OK that a helmet is not needed?????
I live in Northern Illinois, so I would like to see how one of these do in snowy weather, up hills and inclines. Although it would be too cold for me to use this open air vehicle and enjoy it. I am looking for a year round all weather EV.
Thanks for the video.
The Arcimoto FUV is classified as an autocycle or motorcycle depending on the state. Also, helmet laws and motorcycle license laws vary state to state too.
If you treated this as if it were a motorcycle, and bundled up when riding in colder weather, it would be ok. Having an enclosed vehicle in the cold areas is a good idea in addition to the FUV. I did drive it in 30 degree weather and was ok. It’ll depend on each person and their tolerance I suppose.
This is best when used as an additional vehicle, not one to replace what you already have 100% of the time.
I can envision a future where vehicles like this are used for single rider, commutes to work, and then many people choose to have a larger “regular” vehicle or SUV for carting around the whole family.
The main issue right now is although 17 K is a good price, it’s perhaps still a bit too expensive to have a couple of those (one for each adult) plus a large vehicle for the whole family. Plus, it will not all fit in the garage.
Great points!
Well if you liked 17 k maybe you will love 20k
Where can you get it in Canada Ontario?
I don’t believe it’s available in Canada yet.
Do they have a number or website to order one.
You bet: Arcimoto.com
As a motorcyclist I like the idea but it’s too big. I would prefer something the size of the Adiva AD3. Is parking a problem for this? The nice thing about scooters/motorcycles is the free parking. I like the lack of doors. Scooter riders use a lap cover that snaps onto the bike when it’s cold out. Motorcyclists wear protective over gear. I agree the price is too steep to sell enough to make an impact. Unless the government will subsidise.
Arcimoto says you can fit three of these in a parking spot. I could fit it diagonally into some pretty small spaces. It’s comparable in size to the CanAm Spyder.
Pricing is expected to come down when they reach max production rate in 2025… but with the way inflation is these days, who knows. I hope that it does though. It would be great to see sub-$15k for these.
I hope it end up in the east coast New York area because i would get 1
I believe NY will be one of the next states available. I know JOCO is doing a pilot program of the Deliverator in NYC staring in June!
How can you ride this if it's storming or if it's 15 degrees Fahrenheit?
Would you ride ANY motorcycle in those conditions??? That just sounds crazy.
@@EVResource it actually doesn't sound crazy because this is supposed to be more of a replacement to a car to get you around town or city. It even has doors you can buy and they're working on adding a/c and heat to it along with doors with glass to fully enclose it, the buttons are literally there already for these future features. So right now it's a half finished product really at pretty much $20,000. So let's not try to make it seem like this is geared towards bikers or being used like one. Once they add the fully enclosed doors and heat and a/c it'll most likely take off.
With a fully enclosed cockpit this absolutely will be ready for more use cases!
@@Poteluz No. This is a finished product that is selling well as-is. There is always weather when we should stay home. Disastrously, people are using the raw brute force of wasteful fossil fueled vehicles to bash through all weather. We are now paying for that deadly mistake.
@@EVResource I've ridden to work in -8 degrees F on one of my motorcycles. So far in the FUV only 25 degrees, but give me another few weeks and it'll get much colder indeed.
I want to buy one
You and me both. I can’t wait till they’re available everywhere!
Do you plan to make a version with a steering wheel and pedals like a car? How about a wide body version with a fatter tire in the back and more room with doors ?
Great comment MD H. I doubt that Arcimoto will make those types of changes to the FUV, and have heard nothing from the company about going in that direction for future vehicles.
What kind of license does this require in California?
Great question! Based on what I can find, you only need a regular drivers license to drive an auto cycle in California. Here is a link to Arcimoto’s website about that:
www.arcimoto.com/state-guidelines
Are these street legal in Canada?
It depends on the province. Similar to the US states, many provinces in Canada allow three-wheelers to be registered as road-use vehicles with either a valid driver’s or motorcycle license and many jurisdictions require the use of both seatbelts and helmets with the vehicles.
But check with local laws!
Absolutely would love to see the aftermath of accidents even at 30mph on these.
Definitely better than a motorcycle. I’ve seen people who have gotten hit in the rear by a driver that had ran a light. They were ok.
You have to keep in mind that this is definitely not a car. Safety should be compared to motorcycles… and the FUV is better in this way!
Collision safety is the same as with any small US made car. It uses the formula one racing safety method of a crash cage and a 6 point harness. No helmet or air bags needed. No doors with steel beams needed. The first bad 35 mph collision has already happened. The guy walked away with just bruises while the pickup was totalled on the center crash cage post which did not yield.
@@EVResourcewould never ride a motorcycle either. Definitely need more safety data to convince people to buy.
Sorta one sided video, you really didn't mention any of the con . Such as doors? Or lack there of , plus that everything from doors to storage is an extra, plus no windows ! Huge in some areas. Your looking closer to 23k . That is pricey for a vehicle that can't do a lot of things a reg car can do
Absolutely one sided! It’s not supposed to be a car. As designed, it knocks it out of the park. It’s the best of a motorcycle while retaining a little bit of the comfort of a car.
No vehicle is going to do everything for everybody, but the FUV gets close to handling 80% of the needs.
If you get the chance, drive one…
I live in the town they are made in. I wanted to work there
That’s so cool! Do you see a lot of them running around Eugene?
Price?
They now start at $19,900, but there are used ones in their inventory for less. You should check out their website: www.arcimoto.com
they started out saying 11-12k pricewise then it was 15k now its 18k i really like this but there are better options for the price....you can get a nissan elec for 24 after rebates and its not much bgger but seats four and you can use it year round plus it gets better mileage per charge.....
They have said that they will be able to get to a sub-$15k price when they reach full production.
Thats like saying why would I buy a pizza hut pizza when I can get a dollar menu cheeseburger from McDonalds. Apples to oranges. If you want a car you buy a car. You want a fun toy ride you buy a motorcycle or 3-wheeler.
@@leerjet18 That makes zero sense....
@@handytbutler7380 For the slight difference in price I would rather have the pizza. Its a much better value. The F150 Lightning at $40k is a 10X better value.
I would've bought this in a heartbeat at 12k. But 18k starting is too close to a small car. Too bad.
The roof should be a solar panel so that the battery can be charge while driving on a sunny day.
The roof is so small, solar would likely only add 5-10 miles of range on a sunny day. Not sure the added cost and complexity would be worth it.
I would buy one of these for a few drawbacks:
1. Price is too high
2. I would want a 4-wheel version and;
3. Charging needs improvement
Charging definitely needs improvement if you want to use it for something other than a city vehicle and you drive more than average.
It’s really stable with only three wheels, I don’t see how adding a fourth would improve anything.
Price is high, but cost of ownership is low. Consider that this really wouldn’t require much maintenance at all! Very little “fuel” cost (I was able to charge for free the entire two weeks I had this one to test)
@@EVResource Adding a fourth wheel would do one thing most of all: Increase insurance and registration costs significantly!
Isn’t that the truth!
Buy one of these to enjoy the experience and convenience for sure. If you buy one of these thinking it's actually going to make a difference in the world in terms of pollution, etc. that's silly. Let's be the adults in the room and be honest. It will never make a difference if China and India don't change their ways. I would buy one but I would buy it for the right reason. Not the unrealistic one. IMO.
Sure, on a global scale it’s only one small piece… but on a local level, it’ll have a more significant impact. Not only for the people who drive them, but for everybody else too. A small step in the right direction is better than stagnation.
Let’s just hope that China and India DO follow along someday!
Rounding up the change for donations as an individual or a handful of individuals makes no difference either, but if you get enough people to do it a difference can be made. Obviously I don't disagree about getting other major nations on board as well, but little improvements shouldn't be ignored either.
Why not solar panels on the roof ?
Cost, weight, and complexity. That and they would do very VERY little good. Not worth it.
The concept is great and many new EVs offer solar but they have more room for mounting solar. The FUV's roof is pretty small, barely room for 100 watts of panels which is just a trickle charge.
Have you heard Toyota i-road????
Sure have! It was an interesting concept from a few years ago. I think that one was most similar to something like the Nimbus Halo. The Arcimoto is much bigger than that though. Haven't thought about the i-road in a while!
test drove one now my arcimoto is being built.
Awesome! When are your expecting delivery?
Have you got it yet?
@@buck-johnson not yet just waiting for one more person to pay for their arcimoto to ship & Arcimotos at once.
@@EVResource anytime this month or the start of the next.
So, there are no side windows? What if u live in cold area?
For right now? Bundle up! For the future… they’re working on a fully enclosed option.
A snowmobile is not worthess just because it can not be used in Florida.
I get asked that all the time when I tell people I've never driven a car. "What do you do in the winter??" Answer: "I get cold and wet, obviously."
@@Keeper1st I had no car for 7 years. Using a fancy solar/pedal powered trike with an enclosed body shell (my avatar image) meant I never got wet and avoided wind chill while being safer than a bicyclist. All that time with no car insurance or gas to buy saved me so much money I paid cash for my Arcimoto. I'm now in year 8 since I bought my last gallon of gas.
I think it’s really onto something, especially after just returning from Italy. They will sell many there. People are going to want doors to stay warm, or to make sure their kids/pets are extra safe.
Yes, for sure!
Nah, there are a billion motorcycles and scooters with no doors. Doors are an option for the Arcimoto but most do not want them. The windshield is a wind break and there are heated seats and hand grips. Arcimoto sells a pet carrier bin. For now, laws do not permit use of child seats in autocycles.
This is great for food deli
For sure
@@EVResource They do actually make a "Deliverator" with the entire passenger seating area turned into a giant cargo compartment.
Yes the do. 👍
i wanna see this in Germany. The Renault Twizy is bad against this.
Hopefully they’ll go international with it. I think this would likely do better in Europe than here in North America
@@EVResource Possible. Twizy fans would love the FUV! But in Germany the safety standard of vehicles is over-regulated. Just like almost everything in Germany. But I think it's doable, especially if you specify it as a quad.
Where is the Spare Tire???
No spare tire.
@@EVResource in the future perhaps ?
Most cars don't even include spares anymore. Fact.
@@leerjet18 l will google to find vehicles were already "FLATPROOF" thanks for the info...
Maybe, but I honestly doubt it. There isn't a lot of room for one and because of it's short range, you're never going to be out of towing distance from a tire shop.
How was able to drive 9hrs?!
I stopped to charge along the way. It was not 9 hours straight. I wouldn’t be able to do that even if the FUV could!
@@EVResource Lol 👍
Neat, I hope they sell like hotcakes!
I think they’ll sell every one they can make for year.
To be honest, I am disappointed. I made a deposit 3 or 4 years ago and still waiting. I am in Tennessee and would be happy to drive to Oregon and trailer it back. That’s not an option. I live near Gatlinburg and Pigeon Forge and if you know this area you know how many people clog the sidewalks and streets here. I don’t know why they aren’t here renting and selling them like they are in Florida.
That’s definitely a long time to wait for anything! Hopefully they’ll be available in all 50 states soon…
@@EVResource these guys started in 2008-2009, they don't do anything quickly
You just get the battery ranges within the 2 to 300 mile range this would be practical.
Agreed. OR have one that is equipped with DCFC. My Spark EV has a 65 mile range at 65 mph and I don't mind at all because I can recharge fully in 20 min. I'd likely feel the same way about the FUV.
@@EVResource I live in Arizona and I often go to Laughlin and Vegas. You would never make it there in one of these EVS. I wish though
Two up front...with 1 in the back would be a much better design. Even if the front was cramped with 2.
Less is more… why do you want more passengers?? 😊 There is certainly room in the marketplace for someone to build that.
And two up front makes the footprint too wide.
I love the idea of this but can't rationalize buying one over a used Nissan leaf with better safety, features, and range for less money.
As someone with experience with both vehicles, I can tell you that while the Leaf is much more practical... the FUV is WAAAAY more fun! So if you want practicality, go with the Leaf, but if you like to feel the air, see the sights, hear the sounds, and have a ton of fun... the FUV is the best way to go!
@@EVResource Then I guess the next question would be, will the FUV be cheaper and easier to maintain and outlast a Leaf? If it's potentially a one time life long purchase it might be easier to rationalize.
The problem with this is the cheapest EV cars can had for very little extra and I think for the primary market they are aiming for it's overengineered it doesn't need 2 motors or 75mph while there is a place for a fun version a basic bread and butter version is needed
Very interesting view! Nobody else has ever said that to me. 👍
The design needs two motors. They can turn in opposite directions to achieve torque vector steering at low speeds. Mine will go 84 mph. I don't need that speed but DO really appreciate the peppy acceleration with the motor noise like a jet turbine. Exciting but not an obnoxious peace disturbing rumble like Harleys. The FUV is in fact the basic bread and butter version for vehicles that can deal with highway speeds. It is very safe too.
@@popeyegordon it maybe better with 2 motors but it doesn't need 2 motors excellents makes things expensive good makes them sellable
@@p24hrsmith You do not understand the engineering. When two front drive wheels are used they need two motors. All the new autocycles will be doing this. Aptera is putting the motors in the hubs! This cuts the cost of gear boxes and drive shafts or a differential, all heavy items that weigh down a weight sensitive light EV. There is an autocycle that has belt drive to the rear tire only, that needs just one motor. If you pay less you get less - that single motor one has just one seat and a tiny trunk. You are stuck with old thinking about ICE drive trains.
@@popeyegordon I am more than qualified to understand the engineering thank you and if you actually read my comments properly my criticism is not the quality of the engineering but the expense of it which makes it uncompetitive especially when you have the likes of the Kandi K27 coming to the market
It's cute but with out being fully enclosed with heat & ac at that price piont it's not going to do well at all with end use consumers .
It will do much better than motorcycles will do, as it’s safer, more practical, and just as fun!
@@EVResource breaking "tradition" will be the biggest obstacle at this price point and could also be the end before it truly begins before a Chinese or American engineer with out investors to feed builds and sells then at less than 1/2 price.
4to 5 grand will be the death of this otherwise amaziing re take on the 3. wheeled lean technology.
@@yonihales9133 They currently have half doors available and will have full doors by next year. It has heated seats & grips, as well as heater near windshield (all standard). A/C will be an option at some later point as well. Price will come down to $15k potentially near the end of 2023 and eventually come down to their target of 10-12k.
@@EVResource Maybe, but still prefer a fully enclosed vehicle especially when I live in a colder state. This vehicle is no more than a glorified bike and is used in the warmer weather. You have not shown/proved to me how this does in snowy weather.
@@dathyr1 if I ever have the opportunity to test one in the snow I’ll definitely post it up!
- Do you need a driver license to used this or not my friend ?
Yes, a driver's license is required everywhere. Many states also require a motorcycle license or endorsement. Check with your local laws for specific details on 3-wheeled vehicles.
@@EVResource - I will thanks my friend
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Pop a roof rack on there and it would handle 99% of my trips.
That’s awesome! What would your put on the roof?
Great toy for super elites.
What is a “super elite”?
18,000 you could buy a new car with all wheels. This price of $15,000 at most with 150 mi city range.
Pricing is definitely something that needs to be brought down once (if) they reach volume production.
@@EVResource with your price tag you can add bells and whistle that really didn't cost much like Tesla did. No task lights on the way to make a $20,000 car.$20 electric car.
Do you need a driver's license ?
Yes, also, depending on what state laws are where you live, a motorcycle license or endorsement may also be required.
But the price starts at 18,000! That's way too expensive. I can get a scooter or motorcycle much cheaper, or a used car. It's not electric but I can afford it. Are they only selling products for rich people? I mean, you can get a new car for the price of their FUV.
Their plan is to offer sub-15k after ramping production.
I thought that too but ours has saved so many miles on our regular car that between less $60 oil changes (oil and filter only) and 8000 miles less in gas (266 gallons at an average of 30 mpg in my Subaru), we have saved at least $1000 in 2 years. I'm not counting how much exhaust we've not put out into the air. Because 4 of us use the FUV (she is a bit of a village bicycle), ours is pretty well utilized for short drives.
Which new car is18000? I want one.
Great goal but doomed for failure. Here is why. Many states require a motorcycle endorsement for 3 wheels. Mine included. I think its stupid but unless these laws can be removed, people are not going to want to go through the hassle of getting a motorcycle endorsement. I would be driving a spyder right now if I didn't need an endorsement. So unless laws get changed to allow 3wheel riding with normal license, it will never be normal on the streets. Now my personal issue is the 100 mile range. After owning a nissan leaf for 3 years, I can honestly say, all electric vehicles should have at least 250 mile range. The infrastructure for charging is years, possible decades away from being convenient for all. That 100 mile rane wouldn't be so bad if there was always a charging station within reach and charging taking no longer that 10 minutes tops. This is coming from a current EV owner. Love my bolt, but I can't just take it anywhere like I would want to in a regular car. The charging infrastructure isn't there for it yet.
Luckily many states are changing their laws so that you don’t have to have a motorcycle endorsement or license to drive a three wheeler. I believe Alabama and Maryland are the most recent. My state of VA is one that hasn’t made the changes yet, so I understand.
The 100 mi range and lack of fast charging are two things I would change about e Arcimoto, but that’s only because what I want (and you as well it would seem) is something other than what the FUV was designed for.
My 82 mi range Spark EV has been plenty (because of DCFC capability), so I think if the FUV could fast chargers it would be great.
Thanks for your comment!
@@EVResource I might disagree with that last statement. How many motorcycle people do you know that is thrilled to ride from their house, to work and back? Well all of them, but how many of them are satisified with that short of a ride? Very few. What is fun about only 100 mile range? Absolutely nothing and I can only guess that 100 mile range is if you baby it all the time. You know whats fun? Leaving everyone behind as you pull out of the stop light. This greatly reduces your range. In fact, I bet my 80 mile range leaf was probably getting about 40-50 miles because I like quick starts and you get a lot of chances at it in cities. I do not believe any electric vehicle made today should have such low milage. Its very impracticle. If I want to go to my fathers place that's 2 hours away. Can't do it in an 80 or 100 mile range vehicle. There are no level 3 chargers between me and him. The FUV would be perfect for a trip like that IF it had the range. I can go to my fathers in my bolt and come back and still have 60 mile range and that's not babbying it at all. That's 70-75mph most of the way.
I'm sorry, I just don't see the Arcimoto as a tuktuk. I mean that seems to me, that is what is being thought of here (more or less). Its a fun utility vehicle with a very poor range. Sure I guess it might have some limited uses but isn't it just a more expensive tuktuk at that point?
There are things currently that I can't even do in my bolt. If I wanted to drive to my home town, its 4 hours away. There is 1 lvl 3 charger along the entire route. Its a huge elevation change from here to there so 1 lvl 3 charger is not enough. This is part of the bad infrastructure that we are sorely lacking and unfortunately the automotive industry is in no hurry to try and push that out quickly. Heck most car manufactors that sell pure ev's don't even want to sell them. So I have to say, infrastructure is still decades away.
So cool but expensive.
Expensive? Maybe for some… but it’s worth every penny.
@@EVResource expensive (i.e. by definition not worth every penny) for most of the world (that doesn't live in the US or Europe) including me.
4:55 totally off-subject. Seems like scary place for a bike lane crossing - look for fast-moving vehicles.
Yeah, bicycles should definitely be careful there!
It currently is priced at$ 17,900 and goes up from there. Let's be real, at such an expensive price it will never achieve mass adoption and remain a very niche product ideally suited and limited to operating within city and town limits as a recreation vehicle such as for tourists in an area like Key West, Florida. It's an admirable idea but the masses don't want or need what is essentially a gloried golf chart on steroids for mass transit within cities. There are many E bikes on the market that present a vastly cheaper and in many cases better alternative for many than this does.
Does it need to sell 100,000’s of units per year? No. It does not. It fits nicely in the space between a car and a motorcycle though!
@@EVResource But that's what's needed. We need to drastically reduce our carbon footprint and this is one excellent way of rapidly doing that. And it's so much fun. I don't think all the kinks are worked out, example that all the buttons on the center console don't work, except one. But the biggest problem is price, the base model was promised at under $12,000. If they can refine it and get the price down then it might reach it's potential. Did I add it's a lot of fun?
if WE ALL are Part of the G.W. Problem. Let's Faced it , Let's Be ALL Part of The Solution. HOW.?.
Being Honest Enough for Buying and Selling Everything What's Necessary to Finish The Product. and Contribute as A Group, as A Team.
Yep , sub 12,000 for a commuter would make more sense. Not many will give up 17.000 -25.000 which is a Tesla down payment.
Check out the Can Am spyder. It starts at $18499 without any extra features. Can am spyders sell pretty well. Can am use gas. They require oil and transmission fluid change. At $17900, fuv are a bargain 🤷♂️ and they even offer more security because of the enclosure. The Arcimoto company just needs to scale up production.
Expensive? Have you seen an electric mountain bike price?
"Expensive" is relative and changes from person to person, and family to family. But I understand what you're getting at.
Not expensive in 2022 when the average price of an electric car is $64,000
I was saying thats is not as expensive as i would have thought
The range in colder weather with some highway speeds will be like 30-40 miles. Not a chance I'd dump that kind of money for one. It's time for companies to build stuff that's actually useful instead of silly, overpriced novelty toys.
When I originally tested the FUV it was in February and definitely got down around freezing. When I tested again in warmer weather I did notice that I could go a bit further, but I was also much more familiar with the idiosyncrasy of the FUV and was likely driving more efficiently as well.
That being said, it's MUCH more fun to drive in warmer weather!
I agree that it's too expensive, and even the company said that they wanted to see prices drop when they hit volume production... which doesn't look like that will happen as they've halted production altogether and are fighting to stay alive.
No windows. Can’t drive in rain.
I did! Check out my other Arcimoto videos…
We stay dry in rain as long as we are moving. Mine keeps me dry. Windows turn vehicles into solar ovens.
it will be difficult for this company to competed with many other electric car company. Tesla will be coming out with a $5000 car soon and many companies in China already have $5000 EV.
I see your point, and I would agree if Arcimoto was trying to compete in the automobile space. However, they aren’t. They aren’t building any vehicle that would be considered a car, and as far as I know, aren’t planning to that anytime soon.
60 mile range on four hours of charging is ridiculous. Someone competent needs to take over this company.
I would have loved to have the battery upgraded to have greater range and faster charging… but honestly that didn’t affect my using it for two weeks. It’s not designed to be a long range vehicle and it does what it was designed to do very well.
That being said, 150 miles of range at 55 mph and DCFC would be things I would add to the platform if possible.
The EPA tested range is 101 miles, not 60. You lied. Competent people have no need to lie.
Just take public transportation
Sadly, public transportation is very limited in the US with some places being impossible to get to where you’re going only with buses, trains, and etc.
An autonomous version of the Arcimoto can come to your door to pick you up. Like an Uber but with no driver. That is what we need to do when public transportation is not accessible.
15k and you have buyers. Less than 10k, everyone will finance one. FUV will arrive and shatter vehicle market shares.
Wouldn't that be great?! I'd love to see these get down in price. The catch is that in order for Arcimoto to be able to sell these for less money, they have to mass produce them... which means they need A LOT of people to buy them at the current pricing.
I hope they figure out a way, buecase these are the most amazing vehicles.
glass roof... i will pass
It’s actually not glass, but a high strength material like lexan. I’m not sure of the exact material, but it is much lighter and stronger than any glass would be.
@@EVResource sun can toast you through it... no thanks
Oh, well, sure. There is that. I suppose you could tint it. I just wore a hat and found that I was fine. But then again, after riding only motorcycles for years, I got used to being in the sun. Certainly wouldn't be for everybody!
Now have Let’s Go Brandon make special roads for your toys and leave the other the way they are not everyone wants an electric car 🚙 you’re still going to gasoline and coal to power up the electric cars lol
Carlos, you might want to stop drinking the Kool-aid! Your comment sounds like it’s about a decade too late! Try again next time.
No engine, sorry…
Don’t be sorry, that’s part of what makes it better!
There are two engines actually. More reliable with fewer moving parts.
It’s giving rich person golf cart 😂
80mph “golf cart”… 😂😂
No, these are nothing like a golf cart. Try again.
Once again the nuances between black America and AAVE fall on deaf ears 🤣 everyone calm down it’s not an insult
@@MNIU_ We heard you but you did not hear us. It is an insult to compare the FUV design and capability to a golf cart that is not even street legal.
@@popeyegordon I’ll break it down for you
A golf cart is something people who have the money to afford have to drive around and run errands on their large property bc it’s so large
This is what someone more wealthy would have but for the same purposes
It’s like comparing an e bike to a ducatti , I’m saying similar purpose just an upgrade for those who can afford it
Still again no insult calm down , only in America would it be an insult to call someone rich 🤣
Don't know why someone would call their machine FU-V
Fun Utility Vehicle.
If you’ve ever driven one, the reason for the name becomes quite clear.
I watching fuv car from 5 years but the price is too much.. Very expensive. In this price in Pakistan 17900 dollars we buy 10 car easily.... Sorry arcimoto.. Maybe my grand sons will be buy it in 2060 😂
What kind of vehicle are you buying for $1790?
Your country has far cheaper labor and much lower safety standards. Your vehicles do not go as fast and they are not as safe. If Arcimoto opened a plant in Pakistan the sales price would be half as much. And you forgot the far better value of buying an electric vehicle with no need to buy gasoline!
In the USA the average cost of a new electric vehicle is $60,000 USD! They are very safe and they go faster.
Well said.
@@popeyegordon I was replying to you...
Overpriced
Check out my 5 likes and dislikes video, this is one of the things I talk about!
Not is this day and age. The average price of a new EV in the US in 2022 is $66,000.
this garbage should not cost more than $ 3,000 copied from India there are billions of them there just to imagine Indians buying them for $ 18,000 .
I can tell you’ve never driven one. Thanks for your opinion, have a great day!
Anything that costs $3K is garbage or a toy. Period. The average price of a new EV in the US is $64,000 in 2022. There are over $4000 in materials in the FUV and add labor and warranty costs to see the very reasonable price. Mine is very economical to own and use as well.