@pg5200: Regarding the maximum slope, it's between 25 and 30 degrees, depending on what rubber bands you use to line the grip wheels with. Pay attention to the towers though, since you need to make sure at least one of the grip wheels is in contact with the rope at all times, which is why the sheave trains are not equally spaced but arranged in a certain pattern (as seen in the video). The maximum deflection angle per sheave is very small.
@pg5200: You're right about the compression sheaves, they are larger than we originally planned. There was no other way because the wheels on the grips are pretty large too. If we had made the compression sheave trains any smaller, the grips would simply collide with them instead of pushing them upwards.
Alex Holl It was a rather crude setup, really. Basically, it was a Mindstorms NXT with an ultrasonic sensor monitoring if a chair was about to enter the line. If so, and if it was too close to the one that left before it, the NXT would hold the conveyor system of the top terminal until the right spacing was reached.
I would like to point out that, off screen, the brick employees shown in this video are doing very important work. This is evidenced by the fact that, at 1:25 for example, they are having a passionate discussion on the exorbitant sum of money that LEGO charges for all the bricks that were ordered for this lift.
@TheTimmy376 I have been looking at different videos for Lego technic detachable lifts and this is by far the best one that I have seen, I was wondering if I could get some close up pictures for a parts order from Legos program pick-a-brick, My goal for 2023 is to build a detachable quad for my parents, I have showed them this video several times and they think it is amazing how close it is to the real thing. Thanks for your help if you can get back to me soon that would be great!
Here's the simple way: the receiver has four wires permanently attached to it. Cut off the brick at the end and connect the outer wires to a 9v DC adaptor. You can then add a switch between either wire and the adaptor to control the power flow to the receiver. (Actually, our control panel works on a 16v supply which powers the lights and a relay, which in turn controls the 9v supply. The top terminal's station mover can be controlled independently to allow it to be used as a chair hangar.)
wow I've just been on the real one of these and that is incredibly close to functioning. tip: if u could it would be awesome for your bars to move legolegend
Well it took about a month and a half with constant adjustments, redesigns and overhauls. Structurally though, it's a pretty straight-forward concept, so if you knew exactly how to build it you'd probably be done in one weekend :)
Great ! It works very well. But the wheels of the compression pylon are so big oO Couldn't you use four smaller wheels, like the other pylons, with some technic beams to guide the grip ? What maximal slope does the grip accept ? I made a detachable gondola with another grip system, and it supports a maximal slope of almost 45°. I think that I'll reproduce your system, which is less complicated than mine !
Thanks for your relpy ;) I think that the sheave trains I use could work well with this type of grip (they are espaced of four holes while the grip's wheels are espaced of five). Couldn't you use the small 2-axles, which have a "hole" instead of the big wheels of the grip ? I'm going to test that. This type of grip interests me a lot :) And sorry for my very bad english...
I thought the same thing but then realized this probably wasn't possible with the Lego scale. He'd need itty-bitty parts that clamp and unclamp and the track and all that. It would be a project for perhaps a 3D printer but not standard Lego bits.
It's totally and incredibly amazing !!! I would love to know more about the grip system. It is really just weels with rubbers like it looks like ? (like rubbers used for hair ?) Wich kind of rope did you used for that ? Thanks by advance for your answers ! I'm a huge fan !
I shall be making a model chairlift based on the "Schwarzhornseilbahn" lift. BUT: The grips wont detach like yours. Why? I wont make it out of legos plus your grip looks SO loose. Because it just sits on the rope like it is going to slip. So mine will use Garaventa grips. But oh well. I've seen this lots of times. I saw this before I had a channel...
Nice. One thing; the grip really doesn't slip as much as you might think, it can take an angle of 25 to 30 degrees without any problems. This is because the wheels that rest on the cable are lined with small rubber bands, providing the necessary friction to keep them in position. But a mechanically locking grip is certainly a better option if you're willing to put in the extra development effort, so go for it.
When the stations weren't properly aligned - yes, all the time. Otherwise, it was reasonably reliable. If a chair ever fell off, it was upon entering or exiting either terminal.
Hey dude! Nice job you done =) I have a question about construction. The chairs are getting attached to the rope like in the reallife chairlift or just hanging on it?
Hi Timmy376 - I'm a beginner builder, and I've made the ambitious goal of building a motorized ski lift for this Christmas. I'm ok with normal bricks, but the technic ones are not as familiar. I love your design, is there a way to get a list of parts?
+Julie Powers Sorry, there are no blueprints or parts listings for these lifts. We pretty much made it up as we went along, and occasionally ordered some extra parts from Lego's Pick-A-Brick service. If you want, I can go through my archives and see if I can find some of the old order documents, but what's in there doesn't begin to cover all the types of bricks that went into these designs. Would it help if I sent you some detailed images so you can pick out the bricks yourself?
+TheTimmy376 That would be amazing! What I'm really stuck on is what size wheels for the mid-lift poles, how the chairs attach to the wire, and then (since I am a beginner) how it's set up with the motor. I look at the list of technic parts on Bricklink, and just get overwhelmed. Thank you!!
Hi Spacegremlin, If you mean the sheaves found on the towers and in the terminals, the part is called "Hub Ø11,2 X 7,84", element ID 4211758. You can buy the part from the Pick-a-Brick service on the Lego website.
This should be made an official lego set. It's that good
Thats awesome. Tried so many times as a kid to build one
It's more than brilliant, without words.
Oh my god! This is the best thing i have ever seen on youtube! please tell me how did you do this or where can you buy it. This is amazing! Love it!!
Lol
I think he made it custom.
@pg5200: Regarding the maximum slope, it's between 25 and 30 degrees, depending on what rubber bands you use to line the grip wheels with. Pay attention to the towers though, since you need to make sure at least one of the grip wheels is in contact with the rope at all times, which is why the sheave trains are not equally spaced but arranged in a certain pattern (as seen in the video). The maximum deflection angle per sheave is very small.
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@pg5200: You're right about the compression sheaves, they are larger than we originally planned. There was no other way because the wheels on the grips are pretty large too. If we had made the compression sheave trains any smaller, the grips would simply collide with them instead of pushing them upwards.
I remember watching this! Cool LEGO creation!
Thanks! Feel free to check out our latest creation: th-cam.com/video/BBI0ig6VuQk/w-d-xo.html
This is amazing. I'd love to get the blueprints for it.
Great job! One of the best lifts I've ever seen. I'm working on a detachable gondola, and was wondering how you got the automatic line spacing.
Alex Holl It was a rather crude setup, really. Basically, it was a Mindstorms NXT with an ultrasonic sensor monitoring if a chair was about to enter the line. If so, and if it was too close to the one that left before it, the NXT would hold the conveyor system of the top terminal until the right spacing was reached.
Thanks for the info. I'll keep checking out your lifts as videos come out, you have some of the best ideas I've ever seen.
Alex Holl thanks
Cool. I was hoping for grasping wrists and graduated rubber wheel speed but this was awesome as heck.
Your models have been a great inspiration for me, next goal is to build a detachable lift.
As usual, the lifties are just standing around not doing shit.
Dope video man
I would like to point out that, off screen, the brick employees shown in this video are doing very important work. This is evidenced by the fact that, at 1:25 for example, they are having a passionate discussion on the exorbitant sum of money that LEGO charges for all the bricks that were ordered for this lift.
Very, very impressive. Might need to go for a job with Doppelmayr or Leitner-Poma after seeing the amount of detail you put into this.
@TheTimmy376 I have been looking at different videos for Lego technic detachable lifts and this is by far the best one that I have seen, I was wondering if I could get some close up pictures for a parts order from Legos program pick-a-brick, My goal for 2023 is to build a detachable quad for my parents, I have showed them this video several times and they think it is amazing how close it is to the real thing. Thanks for your help if you can get back to me soon that would be great!
can u make a tutorial on that please
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Here's the simple way: the receiver has four wires permanently attached to it. Cut off the brick at the end and connect the outer wires to a 9v DC adaptor. You can then add a switch between either wire and the adaptor to control the power flow to the receiver. (Actually, our control panel works on a 16v supply which powers the lights and a relay, which in turn controls the 9v supply. The top terminal's station mover can be controlled independently to allow it to be used as a chair hangar.)
wow
I've just been on the real one of these and that is incredibly close to functioning.
tip: if u could it would be awesome for your bars to move
legolegend
Id like to sea a functioning grip .
Why? The people move the bars in real life except for them heated chairs with the covers.
thats incredicble
It’s so awesome
You should make one for outdoors.
Well it took about a month and a half with constant adjustments, redesigns and overhauls. Structurally though, it's a pretty straight-forward concept, so if you knew exactly how to build it you'd probably be done in one weekend :)
Amazing work!
Hey Brother hows u?😊👌😉
That is very impressive. You deserve some sort of reward, and if you send it into lego, you might get a really good prize!
great vid got recommended again
beautiful
Friggen awesome. Good job!
Honestly needs more views, holy shit.
Thanks
Sehr Schön
YOU ARE A GENIUS!!!!!!!!!
HOLY CRAP THATS AWESOME
that is amazing you should go into the chair lift industry
+G Landia Haha thanks, I'm keeping all options open ;)
ha ha
+TheTimmy376 I have a question:
how do you make the rope ends together???
Creep503 lighter I presume
+Creep503 I weave sewing thread through both ends and superglue them together. Holds really well, never had one break ;)
Have you a instruction ? plese give in desciption
Hi, ich bin begeistert😍 Wie machst du die Klemmtechnik der Sessel?
Great !
It works very well. But the wheels of the compression pylon are so big oO
Couldn't you use four smaller wheels, like the other pylons, with some technic beams to guide the grip ?
What maximal slope does the grip accept ? I made a detachable gondola with another grip system, and it supports a maximal slope of almost 45°.
I think that I'll reproduce your system, which is less complicated than mine !
Thanks for your relpy ;)
I think that the sheave trains I use could work well with this type of grip (they are espaced of four holes while the grip's wheels are espaced of five).
Couldn't you use the small 2-axles, which have a "hole" instead of the big wheels of the grip ?
I'm going to test that. This type of grip interests me a lot :)
And sorry for my very bad english...
I would have never guessed that a chairlift has a fart switch.
Yes. There is also a Cough button, but public response to the latter has been decidedly negative lately.
@@TheTimmy376 Lol. Well played.
Id like to sea a functioning grip . i love the start warning and the use of the doplmeyer panle
I thought the same thing but then realized this probably wasn't possible with the Lego scale. He'd need itty-bitty parts that clamp and unclamp and the track and all that. It would be a project for perhaps a 3D printer but not standard Lego bits.
@@Nonplused ya and if u wer to make one how would you measure the grip force values jk
@@011CJ Either way an awesome model.
Nice lift =)
If you need details, send me your email address in a private message and I will make sure you get the blueprints.
Nice work
Thanks!
It's totally and incredibly amazing !!! I would love to know more about the grip system. It is really just weels with rubbers like it looks like ? (like rubbers used for hair ?) Wich kind of rope did you used for that ? Thanks by advance for your answers ! I'm a huge fan !
Thanks! Yes you are right, this "grip" was just laid onto the rope, which was 2mm nylon. How times have changed...
Hello Tim i love your builds. I make chair lifts just like you except i can seem too get mine to work can send me vid on how to make-won please please
It is, it's Lego Technic
Wow, it's much faster than you're old design, and the terminal is a modern design.
+Tucker Frank Thanks. We're working on a much bigger, faster and cooler system, so stay tuned everyone
+TheTimmy376 you should build a chondola.
+Tucker Frank I just might, who knows ;)
Could I get your blueprints I've spent years looking for the right lift
how did you get the control panel connected with the lego motors?
Can you send me the plans, I can't send a private message
I was thinking of trying to make one myself. I don't really know where to start though. Do you have any advice that might help?
where did u buy it? :D
What did he take for a string?
holy shit how do you do
Amazing
Impresionante.
how long did it take to make
I shall be making a model chairlift based on the "Schwarzhornseilbahn" lift. BUT: The grips wont detach like yours. Why? I wont make it out of legos plus your grip looks SO loose. Because it just sits on the rope like it is going to slip. So mine will use Garaventa grips. But oh well. I've seen this lots of times. I saw this before I had a channel...
Nice. One thing; the grip really doesn't slip as much as you might think, it can take an angle of 25 to 30 degrees without any problems. This is because the wheels that rest on the cable are lined with small rubber bands, providing the necessary friction to keep them in position. But a mechanically locking grip is certainly a better option if you're willing to put in the extra development effort, so go for it.
Yes. I thought the rubber bands tightened it.
Do you still have this built. Are you planning on making another one.
No, it was taken down a few weeks after completion. But we've built other lifts since, go to our channel to check them out.
ok ich hätte da schon einmal eine frage an Sie wie haben Sie das so stabiel hinbekommen?
Julian Brandner Try to keep the tension on the cable as high as your structure allows for.
Do the chairs ever fall off?
When the stations weren't properly aligned - yes, all the time. Otherwise, it was reasonably reliable. If a chair ever fell off, it was upon entering or exiting either terminal.
@@TheTimmy376 so I won’t get any lions head gondola flashbacks
C'est du génie!
perfect perfect
thanks
ah yes recommended
Hey dude! Nice job you done =) I have a question about construction. The chairs are getting attached to the rope like in the reallife chairlift or just hanging on it?
The chairs are getting laid on the rope and the rope is 2mm nylon
Hi Timmy376 - I'm a beginner builder, and I've made the ambitious goal of building a motorized ski lift for this Christmas. I'm ok with normal bricks, but the technic ones are not as familiar. I love your design, is there a way to get a list of parts?
+Julie Powers Sorry, there are no blueprints or parts listings for these lifts. We pretty much made it up as we went along, and occasionally ordered some extra parts from Lego's Pick-A-Brick service. If you want, I can go through my archives and see if I can find some of the old order documents, but what's in there doesn't begin to cover all the types of bricks that went into these designs. Would it help if I sent you some detailed images so you can pick out the bricks yourself?
+TheTimmy376 That would be amazing! What I'm really stuck on is what size wheels for the mid-lift poles, how the chairs attach to the wire, and then (since I am a beginner) how it's set up with the motor. I look at the list of technic parts on Bricklink, and just get overwhelmed. Thank you!!
Julie Powers
No problem. If you send me your email address in a private message, I'll see if I can dig up some pictures
cool
can someone tell me wich partnumber the wheels are wich the cable, moves on thanks
Hi Spacegremlin,
If you mean the sheaves found on the towers and in the terminals, the part is called "Hub Ø11,2 X 7,84", element ID 4211758. You can buy the part from the Pick-a-Brick service on the Lego website.
Yes thats what i meant thanks.
fckn genius
Where can I buy this?
You… cant
ok thanks
what typer of rope do you use?
2mm diameter nylon
congratulations on too thin it takes a lot lego technic
I have a parched this item
interesting at min : 1:31 - 1:42
Wo kann man das kaufen
The lift was built from scratch. We got the pieces from lots of LEGO kits accumulated over a long time.
You wouldn't have any instructions on how to make a simple chair lift for a science project?
No, sorry, I made these without blueprints
Okay. Thanks anyway.
you make good vidios
thank you
ich hab auch ne bahn gebaut abrt ist kaputt gegangen und deshalb probiere ich nocheine bahn zu bauen aber deine bahn is der Hammer ;-) :-) :-) :-) :-)
Hi Timmy!
Can you speak German or is English better, because I want to get in touch with you, because your designs are that great.
Thanks Chris
That's how we do;)
Nice :)
Sad but cool :-)
Supergeil.
WTF cool
How???? 🤣 Amazing
Perfekte bahn ich wúrde sie kaufen wenn du willst fúr mindestens 80 euro sogar noch mehr
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cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!😃😃😃😃😃😃😃😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉😉☺☺
WOW!!! :D
wow!!!! :)
Trial and a lot of error :)
omg
Those grips are as bad as YAN's. Great job though!
definitely not legos.
Fahrt XD
What is this? A chairlift for ants?
No sir. Its intended clientele obviously consists of LEGO figures.
hey richtig cool falls du mir ein paar tipps geben könntest skype: jul_zockt währe cool wenn das gehen würde
I really don't have the time on my hands for videoconferencing. But if you have any specific questions, feel free to ask here.