I can't say enough how grateful I am you posted this. I actually saw this race on TV as it happened way back then. Agree with Frank Wright that Riva Ridge isn't give the credit he deserves. The he insured this breakneck pace that allowed Secretariat to set the world record here - and then lasted to beat everyone else - is truly remarkable. Penny Tweedy had said it was Riva's 3YO season that saved the farm so she didn't have to sell Secretariat. He's really the unsung hero in the whole Meadow Stable story.
Glad you enjoyed it. Frank was a very astute horseman, and he was spot on about Riva's gritty performance; it was great. Riva was a tough horse, and it's a shame that Penny and Lucien ran him too hard in the second half of '72, or he would have won best 3 year old for sure. Key To The Mint was a fine horse, but Riva was better. I agree that Riva is sadly overlooked as the savior of the farm. It's a real shame that he isn't given enough credit.
I was there for this race and remember it well. I was there for the Belmont stakes and remember what I could see as a 12 year old pressed up against the rail at the 16th pole. River Ridge was an incredible horse and should have one in the triple Crown. Secretariat was an incredible horse who was capable of having a bad day. But as far as the best day any horse ever had it has to be the day secretariat won the Belmont Stakes. No horse in history could have beaten him that day. He was also going against older horses here. Riva was a great horse. At his best, secretariat was the greatest horse whoever stepped on a track in my opinion.
Eddie Maple on board Riva Ridge later said in an interview that when he looked back and saw that big red head coming on, there was really nothing you could do about it.
Yes, nothing could stop the Big Red freight train from steamrolling by. What a moment that must have been for Eddie, and then the thrill of riding Secretariat in his last race.
@@secretariat224 Yes... Eddie said he was as scared as he was thrilled to have ridden Secretariat in the colt's last race. What if he lost ( he thought)? He told his wife and kids that he may have to leave for an extended amount of time if that were to happen. The big guy won, of course. Overwhelming victory with what looked like steam from a locomotive coming out of his nostrils down the stretch!
In addition to setting a world record, while easing through an extra furlong, Secretariat set a time of 1:57.8 for the mile and a quarter that was later tied by 4 year old Spectacular Bid for the present day record. INCREDIBLE!
It’s a great to see you guys post again your videos were apart of my childhood. One of the main ways I learned about horse racing when I was a little kid. Great to see you post again.
I used to work for the late great track photographer Tibor Abahazy and seeing him in your videos brings back so many memories and watching these gems just takes me back when it was fun at the tracks. Thank you🍻🍺🍺 😎🤙
@@captainamericaamerica8090 those are some great trainers your Gramps worked for all right. I knew Bobby Frankel where I first met him when I worked Hollywood Park he was a great person. I cried when they closed Hollywood Park, it was a one of a kind track.
@@talisfinney984 Unfortunately, the Captain has made some very disparaging comments about Secretariat that he claimed as "fact", but they were only his opinion. I've dealt with that sort of thing for over 15 years now, but I have muted him from the channel for now. I will reinstate him in a few days to see if he refrains from inflammatory comments in the future. TH-cam automatically hides all comments from muted users, so it was not my intention to remove his original good comments here.
Secretariat finally got some well earned rest after running him sick at Saratoga. People have to understand that Penny Chenery was a socialite. Saratoga was for socialites back then, perhaps is still is, but Secretariat should have been resting from his triple crown and Arlington invitational wins, and brought back in the fall. Once given the rest he deserved he came back unbeatable on the turf and the dirt. If he had raced at four….he would have been a beast beyond what anyone could ever imagine. He was amazing. I saw this race when I was ten.
I've thought the same myself, that if Secretariat had raced as a four and five year old, he would have set records that could never be beaten. It's almost too bad he wasn't a gelding.
It is too bad that Big Red didn't race at four... Or maybe not. The weights the track handicappers would have assigned him to carry would have been incredibly high, and possibly dangerous to his soundness. Unlike today's weight-for-age conditions, the track handicappers would assign the horses whatever weights they felt had the potential to achieve the impossible, a full-field dead heat. In 1976, Forego won the Marlboro Cup under 137 pounds. I'm guessing a 4-year-old Secretariat would have been forced to carry 140 or more. in 1980, Spectacular Bid was dominant, but his trainer made such a stink about the high weights, even ducking races here and there due to the imposts. Mostly because of this sort of trainer practice of pitting one race against another due to weights, the pure handicap race went out of style and they went to a weight-for-age setup with few or even zero modifications. These days, the 126-pound weights assigned for the Triple Crown races are practically always the heaviest weight a horse will ever have to carry in his career.
glad I got to watch this race again -- made me remember just how good Riva Ridge was also -- if not for Secretariat he probably would have won a couple of Horse of the Year titles
Yes, Riva Ridge was very talented. He did a superb job keeping Onion honest from the jump. It took quite a bit out of him, but he showed his mettle. Very proud of him.
Damn (!) as much as I loved my "little brother," I could not beat him to save my life! As Lucien often said, "C'est la vie!" ("That's life"). Cheers to all ;-) P.S. The lovely Penny Chenery was alluding to Riva's fourth place showing (on a very sloppy track) at the Preakness, the previous year (1972). Riva won the Kentucky Derby and the Belmont Stakes in '72 - and a win in the "middle jewel" at Baltimore (of the Triple Crown series) would have given "Meadow Stable" two back-to-back Triple Crown winners (with "Secretariat" taking it in '73). It was not to be, but "Riva Ridge" was a wonderful champion in his own right, and his record proves it.
Thanks for putting this video up... I watched nearly all of Big Red's races on TV, and there are TH-cams of practically all of them, and I have watched them MANY times. But I am unsure if I have EVER found a replay of this Marlboro Cup until now!
Thank you for posting this I have been trying to hear the greatChick Anderson call in this race since I saw a snippet in Penny’s movie. His call far exceeds DaveJohnson
Flighline was a super horse but didn't break any world records while Secretariat broke three to four not counting track records. Secretariat was definitely not a super, it was a double super horse and like that I have not seen any...👍👍👍👍
I used to caddy for "jack 🎃 Whitaker"at the famous wykagyl country club in the 1970s - he couldn't have been nicer ! I used to hang out with my friend "Dave Johnson" at the famous "pj Clarke's" bar/restaurant 55th and 3rd ! A great 😃👍😁🎯 guy ! Hope he's doing well !
Thanks for sharing that terrific insight, Paul, you've been blessed. Both are legends, for sure. I'd love to hear Dave Johnson's NYRA public address racecall for the '73 Belmont Stakes somehow. It would be great to have it in the public domain and for racing posterity. I also hope he is doing well.
Secretariat proved on this day that the Whitney Stakes was a complete fluke - a mistake by his handlers to run him in that race knowing that he was sick. The Marlboro Cup reflected his true ability.
Yes, Onion was a good horse and he performed well, but Secretariat with his low grade fever and loose bowels should've been enough for Penny and Lucien to scratch him and let the crowd know of his predicament. Unfortunately, they felt pressured by the paying crowd to see Secretariat run, and gave in to it. Sure, the crowd would've felt robbed of the experience, but the horse should always come first. It's a shame that it happened, and critics just LOVE to discredit Big Red for that loss, without all of the facts, of course. The Marlboro Cup was a real wonder, considering how much the virus incubated after the Whitney. His raw strength and massive appetite really helped him to quickly recover like a bull .
The Whitney and the Woodward were throw outs because secretariat never really had a break after the triple crown. Anything that happens at Saratoga you can’t take serious. It’s a dog track…..if you get the lead out of the gate and set a reasonable pace at Saratoga you should win. That’s how Saratoga is. It’s always had a speed bias.
@@debbylou5729 Respectfully, you have your races mixed up. Secretariat had the abscess before the Wood Memorial, the race before the Derby. He was indeed sick. Marshall Cassidy, the NYRA track announcer years later, saw that Big Red had diarrhea running down his back legs, so he really shouldn't have run that day. He still almost pulled it off, which in itself is incredible.
@@secretariat224 I worked for Mike Gerard, (the infamous vet) from 1971 to 75. I would walk hots for John Veitch in the early morning. This is when he first went on his own, pre Calumet. Then I would go over to the vet's office. I helped out Tommy Walsh too from time to time. I had been laid off from my regular job. My friend Liz Stein got me those first jobs. She galloped for Tommy Walsh and Bill Resseguet. Some times I would go to Westbury and help exercise Allen Jerkens polo ponies for Murphy Davidson. It was the best of times at Belmont.
I wish we could hear the radio calls of all 3 of Secretariats triple crown races. Someone posted the Belmont and I tried to find the other two but I was unsuccessful.
Yes, I remember Ray Haight doing those calls for CBS Radio. I have portions of them from the Secretariat LP pressed shortly after he retired. A fine variation on Big Red's romps, for sure. Ray passed in 1993 at the age of 67, tragically and suddenly, similarly to Chic Anderson in 1979.
this was supposed to be a match race between stable mates secretariat and riva ridge but then the luster came off it when big red lost the whitney at saratoga to Onion and riva lost an allowance race on grass. Thus they expanded the field to include Cougar II, Kennedy Road, Key to the Mint, Travers Stakes winner Annihilate ’em, and Onion. 2-5 was better than bank interest.
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Quite possibly these greatest assembly of horses for one race in history. And Secretariat takes em down.
I can't say enough how grateful I am you posted this. I actually saw this race on TV as it happened way back then. Agree with Frank Wright that Riva Ridge isn't give the credit he deserves. The he insured this breakneck pace that allowed Secretariat to set the world record here - and then lasted to beat everyone else - is truly remarkable. Penny Tweedy had said it was Riva's 3YO season that saved the farm so she didn't have to sell Secretariat. He's really the unsung hero in the whole Meadow Stable story.
Glad you enjoyed it. Frank was a very astute horseman, and he was spot on about Riva's gritty performance; it was great. Riva was a tough horse, and it's a shame that Penny and Lucien ran him too hard in the second half of '72, or he would have won best 3 year old for sure. Key To The Mint was a fine horse, but Riva was better.
I agree that Riva is sadly overlooked as the savior of the farm. It's a real shame that he isn't given enough credit.
Yes Riva Ridge ran a very strong race. Was not going to let his stable mate make him look bad!
I was there for this race and remember it well. I was there for the Belmont stakes and remember what I could see as a 12 year old pressed up against the rail at the 16th pole. River Ridge was an incredible horse and should have one in the triple Crown. Secretariat was an incredible horse who was capable of having a bad day. But as far as the best day any horse ever had it has to be the day secretariat won the Belmont Stakes. No horse in history could have beaten him that day. He was also going against older horses here. Riva was a great horse. At his best, secretariat was the greatest horse whoever stepped on a track in my opinion.
Eddie Maple on board Riva Ridge later said in an interview that when he looked back and saw that big red head coming on, there was really nothing you could do about it.
Yes, nothing could stop the Big Red freight train from steamrolling by. What a moment that must have been for Eddie, and then the thrill of riding Secretariat in his last race.
@@secretariat224 Yes... Eddie said he was as scared as he was thrilled to have ridden Secretariat in the colt's last race. What if he lost ( he thought)? He told his wife and kids that he may have to leave for an extended amount of time if that were to happen. The big guy won, of course. Overwhelming victory with what looked like steam from a locomotive coming out of his nostrils down the stretch!
I loved Secretariet as a kid...got to speak to Ron Turcott a few months ago. What an amazing team.
In addition to setting a world record, while easing through an extra furlong, Secretariat set a time of 1:57.8 for the mile and a quarter that was later tied by 4 year old Spectacular Bid for the present day record. INCREDIBLE!
In 1973, Meadow Stable's 2nd Best Horse was a Kentucky Derby and Belmont Stakes Winner of the previous year. What a nice problem to have.😁
That was a fantastic display of Secretariat and Riva Ridge at the Marlboro Cup...
RIP Secretariat, Riva Ridge, and the Great Chic Anderson..❤❤❤
Greatest horse ever.
It’s a great to see you guys post again your videos were apart of my childhood. One of the main ways I learned about horse racing when I was a little kid. Great to see you post again.
Thank you for the kind comments, and I'm happy that you find joy in these videos.
And Riva Ridge is phenomenal
Thank you for posting This classic of the greatest racehorse of all time
You're welcome, Mike.
Thank you for posting this gem. What a race and what a field of horses and jockeys !!!
Thanks, Willy! Nice to read your enthusiam and thoughts.
I used to work for the late great track photographer Tibor Abahazy and seeing him in your videos brings back so many memories and watching these gems just takes me back when it was fun at the tracks. Thank you🍻🍺🍺 😎🤙
@@captainamericaamerica8090 those are some great trainers your Gramps worked for all right. I knew Bobby Frankel where I first met him when I worked Hollywood Park he was a great person. I cried when they closed Hollywood Park, it was a one of a kind track.
Thank you, Talis, and thanks for the nice insight. The good ole days are very much missed.
@@captainamericaamerica8090 Great to read, Cap'n.
@@talisfinney984 Unfortunately, the Captain has made some very disparaging comments about Secretariat that he claimed as "fact", but they were only his opinion. I've dealt with that sort of thing for over 15 years now, but I have muted him from the channel for now. I will reinstate him in a few days to see if he refrains from inflammatory comments in the future.
TH-cam automatically hides all comments from muted users, so it was not my intention to remove his original good comments here.
@@secretariat224 thank you for letting me know and that is crazy that he talked bad about Secretariat, he was an unbelievable horse.
Secretariat finally got some well earned rest after running him sick at Saratoga. People have to understand that Penny Chenery was a socialite. Saratoga was for socialites back then, perhaps is still is, but Secretariat should have been resting from his triple crown and Arlington invitational wins, and brought back in the fall. Once given the rest he deserved he came back unbeatable on the turf and the dirt. If he had raced at four….he would have been a beast beyond what anyone could ever imagine. He was amazing. I saw this race when I was ten.
I've thought the same myself, that if Secretariat had raced as a four and five year old, he would have set records that could never be beaten. It's almost too bad he wasn't a gelding.
It is too bad that Big Red didn't race at four... Or maybe not. The weights the track handicappers would have assigned him to carry would have been incredibly high, and possibly dangerous to his soundness. Unlike today's weight-for-age conditions, the track handicappers would assign the horses whatever weights they felt had the potential to achieve the impossible, a full-field dead heat. In 1976, Forego won the Marlboro Cup under 137 pounds. I'm guessing a 4-year-old Secretariat would have been forced to carry 140 or more.
in 1980, Spectacular Bid was dominant, but his trainer made such a stink about the high weights, even ducking races here and there due to the imposts. Mostly because of this sort of trainer practice of pitting one race against another due to weights, the pure handicap race went out of style and they went to a weight-for-age setup with few or even zero modifications.
These days, the 126-pound weights assigned for the Triple Crown races are practically always the heaviest weight a horse will ever have to carry in his career.
Is a pleasure to see COUGAR running whit SECRETARIAT COUGAR is one of the best chilean horse i love it
glad I got to watch this race again -- made me remember just how good Riva Ridge was also -- if not for Secretariat he probably would have won a couple of Horse of the Year titles
Yes, Riva Ridge was very talented. He did a superb job keeping Onion honest from the jump. It took quite a bit out of him, but he showed his mettle. Very proud of him.
Damn (!) as much as I loved my "little brother," I could not beat him to save my life! As Lucien often said, "C'est la vie!" ("That's life"). Cheers to all ;-) P.S. The lovely Penny Chenery was alluding to Riva's fourth place showing (on a very sloppy track) at the Preakness, the previous year (1972). Riva won the Kentucky Derby and the Belmont Stakes in '72 - and a win in the "middle jewel" at Baltimore (of the Triple Crown series) would have given "Meadow Stable" two back-to-back Triple Crown winners (with "Secretariat" taking it in '73). It was not to be, but "Riva Ridge" was a wonderful champion in his own right, and his record proves it.
I couldn't agree more !!!
Thanks for putting this video up... I watched nearly all of Big Red's races on TV, and there are TH-cams of practically all of them, and I have watched them MANY times. But I am unsure if I have EVER found a replay of this Marlboro Cup until now!
It’s great to see you post again!!
I appreciate your kindness.
Thank you for posting this I have been trying to hear the greatChick Anderson call in this race since I saw a snippet in Penny’s movie. His call far exceeds DaveJohnson
Thank you kindly, Walter. It is always a pleasure to hear Chic's interpretation of the action; he was truly great.
Where did you find Penny's movie? Can't find it anywhere.... assuming you're talking about the one her son did.
He just looks different than the other horses.
Thank you for sharing this video again on the most Amazing Beautiful Horse ever 🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤
Thank you for your nice comments, Sarah.
Fantastic you returns!!!!
Thank you. Very nice of you.
This is Great. Thank you for sharing this.
Glad you enjoyed it. You are welcome.
What a horse amazing
I'm surprised no one on the broadcast mentioned the world record.
That's a good point, it was a curious oversight.
Flighline was a super horse but didn't break any world records while Secretariat broke three to four not counting track records. Secretariat was definitely not a super, it was a double super horse and like that I have not seen any...👍👍👍👍
I used to caddy for "jack 🎃 Whitaker"at the famous wykagyl country club in the 1970s - he couldn't have been nicer ! I used to hang out with my friend "Dave Johnson" at the famous "pj Clarke's" bar/restaurant 55th and 3rd ! A great 😃👍😁🎯 guy ! Hope he's doing well !
Thanks for sharing that terrific insight, Paul, you've been blessed. Both are legends, for sure. I'd love to hear Dave Johnson's NYRA public address racecall for the '73 Belmont Stakes somehow. It would be great to have it in the public domain and for racing posterity. I also hope he is doing well.
Thanks for the kind words 🙂☺️! - amazing that it's not in the "public domain" !
I can also "hear in my mind"... Dave Johnson's call of John Henry's last race at the 1984 Ballentine. I loved John Henry. Still do.
145.2 Ridiculously fast!
Secretariat and RR ❤❤
Yes indeed, love them both.
1 45 is insane time
It is, and Big Red looked to have plenty in reserve.
Secretariat 🏇🏇 terbaik 👏👏👏
They were both Great Riva Ridge and Secretariat.
Absolutely.
I kind of feel bad for Riva Ridge watching this race. He was supposedly very sensitive when he lost.
@@rossrubino9080 Yes, Riva gave it his all; he performed like a real champion. He did have a very kind and sensitive disposition from what I've read.
Secretariat proved on this day that the Whitney Stakes was a complete fluke - a mistake by his handlers to run him in that race knowing that he was sick. The Marlboro Cup reflected his true ability.
Yes, Onion was a good horse and he performed well, but Secretariat with his low grade fever and loose bowels should've been enough for Penny and Lucien to scratch him and let the crowd know of his predicament. Unfortunately, they felt pressured by the paying crowd to see Secretariat run, and gave in to it. Sure, the crowd would've felt robbed of the experience, but the horse should always come first.
It's a shame that it happened, and critics just LOVE to discredit Big Red for that loss, without all of the facts, of course.
The Marlboro Cup was a real wonder, considering how much the virus incubated after the Whitney. His raw strength and massive appetite really helped him to quickly recover like a bull .
The Whitney and the Woodward were throw outs because secretariat never really had a break after the triple crown. Anything that happens at Saratoga you can’t take serious. It’s a dog track…..if you get the lead out of the gate and set a reasonable pace at Saratoga you should win. That’s how Saratoga is. It’s always had a speed bias.
He wasn’t sick, he had an abscess in his mouth. He never liked his mouth being touched
This must have been like playing at recess for secretariat
@@debbylou5729 Respectfully, you have your races mixed up. Secretariat had the abscess before the Wood Memorial, the race before the Derby. He was indeed sick. Marshall Cassidy, the NYRA track announcer years later, saw that Big Red had diarrhea running down his back legs, so he really shouldn't have run that day.
He still almost pulled it off, which in itself is incredible.
They don't make horsemen and horses like that any more. Belmont was a wonderful place to work.
I couldn't agree more. What years did you work at Belmont?
@@secretariat224 I worked for Mike Gerard, (the infamous vet) from 1971 to 75. I would walk hots for John Veitch in the early morning. This is when he first went on his own, pre Calumet. Then I would go over to the vet's office. I helped out Tommy Walsh too from time to time. I had been laid off from my regular job. My friend Liz Stein got me those first jobs. She galloped for Tommy Walsh and Bill Resseguet. Some times I would go to Westbury and help exercise Allen Jerkens polo ponies for Murphy Davidson. It was the best of times at Belmont.
This race for TV later had to called The Cup due to no cigarette promotion, track program had Marlboro.🏇🏻🏇🏻🏇🏻🏇🏻🏇🏻
I wish we could hear the radio calls of all 3 of Secretariats triple crown races. Someone posted the Belmont and I tried to find the other two but I was unsuccessful.
Yes, I remember Ray Haight doing those calls for CBS Radio. I have portions of them from the Secretariat LP pressed shortly after he retired. A fine variation on Big Red's romps, for sure. Ray passed in 1993 at the age of 67, tragically and suddenly, similarly to Chic Anderson in 1979.
this was supposed to be a match race between stable mates secretariat and riva ridge but then the luster came off it when big red lost the whitney at saratoga to Onion and riva lost an allowance race on grass. Thus they expanded the field to include Cougar II, Kennedy Road, Key to the Mint, Travers Stakes winner Annihilate ’em, and Onion. 2-5 was better than bank interest.