For everyone saying that I'm mispronouncing Gaelic. I was referring to Scottish Gaelic in the review and not Irish Gaelic the way you're thinking. If you don't believe me, watch this video at 0:20 and you will hear this Scottish woman pronounce it in the exact way I did. Again its at 0:20 th-cam.com/video/CUSGeUYpRiw/w-d-xo.html
Still good stuff Nick! As long as you're doing Michael Crichton based movies, can you do "13th Warrior" next? I know it's loaded with inaccuracies but I've always found it to be a fun movie (as long as you have plenty of beer to drink while watching). Much love from Colorado, USA. I love history and my wonderful degree in it. UCCS '06
Nick Hodges, pleasure to see you again. In the wormhole explanation, this particular part isn't necessarily time travel. Time travel is based on the notion in which we travel to the past, however we are able to choose when and where we are able to go. This wormhole explanation gives them a link to the past but it is a fixed point in time. By removing the ability to choose where your able to go it 'technically' becomes not time travel. But either way, semantics.
if Oliver were truly an English Lord, he'd have been on an estate in England tbh, far more likely he was a French Lord that simply swore fealty to the English King.
I might point out that Scotland was sided with France, against England, during the Hundred Years War. So the guy saying that he's Scottish, to and English lord, would basically be admitting that he's the enemy.
Oh man this review was pure gold! I recently watched this train wreck of a movie and was very tempted to do a review myself, I mean NIGHT ARROWS?!?!?!?!?!?!? WHAT???? But you've done it perfectly and addressed most of the problems I had with it. Love your work Nick!
They were actually, and surprisingly Total War gets them mostly right. They'll set fire to siege weapons, and don't fly as accurately or as far as normal arrows.....however cause it's a video game, you have the choice of abusing them and shooting everything with fire cause its awesome.
I personally think that most people do love total war! I do but I think that people criticise it a lot because they want a thing they like to be better. I must admit its fun at first fire arrows but I think just the novelty wears off for me. Just my thought. But I would love for total war to try and become more realistic. When you start to understand how fighting is done, it becomes more like a movie than actual fighting.
hmm, i think total war is mostly right, even the scaling the walls without ladder in Shogun 2, it just a little sad when you don't have fog of war on cause it no use for ninja scaling ability, but their bomb is pure genius. I mean samurai use all weapons include guns. And ability of whistle arrow etc... all right. Only fire arrow and beast cop are not that accurate in my opinion.
The most agonizing thing about this is that the awesome novel this movie is based on, DID ALL OF THESE POINTS RIGHT! The novel was awesome! If you haven´t yet, read it!
Yes, the book was terrific. Michael Creighton was a master at the techno-thriller. He always did his homework, presenting tales well detailed and well told. Timeline was one of my favorite books.
IIRC the 'time travel' in Timeline was actually them moving between the infinite parallel universes that exist at different points along the timeline, all progressing along at the same rate from the same past towards the same future, but just at slightly different points in time.
If Michael Creighton put as much work into learning history for this book as he did biology, archaeology, and genetics for Jurassic Park; I bet the book is a lot more historically accurate and hopefully we'll get a good version of the film someday.
As a kid, I liked Timeline. As an adult pursuing a Masters in History, I think this movie is about as faithful to history and as sensible to reality as A Kid in King Arthur's Court.
@@Godzillakingofkaiju1 For sure. I enjoyed the book quite a bit, and if there's anything Michael Crichton did well, it was researching and making things at least SOUND plausible. I remember going to see this movie and just being so wildly disappointed. Within the first 5-10 minutes it was clear how bad it was going to be, and I just remember muttering to myself in the theater, "Oh... oh, noooo..."
The real tragedy of this movie is that the book is actually very well researched, as you'd expect from Crichton. This is World War Z levels of shitting on the source material.
Yeah i read the book before I ever knew they were making a movie. I was so excited to see Timeline. I was expecting to see a movie on par with Jurassic Park. Boy was I let down.
+Keith Ode You mean the Jurassic Park which featured dinosaurs that look like lizards when they should look more like birds not to mention including species that are completely different to the real ones they are based on or worse point blank never freaking existed. Yeah total win for evolutionary and historical accuracy that movie was not.
Yeah, where's your citations and evidence for your assertions? Jurassic Park was based on the best paleontologists' knowledge at the time, nearly 30 years ago. The main issue concerning Crichton's books being made into movies in this context is that before Timeline, the movies were pretty close to the books or got the same message across. Not true with Timeline, which is what we're talking about here.
+Keith Ode But there is the irony of it really when the book is right the filmmakers go off and make up a bunch of their own BS and get it all completely wrong (Timeline), but they didn't update anything with Jurassic Park even though we had better information to go on by that point. In short never trust Hollywood to do History or Science right.
Hahahaha! I can imagine, for someone's resume: I directed a movie so bad, the author of the novel decided he won't allow any more adaptations of his other books
I love your reviews and criticisms. I had a laugh at 6:18 when hearing about having a Holy Roman Empire device of a yellow shield with a black eagle carried by an English knight. I had a later needle scratch moment at 11:58 when shown a pavilion with the same Holy Roman Empire black eagle on yellow shield device in period art while talking about the French and English in the Hundred Years War.
You missed the reference to Macbeth, a play that wasn't even written until 1606 ( The part where Lord Oliver says "You've come to kill us all in our beds" after the guy says they are Scottish)
Chris Filby Wasn't that a reference to the 1692 "incident" where some dastardly Macdonalds were killed in their sleep by the Campbells, even though it was clearly self defence and my surname has nothing to do with my perspective...
Some of the things in the book that the movie really missed on mentioning or explaining or just caged out right: 1. The ITC corporation stated that time travel was impossible and instead the machine they built proved quatom foam theory and multiverse theory was real. Long explination shorted, they could go to another universe and depending on how close that universe was close to ours it could potentially affect our timeline. (Ie Marek choosing to stay in the other universe, and they found his grave in theirs) 2. Before the start of the archeologists journey, previous ITC teams traveling to the past were allowed to carry modern day weapons. And the marine who brought the grenade also brought a Beretta 9mm with him as well. 3. The character Marek was from the Netherlands and told everyone he was Dutch in the 1300s 4. Pro. Johnston and Chris were not related. Chris' parents died in a car crash his freshman year and Johnston essentially "adopted" him. The professor took him in and they have a father/son relationship
Nah im swedish and i understand a few words too. Fun fact, thanks to the viking invasion of britain allot of norse words carried over to the english language in the area danelaw. answer for instance comes from the scandinavian/swedish word "ansvar" which means "to answer for something". Due to the reason that norse has developed slowly we can still understand allot of norse and therefore allot of the old english. the scandinavian languages has pretty much only developed by stealing other words from other laguages (English, french, german) but the norse core of the swedish language remains similar. sure some words have disapeared in time but most only have small differentiations from their old versions. A few modern english words that have been stolen: t-shirt, te (tea), access, pub, after-work (drinking with coworkers after work), abstrakt (abstract), airbag, approach, all inclusive, bag, bestseller, bodybuilding, brainstorm, cheerleader, coach, comeback, concealer, container, design, e-mail, fair play, feed (instagram and such). All this and waaaaay more words, then we're not even talking about the french words. i could go on for ages.
@@augustkrummel5695 "Answer" comes from a general Germanic verb, "andaswarjaną", which appeared in Old English as "andswarian" (and as "ondswera" in its continental cousin, Frisian, which didn't have such a heavy Norse influence). There's no reason to assume it was borrowed from Old Norse.
I just had the realization...if the wormhole is set to a fixed point, how did they arrive after the professor? Shouldn't they have arrived at exactly the same time and place as the professor?
@@Jebu911 I don't remember the movie that well, but the book explained it. In the book, you weren't really going back in time, but to a parallel universe that is developing as ours did, just however many years behind. So long as you went to the same universe, it would work like you say.
@@gr81dispAs I remember it from my reading 15 years ago, it was time travel. Quantum foam makes me roam but also that dude that stayed back had a tomb in present times
@@juniorsanchez7441 it wasn't time travel, but it had the same net effect. The reason he had a tomb was because another universe had sent their version to our universe hundreds of years ago.
A few other tidbits: - bare-headed characters: in the XIV-XVth centuries, people very rarely went about without covering their head. Most people wore at least a cap made of linen or other cloth, cut to fit tightly around the head. Above that, all manners of hats or hoods could be worn, and were worn permanently while in public (even in the public baths, as shown in a lot of illustrations). In some cities, edicts forbid some categories of citizens from wearing headgear, or forced a specific type of headgear. This was often the case for prostitutes and Jews (many royal edicts have segregated them). A bareheaded woman would most probably be a prostitute, a noblewoman like lady Catherine would NEVER let her hair hang down in public. - dull colored garb: most movies have people, whatever their social level, wear dull colored garb. This is wrong. Dyeing was a flourishing industry and craft in those days. Everyone could not afford the fancy dyes that gave bright reds or vibrant blues, but a hoard of tinctorial plants was available from almost everyone's backyard or nearby fields and woods, and these were very frequently used, except for underwear. And if it is true that washing one's clothes was not a weekly chore, the infrequent laundering was also an opportunity to refresh the colors of one's garb.
It never cease to amaze me how, in this kind of movie or show, an archaeologist is THE expert to everything historical. They dig a little bit through rubble and/or earth, find some small thing - and immediately know everything there is to know about it: the timeperiod and culture it's from, where it's made, from which materials it's made and so on... But that's not how it's done! At an excavation like this you'll need a lot of specialists. You'll need someone who can analyse the material (probably a chemist). If there's anything organic you'll need someone to analyse this too. Based on this, you can make a guess about the age of the thing you found. But most of all you'll need a historian (or at least the skillset of a historian) to give your found the much needed context. As much as archaeologists (even the real ones) think, they don't need a historian, without historical context they're just guessing. This sentiment goes both ways. The work of a historian often relies on interpretation of old scripts and you'll never know if the writer lied, was drunk, telling the truth etc. With archaeological evidence you can prove or disprove the old texts. As a historian myself this is what truly angers me about this movie (and others like it). And a few other things you didn't mentioned, like untypical behaviour of people in the past. They don't think like we do. They live within a different framework of belief, manners, gender roles etc. They have a strict code how you have to behave based on your social status, what is appropriate and what is not... This is a thing most history movies ignore in favour of getting the audience to identify themselfs with den historical persons. I think this is wrong and especially movies about time travel miss out on a lot of possible conflicts.
Ilogunde history is literally the written chronicles of a given period. So if there are no written records a historian is useless to an archaeologist. And yes, archaeologists xcan and DO pick something up from the dig and expound on its method of manufacture, period and so on. That is what they trainfor. Do you think they dig randomly? A bronze age greek archaeologist doesnt randomly dig up a scottish iron age fort. They are working IN THEIR FIELD OF EXPERTISE. So yes goddamned derr they can tell you a shit tonne about the society etc from one piece of evidence.
I appreciate the time you spent going over diseases from different times and the dangers they represent. I am working on my own time travel series, and I will make sure to incorporate that. Many thanks!
Regardless of how inaccurate that movie is - there are two lines of text saving it for me: Paraphrasing, obviously: Father: "You never liked archeology. You even didn't even like easter egg hunt as a child." Son (annoyed): "Yes Dad - because you buried the eggs."
Jenny beaven: "we base everything... on a historical truth... but adapted for film" randall wallace: "i didn't want to capture the historical brave heart, but a spirit or a feeling" translation: we have no fucking idea what all this is but it looks good enough.
Yep and, by extension, we can't be fucked taking the time and effort to be respectful to the source material and the history it's based on and do decent research. Mainly because there's not profit in it for us.
"Where in an infantry formation does someone hold a standard?" "That's a cavalry standard." "Your services are no longer required. _Have someone in the third row hold it!_ "
7:00 "...they always dismounted first before firing." One of my pet peeves is the use of the verb To Fire when talking about bows and arrows. The idea of "Firing" a missile only arose after the adoption of gunpowder - for fairly obvious reasons. In 1357 one "Shot" or "Loosed" arrows.
Well, tbh GoT jumped the shark for me a few seasons ago. It doesn't even seem the same show to me anymore. Seems like they don't put the effort they once did.
They don't say "fire" in Game of Thrones. In all instances I can remember they clearly say "Nock. Draw. Loose." And I don't know what version of The Battle of the Bastards you saw, but there are no fire arrows at all.
They do have fire arrows in the show, at least, but they're used to light boats full of fuel, which seems a reasonable application (Lord Tully's funeral and the battle on the Blackwater come to mind). I have a hard time swallowing some of their long-range bow accuracy, though.
I was assuming he still meant The Battle of the Bastards regarding the fire arrows, but I see that I might have misinterpreted. Yes, and besides igniting the wildifre they also used fire arrows on Stannis' forces after they landed. Maybe to try and ignite the landing boats? Or just because it looked cool. They still say "nock-draw-loose." in that battle, however.
I read the book a long time ago, but I remember that the issue of language was a major thing in the plot. The son of the professor was the only one that couldn't speak back (only understand with his earphones) and got separated from the group, so he had to manage alone without a way to communicate properly.
What's sad is that the book the movie is based on gets the History mostly correct. In the book, the characters do speak Occitan and old English. The present day characters have a chip installed in their ear that translates the language for them. The book is actually really good, especially for the historical content. As for the movie...I stopped watching about 20 minutes in. Too much nonsense.
I just re-read the book and haven’t seen the movie. It is wild to see how badly they adapted it because every criticism leveled against the film in this video is specifically addressed in the book. Jeez
To be fair though, ever since Dark any time travel story just falls extremely short and seems childish by comparison hahaha, maybe just primer, which has the logic and complexity but isn't remotely as incredible
@7:29 "Why did that guy only bring a grenade?" Because it was the Holy Hand Grenade! Long live Monty Python! Did History Buffs ever look at that movie?
Yeah, language changes so fast, even when watching old documentaires about hindenburg crash or old ww2 footage, the narrator speaks in a total different way.
A lot of those old movies and announcers spoke with an affected accent called Mid Atlantic, sort of a mish mash of New England/BBC English. No one spoke it in real life, it was literally learned for movies and the news, etc. Weird. It fell out of favor when more realistic voices in films became popular.
OGSpaceCadet: Have you ever seen the bloopers from movies made in the 20s? They're hilarious. The second the actor screws up, they immediately revert to speaking normally and drop the put-on accent on the spot.
Whenever I watch a period piece I always look at the shoes. Because I was a Shakespearean stage-fighter for 25 years, I always wonder, "Yeah, but can they fight in them?" They virtually always get it wrong.
@@pvthitch Medieval shoes are pretty good on medieval surfaces; particularly dry grass, packed dirt, or untreated wood. They're OK, if uncomfortable, on cobblestones. Wet grass and muck, not so much. Trying to wear them on modern surfaces like polished linoleum is not a good idea.
Could you do a video on Flags of our Fathers and Letters From Iwo Jima? These two movies are about the Battle of Iwo Jima. Flags of our Fathers coming from the standpoint of the flag raisers on Iwo Jima. And Letters of Iwo Jima coming from the standpoint of a Japanese soldier. In my opinion, these two movies are great depictions of the Battle of Iwo Jima on both sides of the battle.
I been thinking he would have done Letter from Iwo Jima by now. It's been a year since I seen this and it still hasn't happened. You think he jump at the chance to cover a ww2 movie made by americans completely about Japanese soldiers and only their side of the battle. I feel like that's to unique to pass up. It's the perfect movie for this channels content.
There's another time-traveling sci-fi novel called Doomsday Book by Connie Willis. It's about a girl who travels back to early 14th century England, but ends up in 1348, smack down in the middle of the Black Plague, and scientists back in the 21st century are struggling to bring her back. It's really brilliant, moving, sad and interesting read - definitely check it out!
TO: Nomoredrama2000 RE: "There's another time-traveling sci-fi novel called Doomsday Book by Connie Willis." I've read that book, but I couldn't finish it and that's extremely unusual for me. And I generally love time-travel stories. By the way, I have read and enjoyed Michael Crichton's novel Timeline.
I would agree with you on that one. If I remember rightly the “modern era” is in the middle of a ‘flu pandemic at the time to counter point the Black Death aspect. I felt it was well done but not really action adventure stuff. I particularly liked some of the time travel details such as the chest they send her back with being based on one found in a local dig which turns out to be the one they sent her back with
Yes! Doomsday Book is an amazing novel, full of details that seem pretty accurate when compared to my historical reading. It manages to depict heartbreaking tragedy, tense suspense and drily witty absurdist humor in perfect balance. The near-future epidemic feels pretty relevant right now, of course, not to mention the historical plague. I’ve read it several times, highly recommend. I wouldn’t mind seeing it adapted as a well done film.
That grenade is an M7290. That's a stun grenade. It makes a big flash and blinds you. It has minimal explosive capacity and certainly wouldn't damage that room beyond a scorch mark. You're correct that lord Oliver would speak French, but he'd likely speak English too. That said, his primary language was probably the former. One prominent 1400 century nobleman is quoted is saying that a man who can't speak French can't be respected. On the kiss: HOLY SHIT WOULD THE SOCIETY NOT BE DOWN WITH THAT. A public kiss between a married couple was cause to gasp, let alone an unmarried lady kissing a commoner in public. Whore! Harlot! Upstart! Arrogant peasant! Hang the man and semd her to a nunnery! The trebuchets: there is no fucking reason the trebuchet payload should be on fire. You're not trying to burn down the inside (you wouldn't want to anyway, you want the castle for yourself). You're trying to destroy a section of the wall. And furthermore, setting fire to the payload is dangerous to yourself. That trebuchet is WOOD. Same with those fire arrows.
About the grenade thing: in the book it was a normal grenade, and the whole movie just doesn’t matter because it’s stupid and a waste, so you shouldn’t care about the grenade
in the book he used a frag grenade, I forget all the plot details about the time machine , but the glass you see shattering in the movie was super important.
@@zoehsieh50 also in the book they took into mind how about the language barrier they had translators if I remember straight in their ears and had to get an understanding of Old English and French just to be able to deal with the language barrier I don't know if I remember dad directly you make correct me but in the movie they screwed that up by bringing the translator who was pretty much all but useless and stupidly got himself killed getting them all named spies! What a pointless character among many of the stupid things they did in that movie text reshma I can understand changing certain things but seriously even though they were only focusing on one part of the book and making it the main story! Well that's about right looking at Total Recall the Arnie version
I finished reading the book about 2 weeks ago. It's almost impressive how poorly they turned it into a movie. (in a way that is good, as the book has far more interesting scenes that weren't included in the movie. So after watching the movie you can still read the book and run into almost only new things)
OK, as a Cold War historian, I know enough European history to see many of the same flaws you did. However, after warching this pile of trash movie, I realized that there might have been an easy way for these timetravelers to get to their objective: put on the symbol and demeanor of pilgrims. Wearing, for example, the scallop shell of pilgrims heading to San Juan Compostella, the whole group would be considered inviolate and could gain sanctuary in any monastery.
I think you over-estimate their religious fervour. During the time-period some churches ran brothels, some Bishops owned armies, some knights and kings broke sanctuary laws and killed people in churches anyway. Rare, yes, but not uncommon. Besides that people were constantly being excommunicated and didn't give a darn about it. In Italy there were wars against the Pope by other Catholics (Who were excommunicated, but then pardoned after they won). They were more pragmatic than you think. Personally I see no reason why they shouldn't disguise themselves as pilgrims. Even though other spies might do the same it gives them a better reason to be there than "Oh we just happened to be walking through". One problem I could see though is suspicion arising when they don't continue towards Spain the next day, and decide to wait around at a battlefield. Very un-pilgrim-like.
agree the 100 yrs war was a brawl with factions in it just for loot peasents revolting and murdering anyone they met the so called nobles brutal and avaricious france was like one big pirate raid noone was safe
algi - It's rather what happened during the Tokugawa Era as well. Spies dressed as Buddhist Zen priests would move about the countryside and report back to their masters. One of the ways that this was gotten around was the fact that shakuhachi they played had a few songs that were nearly impossible to play. Only the actual priests who had studied for years could play it.
I only recently discovered your channel thanks to Elizabeth: The Golden Age. I have been devouring the content. I saw this title pop up in recommendations and my immediate reaction was "oh no. ohhhh dear. oh no nono"
Pretty close actually, although some of the events are still open to speculation because the few witnesses to the events give contradictory stories (for rather obvious reasons, many of the living witnesses took years to come forward if ever, by which time their memories faded somewhat as to specific details). But it is quite authentic in the sense that the sets, costumes, and characterizations are pretty spot on, even down to the accents and idiolects.
I think he's correcting "Time Travel" to "Wormhole" to say something like "hold your horses, it's not selective time travel, it's only to a specific point". (first time hearing about wormholes crossing time, mind you)
I live in Vancouver where they filmed it and recently ran into the actor who played the nerdy glasses wearing tech guy in every episode. *sigh* Those TV watching days during high school...
It's not just the draw weight, a medieval English archer wouldn't sit on a horse to shoot a bow because it's not a balanced position. You want to stand firmly planted to the ground to provide a strong Base otherwise the arrow will lack strength and accuracy
Sorry mate, i think with practice you can shoot a long bow from the saddle. My problem is that they are hard to use near overhanging limbs. I discovered that in my backyard.
Apparently not if you're Mongolian. Or Chinese...or Japanese...or Ottoman Turks...or, well, almost every civilisation that has existed before the invention of the longbow. But the longbow was not the only bow we used. We also used crossbows and shortbows (hunting bows) as every army has it's long and short-range weapons.
Disappointing about the costumes. It's not like she's a terrible designer, she did Sense and Sensibility, Defiance, Alexander, Sherlock Holmes, The King's Speech and Mad Max: Fury Road (not a historical film, but it looked friggin' awesome).
She did actually. But that's no excuse. She had dozens of historical re-enactors pointing out every flaw in her costume design to her, albeit too late for her to do anything about it.
+Andre it's not always that easy, sometimes it's out of their hands. It's like always blaming devs for video game issues, it's usually the publisher constraining their time, focus, etc
How about you try the show Narcos on Netflix. It's a show about Pablo Escobar's rise and fall and how the American DEA eventually caught him and basically tells us about the entirety of the 70s and 80s drug trafficking problems after the Nixon Era. Would be interesting to see if you are interested in such a show as you haven't yet covered this specific part of history and the history of this form of crime except for your goodfellas video. However, this is just a suggestion. Hope you look through this show and review its historical accuracies and inaccuracies. Thanks! Greetings from an Asian! :)
Time Travel nerd here. The reason why it's not technically time travel is because as the guy says, it's locked at a single time and, important to note, place. Regular time travel infers actually going backward or forward in time. Time progresses or regresses in these instances with an actual "distance" being traversed. Because of the wormhole being locked in a single location, it's more of a doorway. You walk into it and come out the other side thus eliminating the "distance" that the word "travel" would require. Your use of Stargate clip is more accurate than you probably thought since it works in a similar manner. Of course, the movie still gets it wrong because the wormhole being "locked" implies that they would instantly show up at the exact moment the professor gets there and when they bring him back they'd probably notice themselves going to that moment. So the movie accidentally creates a paradox that would have it that the professor would never be able to write a notice of help, leading them to never have the incentive to investigate. It simply wouldn't happen or they'd be stuck in a time loop that borders on being a living hell. For the show to make it actually work, it would mean that there would be no fixed "time". Only the wormhole would be locked and theoretically, a few centuries from now taking the wormhole would lead to today at the time of me writing this. To put it simply. It is time travel, that defies all known theories because they explained it in a shit way.
I think the bigger problem is that they find the professor's distress call and bifocal. Shouldn't that be in a different, parallel universe? How did it end up in the past of our own universe if they're not actually technically going back in time? Same for the grave at the end. This isn't just a problem of the movie, either, since the same issue is present in the book. He worked so hard to make the time travel scientifically feasible, but then introduced a huge inconsistency to serve the plot.
That One Oldtaku I don't think it goes against any assumptions made about 'time travel'. it is just poorly explained. the wormhole as an offset in location and time. this is kinda like in the movie deja Vu.
Maybe it works like transporting you back in a specific number of years, but trying to explain it to a bunch of history students would be a pain so they simplify it, hell the "history buff" doesn't get it, they 'd have half an hour explaining to them how it works for no reason.
The thing I remember about this movie is how they "bum rushed" that group of archaeologist into going into the past. It was like, You gotta go now!" and it seemed that most of them didn't want to go. They were ultimately goaded into it.
Had to pause the vid just to say I introduced my wife to StarGate and we're watching all of it together, including atlantis, universe and the movies. We're on the last 2 episodes of season 10.....Damn I love that show!
Uhm, sounds like he calls out "light arrows", as in "set fire to the arrows" and then fires ordinary arrows to catch out any French that might be waiting on fire arrows but get hit by the unobserved ordinary arrows. So the scene in fact is somewhat clever.
Having listened to it again, I must admit you are right. I guess on first hearing my ears just gave that line the benefit of the doubt where it was not deserved. Hot damn that is stupid!
just some nitpicking; the point about time travel, the guy meant that they stumbled upon a wormhole, maybe of natural origin, not that they invented time travel to make use at will.
The french did use longbows though not in the same quantity as the English. Hovewer from a visual standpoint its a bad idea in the movie, as Nick says its arguably the most iconic "english" weapon in the war (possibly ever).
Most seem to think that the warbow was somehow unique to England, and by that I mean that most people seem to think that the English/Welsh had an inclusive 'right' to the design of large bows meant for war.
ChipMHazard Exactly. Its not the weapon itself but rather how it was used that seperated english armies from their counterparts during the HYW. Also of course too much focus is put on the bow rather than the archer but that is a discussion for another time..
Plus "short bow" is something from AD&D. And you can shoot longbow from horseback , but only really to your bowhand side. And push-pull drawing in the bow is a bit difficult on the saddle , so it needs to be a bit lighter draw weight than infantry bow usually.
by the middle of Hundred Years War the English were importing most of their bows due to yew shortage. So other nations certainly made longbows , and archery was not an absurdly rare skill. If they had the bows in a siege they would use them. That said there is a reason why the English and Welsh are synonymous with the longbow, they are only ones that recruited and trained mass numbers of professional archers. You really had to dedicate your infrastructure and resources to maintain such a force. Other kingdoms found that crossbows were way more cost effective to produce and train and were arguably more effective, especially in a siege. So while I wouldn't say the French didnt use longbows, they probably wouldnt in the movie's context in any case.
Yep, everyone used longbows to some extent, and the English also used crossbows. Hell, just look at the paintings of the Hundred Years' War, they show longbow vs. longbow prominently. The big thing the English did compared to other cultures was fielding comparatively huge numbers of longbows, which they could do because of their deep social and cultural attachment to every able man training with them, so instead of a rare specialist weapon, it became a standard equipment.
One thing time travel stories ALWAYS forget about is that, the Earth itself is moving in an orbit, so you ALSO have to have precise GPS coordinates, otherwise, you’d be time traveling right into the vacuum of space. Endgame addresses this VERY briefly, but it’s so vague I’m not sure it counts.
Hacksaw ridge really stripped down his service to one major battle. Most of what he did in the movie happened, just not all at once. Doss was a great man and I loved hearing about his story. I saw a pseudo documentary about him before the movie was even announced.
I gave up on the movie after watching the scene were a GI grabs a corpse off the ground and starts using it as a meatshield. He literally runs forward with 150lbs of dead person in his left hand and 25lbs of BAR in his right and still manages in kill 5 Japanese soldiers with one hip fire burst. What a joke! Plus the CGI was trash and the romantic plot was more generic than most movies from the actual 1940's.
I remember when this movie first came out, I was so excited! I loved the book (read it 3 times by the time I was 13) and wanted to see it realized in the cinema. I was sorely disappointed. The book was a study on the quantum theories that included the multiverse theory. The movie dumbed down the science that was in the book that Crichton already put into relative (very relative) layman's terms, and it also destroyed all of the historical research (to include languages Crichton had done to get that time right. I was so bummed out! If you haven't seen the movie, don't. It really isn't worth your time, but the book is absolutely incredible!
I did not read the book, but my overall impression was that the movie started and ended way too quickly, with the entire quantum-wormhole thing just being a contrived plot-devise so we can have a fish-out-of-water story of modern people in medeval times. If I hadn't just checked up and read that it's actually almost 2 hours long I would have been convinced it was only about 80 minutes of rushed mess.
the only time travel media I've ever seen address the whole illness thing at least in some part is Outlander by Diana Galbadon. Since the protagonist, Claire, is from the 1940s, she is immune to many historic diseases due to her ancestors having (obviously) survived most of those diseases. And as a nurse and later a surgeon she uses her knowledge to keep her husband and patients from growing too ill, even making her own version of penicillin for extreme cases.
Thank you for promoting the novel. I've always loved this book and was super excited to see the movie. But it was a letdown. Crichton was brilliant at looking at little details and it was a shame they couldn't transfer the "science" to the film.
The thing about language was *the biggest thing* that bugged me- though there were many, many, many others... I found a clip a couple of months back, asking the qs. 'How far could you go back in time, & still understand English'? This would be equally valid for most any modern language, like French or Scots; I haven't read the book, so I wasn't sure how it had been addressed, thank you for letting me know the writer wasn't some hack, who didn't think of such a sticking point - obviously, I would hope the dude who wrote *Jurassic Park* would not be. If I was him, I would have been mortified by what was done to my work; seriously, it doesn't kill producers, researchers, scriptwriters, designers & directors to give an extra few minutes to things that make no sense otherwise- I mean, what were they thinking!
Try William Shakspear (or the different spellings of the name) Try reading Chauser in the original. English that one could really understand came after the age of Liz 1
With some difficulty, you may be able to understand Early Modern English, basically the time period Shakespeare's plays and the King James version of the Bible were written. (Mid 16th to early 17th century). Pronunciation would be the biggest obstacle, because vowels have shifted considerably since then, as has vocabulary, but with some effort you'd probably mostly be able to understand them, but making yourself understood in return speaking modern English would be a lot more difficult. But they'd probably get the gist of it.
Their assignment was to posit how historical figures might view modern day San Dimas. So in essence, it wasn't so much a history project as it was a historical science fiction project.
That likely was more real they couldn't talk to most of the historical figures and in this movie it would be an issue especially an educated woman would likely be seen as a witch unless a religious sister who teaches.
@@clerickolter Utter tosh. There were plenty of educated Medieval woman. Europe's first professional female author, Christine de Pizan lived in France in the early 1400s. She was not a nun, and her books were bestsellers of the time.
Rufus is the pilot in Timeless because he is the only one left who can pilot the ship, a lazy excuse to create dramatic tension, sure... but one explained in the plot. Now, that brings up questions of why, if you have a time machine, you cannot take all the time you want to train someone new and why changes to the past aren't instantaneously felt in the present is another question, but that is a common logical problem with the entire genre. PS, I love your show in general, just wanted to point that out.
Okay, so the big question: is there any Time Travel Movie that got its history RIGHT (assuming they go back more than a few decades)? If not, which one came the closest?
Back to the Future Part 2. They predicted many things that we we would use, sure there are no flying cars but they did predict the cubs would win the World Series. 😉 I'm not American but I'm guessing that's baseball or something.
@@NewNicator Interestingly enough they were only one year off with the prediction of the Cubs winning (they won in 2016 not 2015). Though they were wrong about what team they would beat: movie predicted an unnamed Miami team with an alligator as its logo; the Cubs would instead defeat the Cleveland Indians.
Definitely a grade A historical film, I mean, realizing that the Holy Roman Empire secretly invaded France under the guise of an English army? Impressive. Knowing that languages can't change overtime? Even more amazing. Timeline is a definitely historically accurate film. (read with extra sarcasm for full effect.)
I would pay money for that! I love that movie and though it is a great movie I don't think it's historically accurate and would love to see it picked at by our good friends at history buffs!
16:22 Greek Fire was almost the same as napalm, which was invented during WWII. The components are well known, therefore Professor Johnston would know how to make it if he paid very close attention in Organic Chemistry. But every other complaint you have is right on target. How amusing that I still enjoy watching this train wreck of a movie. As a biologist, I too had many dark thoughts on the people from the past and the people from the future passing viruses and bacteria to each other.
Hey could you do Gangs of New York? I just watched it for the first time the other day and thoroughly enjoyed it, though I did realize that the New York draft riots were something of a hole in my historical education and I would love to learn more
Hmm, I think for the greek fire, the exact formula is lost, but it doesn't mean the concept is lost. There are enough theories as to why the chemical fire will not be extinguished by water that he can probably make a greek fire imitator. Somewhat like, if heron of alexandria's design of steam engine is lost, we still can invent a steam engine because the theory is there.
Glad Francois was really helpful for translating before he was stabbed in the first ten minutes of arriving to the past. I don’t even think he actually got to translate anything.
Yeah… I haven’t even watched it and I feel bad for the poor guy! No reason to be there, no reason to die! It’s like they wrote him in and only realized later he was useless and shelved him! lol
agreed on doing them as a set, Letters in particular is the kind of war movie you do not see often. Most war films tend to focus on the winners or at least use their perspective, in Letters we see an exclusively Japanese POV on events.
Omg, that would be amazing! And I agree with you, Enclave Officer, both those movies run parallel to each other and Nick could cover a lot of ground by doing them in one shot.
I loved this book! I was so excited that there was going to a movie, but it was just felt like such a letdown after I walked out of the theater. They didn't even get the science right!
Its pretty lazy they could have just had some throwaway lines for setup for the translators and still speak regular english there for audiences sake. Alltho that obviously wasnt the only mistake but that one was really easy to fix.
I love the Book and was so excited ehen they announced the Movie. And then this crap. The Book made many things right. I am still hoping for a Netflix series of the Boom
i love that movie for showing ww2 from axis point of view. there are too few movies that do that. but i guess it makes sense since germans made the movie, i dont expect germans to make a ww2 movie from for example American perspective
On the wormhole issue. It could be significant for a few reasons. One is that it establishes they didn't build it. The wormhole is a naturally occurring structure of the universe that they discovered. While much of the science and certainly history of the movie is problematic, I do like that they point out that wormholes connect two points in spacetime, which means that unlike their use in much of science fiction, they would allow for some time of 'time travel' more often than not, rather than just being a handy way to travel. Love your videos!
For everyone saying that I'm mispronouncing Gaelic. I was referring to Scottish Gaelic in the review and not Irish Gaelic the way you're thinking. If you don't believe me, watch this video at 0:20 and you will hear this Scottish woman pronounce it in the exact way I did.
Again its at 0:20
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Still good stuff Nick! As long as you're doing Michael Crichton based movies, can you do "13th Warrior" next? I know it's loaded with inaccuracies but I've always found it to be a fun movie (as long as you have plenty of beer to drink while watching).
Much love from Colorado, USA. I love history and my wonderful degree in it. UCCS '06
History Buffs hey I am a big fan! I would love to see you review the movie "A Bridge Too Far." It is a long movie, but it is amazing!
Nick Hodges, pleasure to see you again.
In the wormhole explanation, this particular part isn't necessarily time travel. Time travel is based on the notion in which we travel to the past, however we are able to choose when and where we are able to go. This wormhole explanation gives them a link to the past but it is a fixed point in time. By removing the ability to choose where your able to go it 'technically' becomes not time travel. But either way, semantics.
Please do Rabbit proof fence, i find it to be a very dark moment in Australia history with the stolen generation and ll that.
if Oliver were truly an English Lord, he'd have been on an estate in England tbh, far more likely he was a French Lord that simply swore fealty to the English King.
"Hot or not, its bubonic plague."
Thats a quote im going to keep in mind.
lol
l o l -time traveller from 2020
"Hot or not, it's Bubonic Plague."
- A medieval plague doctor warning a nobleman about making out with his wife, probably
"you speak strangely"
"Gday mate, we're from down under"
LOL
Hahahahahahaha
"That's a lovely accent u have there. New Jersey?"
Funny, but that would have no meaning to them, considering no Europeans would set foot on Australia until 1606.
just putting another historically inaccurate movie on the barbie 😅
I might point out that Scotland was sided with France, against England, during the Hundred Years War. So the guy saying that he's Scottish, to and English lord, would basically be admitting that he's the enemy.
Auld alliance no doubt Oliver woulda probably hacked Marek and all them to pieces for saying that shit
Public execution!
He could have said that they were on a pilgrimage to Rome. That would have had some crediblity.
Is that not what Nick just said in this very video?
Lord Oliver actaully mentions he is enemies with the Scottish as well.
Oh man this review was pure gold! I recently watched this train wreck of a movie and was very tempted to do a review myself, I mean NIGHT ARROWS?!?!?!?!?!?!? WHAT???? But you've done it perfectly and addressed most of the problems I had with it. Love your work Nick!
We all know that every medieval plebeian wore grey and only grey and churches were sooo bland.... its not like everyone was FUCKING CATHLIC.
Yeah. The book was so good though. Most of the things wrong with the movies are what they changed from the book. as usual.
They were actually, and surprisingly Total War gets them mostly right. They'll set fire to siege weapons, and don't fly as accurately or as far as normal arrows.....however cause it's a video game, you have the choice of abusing them and shooting everything with fire cause its awesome.
I personally think that most people do love total war! I do but I think that people criticise it a lot because they want a thing they like to be better. I must admit its fun at first fire arrows but I think just the novelty wears off for me. Just my thought. But I would love for total war to try and become more realistic. When you start to understand how fighting is done, it becomes more like a movie than actual fighting.
hmm, i think total war is mostly right, even the scaling the walls without ladder in Shogun 2, it just a little sad when you don't have fog of war on cause it no use for ninja scaling ability, but their bomb is pure genius.
I mean samurai use all weapons include guns. And ability of whistle arrow etc... all right. Only fire arrow and beast cop are not that accurate in my opinion.
The most agonizing thing about this is that the awesome novel this movie is based on, DID ALL OF THESE POINTS RIGHT!
The novel was awesome! If you haven´t yet, read it!
benjamin lammertz Prey is one of my favorite books ever so I'm taking this recommendation very seriously.
Yes, the book was terrific. Michael Creighton was a master at the techno-thriller. He always did his homework, presenting tales well detailed and well told. Timeline was one of my favorite books.
IIRC the 'time travel' in Timeline was actually them moving between the infinite parallel universes that exist at different points along the timeline, all progressing along at the same rate from the same past towards the same future, but just at slightly different points in time.
@@atomic_wait yeah thats one of the few ways to make a time travel story kinda "scientific"
If Michael Creighton put as much work into learning history for this book as he did biology, archaeology, and genetics for Jurassic Park; I bet the book is a lot more historically accurate and hopefully we'll get a good version of the film someday.
As a kid, I liked Timeline. As an adult pursuing a Masters in History, I think this movie is about as faithful to history and as sensible to reality as A Kid in King Arthur's Court.
Wasn't it Bede who wrote about a kid using a CD player during a banquet?
The book was better researched.
@@Godzillakingofkaiju1 For sure. I enjoyed the book quite a bit, and if there's anything Michael Crichton did well, it was researching and making things at least SOUND plausible. I remember going to see this movie and just being so wildly disappointed. Within the first 5-10 minutes it was clear how bad it was going to be, and I just remember muttering to myself in the theater, "Oh... oh, noooo..."
The real tragedy of this movie is that the book is actually very well researched, as you'd expect from Crichton. This is World War Z levels of shitting on the source material.
Yeah i read the book before I ever knew they were making a movie. I was so excited to see Timeline. I was expecting to see a movie on par with Jurassic Park. Boy was I let down.
+Keith Ode You mean the Jurassic Park which featured dinosaurs that look like lizards when they should look more like birds not to mention including species that are completely different to the real ones they are based on or worse point blank never freaking existed. Yeah total win for evolutionary and historical accuracy that movie was not.
Yeah, where's your citations and evidence for your assertions? Jurassic Park was based on the best paleontologists' knowledge at the time, nearly 30 years ago. The main issue concerning Crichton's books being made into movies in this context is that before Timeline, the movies were pretty close to the books or got the same message across. Not true with Timeline, which is what we're talking about here.
+Keith Ode But there is the irony of it really when the book is right the filmmakers go off and make up a bunch of their own BS and get it all completely wrong (Timeline), but they didn't update anything with Jurassic Park even though we had better information to go on by that point. In short never trust Hollywood to do History or Science right.
+I don't see the irony, but Hollywood gets science fiction and history correct sometimes. And I'm no fan of Hollywood.
Hahahaha!
I can imagine, for someone's resume: I directed a movie so bad, the author of the novel decided he won't allow any more adaptations of his other books
"Well Jenny you failed" was my favourite
made me laugh he is the best i love it
Poor jenny
Came here to write the same thing. 😂
I love your reviews and criticisms.
I had a laugh at 6:18 when hearing about having a Holy Roman Empire device of a yellow shield with a black eagle carried by an English knight.
I had a later needle scratch moment at 11:58 when shown a pavilion with the same Holy Roman Empire black eagle on yellow shield device in period art while talking about the French and English in the Hundred Years War.
She failed as badly as the people making the movie, Black Ninja failed.
Seriously the best thing on TH-cam right now is watching Nick go from zero-to-pissed-of in 20 minutes and learning something on the way.
Some of the comments he makes about Paul Walker, in general, seems a tad bit harsh, dontcha think?
Nah, I think its fair enough. Its nothing compared to some of the (very deserved) rants he gives to Mel Gibson.
Or Indie and The Great War Team.
eh, the best thing on the internet!
You missed the reference to Macbeth, a play that wasn't even written until 1606 ( The part where Lord Oliver says "You've come to kill us all in our beds" after the guy says they are Scottish)
God this movie sucks.
Thank You! I got the reference but was always too lazy to look up when it was written
Chris Filby
Wasn't that a reference to the 1692 "incident" where some dastardly Macdonalds were killed in their sleep by the Campbells, even though it was clearly self defence and my surname has nothing to do with my perspective...
I thought it was a reference to braveheart, the part when mel gibson kills that dude with the iron ball lol
@@ivanandres6828
That's got to be the best death in that movie.
Some of the things in the book that the movie really missed on mentioning or explaining or just caged out right:
1. The ITC corporation stated that time travel was impossible and instead the machine they built proved quatom foam theory and multiverse theory was real. Long explination shorted, they could go to another universe and depending on how close that universe was close to ours it could potentially affect our timeline. (Ie Marek choosing to stay in the other universe, and they found his grave in theirs)
2. Before the start of the archeologists journey, previous ITC teams traveling to the past were allowed to carry modern day weapons. And the marine who brought the grenade also brought a Beretta 9mm with him as well.
3. The character Marek was from the Netherlands and told everyone he was Dutch in the 1300s
4. Pro. Johnston and Chris were not related. Chris' parents died in a car crash his freshman year and Johnston essentially "adopted" him. The professor took him in and they have a father/son relationship
6:55 "Well Jenny you failed"
Makes me laugh every time
Tinyman11 as a dress historian it’s so good!
its 6:51
@@PrincessSunbutt r ee e ee e e e ee eeee e e e e eeee e e
This is what happens when we don't pause to make a timestamp x D
fun fact:
as a Swedish speaker, i understand more old English than the average Brit today.
@Raktim Kalita ofc he can't. Its called a bluff.
Da Dude mihte eaðe on riht gesprecen habban, swa me þyncð.
Nah im swedish and i understand a few words too. Fun fact, thanks to the viking invasion of britain allot of norse words carried over to the english language in the area danelaw. answer for instance comes from the scandinavian/swedish word "ansvar" which means "to answer for something". Due to the reason that norse has developed slowly we can still understand allot of norse and therefore allot of the old english. the scandinavian languages has pretty much only developed by stealing other words from other laguages (English, french, german) but the norse core of the swedish language remains similar. sure some words have disapeared in time but most only have small differentiations from their old versions.
A few modern english words that have been stolen:
t-shirt, te (tea), access, pub, after-work (drinking with coworkers after work), abstrakt (abstract), airbag, approach, all inclusive, bag, bestseller, bodybuilding, brainstorm, cheerleader, coach, comeback, concealer, container, design, e-mail, fair play, feed (instagram and such).
All this and waaaaay more words, then we're not even talking about the french words. i could go on for ages.
I thought exactly the same thing. Old English sounds very similar to Swedish.
@@augustkrummel5695 "Answer" comes from a general Germanic verb, "andaswarjaną", which appeared in Old English as "andswarian" (and as "ondswera" in its continental cousin, Frisian, which didn't have such a heavy Norse influence). There's no reason to assume it was borrowed from Old Norse.
I absolutely love Nick's reaction at 10:56
Priceless!
I just had the realization...if the wormhole is set to a fixed point, how did they arrive after the professor? Shouldn't they have arrived at exactly the same time and place as the professor?
Maybe the wormhole kinda moves at the exact same pace as our time would make more sense. so if you wait 5 days you get there 5days later
@@Jebu911 I don't remember the movie that well, but the book explained it. In the book, you weren't really going back in time, but to a parallel universe that is developing as ours did, just however many years behind. So long as you went to the same universe, it would work like you say.
@@gr81dispAs I remember it from my reading 15 years ago, it was time travel. Quantum foam makes me roam but also that dude that stayed back had a tomb in present times
@@juniorsanchez7441 it wasn't time travel, but it had the same net effect. The reason he had a tomb was because another universe had sent their version to our universe hundreds of years ago.
A few other tidbits:
- bare-headed characters: in the XIV-XVth centuries, people very rarely went about without covering their head. Most people wore at least a cap made of linen or other cloth, cut to fit tightly around the head. Above that, all manners of hats or hoods could be worn, and were worn permanently while in public (even in the public baths, as shown in a lot of illustrations). In some cities, edicts forbid some categories of citizens from wearing headgear, or forced a specific type of headgear. This was often the case for prostitutes and Jews (many royal edicts have segregated them). A bareheaded woman would most probably be a prostitute, a noblewoman like lady Catherine would NEVER let her hair hang down in public.
- dull colored garb: most movies have people, whatever their social level, wear dull colored garb. This is wrong. Dyeing was a flourishing industry and craft in those days. Everyone could not afford the fancy dyes that gave bright reds or vibrant blues, but a hoard of tinctorial plants was available from almost everyone's backyard or nearby fields and woods, and these were very frequently used, except for underwear. And if it is true that washing one's clothes was not a weekly chore, the infrequent laundering was also an opportunity to refresh the colors of one's garb.
Thank you for that, interesting 😊
Vincent Joris so glad to see someone else picks up on inaccurate costuming. The reviewer said it best with, “Well Jenny, you failed.”
"Well Jenny you failed" bahahaha loved it man!
She's such a bullshit artist.
I was wondering if anyone made a comment on that line.
"We're not making a documentary"
Translation: "I think history's boring shit for nerds so I decided to phone it in at my job that I get paid to do"
With a guy like paul walker, i am surprised they didn't have a fast and furious style chase with horses
Daniel boooooooooo!
Didn't they? I always thought there was a horse chase - maybe I'm getting my movies mixed up, lol.
Wow is today Corny jokes day?
It would've crashed and burned like F&F anyway.
Well they did, didn't they?
Michael Crichton: I should make time travel and the dark ages as realistic as possible. Movie's director: The what now?
14th century is not dark ages.
the book was way more entertaining than the movie..
I study medieval history very closely and this is so annoying that paid professionals can't even get the simple things right!
Anybody watching this movie for historical accuracy needs a lobotomy
It never cease to amaze me how, in this kind of movie or show, an archaeologist is THE expert to everything historical. They dig a little bit through rubble and/or earth, find some small thing - and immediately know everything there is to know about it: the timeperiod and culture it's from, where it's made, from which materials it's made and so on...
But that's not how it's done! At an excavation like this you'll need a lot of specialists. You'll need someone who can analyse the material (probably a chemist). If there's anything organic you'll need someone to analyse this too. Based on this, you can make a guess about the age of the thing you found. But most of all you'll need a historian (or at least the skillset of a historian) to give your found the much needed context.
As much as archaeologists (even the real ones) think, they don't need a historian, without historical context they're just guessing. This sentiment goes both ways. The work of a historian often relies on interpretation of old scripts and you'll never know if the writer lied, was drunk, telling the truth etc. With archaeological evidence you can prove or disprove the old texts.
As a historian myself this is what truly angers me about this movie (and others like it).
And a few other things you didn't mentioned, like untypical behaviour of people in the past. They don't think like we do. They live within a different framework of belief, manners, gender roles etc. They have a strict code how you have to behave based on your social status, what is appropriate and what is not... This is a thing most history movies ignore in favour of getting the audience to identify themselfs with den historical persons. I think this is wrong and especially movies about time travel miss out on a lot of possible conflicts.
Ilogunde history is literally the written chronicles of a given period.
So if there are no written records a historian is useless to an archaeologist.
And yes, archaeologists xcan and DO pick something up from the dig and expound on its method of manufacture, period and so on.
That is what they trainfor. Do you think they dig randomly?
A bronze age greek archaeologist doesnt randomly dig up a scottish iron age fort. They are working IN THEIR FIELD OF EXPERTISE. So yes goddamned derr they can tell you a shit tonne about the society etc from one piece of evidence.
I appreciate the time you spent going over diseases from different times and the dangers they represent. I am working on my own time travel series, and I will make sure to incorporate that. Many thanks!
How did it go?
Has the book been published?
“Not only scientifically improbable, it’s historically impossible” that line is POWERFUL!
Regardless of how inaccurate that movie is - there are two lines of text saving it for me:
Paraphrasing, obviously:
Father: "You never liked archeology. You even didn't even like easter egg hunt as a child."
Son (annoyed): "Yes Dad - because you buried the eggs."
Starts talking about the fire arrows
LINDY BEIGE INTENSIFIES
*L I N D Y B A G E*
LINDY BEIGE !
F I R E A R R O W S
Jenny beaven: "we base everything... on a historical truth... but adapted for film"
randall wallace: "i didn't want to capture the historical brave heart, but a spirit or a feeling"
translation: we have no fucking idea what all this is but it looks good enough.
Yep and, by extension, we can't be fucked taking the time and effort to be respectful to the source material and the history it's based on and do decent research. Mainly because there's not profit in it for us.
"Where in an infantry formation does someone hold a standard?"
"That's a cavalry standard."
"Your services are no longer required. _Have someone in the third row hold it!_ "
7:00 "...they always dismounted first before firing." One of my pet peeves is the use of the verb To Fire when talking about bows and arrows. The idea of "Firing" a missile only arose after the adoption of gunpowder - for fairly obvious reasons. In 1357 one "Shot" or "Loosed" arrows.
lomax343 funny, because even in GoT do say that. In battle of the bastard is a clear example. Although they do have fire arrows
Well, tbh GoT jumped the shark for me a few seasons ago. It doesn't even seem the same show to me anymore. Seems like they don't put the effort they once did.
They don't say "fire" in Game of Thrones. In all instances I can remember they clearly say "Nock. Draw. Loose." And I don't know what version of The Battle of the Bastards you saw, but there are no fire arrows at all.
They do have fire arrows in the show, at least, but they're used to light boats full of fuel, which seems a reasonable application (Lord Tully's funeral and the battle on the Blackwater come to mind). I have a hard time swallowing some of their long-range bow accuracy, though.
I was assuming he still meant The Battle of the Bastards regarding the fire arrows, but I see that I might have misinterpreted. Yes, and besides igniting the wildifre they also used fire arrows on Stannis' forces after they landed. Maybe to try and ignite the landing boats? Or just because it looked cool. They still say "nock-draw-loose." in that battle, however.
I read the book a long time ago, but I remember that the issue of language was a major thing in the plot. The son of the professor was the only one that couldn't speak back (only understand with his earphones) and got separated from the group, so he had to manage alone without a way to communicate properly.
Wow! I wish they would have included that in the film.
What's sad is that the book the movie is based on gets the History mostly correct. In the book, the characters do speak Occitan and old English. The present day characters have a chip installed in their ear that translates the language for them. The book is actually really good, especially for the historical content. As for the movie...I stopped watching about 20 minutes in. Too much nonsense.
CloudSurfer821 in 1357 they'd be speaking middle English though not as much old English.
I just re-read the book and haven’t seen the movie. It is wild to see how badly they adapted it because every criticism leveled against the film in this video is specifically addressed in the book. Jeez
To be fair though, ever since Dark any time travel story just falls extremely short and seems childish by comparison hahaha, maybe just primer, which has the logic and complexity but isn't remotely as incredible
I couldn't finish the book either.
I didn’t read this before I commented lol yes thank you haha
"Hot or not: It's the bubonic plague"
Definitely hot
Only small pox woukd be hotter
@7:29 "Why did that guy only bring a grenade?" Because it was the Holy Hand Grenade! Long live Monty Python! Did History Buffs ever look at that movie?
Finally I have waited so long
Yeah, language changes so fast, even when watching old documentaires about hindenburg crash or old ww2 footage, the narrator speaks in a total different way.
Allura Ambrose it should be still understandable
A lot of those old movies and announcers spoke with an affected accent called Mid Atlantic, sort of a mish mash of New England/BBC English. No one spoke it in real life, it was literally learned for movies and the news, etc. Weird. It fell out of favor when more realistic voices in films became popular.
OGSpaceCadet: Have you ever seen the bloopers from movies made in the 20s? They're hilarious. The second the actor screws up, they immediately revert to speaking normally and drop the put-on accent on the spot.
"my work usually entails... a historical truth, but adapted for film."
in english: make it look pretty and medievaly, but not accurate.
Whenever I watch a period piece I always look at the shoes. Because I was a Shakespearean stage-fighter for 25 years, I always wonder, "Yeah, but can they fight in them?" They virtually always get it wrong.
@@pvthitch Medieval shoes are pretty good on medieval surfaces; particularly dry grass, packed dirt, or untreated wood. They're OK, if uncomfortable, on cobblestones. Wet grass and muck, not so much.
Trying to wear them on modern surfaces like polished linoleum is not a good idea.
Could you do a video on Flags of our Fathers and Letters From Iwo Jima? These two movies are about the Battle of Iwo Jima. Flags of our Fathers coming from the standpoint of the flag raisers on Iwo Jima. And Letters of Iwo Jima coming from the standpoint of a Japanese soldier. In my opinion, these two movies are great depictions of the Battle of Iwo Jima on both sides of the battle.
I been thinking he would have done Letter from Iwo Jima by now. It's been a year since I seen this and it still hasn't happened. You think he jump at the chance to cover a ww2 movie made by americans completely about Japanese soldiers and only their side of the battle. I feel like that's to unique to pass up. It's the perfect movie for this channels content.
@@thomasc.5219 he also made another movie from the pov of the Japanese.
There's another time-traveling sci-fi novel called Doomsday Book by Connie Willis. It's about a girl who travels back to early 14th century England, but ends up in 1348, smack down in the middle of the Black Plague, and scientists back in the 21st century are struggling to bring her back. It's really brilliant, moving, sad and interesting read - definitely check it out!
TO: Nomoredrama2000
RE: "There's another time-traveling sci-fi novel called Doomsday Book by Connie Willis."
I've read that book, but I couldn't finish it and that's extremely unusual for me. And I generally love time-travel stories. By the way, I have read and enjoyed Michael Crichton's novel Timeline.
I would agree with you on that one. If I remember rightly the “modern era” is in the middle of a ‘flu pandemic at the time to counter point the Black Death aspect. I felt it was well done but not really action adventure stuff. I particularly liked some of the time travel details such as the chest they send her back with being based on one found in a local dig which turns out to be the one they sent her back with
Weird, that was the one that immediately came to mind when he started talking about languages. They do that part right in that book.
Yes! Doomsday Book is an amazing novel, full of details that seem pretty accurate when compared to my historical reading. It manages to depict heartbreaking tragedy, tense suspense and drily witty absurdist humor in perfect balance. The near-future epidemic feels pretty relevant right now, of course, not to mention the historical plague. I’ve read it several times, highly recommend. I wouldn’t mind seeing it adapted as a well done film.
6:55 "Well Jenny you failed"
Makes me laugh every time
That grenade is an M7290. That's a stun grenade. It makes a big flash and blinds you. It has minimal explosive capacity and certainly wouldn't damage that room beyond a scorch mark.
You're correct that lord Oliver would speak French, but he'd likely speak English too. That said, his primary language was probably the former. One prominent 1400 century nobleman is quoted is saying that a man who can't speak French can't be respected.
On the kiss: HOLY SHIT WOULD THE SOCIETY NOT BE DOWN WITH THAT. A public kiss between a married couple was cause to gasp, let alone an unmarried lady kissing a commoner in public. Whore! Harlot! Upstart! Arrogant peasant! Hang the man and semd her to a nunnery!
The trebuchets: there is no fucking reason the trebuchet payload should be on fire. You're not trying to burn down the inside (you wouldn't want to anyway, you want the castle for yourself). You're trying to destroy a section of the wall. And furthermore, setting fire to the payload is dangerous to yourself. That trebuchet is WOOD. Same with those fire arrows.
About the grenade thing: in the book it was a normal grenade, and the whole movie just doesn’t matter because it’s stupid and a waste, so you shouldn’t care about the grenade
in the book he used a frag grenade, I forget all the plot details about the time machine , but the glass you see shattering in the movie was super important.
Remember that the goal here is to capture the settlement, not destory it ;)
Coda Mission heck that marine should have brought a bayonet
@@zoehsieh50 also in the book they took into mind how about the language barrier they had translators if I remember straight in their ears and had to get an understanding of Old English and French just to be able to deal with the language barrier I don't know if I remember dad directly you make correct me but in the movie they screwed that up by bringing the translator who was pretty much all but useless and stupidly got himself killed getting them all named spies! What a pointless character among many of the stupid things they did in that movie text reshma I can understand changing certain things but seriously even though they were only focusing on one part of the book and making it the main story! Well that's about right looking at Total Recall the Arnie version
I finished reading the book about 2 weeks ago. It's almost impressive how poorly they turned it into a movie. (in a way that is good, as the book has far more interesting scenes that weren't included in the movie. So after watching the movie you can still read the book and run into almost only new things)
OK, as a Cold War historian, I know enough European history to see many of the same flaws you did. However, after warching this pile of trash movie, I realized that there might have been an easy way for these timetravelers to get to their objective: put on the symbol and demeanor of pilgrims. Wearing, for example, the scallop shell of pilgrims heading to San Juan Compostella, the whole group would be considered inviolate and could gain sanctuary in any monastery.
I wonder, wouldn't spies also use that disguise, thus making it useless?
Interesting, so people weren't as pragmatic back then?
I think you over-estimate their religious fervour. During the time-period some churches ran brothels, some Bishops owned armies, some knights and kings broke sanctuary laws and killed people in churches anyway. Rare, yes, but not uncommon. Besides that people were constantly being excommunicated and didn't give a darn about it. In Italy there were wars against the Pope by other Catholics (Who were excommunicated, but then pardoned after they won). They were more pragmatic than you think. Personally I see no reason why they shouldn't disguise themselves as pilgrims. Even though other spies might do the same it gives them a better reason to be there than "Oh we just happened to be walking through". One problem I could see though is suspicion arising when they don't continue towards Spain the next day, and decide to wait around at a battlefield. Very un-pilgrim-like.
agree the 100 yrs war was a brawl with factions in it just for loot peasents revolting and murdering anyone they met the so called nobles brutal and avaricious france was like one big pirate raid noone was safe
algi - It's rather what happened during the Tokugawa Era as well. Spies dressed as Buddhist Zen priests would move about the countryside and report back to their masters. One of the ways that this was gotten around was the fact that shakuhachi they played had a few songs that were nearly impossible to play. Only the actual priests who had studied for years could play it.
I only recently discovered your channel thanks to Elizabeth: The Golden Age. I have been devouring the content. I saw this title pop up in recommendations and my immediate reaction was "oh no. ohhhh dear. oh no nono"
WELL JENNY YOU FAILED
Considering it's subject matter, I'd love to see a video about how realistic Downfall truly is.
Pretty close actually, although some of the events are still open to speculation because the few witnesses to the events give contradictory stories (for rather obvious reasons, many of the living witnesses took years to come forward if ever, by which time their memories faded somewhat as to specific details). But it is quite authentic in the sense that the sets, costumes, and characterizations are pretty spot on, even down to the accents and idiolects.
I think he's correcting "Time Travel" to "Wormhole" to say something like "hold your horses, it's not selective time travel, it's only to a specific point". (first time hearing about wormholes crossing time, mind you)
We all miss Stargate SG-1. We all do.
SG-1 and Atlantis.
...but screw Universe.
I live in Vancouver where they filmed it and recently ran into the actor who played the nerdy glasses wearing tech guy in every episode.
*sigh* Those TV watching days during high school...
Aerrowflex I saw the movie, does that count?
yes, yes it do
Oh God, that pronunciation of Occitan... By the way, the Spanish bit was hilarious. I love the vitriol and hatred in this one.
Oh God, I forgot that this was the movie with Greek fire. Jesus.
“Hot or not, I wouldn’t risk it for the bubonic plague”
I don’t know why this makes me laugh.
Hey! Space Jam is my favourite basketball documentary! I feel so attacked!
It's not just the draw weight, a medieval English archer wouldn't sit on a horse to shoot a bow because it's not a balanced position. You want to stand firmly planted to the ground to provide a strong Base otherwise the arrow will lack strength and accuracy
Sorry mate, i think with practice you can shoot a long bow from the saddle. My problem is that they are hard to use near overhanging limbs. I discovered that in my backyard.
Apparently not if you're Mongolian. Or Chinese...or Japanese...or Ottoman Turks...or, well, almost every civilisation that has existed before the invention of the longbow. But the longbow was not the only bow we used. We also used crossbows and shortbows (hunting bows) as every army has it's long and short-range weapons.
Great review 👍. When I saw the fire arrows section, I immediately thought about Lindybeige (and wondering how he would rip this apart 😂😂)!
Do Gangs of New York
YES! Do Gangs!
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I was going to suggest something else, but I like this better
happygoluckyscamp Gangs of New York!!!! Nice choice!!!
i suggested that one like 4 times and i think hes ignoring us
YESSSS!!!
Disappointing about the costumes. It's not like she's a terrible designer, she did Sense and Sensibility, Defiance, Alexander, Sherlock Holmes, The King's Speech and Mad Max: Fury Road (not a historical film, but it looked friggin' awesome).
She probably had a low budget
She did actually. But that's no excuse. She had dozens of historical re-enactors pointing out every flaw in her costume design to her, albeit too late for her to do anything about it.
+Andre it's not always that easy, sometimes it's out of their hands. It's like always blaming devs for video game issues, it's usually the publisher constraining their time, focus, etc
Sense and Sensibility were good costumes!
I've been binge watching you channel came across it just looking at my recommended videos. Keep up the great work on your channel!
How about you try the show Narcos on Netflix. It's a show about Pablo Escobar's rise and fall and how the American DEA eventually caught him and basically tells us about the entirety of the 70s and 80s drug trafficking problems after the Nixon Era. Would be interesting to see if you are interested in such a show as you haven't yet covered this specific part of history and the history of this form of crime except for your goodfellas video. However, this is just a suggestion. Hope you look through this show and review its historical accuracies and inaccuracies. Thanks! Greetings from an Asian! :)
Time Travel nerd here.
The reason why it's not technically time travel is because as the guy says, it's locked at a single time and, important to note, place. Regular time travel infers actually going backward or forward in time. Time progresses or regresses in these instances with an actual "distance" being traversed. Because of the wormhole being locked in a single location, it's more of a doorway. You walk into it and come out the other side thus eliminating the "distance" that the word "travel" would require. Your use of Stargate clip is more accurate than you probably thought since it works in a similar manner.
Of course, the movie still gets it wrong because the wormhole being "locked" implies that they would instantly show up at the exact moment the professor gets there and when they bring him back they'd probably notice themselves going to that moment. So the movie accidentally creates a paradox that would have it that the professor would never be able to write a notice of help, leading them to never have the incentive to investigate. It simply wouldn't happen or they'd be stuck in a time loop that borders on being a living hell.
For the show to make it actually work, it would mean that there would be no fixed "time". Only the wormhole would be locked and theoretically, a few centuries from now taking the wormhole would lead to today at the time of me writing this.
To put it simply. It is time travel, that defies all known theories because they explained it in a shit way.
I think the bigger problem is that they find the professor's distress call and bifocal. Shouldn't that be in a different, parallel universe? How did it end up in the past of our own universe if they're not actually technically going back in time? Same for the grave at the end. This isn't just a problem of the movie, either, since the same issue is present in the book. He worked so hard to make the time travel scientifically feasible, but then introduced a huge inconsistency to serve the plot.
That One Oldtaku
I don't think it goes against any assumptions made about 'time travel'. it is just poorly explained. the wormhole as an offset in location and time. this is kinda like in the movie deja Vu.
For fun reading, look up "Grandfather Paradox".
Maybe it works like transporting you back in a specific number of years, but trying to explain it to a bunch of history students would be a pain so they simplify it, hell the "history buff" doesn't get it, they 'd have half an hour explaining to them how it works for no reason.
The thing I remember about this movie is how they "bum rushed" that group of archaeologist into going into the past. It was like, You gotta go now!" and it seemed that most of them didn't want to go. They were ultimately goaded into it.
Had to pause the vid just to say I introduced my wife to StarGate and we're watching all of it together, including atlantis, universe and the movies. We're on the last 2 episodes of season 10.....Damn I love that show!
Night arrows??? Seriously??? great review.
I wonder how he calls them during the day
+Danox94 Tha'd be camouflage arrows, commonly used in the middle ages^^
Uhm, sounds like he calls out "light arrows", as in "set fire to the arrows" and then fires ordinary arrows to catch out any French that might be waiting on fire arrows but get hit by the unobserved ordinary arrows.
So the scene in fact is somewhat clever.
Elmarby not really
Having listened to it again, I must admit you are right.
I guess on first hearing my ears just gave that line the benefit of the doubt where it was not deserved. Hot damn that is stupid!
just some nitpicking; the point about time travel, the guy meant that they stumbled upon a wormhole, maybe of natural origin, not that they invented time travel to make use at will.
...so science fiction that takes place in historical settings is now fair game?
*Rubs hands together* Gooooooooood~
The french did use longbows though not in the same quantity as the English. Hovewer from a visual standpoint its a bad idea in the movie, as Nick says its arguably the most iconic "english" weapon in the war (possibly ever).
Most seem to think that the warbow was somehow unique to England, and by that I mean that most people seem to think that the English/Welsh had an inclusive 'right' to the design of large bows meant for war.
ChipMHazard Exactly. Its not the weapon itself but rather how it was used that seperated english armies from their counterparts during the HYW. Also of course too much focus is put on the bow rather than the archer but that is a discussion for another time..
Plus "short bow" is something from AD&D.
And you can shoot longbow from horseback , but only really to your bowhand side. And push-pull drawing in the bow is a bit difficult on the saddle , so it needs to be a bit lighter draw weight than infantry bow usually.
by the middle of Hundred Years War the English were importing most of their bows due to yew shortage. So other nations certainly made longbows , and archery was not an absurdly rare skill. If they had the bows in a siege they would use them. That said there is a reason why the English and Welsh are synonymous with the longbow, they are only ones that recruited and trained mass numbers of professional archers. You really had to dedicate your infrastructure and resources to maintain such a force. Other kingdoms found that crossbows were way more cost effective to produce and train and were arguably more effective, especially in a siege. So while I wouldn't say the French didnt use longbows, they probably wouldnt in the movie's context in any case.
Yep, everyone used longbows to some extent, and the English also used crossbows. Hell, just look at the paintings of the Hundred Years' War, they show longbow vs. longbow prominently. The big thing the English did compared to other cultures was fielding comparatively huge numbers of longbows, which they could do because of their deep social and cultural attachment to every able man training with them, so instead of a rare specialist weapon, it became a standard equipment.
One thing time travel stories ALWAYS forget about is that, the Earth itself is moving in an orbit, so you ALSO have to have precise GPS coordinates, otherwise, you’d be time traveling right into the vacuum of space. Endgame addresses this VERY briefly, but it’s so vague I’m not sure it counts.
Do a review on Hacksaw Ridge seeing how you " love" Mel Gibson's historical movies.
Interestingly as someone who likes history and doesn't like mel gibson i found very little to pick on with this movie. I genuinely liked it^^
Hacksaw ridge really stripped down his service to one major battle. Most of what he did in the movie happened, just not all at once. Doss was a great man and I loved hearing about his story. I saw a pseudo documentary about him before the movie was even announced.
I want History Buffs to do a review of the The Bounty (1984) which has Mel Gibson and also stars Anthony Hopkins.
I gave up on the movie after watching the scene were a GI grabs a corpse off the ground and starts using it as a meatshield. He literally runs forward with 150lbs of dead person in his left hand and 25lbs of BAR in his right and still manages in kill 5 Japanese soldiers with one hip fire burst. What a joke! Plus the CGI was trash and the romantic plot was more generic than most movies from the actual 1940's.
I remember when this movie first came out, I was so excited! I loved the book (read it 3 times by the time I was 13) and wanted to see it realized in the cinema. I was sorely disappointed. The book was a study on the quantum theories that included the multiverse theory. The movie dumbed down the science that was in the book that Crichton already put into relative (very relative) layman's terms, and it also destroyed all of the historical research (to include languages Crichton had done to get that time right. I was so bummed out! If you haven't seen the movie, don't. It really isn't worth your time, but the book is absolutely incredible!
I did not read the book, but my overall impression was that the movie started and ended way too quickly, with the entire quantum-wormhole thing just being a contrived plot-devise so we can have a fish-out-of-water story of modern people in medeval times. If I hadn't just checked up and read that it's actually almost 2 hours long I would have been convinced it was only about 80 minutes of rushed mess.
This was a fun movie to watch during the pandemic..R.I.P. Paul Walker
the only time travel media I've ever seen address the whole illness thing at least in some part is Outlander by Diana Galbadon. Since the protagonist, Claire, is from the 1940s, she is immune to many historic diseases due to her ancestors having (obviously) survived most of those diseases. And as a nurse and later a surgeon she uses her knowledge to keep her husband and patients from growing too ill, even making her own version of penicillin for extreme cases.
I am still going to ask you do "the great escape"
That movie is the perfect movie for him to do
Enclave Officer saving private Ryan I'd say
lovablesnowman he did.
Thank you for promoting the novel. I've always loved this book and was super excited to see the movie. But it was a letdown. Crichton was brilliant at looking at little details and it was a shame they couldn't transfer the "science" to the film.
Kissing noble women in public in the middle ages....HOW DID YOU MISS THAT ONE Nick! :P
Rhys Booth that's what I thought he was going to go into rather than diseases.
The thing about language was *the biggest thing* that bugged me- though there were many, many, many others... I found a clip a couple of months back, asking the qs. 'How far could you go back in time, & still understand English'? This would be equally valid for most any modern language, like French or Scots; I haven't read the book, so I wasn't sure how it had been addressed, thank you for letting me know the writer wasn't some hack, who didn't think of such a sticking point - obviously, I would hope the dude who wrote *Jurassic Park* would not be. If I was him, I would have been mortified by what was done to my work; seriously, it doesn't kill producers, researchers, scriptwriters, designers & directors to give an extra few minutes to things that make no sense otherwise- I mean, what were they thinking!
OcarinaSapph1r3 -24 Yeah, and as an actual *amateur* linguist who is a fan of the book, it would bug me even more.
OcarinaSapph1r3 -24 Oh, and the book, in my opinion, addresses it very well.
Try William Shakspear (or the different spellings of the name) Try reading Chauser in the original. English that one could really understand came after the age of Liz 1
With some difficulty, you may be able to understand Early Modern English, basically the time period Shakespeare's plays and the King James version of the Bible were written. (Mid 16th to early 17th century). Pronunciation would be the biggest obstacle, because vowels have shifted considerably since then, as has vocabulary, but with some effort you'd probably mostly be able to understand them, but making yourself understood in return speaking modern English would be a lot more difficult. But they'd probably get the gist of it.
"You speak strangely"...
Response: "Does anyone here speak jive?!?"
Can you do Glory, 1989?
So this movie is "historically accurate" as Bill and Ted time adventure.
But they got an A on their assignment, how could anything be wrong in the movie?
Ernest Jay Bill and Ted was probably more historically accurate.
Their assignment was to posit how historical figures might view modern day San Dimas. So in essence, it wasn't so much a history project as it was a historical science fiction project.
That likely was more real they couldn't talk to most of the historical figures and in this movie it would be an issue especially an educated woman would likely be seen as a witch unless a religious sister who teaches.
@@clerickolter Utter tosh. There were plenty of educated Medieval woman. Europe's first professional female author, Christine de Pizan lived in France in the early 1400s. She was not a nun, and her books were bestsellers of the time.
I love how "Night Arrows" are just normal ones
Rufus is the pilot in Timeless because he is the only one left who can pilot the ship, a lazy excuse to create dramatic tension, sure... but one explained in the plot. Now, that brings up questions of why, if you have a time machine, you cannot take all the time you want to train someone new and why changes to the past aren't instantaneously felt in the present is another question, but that is a common logical problem with the entire genre.
PS, I love your show in general, just wanted to point that out.
"Night arrows!" That was cringy..
Why didn't they use these so called night arrows to begin with when they worked better?
The BOOK Timeline actually makes these concerns about language, mannerism, etc., into actual PLOT POINTS.
"Aw fuck it" should be the tagline to this movie.
"Well Jenny you failed"
lol, savage.
"Hot or not, it's the bubonic plague" words to live by
Okay, so the big question:
is there any Time Travel Movie that got its history RIGHT (assuming they go back more than a few decades)? If not, which one came the closest?
Back to the Future Part 2. They predicted many things that we we would use, sure there are no flying cars but they did predict the cubs would win the World Series. 😉 I'm not American but I'm guessing that's baseball or something.
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@@NewNicator Interestingly enough they were only one year off with the prediction of the Cubs winning (they won in 2016 not 2015). Though they were wrong about what team they would beat: movie predicted an unnamed Miami team with an alligator as its logo; the Cubs would instead defeat the Cleveland Indians.
I am a simple man, I see History Buffs, I click thumbs up.
Man, this was my favorite movie growing up
It's a fun movie!
Definitely a grade A historical film, I mean, realizing that the Holy Roman Empire secretly invaded France under the guise of an English army? Impressive. Knowing that languages can't change overtime? Even more amazing.
Timeline is a definitely historically accurate film.
(read with extra sarcasm for full effect.)
David Ant I think I *did* read it with extra sarcasm. Thanks for the warning. I have autism so it's hard for me to get jokes sometimes.
Me again, I noticed you never did an episode on Last of the Mohicans. My suggestion is that. Do one on Last of The Mohicans.
Anderson Andrighi Yes, I would LOVE to see that.
We watched the last of the Mohicans and the Patriot
I would pay money for that! I love that movie and though it is a great movie I don't think it's historically accurate and would love to see it picked at by our good friends at history buffs!
The action scenes were kind of crappy, blunt objects inflicting serious wounds
16:22 Greek Fire was almost the same as napalm, which was invented during WWII. The components are well known, therefore Professor Johnston would know how to make it if he paid very close attention in Organic Chemistry. But every other complaint you have is right on target. How amusing that I still enjoy watching this train wreck of a movie. As a biologist, I too had many dark thoughts on the people from the past and the people from the future passing viruses and bacteria to each other.
Do black hawk down
Obi-Wan Kenobi hello there
General Kenobi!
You are a bold one
In blackhawk down the director made it an army movie
Those are marines, not Army
13:19 Apparently the had staples back in Middle Ages.
Indeed they did. It's a fairly simple idea - a nail with two points bent back on itself. Nothing terribly revolutionary.
gmet12915 Julius Caesar had staples. Roman engineers used those very big ( about 30-40 cm long) staples to construct fast river crossing bridges.
9:17 Garlic if he's from the highlands. I always knew those Irish lads were lying when they said they studied Gaelic not garlic.
Hey could you do Gangs of New York? I just watched it for the first time the other day and thoroughly enjoyed it, though I did realize that the New York draft riots were something of a hole in my historical education and I would love to learn more
Hmm, I think for the greek fire, the exact formula is lost, but it doesn't mean the concept is lost. There are enough theories as to why the chemical fire will not be extinguished by water that he can probably make a greek fire imitator. Somewhat like, if heron of alexandria's design of steam engine is lost, we still can invent a steam engine because the theory is there.
He probably used animal fat. He didnt give them greek fire, he gave them grease fire
@TheLoneWolf550 Magic, thats how.
I'd figured he just made crude napalm that might as well be greek fire.
You know we lost about 500-600 years of technology advancement because we burnt the libery of Alexandria
Glad Francois was really helpful for translating before he was stabbed in the first ten minutes of arriving to the past. I don’t even think he actually got to translate anything.
Sad but true! It always bugged me how quickly he was killed.
Yeah… I haven’t even watched it and I feel bad for the poor guy! No reason to be there, no reason to die! It’s like they wrote him in and only realized later he was useless and shelved him! lol
Do Letters from Iwo Jima next.
Harsh Shah Still need to watch that movie. Wish Netflix or Amazon would license it for it to be streamed here in the US.
agreed on doing them as a set, Letters in particular is the kind of war movie you do not see often. Most war films tend to focus on the winners or at least use their perspective, in Letters we see an exclusively Japanese POV on events.
Omg, that would be amazing! And I agree with you, Enclave Officer, both those movies run parallel to each other and Nick could cover a lot of ground by doing them in one shot.
I loved this book! I was so excited that there was going to a movie, but it was just felt like such a letdown after I walked out of the theater. They didn't even get the science right!
Its pretty lazy they could have just had some throwaway lines for setup for the translators and still speak regular english there for audiences sake. Alltho that obviously wasnt the only mistake but that one was really easy to fix.
I love how it angers you. So much fun this one.
I love the Book and was so excited ehen they announced the Movie. And then this crap. The Book made many things right.
I am still hoping for a Netflix series of the Boom
Funny, i still do not get why would not little boy in book understand what aye means and why anyone is thinking that they are scots/irish??
Please do Downfall!
Linguist Beats I second this idea, a video on this movie would be great (though probably incredibly challenging to actually find any inaccuracies)
i love that movie for showing ww2 from axis point of view. there are too few movies that do that. but i guess it makes sense since germans made the movie, i dont expect germans to make a ww2 movie from for example American perspective
I put in a vote for this one too.
I reccomend starlingrad (1993) that a great movie as well
Has he done Enemy at the Gates? Good movie, wonder how well it holds up
On the wormhole issue. It could be significant for a few reasons. One is that it establishes they didn't build it. The wormhole is a naturally occurring structure of the universe that they discovered. While much of the science and certainly history of the movie is problematic, I do like that they point out that wormholes connect two points in spacetime, which means that unlike their use in much of science fiction, they would allow for some time of 'time travel' more often than not, rather than just being a handy way to travel.
Love your videos!
Love that Ed Wood references on 9:56 and 12:29