@deez she obviously wants so badly to connect, especially when she sees Lorelai and Rory's relationship. But she doesn’t know how. She doesn't know how to relinquish control and let go. She was raised a certain way and people like that don't change easily. That's why I feel bad for her. I didn't mean she's a great person or not at fault. She deserves pity for being unable to let go of the past hurt between her and Lorelai, for being rigid. A therapist could've helped with all of that.
I think what Emily and Richard really wanted was for Lorelei to just take accountability of her actions and apologise for putting them through the pain and everything, which she never did. She always said she had to do what she had to do to be sane but never really thought about who is getting hurt in those decisions
@@lauriecarson6483 She loves them in the way she knows best- provision-based perhaps, but it IS love. She DOES care- you can see it in her heartbreak the moments scattered through the series where she sees where she's failed to connect and/or doesn't know her daughter and/or grand daughter like she thought or feels she should. She DOES love them, and yes, she does struggle to relate and display it in what "normal" people would call sensible/logical ways... but remember she's from an entirely different type of society and culture of supremely wealthy- she DID try to show them love. She doesn't understand them, not even in the slightest sometimes, but that is not the same as saying she doesn't love them. And her "funny" ways of showing it... like what, using any means she can to ensure she has time spent with them weekly? By giving Rory a place to be when she and her mother are on the outs? By trying to be involved and even getting out of her comfort zone to see their town and "quaint town" life? She wants the best for them- what SHE sees as best, sure, but she wants best for them nonetheless. They conflict on that, what "best" is... but never on "does she love us".
@@lauriecarson6483 Let's be fair, Emily wasn’t the evil, out-of-touch woman people always paint her as. Sure she wasn’t the most agreeable person, BUT her heart was always for Lorelai and Rory. She cared about them and was right more often than anyone ever gave her credit for.
I thinkg It was more due to the lenght of each episode... It's well known thayt many times tv shows make more scenes than the ones we actually get to seeso I think it was an editing desition!!
I think Emily was a good parent in the way she knew how to be. There’s really no evidence that she ever did anything wrong to Lorelei, besides being slightly controlling, but what mother isn’t
@@brandoncherry8713 I agree. Emily wasn't a bad parent. It's normal for a teenager to be resentful of over-controlling parents, but Lorelai is almost 40. Lorelai had everything. Whereas in the episodes where Rory gets anything from her grandparents, it's a big deal that both Rory and Lorelai are appreciative of it. It seems Lorelai took it all for granted and maybe Emily just reminded her of that too often.
@@nintendozo I feel like it wasn't that lorelai took it for granted but that it just wasn't the life she wanted, ya know? I can see your perspective on it though, she had everything she could ever ask for as a child but she didn't have the freedom to be herself without the judgment of her parents
@@brandoncherry8713 I think there’s plenty of evidence for her atrocious parenting even when Lorelai is an adult. I agree she loved her daughter and did her best, but she wasn’t just controlling she was emotionally manipulative and abusive. It’s no wonder Lorelai is afraid to tell her anything because she doesn’t trust her mother to respect her boundaries. There were good moments as well and Emily does learn to do better over time of the show, but she was really bad. Not that she would have resources to know better at the time and yes she did her best and loved her family. Lorelai is also an example or overcompensating for Emily style of parenting and becoming a bad parent in a completely different way. She made Rory grow up too fast and basically expected her daughter to be her emotional support. This family dynamic shows different styles of parenting and what can go wrong with these 2 polar opposites. And at the same it doesn’t demonize people involved who do their best and love their children even if all of them would greatly benefit from therapy at the end of the day 😅.
Always thought there should have been an updated picture of all of them. Emily should have had a picture of Lorelia on one, then the entire family in the middle and Rory on other displayed in her living room.
Emily really does Lorelai and Rory so much. She's just so proud and stubborn (and controlling LBR) that she can't manage to get them, especially Lorelai. But the love is there and it's deep
We can see that nobody from lorelei's world is happy or loves their parents. The only thing keeping the relationship alive is money. But for Lorelei, money wasn't enough so she left. That says a lot about her character. Lorelei is stubborn and annoying, but Richard and Emily could've done better.
I wouldn’t say Lorelei was annoying - money doesn’t always make someone happy and that was clear with Lorelei. She was clearly happier starting with nothing and building up- she couldn’t do that living with her parents so she left but her parents always resented her for that and so there was that tension between them and so she hated asking them for help because she knew they would tell her “I told you so”
I think it's irritating that Lorelai always acts like a victim when she was given everything. Lorelai's response is usually "Well, I didn't ask for any of it" but has no qualms with pushing Rory toward the same path that Emily SO wanted for her daughter. While Emily couldn't relate to Lorelai's emotions, Lorelai's is on the opposite spectrum; she relates to Rory emotionally because she is extremely immature she acts like a teenager.
frr like she is trying so hard to make her mom seem like a monster yes she can sometimes be controlling (like any other mom) but only because she thinks it’s for the best and want her daughter to have everything many would give EVERYTHING to have mom like that, and she is the one who acts like a victim while judging everyone who is in emily’s circle not to mention that so many times she acts as if emily is a k!ller or something
She wasn’t given everything. She may have had all her physical needs met and been given prestigious opportunities but she was emotionally neglected. Emily and Richard were toxic and manipulative people and are shown to continue to be throughout the show. Of course Lorelei as a mother would try to give her daughter all those same wonderful opportunities, but Lorelai also tried to make sure her daughter felt loved, understood, and supported-something she never received growing up.
@@lauriecarson6483 I agree Emily isn't the best parent. She's controlling and stubborn, but I would say Lorelai's string of men coming in and out of Rory's life to the point that Rory tells her own father to get away to not deal with the emotional pain of it not working out; is just as toxic as an old lady from a completely different background bickering over trivial things (that are important to her). Having parents from a wealthy and older generation that can't relate as well to their child as a teen mom would with her teenage daughter, is pretty typical I would say. I can't remember Richard doing anything that traumatic either so I guess I don't see it.
Most likely you saw a different version of the scene and remember how Emily needed sneakers and Rory got some for her, and that they were wearing these clothes, but you only saw the before and after of this moment, not this part of it.
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Poor Emily. They would've really benefited from some family therapy early on.
I think the same!!
Yes
@deez she obviously wants so badly to connect, especially when she sees Lorelai and Rory's relationship. But she doesn’t know how. She doesn't know how to relinquish control and let go. She was raised a certain way and people like that don't change easily. That's why I feel bad for her. I didn't mean she's a great person or not at fault. She deserves pity for being unable to let go of the past hurt between her and Lorelai, for being rigid. A therapist could've helped with all of that.
I think what Emily and Richard really wanted was for Lorelei to just take accountability of her actions and apologise for putting them through the pain and everything, which she never did. She always said she had to do what she had to do to be sane but never really thought about who is getting hurt in those decisions
I LOVE Emily in that show. She loves them so much, even if she doesn't understand them or how she should relate to them.
It's kinda of what love actually is... no matter what, no matter the wounds or the distance, she just love her girls!!!
she has a funny way of showing love to the girl's
@@lauriecarson6483 She loves them in the way she knows best- provision-based perhaps, but it IS love. She DOES care- you can see it in her heartbreak the moments scattered through the series where she sees where she's failed to connect and/or doesn't know her daughter and/or grand daughter like she thought or feels she should.
She DOES love them, and yes, she does struggle to relate and display it in what "normal" people would call sensible/logical ways... but remember she's from an entirely different type of society and culture of supremely wealthy- she DID try to show them love. She doesn't understand them, not even in the slightest sometimes, but that is not the same as saying she doesn't love them.
And her "funny" ways of showing it... like what, using any means she can to ensure she has time spent with them weekly? By giving Rory a place to be when she and her mother are on the outs? By trying to be involved and even getting out of her comfort zone to see their town and "quaint town" life?
She wants the best for them- what SHE sees as best, sure, but she wants best for them nonetheless. They conflict on that, what "best" is... but never on "does she love us".
@@NeverlandSystemKitten yeah okay keep thinking that
@@lauriecarson6483 Let's be fair, Emily wasn’t the evil, out-of-touch woman people always paint her as. Sure she wasn’t the most agreeable person, BUT her heart was always for Lorelai and Rory. She cared about them and was right more often than anyone ever gave her credit for.
this is probably the most intimate Ive seen rory and emily,
Totally!!!
That's possibly why they deleted the scene. It was too sweet and intimate lol
I thinkg It was more due to the lenght of each episode... It's well known thayt many times tv shows make more scenes than the ones we actually get to seeso I think it was an editing desition!!
They should have kept this one! It’s kind of heartbreaking, even though Emily wasn’t a good parent, it hurts to watch.
I think Emily was a good parent in the way she knew how to be. There’s really no evidence that she ever did anything wrong to Lorelei, besides being slightly controlling, but what mother isn’t
@@brandoncherry8713 I agree. Emily wasn't a bad parent. It's normal for a teenager to be resentful of over-controlling parents, but Lorelai is almost 40. Lorelai had everything. Whereas in the episodes where Rory gets anything from her grandparents, it's a big deal that both Rory and Lorelai are appreciative of it. It seems Lorelai took it all for granted and maybe Emily just reminded her of that too often.
@@nintendozo I feel like it wasn't that lorelai took it for granted but that it just wasn't the life she wanted, ya know? I can see your perspective on it though, she had everything she could ever ask for as a child but she didn't have the freedom to be herself without the judgment of her parents
@@allismith5749 can't agree with you more
@@brandoncherry8713 I think there’s plenty of evidence for her atrocious parenting even when Lorelai is an adult. I agree she loved her daughter and did her best, but she wasn’t just controlling she was emotionally manipulative and abusive. It’s no wonder Lorelai is afraid to tell her anything because she doesn’t trust her mother to respect her boundaries. There were good moments as well and Emily does learn to do better over time of the show, but she was really bad. Not that she would have resources to know better at the time and yes she did her best and loved her family.
Lorelai is also an example or overcompensating for Emily style of parenting and becoming a bad parent in a completely different way. She made Rory grow up too fast and basically expected her daughter to be her emotional support. This family dynamic shows different styles of parenting and what can go wrong with these 2 polar opposites. And at the same it doesn’t demonize people involved who do their best and love their children even if all of them would greatly benefit from therapy at the end of the day 😅.
Always thought there should have been an updated picture of all of them. Emily should have had a picture of Lorelia on one, then the entire family in the middle and Rory on other displayed in her living room.
Never thought about it but I think you are soo right!!!! It would¿ve been a nice detail!!!
They do , high school 🏫 and college graduation and even Lorelei’s graduation
Emily is such a conflicted character
She’s a narcissistic mother
Emily really does Lorelai and Rory so much. She's just so proud and stubborn (and controlling LBR) that she can't manage to get them, especially Lorelai. But the love is there and it's deep
She has a funny way of loving them. her pride gets in the way to much.
We can see that nobody from lorelei's world is happy or loves their parents. The only thing keeping the relationship alive is money. But for Lorelei, money wasn't enough so she left. That says a lot about her character. Lorelei is stubborn and annoying, but Richard and Emily could've done better.
I wouldn’t say Lorelei was annoying - money doesn’t always make someone happy and that was clear with Lorelei. She was clearly happier starting with nothing and building up- she couldn’t do that living with her parents so she left but her parents always resented her for that and so there was that tension between them and so she hated asking them for help because she knew they would tell her “I told you so”
This would have been a nice snippet to have kept.
this is such a meaningful little snippet
good deleted scene
I think it's irritating that Lorelai always acts like a victim when she was given everything. Lorelai's response is usually "Well, I didn't ask for any of it" but has no qualms with pushing Rory toward the same path that Emily SO wanted for her daughter.
While Emily couldn't relate to Lorelai's emotions, Lorelai's is on the opposite spectrum; she relates to Rory emotionally because she is extremely immature she acts like a teenager.
frr
like she is trying so hard to make her mom seem like a monster
yes she can sometimes be controlling (like any other mom) but only because she thinks it’s for the best and want her daughter to have everything
many would give EVERYTHING to have mom like that, and she is the one who acts like a victim while judging everyone who is in emily’s circle
not to mention that so many times she acts as if emily is a k!ller or something
Are you watching the sane show as me. Emily plays the victun all the time. Emily starts the fights then blanes Lorelai for stuoid reasons.
I couldn't agree more.
She wasn’t given everything. She may have had all her physical needs met and been given prestigious opportunities but she was emotionally neglected. Emily and Richard were toxic and manipulative people and are shown to continue to be throughout the show. Of course Lorelei as a mother would try to give her daughter all those same wonderful opportunities, but Lorelai also tried to make sure her daughter felt loved, understood, and supported-something she never received growing up.
@@lauriecarson6483 I agree Emily isn't the best parent. She's controlling and stubborn, but I would say Lorelai's string of men coming in and out of Rory's life to the point that Rory tells her own father to get away to not deal with the emotional pain of it not working out; is just as toxic as an old lady from a completely different background bickering over trivial things (that are important to her). Having parents from a wealthy and older generation that can't relate as well to their child as a teen mom would with her teenage daughter, is pretty typical I would say. I can't remember Richard doing anything that traumatic either so I guess I don't see it.
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I saw this scene in it
Most likely you saw a different version of the scene and remember how Emily needed sneakers and Rory got some for her, and that they were wearing these clothes, but you only saw the before and after of this moment, not this part of it.
there was one alike where emily saw that lorleai had a broking leg! in a photot frsame kinda like this
@@mollycasey414 that was during s1 when they invited emily & richard over for rory’s bday party! :) different episode!
This show gives me anxiety
Why??
Why???
and it's my comfort show
Yeah, why?
huh
cool
i didn't know rory was about two years old
In the picture :D
Wait what?! Are you ok hun?
@@ee-mv3es no she don't
@@ee-mv3es oh shut up at least I'm not hateful like you are.
what episode is this from
I think its the episode where Emily goes to Star hollow, to visit Mrs. Kim's antique shop.
like what season and episode
@@evilminde1 Season 1 Episode 19 Emily in wonderland