I managed to handle Turn A's awkwardness (and liked it by the end), and Reconguista's seemingly completely different set of common sense than ours, but I couldn't take SD Gundam Force. Didn't even reach episode 10. Those CGI human things are ruining it for me. It's the only Gundam series I can't finish. On the other hand, I really enjoyed Brave Battle Warriors.
@@TheRibbonRed my horrifying theory is that those sentient SD Mobile Suits are basically the human pilot and the MS merged into a new single organism as a messed up version of the next stage of human evolution..........
You also see newer technology getting smaller in real life, for exactly the same reason why MS get smaller during the stagnation period. Modern computers have gone from taking up a whole room to fitting in your pocket in under a hundred years.
Exactly. The funny thing is, while many argue that the size makes giant mecha unrealistic, it is actually the opposite if you want to take into account realistic tech into consideration, especially the power plant/engine. And what's funnier is that the smaller a mecha is, the more unrealistic it is because they'd use pseudo-magic power source that magically doesn't deal with byproducts such as heat. The power source issue is something that Tomino himself has considered and even then he has to take some leeway by making the nuclear reactor of MS the size of a fridge. Heck, people actually don't realize that Tomino uses the average size of fighter jets as standard for MS. The 18 meter average of MS? Yeah, real life fighter jet is around the same. We already have a giant weapon in use. Only reason why people don't see fighter jets being giant is because well, they move differently.
@@secondsein7749, it's also a fact that jet fighters have a design limitation that became clear to see with aircraft design history, wingspan has limits (practical such as hangar sizes and airfields, physics because larger a bird is, more wingspan necessary in a ratio close to SquareCube law, and maneuverability depends on size and aerodynamic issues with size). A Bipedal mech is a monster that's unrealistic for mass military use even in space, they don't fit any role any other more dedicated platform or that a MBT or Jet aircraft doesn't fit already, they're maintenance and resource eaters (which makes for UC MS looks like even less practical as both Zeon and Earth Federation are reliant on WHATEVER they can get from asteroids and other sources in the solar system, so wasting so much of the minerals collected and refined in space for a subpar weapon system role wise), and even if Minorvsk particles made several weapons less than useful (Laser guided Missiles, Wireless drones, radar, laser pings...) In a MS infested battlefield, there's still quite enough ways to circumvent them (Wire guided ATGMs, it's a wire, so Minorvsk particles can't do anything, AT minefields on Ground, any MS losing a foot or leg in a ground battle is dead prey already...)
@@zakhaevshub4735 in short: F91 with the MEPE and BioComputer wins over Victory. But if you omitted those system from the F91, Victory is going to triumph upon it.
4:32 Well the GM Custom was simply too expensive and was in fact a limited production MS. It also is built from the Alex as opposed to the GMII which only really has slight generator, sensor and speed upgrades. I really believe the GM Custom was a more responsive and agile MS with excellent joints that it inherited from the Alex. +Kakarot197 I definitely agree on your anime footage argument but a GMII could never compete with the speedy GP01 fb but yet a GM Custom can. Excellent video Kakarot I love these questions and how interactive they are, keep up the good work man.
MS technology being smaller reminds me how in star wars, some of the tech like the big bulky Arc 170 were phased out in favor of smaller craft like the x-wing and the tie fighter.
The x-wing isnt small though? Its 12.5m long vs tge arc-170s 12.71m. Compared to say an a-wing or tie intercepter its still pretty big and heavy, as a general roll/heavy fighter compared to intercepters.
@@robertharris6092 i mean, i figured the arc 170 is an absolute unit because of its usage of 3 crew members and an astromech droid. That alone takes up alot of space already so I can see income desingers "simplifying " things by just having one cockpit only.
Zeon's MS development had years head-start over the Earth Federation Forces and was continuing to advance over the course of the war; EFF's Project V was an attempt to leap-frog over Zeon's development plans by combining several innovations into one suit (Gundam) & then slimming/streamlining it for mass-producing (GM) to invade Zeon. Zeon eventually caught up but the Gelgoog, Kampfer, Galbaldy, etc were too little too late.
The story of the "Fighter Mafia" in US weapons development is a nice parallel to the smaller mobile suits. A smaller vehicle allows you to shrink the denominator of the thrust-to-weight ratio and get something with much better acceleration and maneuverability. Explaining why smaller mobile suits would kick so much butt.
bunny fever? :P lol,nah jk. the hazel was developed from the gm quel, in fact the original hazel was just an experiment in psycological warfare. they literally just plopped a gundam head on a regular gm quel to scare opponents. after that they developed the hazel custom and... well, thats where things get fuzzy for me too... ik that all the hazel variations (the TR series) were testbeds for technology that would later be incorporated into other suits, but as for what was going through their heads when they designed some of the... uhhh, stranger looking suits like the hazen'thlay or the woundwart... idk.
@@canisarcani The Hazel having a Gundam Head was an after thought and only done because they had spare parts from the GP-0X series. It was mainly a test to create a high mobility and semi-modular mobile suit. The Hazel Custom incorporated and refined the Hazel's enhancement parts further into the base mobile suit making them less add-on and more integral to the MS. The Modular concept was further refined into the Limited Production Woundwort as a way to create 1 machine to fulfill all possible combat roles.
@@Greyhoundsniper It is essentially the same idea as the Dendrobium built from two support units. And IIRC included something akin to UC era's equivalent to Mobile Dolls (G-Wing) or Mobile Bits (AWGX) for its Kehaar II escorts.
Actually another Real Life reason for f91 suits (specially the Gundam) being smaller is Tomino did it to spite Bandai as he figured make it smaller would make it harder to make toys out of it
@@TheTitoUgo G Gundam was the better middle finger, a series full of Gundams but only a handful that are marketable. I am still waiting on my transforming windmill bandai!
Tomino was the one who made the call to shrink down MSs, but toy sales and spiting Bandai didn't have anything to do with it. It was because he thought making the mobile suits smaller would make scenes where both humans and mobile suits were in the same frame easier to storyboard. He actually intended for them to be _even smaller_ at 10 meters, before Bandai had him compromise at 15 meters.
It wouldn't have made any difference because by the time the Alex was even shipped off for testing, the war was basically all but over. At most Amuro would have been even better equipped for A Baoa Qu, but as far as the One Year War goes it wouldn't have really changed much as Zeon had all but lost by that point. However, it might have changed some key things in the long run. Namely, if Amuro had managed to actually kill Char (big hypothetical, as Zeong was no pushover machine either.) thanks to his better machine that would have obviously had crazy ramifications for future events. It might have had a plethora of effects on the events *inside* A Baoa Qu, like Village Idiot said. If the Alex wasn't wrecked by the end of the fight, Amuro might not even have had a reason to go inside. IF he still felt compelled to pursue Char though, then things could get interesting depending on if the Alex is relatively in one piece. If it is, the events are basically the same except Amuro flies out in a cool Gundam instead of whats left of it. If not though, the Alex lacks a core block system which well, might have spelled doom for him. Also, IF Char were killed or unable to continue inside A Baoa Qu, there'd be no one to save Sayla Mass. A lot of small little things could have happened, hell things might have gone exactly the same more or less, but as far as the One Year War goes it didn't really matter.
How did Char go from a well-meaning soldier and a father figure to Kamille during the Gryps war, to rejoining Neo Zeon and attempting nuclear winter on the Earth during CCA? Did he really lose his faith in humanity to such an extreme?
He joined the AEUG specifically to stop the titans from killing spacenoids. That was really all he was there for. Char thinks the earth chains the human spirit to the old ways (corruption, greed) and needs to be destroyed, period. Read Char's deleted affair manga to get good insight on chars state of mind.
It was exactly the fact that he was a father figure to Kamille that this happened. What happened to Kamille essentially made Char lose all hope in the people on Earth
Economical reasons, mire powerful powerplant means more resources spent for each, meaning nuclear fuel for that is also going to go in larger quantities... It also depends heavily on how much the extra power would improve each MS model, guess the Federation didn't see a larger power output on that MS to be an improvement large enough to justify that (reasons could include that the specs for the Mass production didn't put high energy consuming weapons, loadout of said MS not requiring such amount or be because the energy would be wasted more than used by every system).
@@andrehashimoto8056 did you forget this is the mass production double zeta where talking about. Key word being double zeta with high mega-canon and all. If that isn't a weapon that requires a lot of energy, but only so much in a short burst. Then I don't know what would be.
@@andrehashimoto8056 also if its recourses what is axis made of platinum. On that note where dose neo-zeon get it's money. The A.E.U.G. needed backing from multiple colonies before anaheim would even talk to theme.
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Also....... where did the Doven wolfs go in Chars counterattack? P.S I haven’t watched ZZ yet so I’m might be asking a dumb Question
GM II was a system-wide upgrade to the original GMs and its variants. Standardizing the logistics chain. GM custom was one of many test beds for changing technology, i.e. bridging the gap between the GM and the original Gundam. At least, thats how i see it.
True. The GM Custom in 0083 had specs that exceeded the RX-78-2 Gundam in every respect but armor (it had 80-90% of the armor protection of the Gundam), and the GM II technically had higher specs than it, marking the point where a mass-production mobile suit finally outclassed the Gundam AND was actually mass-produced instead of limited to aces and commanders.
Keep it up guy. Your one of the only people on youtube still doing gundam lore!! Also they need to remake the entire gundam series in chronological order 0079 zeta ect.
anothere possible explanation for the shirnking of suits in later UC could also be that by that point, beam weaponry has advanced and become common to the point that seemingly any direct hit to the torso of a suit is likely to cause terminal damage to a suit and pilot, and out-armouring the now common beam weaponry isn't really working anymore. So, suddenly you start to get an incentive to make suits that are smaller, lighter and more agile, harder targets to spot and hit
Andre Hashimoto most custom made suits aren’t meant to be massed, more of a one person thing, like the byarlent or the efreet. Others like the m’queve custom gouf, or the white dingo team, those are just specifically for the unit, and not mass as it might be situational based suits, or ace units
There two kind of custom unit. Custom unit based on how pilot tuning or customize their MS (example: zaku II char or gaza c Haman karn). Other one limited mass production unit that basically upgraded version from original MS (example GM custom, Jesta), these unit only given to limited group of veteran or elite pilot
Your facts are good. But not fully accurate. Yes the GM Custom was a machine favored by the AEUG. But that was early on before they got significant backing. They initially had to rely on stolen, junk and surplus MS. The GM Custom at it's core was ruggedly durable. The GM Quel was not, as it cheapened the design by weakening the frame and decreasing the armor. Granted the GM Quel's torso and arm designs provided the foundation for the Movable Frame, and it's sensor system was kickass for it's time. But the GM II successfully mass produced nearly all of the best performance aspects of the previous models of GM from the OYW while using the original GM's base frame. The GM II was more adaptable than the GM Quel. It could operate in ground or space without the 10% parts differential previous MP GMs required. Which is why the GM II didn't get a lot of variants. Even the GM III has much more canon variants than the GM II. The GM Customs that continued to be used by the AEUG more than likely were put through next gen conversions. Parts from the GM II and even the Hizack could have been grafted in to give them improved sensors, generators, and cockpits. Which could have improved them enough to be better than GM IIs. But only until the release of the Nemo, which became their mainstay MP MS. Units favored by commanders were also at times just used to give or relay orders out in the field instead of fighting in front with the rest. Which was something that happened with the Zaku 1 occasionally during the OYW. The GM Custom was a great all around machine. But the GM Quel was primarily designed to operate in space and in the colonies. In the Katana Manga the Titans were shown using GM Kai painted in their colors because of this. The problems with the GM Quel were corrected too little too late, and they were decommissioned out of their association with the Titans instead of being converted into better machines. This led to them being purchased and upgraded by private security corporations like Themis, which gave them at least GM II level specs and panoramic 360 cockpits.
Why is there a lack of a Brigadier rank in the EFF? Aside from the obvious reasons of being based on Imperial Japanese ranks, why in-universe wouldn't an all-Earth military have this rank especially since most countries have it?
My guess is that, as the EFF primarily uses naval ranks, and the Navy technically only has three General Officer ranks (Rear Admiral is divided into two ranks), the EFF likely eliminated the Brigadier General to match. The real life reason is that in the Japanese military, there is no one-star rank in the JGSDF (they completely lack the NATO OF-6 rank). The ranks go from Colonel to Major General, skipping the Brigadier General altogether.
One thing you have to take into consideration is that the GM Custom and GM Quel would not be vanilla units by the time of the Gryps Conflict. They would more than likely be updated to keep pace with newer machines. They may have even been advanced enough in their updates to match the GMII by the time of Gryps.
1) Great video as always! 2) Personal favourite Build Fighters Variant? 3) Personal Favourite Weapon? 4) What was general idea for the use of transforming mobile suits?
One of small gundam I know is Crossbone. That thing is 15.9m head height compared to Nu's 23m head height. I know that partial reason why Crossbone was small was to overcome Jupiter's gravity, but it was surprising when I compared them after building HGs. And I am surprised that Victory has 15.2m head height. I wonder if mobile suits including gundams would've become exoskeleton armor like MS Girl Note without butterfly.
I would like if they do the side stories characters from de one year war except de missing link... Anyway because I find them really amazing hafe most of de characters on a ship team on SD gundam g generation genesis ps4 there stories are good and also de gundam uc 81 is also cool
Side story of a Federation armor squad fighting and escaping from California during the early days of the OYW and fighting afterwards. Then as they survived for so long, they receive some of the first GMs, Mass produced guntanks and so on. So essentially band of brothers
Actually, it was during the events of Gundam Unicorn that the first generation of small mobile suits were being built and fielded in the form of the D-50C Loto. The Loto was the first mobile suit designed and built by the newly formed SNRI (formed in 0093). Also even after Unicorn, mobile suits were still getting bigger. during the Mafty incident in UC 0105 (Hathaway's flash), we have the Xi Gundam and Penelope Gundam which towers over everything else at 28m and 32.5m respectively, and being very bulky as well. But the bulkiness probably have something to do with the artist who also has a hand in drawing the mechs for the Zeorymer series which are comparably massive as well. And there is also the passing mention of the Mars Zeon forces in UC 0120 in Gundam F90 where they are using upsized variants of the Zaku, Dom, and Gelgoog. Basically the Mobile Suit Gundam universe is doing the same thing we are doing in the real world by miniaturizing technology by making them more powerful and smaller at the same time. it's just that trying to miniaturize something as large as a mobile suit takes years to perfect.
Tomino also disliked the late 80s trend of increasing MS sizes; this was mostly pushed by Bandai to make engineering the models easier so he specifically insisted F91 and V use smaller MS in response. It was his latest "this is more realistic" kick. Once the bubble economy crash caught up with Bandai however, the decreased engineering budgets + decreased model sizes made for a recession of crappy kits well until the 2000s HGUC/MG lines.
There is another in-universe explanation for the MS getting smaller. An absurd amount of Helium-3 got destroyed by the Sinanju Stein and the Neo-Zeong.
That's just one storage station. In most case its cost saving with armor and reactors being easier to build smaller and more powerful. As Jupiter still has a decent store of refined helium 3 for shipping to earth sphere.
One reason the AEUG would make use of the GM Custom would be that ace pilots who defected brought there GM Customs with them. However over time they would have to probably switch to GM II's since over time spare parts would start to become harder to obtain for the GM Custom. Although depending on when they would be forced to switch some of the former GM Custom pilots could switch to the newer Nemo.
@@SuperFeatherYoshi not prototype. All three FAZZ build using spare parts from gundam ZZ (similiar with gundam ground type) and originally mean for testing full armor system for gundam ZZ. Several feature like transformation system and weapon in it's forehead removed to speed up building time
@@SuperFeatherYoshi perhaps what you mean prototype for full armor system? Because if i am not wrong there already exist prototype zz gundam. gundam.fandom.com/wiki/MSZ-009_Prototype_ZZ_Gundam
@@yoshuasidharta4685And FAZZ having the big ass cannon to carry!!! I can only see that as a support/artillery unit!! Otherwise they WILL get shred easily!!!!
I have a theory that the GM custom and Quell have on the GM II was their customizable attributes and maybe even maneuverability, because the GM II might not have the magnetic coating of the frame
The GM II is basically an even more mass production GM Quel. Probably using newer parts to mimic the propulsion layout and general performance of the Quel. Which itself is a simplified version of the Custom. The Custom has way more maneuvering propulsion units all over it. The Quel seemingly strips them out or replaces them with more basic ones. Like the Custom shoulders have propulsion units facing in multiple directions. It's how Burning is able to pull off that sudden stop against the Gelgoog Marines. The Quel lacks those forward facing propulsion units and so would not be able to pull off the same move. So it would make sense for AEUG veterans to want to use it over a GM II. Especially since it seems they were able to give them beam rifles. Which was really the only thing holding them back from being outright superior.
I'd imagine that the square cube law also exists in Gundam. A smaller mobile suit would have less volume, and thus less overall mass. With less mass to move, your actuators would enjoy a performance increase without having to increase the power of the actuators themselves, combine that with more powerful and compact reactors, and you get F91's smaller high performance MS that outclass the obsolete Jegan in every way.
I think the real reason is because technology advanced with time to the point they were able to find ways to make things smaller. We've seen this happen in real life; Cell phones, display monitors, PCs, game consoles, cars, radios, etc. The reason mobile suits got bigger was most likely due to newer technologies being introduced. As a result, in order to fit the new tech, they had to make the mobile suits bigger. It's a very similar scenario to cars. Cars were somewhat small due to limitations, then they got bigger in the 20th century when new tech was being installed, and now cars have so much tech yet aren't always big.
GM Sniper II was limited produced and has a higher production cost during the late war. Many of them were destroyed and since its also a high spec MS, they were mostly given to the ace pilot. I still believe some of them survived the war (white dingo story). The latest entry one modernized GM Sniper II deployed by Titan got taken out by Char mens according to Ana Log.
As far as I remember, the GM Sniper II's that were developed in the OYW were used in the Gryps War. It's just that there were an extremely small amount of them made and production stopped due to each of the machines being extremely expensive due to each of them being as or more powerful than the Gundam. Don't worry, they got their service taking out ships in the Gryps War. Also in my opinion, GM Custom has more flair in its design than the GM Sniper II but the GM Sniper II is better at range.
MS with specific use like gm sniper often only produced in limited number. All gm sniper variant build using frame from it general use version. Like gm sniper ii is build by converted gm command frame and command itself already only produced in limited number
Question: What do you think would have happened if the (first) Gundam was stolen by Zeon/Char during the One Year War and use it against the Federation? Do you think the symobolic purposes it had would have been a crippling blow to the Federation and maybe have given Zeon a chance to beat the Federation in the war
Considering Hathaway's Flash is soon-to-be-canon (thanks to the movies coming out), you may want to revise your statement about when suit development peaked in terms of scale and size. Beyond CCA and Unicorn, we see that the last true monsters of the "big suit" era were yet to come. There's still the massive Xi Gundam (26 m) and the Penelope (32 m) in UC 105, as well as big grunts like the Gustav Karl (22 m) and Messer (23 m). That's almost a full ten years after Unicorn, so it pushes the timeline back further before the wave of miniaturization.
@@barrybend7189 its almost a century worth of advancement, saying that a zaku 2 can keep up with the X-0 is like saying the first tank can keep up with the Abrams.
@@tomtheconqerur considering this Zaku 2 might have been upgraded with an Amakatsu tech( as its seen holding a beam rifle) like how a Gelgoog was upgraded with a Nemo frame.
This may or may not be cannon but I thought the GM custom used telemetry data taken straight from Amuro's Rx-78-2 because it was a direct descendant machine. Where the GM 2 was an all new design (although it looked similar) so it couldn't use this exact data set. That targeting and flight data could make all the difference to give older, experienced commanders an edge over recruits in GM 2s.
Don't forget the Loto was used as a test bed for a miniaturized reactor and that technology would be incorporated in later mobile suits. As for the GM Custom and GM Quel... From what it seems it might be that the GM Custom had better sensor and communications quality/resolution/accuracy but less range than the GMII while also having a drastically higher price tag.
A lot of performance differences can be made up with tuning and balance, along with unmentioned numbers. For example, if the GM-II had an issue where aiming its gun to its lower left quadrant caused instability and loss of control because armor placement made it top-heavy, while the GM Custom lacked those armor plates, enemy tactics would recognize and exploit the design flaw. The GM-II technically had better overall performance and armor, but had exploitable holes in actual combat.
Here's my question: If you were to be a MS pilot, where would you like to be assigned? In atmosphere or space? And would you like to be with a whole army or just a squadron in a fight (like the Acguys from Thunderbolt Bandit Flower were each MS has a role)?
Atmosphere, four-man squad. Being covered by allies and such is a lot more effective when you're not vulnerable from every angle. Not to mention, all the truly big battles happen in space... no thanks. I might love being a pilot, and I would fight for my cause, but I'm not suicidal. I'll wait until I've got a Gundam for that!
i said this in that video as well, "spec" is only half of the story. a car can have a better spec than another, but be less reliable, or underperform under stress. then there's the whole "spec salesman" aspect, where the unit could be said to perform X, but only does so in VERY specific situations(ie. lab tests).
Could also be elements like technology DID get better during the production of the GM II--such as more efficient reactors, computers, etc--but the GM Custom or GM Quel may have had better performing boosters, less limters, and heavier armor. Not unlike how the F-22 had a lot of advanced technology, but the F-35 had a far better computer system because computers in general had advanced substantially over 5-10 years.
Where does the fuel for the mobile suit's thrusters stored? I would assume that with all the machineries inside a mobile suit body there would be little space left for fuel.
I always wondered why mobile suits needed prepellant...if you have a reactor why couldn't that just be assumed to be powerful enough to power the thrusters too.
@@Bryan921SS1, because it's a NUCLEAR fusion reactor, trying to move an 18-14 meter tall MS with just PURE energy output is more waste than use, plus there's clear issue with expelling energy created from a Nuclear reaction process (even the sun, OUR BIGGEST Nuclear Fusion reactor leaks leftover radiation as well), imagine that when you're fighting INSIDE a space colony, where their air and atmosphere are enclosed and depends on colony systems to keep it as hospitable as possible... If every time a Colony gets a MS fight inside it ends with a ton of radiation and radioactive isotopes in their air, the colony project would have died already, or considering how certain battles on earth happened, Earth would be FILLED with Chernobyl esque zones
If you watched unicorn you see a rezel have his leg shot off. And lots of liquids coming out, either it's general machinery liquid to keep the MS running or its fuel storage.
I r remember reading that another reason MS got smaller was it made them faster and more agile. Also because Beam Weaponry became so widespread, there wasn't a need for heavy bulky conventional armor and instead more anti-beam coating/I fields.
I would like to submit for consideration: When the Anaheim Lab Log, talks about the GM Custom being used as a commander unit . We don't know at what point in the conflict the entry is referring to. I know you said in a broad sense, it was used by commanders. But, I would assume that this would be true only during the opening weeks or months of conflict. At least until the AEUG gained enough backing to produce/buy more modern suits. I would understand if it was preferred by "older" unit commanders or second line units over the GM Kai or GMs that they may be operating, but not in front line units. I'm going to assume (as I have no evidence) that front line units would be assigned newest machines(GMII/Nemo) as they became available, regardless of the preference of the pilots themselves.
Question: What happens to old decommissioned mobile suits? We know that some of them end up as training machines or are transferred to less important bases. Are they sold to PMCs, sold back to producer for recycling or there is a massive MS graveyard somewhere?
There is als othe aspect that a smaller MS also means a smaller, harder to hit target, is easier to store ect. Size comes at a cost, after all. Kakarot: "my face is ok, but..." Me: "Don´t make a joke, DON´T MAKE A JOKE!"
The AEUG probably took whatever equipment it could get. My understanding is that the RGM-79N is a more expensive, more adaptable unit for special operations, whereas the GM II has somewhat better raw specs but is mainly more cost-effective, being basically a refit or upgrade of the original standard RGM-79.
I have a question: in my head-canon, mobile suits are painted so distinctively in order to work like a 'visual IFF', due to minovsky interference, supported by the fact that each model has it's own color scheme, and factions usually have their own color palettes (not sure if correct terms). Do you think I'm right?
A few things. 1. You can't always go by specs and hard numbers. Though it had a higher generator output, the GM-II was FAR less maneuverable than the GM Custom, as you note via it having inferior thrust. 2. Tools and only as good as the person using them. GM Customs were assigned to and requested by veteran and ace pilots for a reason. GM-II were the cliche cannon fodder suits for a reason. 3. The GM-II was generally seen as a failure by the military because it was essentially just a re-skinned RGM-79 GM with slight improvements. The custom is almost certainly a better mobile suit than the GM-II; however it was too expensive to justify production.
Luckily Turn A Gundam shows us after Victory Gundam suits got bigger again with Turn A being 20 meters. (Real life Turn A came out in 1999 when oil prices and shortages were over and Bandai could make large kits again).
0:33 in universe I noticed that MS started to get bigger by ZZ Gundam and this culminated in Hathaway's Flash with the Gundam Penelope and Xi being huge. Later Buch Concern created the Dessa Type MS which was a miniature worker MS. This mobile suit was as powerful as regular size MS but was small and more maneuverable. Buch Concern funded and controlled the Crossbone Vanguard which only used miniature MS while the Federation was still using a lot of upgraded Jeagan models and a few Heavyguns putting them in a disadvantage even though they had more MS and ships than the small Crossbone Vanguard pirate force
If you do your research, you'll find that in the Universal Century series, the GM 2 replaced the GM custom and the GM quells, because of cost, not because it was a better Mobilesuit. The GM custom and the GM quell, were limited production, again, because of cost
MS that bigger and taller also easy to spot like real life WW2 tanks. After WW2 a study conducted the most reason why tanks got killed, they found out from statistics most of them got shoot on the turret and conclude the height of the tank is the reason, the tanks get spot from exposed turret and become a target and get killed. From this study many Nations R&D create tanks with low silhouette and even from Swedish they remove the turret entirely and create Stridsvagn 103.
GM Custom is an older high performance machine, designed to be a stronger version of the GM, after OYW. GM II is the base GM upgraded with current gen technology, designed to be modern equivalent of the of the original GM, aka, a simple inexpensive MS, which is good enough. Nemo was Annaheim's GM knockoff, which was aimed to be higher performance alternative of GM II. Hyzack and Marosai were the modern versions of the Zaku II, Annaheim pursued it because they wanted to utilize the Ex-Zenioc assets.
To me the reason why they became smaller is because of these: 1. Beam Weaponry became the norm, mobility became a higher priority rather than defense. Aside that smaller target means better chance of enemy locking in on you and if they did, hits could become nearly hits. 2. Better technology, akin to Real Life, the technology allows having the same or better specs without being toi bulky. 3. Lastly, efficiency. It is more efficient to produce something smaller. Less time and resources needed for a complete product without sacrificing the MS integirity and specs.
It makes sense that the GM Custom and GM Quel would have advantages over the GM 2. A limited production machine will always have a few more tricks up it's sleeve than a full mass production machine.
I know this is video game trivia, but in the game Gihrens Ambition when you run the Gryps conflict as the AEUG the game starts you off with GM Customs, GM Cannon IIs and GM Sniper IIs (along with assorted other GMs), you start pre-development of the GM II. Once you produce the GM II you find that at a basic level its better than the Custom, but the Custom performs better with an ace inside. The GM II is also a fair bit cheaper to produce than the Custom making it more cost effective. I'd like to note the GM Cannon II is a superstar. Hizak compares favourably to the GM II and every GM is outmoded by the Nemo and Marasai. I find the universe reflects favourably on how the game depicts it. As for real world, commander unit vehicles tend to feature better communication suites, so its possible the GM Custom had better comms gear than a basic GM II. There could also be a lot of other soft facts that made the Custom a suitable unit for commanders that arent just raw performance such as battlefield endurance or having more accurate (if shorter range) sensors. You'll notice in Gundam that the highest performance units arent usually piloted by commanders and that commanders have other useful attributes outside of raw piloting skill.
Gundam battle operation 2 seems to agree with this assessment of the GMs. At level 1 the GM II is at a battle cost of 300 while the custom and the Quel are both at 400.
Can you explain, How does Zeta gundam or Zeta-type mobile suit fit an entire panoramic view-linear seat cockpit in the chest area, while we know that the chest unit is pretty much empty as it serves as the place to store the mobile suit's head unit in waverider mode (except the Re-GZ)
I appreciate and respect the gymnastics you went through to validate your opinion that your preferred mobile suit was totally better than its less appealing counterpart. GM Custom all day every day bb
Did some math. The GM II thrust to weight ratio is 1.06 vs GM Custom thrust to weight ratio 1.17. Or plainly the GM Custom should have more maneuverability than the GM II. At least on paper.
I can't remember where I read this but I saw an article once that said that the majority of GM-2's were converted from regular GM's and tended to underperform when compared to their specifications
There 2 version gm ii. First, any gm ii with model number RGM-79R is a direct conversion from original gm. Other with model number RMS-179, is brand new gm ii with original parts (not conversion from original gm). RMS-179 GM II has slight better performance compared to RGM-79R version but still lose against nemo.
Not sure how to word it as a question, but I had the thought about that, by the end of Zeta, the Gundam Mk-II had become old enough that it needed expansion to keep up performance. Thus the G-Defensor. But by the start of the First Neo Zeon War and the assembly of the Gundam Team, the Argama never got a replacement for that component. Think the Mk-II did get to reuse the Flying Armor, and then there was the Mega Rider, but it otherwise would have seemed the weakest of the team. Thoughts?
This is how I explain the GM Quel and custom to myself. GM ii is a basic refit of the GM after operation stardust where the federation lost a great deal of resources, Machines like the GM custom or Power GM were to expensive and complicated to mass produce for standard federation, so the Quel is used by the Titans who need top of the line and federation mostly uses GM ii, Titans at start of zeta are unchallenged and so over confidently have started Incorporating less powerful mobile suits like the GM ii, it’s backed up by no facts but it’s the way i think of it
I think a big problem (though a clever one from an overall writing standpoint) the factions all had was making mobile suits more designed specifically for raw power. Zeon failed at many things in their overly prototyped designs. But, what they did excel at was showing how effective mobile suits are when designed for a specific role or specialty. If they made a massive mobile suit or mobile armor, that was not due to dick-waving or wanting to throw a bigger rock but because its purpose necessitated a large size. If they made a mobile suit for fighting other mobile suits, it always proved overwhelming in its capabilities. They didn't simply make a bigger mobile suit, slap a bigger gun on it, and pat themselves on the back.
If I have give a reason for why the MS are getting smaller aside from economical and technological reason, it would be urban subjugation... especially the colony terrain subjugation. It would be far easier for a smaller MS to move between buildings, cut corners and and find a hiding spot between buildings should an urban subjugation is needed. This in particular would hold some amount of weight when we consider how Titans were more interested in colony harassment of spacenoids.
Hmm. Unicorn and NT make it look more like the technologies already reached their peak but people decided to seal them away after witnessing all the feats from the Unicorns
speaking of MS getting smaller as decades go by, same with cellphones, they were first massive unwieldy bricks which then became tiny pocket-sized then today we have smartphones which are flat as pancakes, lol.
@Yoshi thing that gets me is the reluctance to use said GPO2. Remember the mobile suit was developed after the Antarctic Treaty which banned nuclear weapons, chemical weapons and colony drops. It's the same with mobile suits that we're made with Mirage Colloid ability, their secret development had to become more secret
I think I found this at the wiki so source is unsure rn but I heard that another reason why MS' got smaller was because to a beam rifle, it doesn't matter how tough your armor is, you get hit, you're probably dead. So they decided to go use smaller frames and less armor to allow greater maneuverability, but that unfortunately made physical weapons strong again, hence the Crossbone Vanguard's Shot Lancer and the machine cannon from the F91
I have a basic question. Why does the MS-06J Zaku II Ground Type exist? Since the original F type can be used in both the atmosphere and in space, and the F Type had the leg thrusters which were dropped by the J Type, returned for the G Type based on the development of the Gouf, why didn't Zeon just mass produce the F-Type more?
Question: Who would win in a battle between the Gundam Meisters and the Wing Boys? Season 1 suits vs Pre-upgrade suits, Season 2 suits vs Post-upgrade suits
Is ZAFT's Second Stage Series meant to be used the same way as the Earth Alliance's G Project, where all five ZAFT Gundams (Impulse, Saviour, Gaia, Chaos, and Abyss) operated around the Minerva much like the G Project Gundams did to the Archangel?
GM Custom is also my favorite mobile suit from mobile suit Gundam Stardust memory. My favorite part is the GM Custom fought against the Gundam Zephyranthes.
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If the Dark History didn't happen, pretty sure Mobile Suits would become SDs so thank you, apocalyptic mustache robot.
Hey, SDs are pretty cool too!
At least, those that aren't alive.
@@TheRibbonRed *sd gundam force PTSD intensifies*
I managed to handle Turn A's awkwardness (and liked it by the end), and Reconguista's seemingly completely different set of common sense than ours, but I couldn't take SD Gundam Force. Didn't even reach episode 10. Those CGI human things are ruining it for me. It's the only Gundam series I can't finish.
On the other hand, I really enjoyed Brave Battle Warriors.
Having mobile suits boil down into power armor would be pretty cool and a nice throwback to Tomino's influence from Starship troopers
@@TheRibbonRed my horrifying theory is that those sentient SD Mobile Suits are basically the human pilot and the MS merged into a new single organism as a messed up version of the next stage of human evolution..........
You also see newer technology getting smaller in real life, for exactly the same reason why MS get smaller during the stagnation period. Modern computers have gone from taking up a whole room to fitting in your pocket in under a hundred years.
Exactly. The funny thing is, while many argue that the size makes giant mecha unrealistic, it is actually the opposite if you want to take into account realistic tech into consideration, especially the power plant/engine. And what's funnier is that the smaller a mecha is, the more unrealistic it is because they'd use pseudo-magic power source that magically doesn't deal with byproducts such as heat.
The power source issue is something that Tomino himself has considered and even then he has to take some leeway by making the nuclear reactor of MS the size of a fridge.
Heck, people actually don't realize that Tomino uses the average size of fighter jets as standard for MS. The 18 meter average of MS? Yeah, real life fighter jet is around the same. We already have a giant weapon in use. Only reason why people don't see fighter jets being giant is because well, they move differently.
But btw guys between F91 Vs V gundam which one that better ?
@@secondsein7749, it's also a fact that jet fighters have a design limitation that became clear to see with aircraft design history, wingspan has limits (practical such as hangar sizes and airfields, physics because larger a bird is, more wingspan necessary in a ratio close to SquareCube law, and maneuverability depends on size and aerodynamic issues with size).
A Bipedal mech is a monster that's unrealistic for mass military use even in space, they don't fit any role any other more dedicated platform or that a MBT or Jet aircraft doesn't fit already, they're maintenance and resource eaters (which makes for UC MS looks like even less practical as both Zeon and Earth Federation are reliant on WHATEVER they can get from asteroids and other sources in the solar system, so wasting so much of the minerals collected and refined in space for a subpar weapon system role wise), and even if Minorvsk particles made several weapons less than useful (Laser guided Missiles, Wireless drones, radar, laser pings...) In a MS infested battlefield, there's still quite enough ways to circumvent them (Wire guided ATGMs, it's a wire, so Minorvsk particles can't do anything, AT minefields on Ground, any MS losing a foot or leg in a ground battle is dead prey already...)
@@zakhaevshub4735 in short: F91 with the MEPE and BioComputer wins over Victory. But if you omitted those system from the F91, Victory is going to triumph upon it.
@@Doraiadowwww404 Hehehe nice answer bud I thought nobody can answer it 👌
*Sees Ace Combat Zero on the background chair*
"Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well."
4:32 Well the GM Custom was simply too expensive and was in fact a limited production MS. It also is built from the Alex as opposed to the GMII which only really has slight generator, sensor and speed upgrades. I really believe the GM Custom was a more responsive and agile MS with excellent joints that it inherited from the Alex. +Kakarot197 I definitely agree on your anime footage argument but a GMII could never compete with the speedy GP01 fb but yet a GM Custom can. Excellent video Kakarot I love these questions and how interactive they are, keep up the good work man.
MS technology being smaller reminds me how in star wars, some of the tech like the big bulky Arc 170 were phased out in favor of smaller craft like the x-wing and the tie fighter.
The arc-170 is most likely a predessor to the X-wing
The x-wing isnt small though? Its 12.5m long vs tge arc-170s 12.71m. Compared to say an a-wing or tie intercepter its still pretty big and heavy, as a general roll/heavy fighter compared to intercepters.
@@yazan727 it is. Along witg the z-95 headhunter.
@@robertharris6092 i mean, i figured the arc 170 is an absolute unit because of its usage of 3 crew members and an astromech droid. That alone takes up alot of space already so I can see income desingers "simplifying " things by just having one cockpit only.
Question:
When did Zeon MS’s get better than the original Gundam
Not very long.
The gelgoog is considered to be better than the gundam, except for armor
Gelgoog was slightly better than the RX-78-2 though that changed with later Gundam offshoots
@@SuperFeatherYoshi but take into account the thrust to mass ratio.
Zeon's MS development had years head-start over the Earth Federation Forces and was continuing to advance over the course of the war; EFF's Project V was an attempt to leap-frog over Zeon's development plans by combining several innovations into one suit (Gundam) & then slimming/streamlining it for mass-producing (GM) to invade Zeon. Zeon eventually caught up but the Gelgoog, Kampfer, Galbaldy, etc were too little too late.
The story of the "Fighter Mafia" in US weapons development is a nice parallel to the smaller mobile suits. A smaller vehicle allows you to shrink the denominator of the thrust-to-weight ratio and get something with much better acceleration and maneuverability. Explaining why smaller mobile suits would kick so much butt.
Question:
What was going on with the Titans and their prototype mobile suits?
bunny fever? :P
lol,nah jk. the hazel was developed from the gm quel, in fact the original hazel was just an experiment in psycological warfare. they literally just plopped a gundam head on a regular gm quel to scare opponents. after that they developed the hazel custom and... well, thats where things get fuzzy for me too... ik that all the hazel variations (the TR series) were testbeds for technology that would later be incorporated into other suits, but as for what was going through their heads when they designed some of the... uhhh, stranger looking suits like the hazen'thlay or the woundwart... idk.
The Titans smoked too much space dust
Tr-6 Inle is a abomination
@@canisarcani The Hazel having a Gundam Head was an after thought and only done because they had spare parts from the GP-0X series. It was mainly a test to create a high mobility and semi-modular mobile suit.
The Hazel Custom incorporated and refined the Hazel's enhancement parts further into the base mobile suit making them less add-on and more integral to the MS.
The Modular concept was further refined into the Limited Production Woundwort as a way to create 1 machine to fulfill all possible combat roles.
@@Greyhoundsniper It is essentially the same idea as the Dendrobium built from two support units. And IIRC included something akin to UC era's equivalent to Mobile Dolls (G-Wing) or Mobile Bits (AWGX) for its Kehaar II escorts.
Actually another Real Life reason for f91 suits (specially the Gundam) being smaller is Tomino did it to spite Bandai as he figured make it smaller would make it harder to make toys out of it
Which actually doesn't really matter because Bandai keep making F91 and F90 gunpla anyway....
@@TheTitoUgo G Gundam was the better middle finger, a series full of Gundams but only a handful that are marketable. I am still waiting on my transforming windmill bandai!
Tomino was the one who made the call to shrink down MSs, but toy sales and spiting Bandai didn't have anything to do with it. It was because he thought making the mobile suits smaller would make scenes where both humans and mobile suits were in the same frame easier to storyboard. He actually intended for them to be _even smaller_ at 10 meters, before Bandai had him compromise at 15 meters.
Question: How would the One Year War have been impacted if the Alex was given to Amuro?
Christopher Blair it probably would’ve ended quicker since the Alex had a better arsenal and was more responsive
Joseph Joestar true but the Alex probably would’ve survived the battle since it was better armed and had the chobium armor
It wouldn't have made any difference because by the time the Alex was even shipped off for testing, the war was basically all but over. At most Amuro would have been even better equipped for A Baoa Qu, but as far as the One Year War goes it wouldn't have really changed much as Zeon had all but lost by that point.
However, it might have changed some key things in the long run. Namely, if Amuro had managed to actually kill Char (big hypothetical, as Zeong was no pushover machine either.) thanks to his better machine that would have obviously had crazy ramifications for future events. It might have had a plethora of effects on the events *inside* A Baoa Qu, like Village Idiot said. If the Alex wasn't wrecked by the end of the fight, Amuro might not even have had a reason to go inside. IF he still felt compelled to pursue Char though, then things could get interesting depending on if the Alex is relatively in one piece. If it is, the events are basically the same except Amuro flies out in a cool Gundam instead of whats left of it. If not though, the Alex lacks a core block system which well, might have spelled doom for him.
Also, IF Char were killed or unable to continue inside A Baoa Qu, there'd be no one to save Sayla Mass. A lot of small little things could have happened, hell things might have gone exactly the same more or less, but as far as the One Year War goes it didn't really matter.
In the novels Amuro got the G-3 instead, it can handle Amuro's ungodly piloting skills better than Magnetic Coating IIRC.
Joseph Joestar true. The only thing it might change is Amuro possibly killing char
How did Char go from a well-meaning soldier and a father figure to Kamille during the Gryps war, to rejoining Neo Zeon and attempting nuclear winter on the Earth during CCA? Did he really lose his faith in humanity to such an extreme?
He joined the AEUG specifically to stop the titans from killing spacenoids. That was really all he was there for. Char thinks the earth chains the human spirit to the old ways (corruption, greed) and needs to be destroyed, period. Read Char's deleted affair manga to get good insight on chars state of mind.
Yg there's video in zeta gundam game char route ending explaining it
@@lordukyoare you talking about Gundam vs Zeta Gundam by chance? If so, I believe that you are talking about the Universal Century mode.
It was exactly the fact that he was a father figure to Kamille that this happened. What happened to Kamille essentially made Char lose all hope in the people on Earth
GM Custom is my favorite GM.
The GMs don't get a lot of love. My favourite GM is the GM Sniper 2 but the GM Custom is next on the list.
Does blue destiny 1 count? That thing's head is from a gm
Gm sniper
Señor Stabbyhands nice ryoma pfp
You FOOLS the best GM is the base GM!
Kakarot 197:ms get smaller
Psycho Gundam: hold my beer
That's a mobile armor
I know I'm getting whooshed
Are you now entertainet
That was made during the era when MS were getting bigger.
@@speedstriker it's a joke ok sped striker it's a joke
Neo Zeong: Hold my 6 cans of beers
Why wasn't the mass production zz given a better reactor. When neo zeon could afford to produce the insanely powerful Doven Wolf?
yeah they should reused Doven Wolf's reactor & put it on there :v
Economical reasons, mire powerful powerplant means more resources spent for each, meaning nuclear fuel for that is also going to go in larger quantities...
It also depends heavily on how much the extra power would improve each MS model, guess the Federation didn't see a larger power output on that MS to be an improvement large enough to justify that (reasons could include that the specs for the Mass production didn't put high energy consuming weapons, loadout of said MS not requiring such amount or be because the energy would be wasted more than used by every system).
@@andrehashimoto8056 did you forget this is the mass production double zeta where talking about. Key word being double zeta with high mega-canon and all. If that isn't a weapon that requires a lot of energy, but only so much in a short burst. Then I don't know what would be.
@@andrehashimoto8056 also if its recourses what is axis made of platinum. On that note where dose neo-zeon get it's money. The A.E.U.G. needed backing from multiple colonies before anaheim would even talk to theme.
Also....... where did the Doven wolfs go in Chars counterattack?
P.S I haven’t watched ZZ yet so I’m might be asking a dumb Question
GM II was a system-wide upgrade to the original GMs and its variants. Standardizing the logistics chain. GM custom was one of many test beds for changing technology, i.e. bridging the gap between the GM and the original Gundam. At least, thats how i see it.
True. The GM Custom in 0083 had specs that exceeded the RX-78-2 Gundam in every respect but armor (it had 80-90% of the armor protection of the Gundam), and the GM II technically had higher specs than it, marking the point where a mass-production mobile suit finally outclassed the Gundam AND was actually mass-produced instead of limited to aces and commanders.
Keep it up guy. Your one of the only people on youtube still doing gundam lore!! Also they need to remake the entire gundam series in chronological order 0079 zeta ect.
anothere possible explanation for the shirnking of suits in later UC could also be that by that point, beam weaponry has advanced and become common to the point that seemingly any direct hit to the torso of a suit is likely to cause terminal damage to a suit and pilot, and out-armouring the now common beam weaponry isn't really working anymore. So, suddenly you start to get an incentive to make suits that are smaller, lighter and more agile, harder targets to spot and hit
Let's not forget the Hatahway's Flash suits. Those were all gigantic compared to normal mobile suits.
QUESTION: Why there are so many "Custom" mobile suits?, or rather Why they are called "custom"?
Eric T. Miyahira it means they are customized to each pilots taste, or modified just for them, like char’s zaku having its limiters removed
@@hyperion2109, problem with it comes when there's a bunch of units with Custom in name but that reached battalion sized production at least...
@@andrehashimoto8056 Haha. You mean when there's so many of the same custom unit, the customization is technically standardized by that point?
Andre Hashimoto most custom made suits aren’t meant to be massed, more of a one person thing, like the byarlent or the efreet. Others like the m’queve custom gouf, or the white dingo team, those are just specifically for the unit, and not mass as it might be situational based suits, or ace units
There two kind of custom unit. Custom unit based on how pilot tuning or customize their MS (example: zaku II char or gaza c Haman karn). Other one limited mass production unit that basically upgraded version from original MS (example GM custom, Jesta), these unit only given to limited group of veteran or elite pilot
Your facts are good. But not fully accurate. Yes the GM Custom was a machine favored by the AEUG. But that was early on before they got significant backing. They initially had to rely on stolen, junk and surplus MS. The GM Custom at it's core was ruggedly durable. The GM Quel was not, as it cheapened the design by weakening the frame and decreasing the armor. Granted the GM Quel's torso and arm designs provided the foundation for the Movable Frame, and it's sensor system was kickass for it's time. But the GM II successfully mass produced nearly all of the best performance aspects of the previous models of GM from the OYW while using the original GM's base frame. The GM II was more adaptable than the GM Quel. It could operate in ground or space without the 10% parts differential previous MP GMs required. Which is why the GM II didn't get a lot of variants. Even the GM III has much more canon variants than the GM II. The GM Customs that continued to be used by the AEUG more than likely were put through next gen conversions. Parts from the GM II and even the Hizack could have been grafted in to give them improved sensors, generators, and cockpits. Which could have improved them enough to be better than GM IIs. But only until the release of the Nemo, which became their mainstay MP MS. Units favored by commanders were also at times just used to give or relay orders out in the field instead of fighting in front with the rest. Which was something that happened with the Zaku 1 occasionally during the OYW. The GM Custom was a great all around machine. But the GM Quel was primarily designed to operate in space and in the colonies. In the Katana Manga the Titans were shown using GM Kai painted in their colors because of this. The problems with the GM Quel were corrected too little too late, and they were decommissioned out of their association with the Titans instead of being converted into better machines. This led to them being purchased and upgraded by private security corporations like Themis, which gave them at least GM II level specs and panoramic 360 cockpits.
Why is there a lack of a Brigadier rank in the EFF? Aside from the obvious reasons of being based on Imperial Japanese ranks, why in-universe wouldn't an all-Earth military have this rank especially since most countries have it?
My guess is that, as the EFF primarily uses naval ranks, and the Navy technically only has three General Officer ranks (Rear Admiral is divided into two ranks), the EFF likely eliminated the Brigadier General to match.
The real life reason is that in the Japanese military, there is no one-star rank in the JGSDF (they completely lack the NATO OF-6 rank). The ranks go from Colonel to Major General, skipping the Brigadier General altogether.
@@RedCometNurse Blex Forer is an actual Commodore and if I'm correct, so was Jamitov Hymen at the time of 0083.
So umm..
One thing you have to take into consideration is that the GM Custom and GM Quel would not be vanilla units by the time of the Gryps Conflict. They would more than likely be updated to keep pace with newer machines. They may have even been advanced enough in their updates to match the GMII by the time of Gryps.
1) Great video as always!
2) Personal favourite Build Fighters Variant?
3) Personal Favourite Weapon?
4) What was general idea for the use of transforming mobile suits?
As someone who's not very knowledgeable to Gundam and it's lore these videos are very welcome. Thank you for doing them. :)
One of small gundam I know is Crossbone. That thing is 15.9m head height compared to Nu's 23m head height. I know that partial reason why Crossbone was small was to overcome Jupiter's gravity, but it was surprising when I compared them after building HGs. And I am surprised that Victory has 15.2m head height.
I wonder if mobile suits including gundams would've become exoskeleton armor like MS Girl Note without butterfly.
Question: If you were in charge of making a new OVA or series within the universal century timeline where would it be set and what would it be about ?
I would like if they do the side stories characters from de one year war except de missing link... Anyway because I find them really amazing hafe most of de characters on a ship team on SD gundam g generation genesis ps4 there stories are good and also de gundam uc 81 is also cool
I would make it about a zaku 1 pilot fighting and beating way stronger ms.
Side story of a Federation armor squad fighting and escaping from California during the early days of the OYW and fighting afterwards. Then as they survived for so long, they receive some of the first GMs, Mass produced guntanks and so on.
So essentially band of brothers
Actually, it was during the events of Gundam Unicorn that the first generation of small mobile suits were being built and fielded in the form of the D-50C Loto. The Loto was the first mobile suit designed and built by the newly formed SNRI (formed in 0093).
Also even after Unicorn, mobile suits were still getting bigger. during the Mafty incident in UC 0105 (Hathaway's flash), we have the Xi Gundam and Penelope Gundam which towers over everything else at 28m and 32.5m respectively, and being very bulky as well. But the bulkiness probably have something to do with the artist who also has a hand in drawing the mechs for the Zeorymer series which are comparably massive as well. And there is also the passing mention of the Mars Zeon forces in UC 0120 in Gundam F90 where they are using upsized variants of the Zaku, Dom, and Gelgoog.
Basically the Mobile Suit Gundam universe is doing the same thing we are doing in the real world by miniaturizing technology by making them more powerful and smaller at the same time. it's just that trying to miniaturize something as large as a mobile suit takes years to perfect.
Tomino also disliked the late 80s trend of increasing MS sizes; this was mostly pushed by Bandai to make engineering the models easier so he specifically insisted F91 and V use smaller MS in response. It was his latest "this is more realistic" kick.
Once the bubble economy crash caught up with Bandai however, the decreased engineering budgets + decreased model sizes made for a recession of crappy kits well until the 2000s HGUC/MG lines.
That's a hell of allot of research for the GM Costume. I do love most of the designs from 0083.
There is another in-universe explanation for the MS getting smaller. An absurd amount of Helium-3 got destroyed by the Sinanju Stein and the Neo-Zeong.
That's just one storage station. In most case its cost saving with armor and reactors being easier to build smaller and more powerful. As Jupiter still has a decent store of refined helium 3 for shipping to earth sphere.
GM Custom and GM Quel are excellent machines and its ashame they got phased out.
Thank you for making the MSGA joke about 1:1 scale make sense
I like to look at how fleet-destroying technology came in increasingly-smaller packages: Dendrobium -> Deep Striker -> FA Unicorn -> V2 Assault-Buster
Question: Kakarot197 what are your top 10 MSV from universal century/ alternate universe gundam series?
So basically, the reason for the MS downsize was the same in universe and IRL: economics
In the Zeta gundam universe, the GM2, was considered a relic, and was little more than a slightly upgraded RGM-79
One reason the AEUG would make use of the GM Custom would be that ace pilots who defected brought there GM Customs with them. However over time they would have to probably switch to GM II's since over time spare parts would start to become harder to obtain for the GM Custom. Although depending on when they would be forced to switch some of the former GM Custom pilots could switch to the newer Nemo.
Why were there 3 Full armor ZZ Gundam in the Sentinel series ?
@@SuperFeatherYoshi not prototype. All three FAZZ build using spare parts from gundam ZZ (similiar with gundam ground type) and originally mean for testing full armor system for gundam ZZ. Several feature like transformation system and weapon in it's forehead removed to speed up building time
@@SuperFeatherYoshi perhaps what you mean prototype for full armor system? Because if i am not wrong there already exist prototype zz gundam.
gundam.fandom.com/wiki/MSZ-009_Prototype_ZZ_Gundam
@@yoshuasidharta4685And FAZZ having the big ass cannon to carry!!! I can only see that as a support/artillery unit!! Otherwise they WILL get shred easily!!!!
I have a theory that the GM custom and Quell have on the GM II was their customizable attributes and maybe even maneuverability, because the GM II might not have the magnetic coating of the frame
The GM II is basically an even more mass production GM Quel. Probably using newer parts to mimic the propulsion layout and general performance of the Quel. Which itself is a simplified version of the Custom. The Custom has way more maneuvering propulsion units all over it. The Quel seemingly strips them out or replaces them with more basic ones. Like the Custom shoulders have propulsion units facing in multiple directions. It's how Burning is able to pull off that sudden stop against the Gelgoog Marines. The Quel lacks those forward facing propulsion units and so would not be able to pull off the same move. So it would make sense for AEUG veterans to want to use it over a GM II. Especially since it seems they were able to give them beam rifles. Which was really the only thing holding them back from being outright superior.
I'd imagine that the square cube law also exists in Gundam. A smaller mobile suit would have less volume, and thus less overall mass. With less mass to move, your actuators would enjoy a performance increase without having to increase the power of the actuators themselves, combine that with more powerful and compact reactors, and you get F91's smaller high performance MS that outclass the obsolete Jegan in every way.
I think the real reason is because technology advanced with time to the point they were able to find ways to make things smaller. We've seen this happen in real life; Cell phones, display monitors, PCs, game consoles, cars, radios, etc. The reason mobile suits got bigger was most likely due to newer technologies being introduced. As a result, in order to fit the new tech, they had to make the mobile suits bigger. It's a very similar scenario to cars. Cars were somewhat small due to limitations, then they got bigger in the 20th century when new tech was being installed, and now cars have so much tech yet aren't always big.
Ah yes, the always bulky Zaku III
You did the vid on Archangel's true mission and tactics with all five gundams: Can you do a video or answer what the EF's Plan was for White Base?
An entire video on mobile suit power sources (like the minovsky fusion reactor, GN drive etc) would be really cool.
QUESTION: Why GM Sniper II was not used widely after One Year War? Also GM Sniper II vs GM Custom !!!!!
GM Sniper II was limited produced and has a higher production cost during the late war. Many of them were destroyed and since its also a high spec MS, they were mostly given to the ace pilot. I still believe some of them survived the war (white dingo story). The latest entry one modernized GM Sniper II deployed by Titan got taken out by Char mens according to Ana Log.
As far as I remember, the GM Sniper II's that were developed in the OYW were used in the Gryps War. It's just that there were an extremely small amount of them made and production stopped due to each of the machines being extremely expensive due to each of them being as or more powerful than the Gundam. Don't worry, they got their service taking out ships in the Gryps War. Also in my opinion, GM Custom has more flair in its design than the GM Sniper II but the GM Sniper II is better at range.
MS with specific use like gm sniper often only produced in limited number. All gm sniper variant build using frame from it general use version. Like gm sniper ii is build by converted gm command frame and command itself already only produced in limited number
Question: What do you think would have happened if the (first) Gundam was stolen by Zeon/Char during the One Year War and use it against the Federation? Do you think the symobolic purposes it had would have been a crippling blow to the Federation and maybe have given Zeon a chance to beat the Federation in the war
Considering Hathaway's Flash is soon-to-be-canon (thanks to the movies coming out), you may want to revise your statement about when suit development peaked in terms of scale and size. Beyond CCA and Unicorn, we see that the last true monsters of the "big suit" era were yet to come. There's still the massive Xi Gundam (26 m) and the Penelope (32 m) in UC 105, as well as big grunts like the Gustav Karl (22 m) and Messer (23 m). That's almost a full ten years after Unicorn, so it pushes the timeline back further before the wave of miniaturization.
Well the ZZ in Crossbone did manage to keep up with the Crossbone X-1 and in Ghost a Zaku 2 was able to match the X-0 in movement.
The zaku vs the x-0 was a case of the pilots skill rather than the performance of the zaku 2 being good.
@@tomtheconqerur I'm just pointing out only armor, reactor and sensor tech advanced.
@@barrybend7189 its almost a century worth of advancement, saying that a zaku 2 can keep up with the X-0 is like saying the first tank can keep up with the Abrams.
@@tomtheconqerur considering this Zaku 2 might have been upgraded with an Amakatsu tech( as its seen holding a beam rifle) like how a Gelgoog was upgraded with a Nemo frame.
@@barrybend7189 we dont know if it was upgraded.
Lt. Burning and the GM custom's performance in my recent run of srw a portable cemented my adoration for this machine and it's pilot
This may or may not be cannon but I thought the GM custom used telemetry data taken straight from Amuro's Rx-78-2 because it was a direct descendant machine. Where the GM 2 was an all new design (although it looked similar) so it couldn't use this exact data set. That targeting and flight data could make all the difference to give older, experienced commanders an edge over recruits in GM 2s.
I simultaneously love and hate the fact that we share the same favorite mobile suits.
Oh well, at least we can give each other ammo.
Don't forget the Loto was used as a test bed for a miniaturized reactor and that technology would be incorporated in later mobile suits.
As for the GM Custom and GM Quel... From what it seems it might be that the GM Custom had better sensor and communications quality/resolution/accuracy but less range than the GMII while also having a drastically higher price tag.
A lot of performance differences can be made up with tuning and balance, along with unmentioned numbers. For example, if the GM-II had an issue where aiming its gun to its lower left quadrant caused instability and loss of control because armor placement made it top-heavy, while the GM Custom lacked those armor plates, enemy tactics would recognize and exploit the design flaw. The GM-II technically had better overall performance and armor, but had exploitable holes in actual combat.
I appreciate the model size tangent, because I've noticed that my v2 assault buster is diminutive compared to my strike rouge; both are hg 1/144 scale
Here's my question:
If you were to be a MS pilot, where would you like to be assigned? In atmosphere or space? And would you like to be with a whole army or just a squadron in a fight (like the Acguys from Thunderbolt Bandit Flower were each MS has a role)?
If i were to choose i would like to be on the ground by myself because team members make things complicated
Atmosphere, four-man squad.
Being covered by allies and such is a lot more effective when you're not vulnerable from every angle. Not to mention, all the truly big battles happen in space... no thanks. I might love being a pilot, and I would fight for my cause, but I'm not suicidal. I'll wait until I've got a Gundam for that!
i said this in that video as well, "spec" is only half of the story. a car can have a better spec than another, but be less reliable, or underperform under stress.
then there's the whole "spec salesman" aspect, where the unit could be said to perform X, but only does so in VERY specific situations(ie. lab tests).
Could also be elements like technology DID get better during the production of the GM II--such as more efficient reactors, computers, etc--but the GM Custom or GM Quel may have had better performing boosters, less limters, and heavier armor. Not unlike how the F-22 had a lot of advanced technology, but the F-35 had a far better computer system because computers in general had advanced substantially over 5-10 years.
Where does the fuel for the mobile suit's thrusters stored? I would assume that with all the machineries inside a mobile suit body there would be little space left for fuel.
Tanks in the backpack maybe?
I always wondered why mobile suits needed prepellant...if you have a reactor why couldn't that just be assumed to be powerful enough to power the thrusters too.
@@Bryan921SS1, because it's a NUCLEAR fusion reactor, trying to move an 18-14 meter tall MS with just PURE energy output is more waste than use, plus there's clear issue with expelling energy created from a Nuclear reaction process (even the sun, OUR BIGGEST Nuclear Fusion reactor leaks leftover radiation as well), imagine that when you're fighting INSIDE a space colony, where their air and atmosphere are enclosed and depends on colony systems to keep it as hospitable as possible...
If every time a Colony gets a MS fight inside it ends with a ton of radiation and radioactive isotopes in their air, the colony project would have died already, or considering how certain battles on earth happened, Earth would be FILLED with Chernobyl esque zones
@@andrehashimoto8056 ms reactor are powered by helium-3 which is not radioactive so there would not be any radiation
If you watched unicorn you see a rezel have his leg shot off.
And lots of liquids coming out, either it's general machinery liquid to keep the MS running or its fuel storage.
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The Patron blades intro was the first OP for Valkyria Chronicles anime
I r remember reading that another reason MS got smaller was it made them faster and more agile. Also because Beam Weaponry became so widespread, there wasn't a need for heavy bulky conventional armor and instead more anti-beam coating/I fields.
I would like to submit for consideration: When the Anaheim Lab Log, talks about the GM Custom being used as a commander unit . We don't know at what point in the conflict the entry is referring to. I know you said in a broad sense, it was used by commanders. But, I would assume that this would be true only during the opening weeks or months of conflict. At least until the AEUG gained enough backing to produce/buy more modern suits. I would understand if it was preferred by "older" unit commanders or second line units over the GM Kai or GMs that they may be operating, but not in front line units. I'm going to assume (as I have no evidence) that front line units would be assigned newest machines(GMII/Nemo) as they became available, regardless of the preference of the pilots themselves.
Question:
What happens to old decommissioned mobile suits?
We know that some of them end up as training machines or are transferred to less important bases.
Are they sold to PMCs, sold back to producer for recycling or there is a massive MS graveyard somewhere?
I can imagine some hobbyist or old veteran would like to keep his machine to get Zekes out of his lawn.
There is als othe aspect that a smaller MS also means a smaller, harder to hit target, is easier to store ect.
Size comes at a cost, after all.
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The AEUG probably took whatever equipment it could get. My understanding is that the RGM-79N is a more expensive, more adaptable unit for special operations, whereas the GM II has somewhat better raw specs but is mainly more cost-effective, being basically a refit or upgrade of the original standard RGM-79.
I have a question: in my head-canon, mobile suits are painted so distinctively in order to work like a 'visual IFF', due to minovsky interference, supported by the fact that each model has it's own color scheme, and factions usually have their own color palettes (not sure if correct terms). Do you think I'm right?
A few things.
1. You can't always go by specs and hard numbers. Though it had a higher generator output, the GM-II was FAR less maneuverable than the GM Custom, as you note via it having inferior thrust.
2. Tools and only as good as the person using them. GM Customs were assigned to and requested by veteran and ace pilots for a reason. GM-II were the cliche cannon fodder suits for a reason.
3. The GM-II was generally seen as a failure by the military because it was essentially just a re-skinned RGM-79 GM with slight improvements.
The custom is almost certainly a better mobile suit than the GM-II; however it was too expensive to justify production.
Luckily Turn A Gundam shows us after Victory Gundam suits got bigger again with Turn A being 20 meters.
(Real life Turn A came out in 1999 when oil prices and shortages were over and Bandai could make large kits again).
0:33 in universe I noticed that MS started to get bigger by ZZ Gundam and this culminated in Hathaway's Flash with the Gundam Penelope and Xi being huge. Later Buch Concern created the Dessa Type MS which was a miniature worker MS. This mobile suit was as powerful as regular size MS but was small and more maneuverable. Buch Concern funded and controlled the Crossbone Vanguard which only used miniature MS while the Federation was still using a lot of upgraded Jeagan models and a few Heavyguns putting them in a disadvantage even though they had more MS and ships than the small Crossbone Vanguard pirate force
If you do your research, you'll find that in the Universal Century series, the GM 2 replaced the GM custom and the GM quells, because of cost, not because it was a better Mobilesuit. The GM custom and the GM quell, were limited production, again, because of cost
MS that bigger and taller also easy to spot like real life WW2 tanks. After WW2 a study conducted the most reason why tanks got killed, they found out from statistics most of them got shoot on the turret and conclude the height of the tank is the reason, the tanks get spot from exposed turret and become a target and get killed. From this study many Nations R&D create tanks with low silhouette and even from Swedish they remove the turret entirely and create Stridsvagn 103.
Question
where did the Ra Cailum get its name from, and the Ra clop for that matter
GM Custom is an older high performance machine, designed to be a stronger version of the GM, after OYW.
GM II is the base GM upgraded with current gen technology, designed to be modern equivalent of the of the original GM, aka, a simple inexpensive MS, which is good enough.
Nemo was Annaheim's GM knockoff, which was aimed to be higher performance alternative of GM II.
Hyzack and Marosai were the modern versions of the Zaku II, Annaheim pursued it because they wanted to utilize the Ex-Zenioc assets.
To me the reason why they became smaller is because of these:
1. Beam Weaponry became the norm, mobility became a higher priority rather than defense. Aside that smaller target means better chance of enemy locking in on you and if they did, hits could become nearly hits.
2. Better technology, akin to Real Life, the technology allows having the same or better specs without being toi bulky.
3. Lastly, efficiency. It is more efficient to produce something smaller. Less time and resources needed for a complete product without sacrificing the MS integirity and specs.
It makes sense that the GM Custom and GM Quel would have advantages over the GM 2. A limited production machine will always have a few more tricks up it's sleeve than a full mass production machine.
I know this is video game trivia, but in the game Gihrens Ambition when you run the Gryps conflict as the AEUG the game starts you off with GM Customs, GM Cannon IIs and GM Sniper IIs (along with assorted other GMs), you start pre-development of the GM II. Once you produce the GM II you find that at a basic level its better than the Custom, but the Custom performs better with an ace inside. The GM II is also a fair bit cheaper to produce than the Custom making it more cost effective. I'd like to note the GM Cannon II is a superstar. Hizak compares favourably to the GM II and every GM is outmoded by the Nemo and Marasai. I find the universe reflects favourably on how the game depicts it.
As for real world, commander unit vehicles tend to feature better communication suites, so its possible the GM Custom had better comms gear than a basic GM II. There could also be a lot of other soft facts that made the Custom a suitable unit for commanders that arent just raw performance such as battlefield endurance or having more accurate (if shorter range) sensors. You'll notice in Gundam that the highest performance units arent usually piloted by commanders and that commanders have other useful attributes outside of raw piloting skill.
Gundam battle operation 2 seems to agree with this assessment of the GMs. At level 1 the GM II is at a battle cost of 300 while the custom and the Quel are both at 400.
The last gigantic MS in the UC Timeline could either be the ExS Gundam, the Sazabi, or the Xi Gundam as well as the Penelope.
Can you explain, How does Zeta gundam or Zeta-type mobile suit fit an entire panoramic view-linear seat cockpit in the chest area, while we know that the chest unit is pretty much empty as it serves as the place to store the mobile suit's head unit in waverider mode (except the Re-GZ)
probably by compacting it as much as they could
I appreciate and respect the gymnastics you went through to validate your opinion that your preferred mobile suit was totally better than its less appealing counterpart. GM Custom all day every day bb
Did some math. The GM II thrust to weight ratio is 1.06 vs GM Custom thrust to weight ratio 1.17. Or plainly the GM Custom should have more maneuverability than the GM II. At least on paper.
I can't remember where I read this but I saw an article once that said that the majority of GM-2's were converted from regular GM's and tended to underperform when compared to their specifications
There 2 version gm ii. First, any gm ii with model number RGM-79R is a direct conversion from original gm. Other with model number RMS-179, is brand new gm ii with original parts (not conversion from original gm). RMS-179 GM II has slight better performance compared to RGM-79R version but still lose against nemo.
This man never shuts up about the GM's
And I love that
Not sure how to word it as a question, but I had the thought about that, by the end of Zeta, the Gundam Mk-II had become old enough that it needed expansion to keep up performance. Thus the G-Defensor. But by the start of the First Neo Zeon War and the assembly of the Gundam Team, the Argama never got a replacement for that component. Think the Mk-II did get to reuse the Flying Armor, and then there was the Mega Rider, but it otherwise would have seemed the weakest of the team. Thoughts?
In Gundam Wing, the Leo was 16.2 meters tall and the Wing Zero was 16.7 meters tall.
This is how I explain the GM Quel and custom to myself. GM ii is a basic refit of the GM after operation stardust where the federation lost a great deal of resources, Machines like the GM custom or Power GM were to expensive and complicated to mass produce for standard federation, so the Quel is used by the Titans who need top of the line and federation mostly uses GM ii, Titans at start of zeta are unchallenged and so over confidently have started Incorporating less powerful mobile suits like the GM ii, it’s backed up by no facts but it’s the way i think of it
I think a big problem (though a clever one from an overall writing standpoint) the factions all had was making mobile suits more designed specifically for raw power. Zeon failed at many things in their overly prototyped designs. But, what they did excel at was showing how effective mobile suits are when designed for a specific role or specialty. If they made a massive mobile suit or mobile armor, that was not due to dick-waving or wanting to throw a bigger rock but because its purpose necessitated a large size. If they made a mobile suit for fighting other mobile suits, it always proved overwhelming in its capabilities. They didn't simply make a bigger mobile suit, slap a bigger gun on it, and pat themselves on the back.
If I have give a reason for why the MS are getting smaller aside from economical and technological reason, it would be urban subjugation... especially the colony terrain subjugation. It would be far easier for a smaller MS to move between buildings, cut corners and and find a hiding spot between buildings should an urban subjugation is needed. This in particular would hold some amount of weight when we consider how Titans were more interested in colony harassment of spacenoids.
Hmm. Unicorn and NT make it look more like the technologies already reached their peak but people decided to seal them away after witnessing all the feats from the Unicorns
speaking of MS getting smaller as decades go by, same with cellphones, they were first massive unwieldy bricks which then became tiny pocket-sized then today we have smartphones which are flat as pancakes, lol.
The original Heavygun looks too cool. It’s visor makes it look like it’s wearing Duke Nukem glasses
Question: Was the sinanju stronger than the unicorn or the Nu?
zeon space engineering magic
discounting NTD & funnel tech, the performance should be comparable.
I'd assume it's more effective than the Nu since it was developed from it in addition to the Sazabi
I had to idea this guy showed his face on camera!!! Mind blown. 😂
Question: What information do we have about the original purpose of the GP project. Also how did the GP02 MLRS fit in to it?
@Yoshi thing that gets me is the reluctance to use said GPO2. Remember the mobile suit was developed after the Antarctic Treaty which banned nuclear weapons, chemical weapons and colony drops. It's the same with mobile suits that we're made with Mirage Colloid ability, their secret development had to become more secret
I think I found this at the wiki so source is unsure rn but I heard that another reason why MS' got smaller was because to a beam rifle, it doesn't matter how tough your armor is, you get hit, you're probably dead. So they decided to go use smaller frames and less armor to allow greater maneuverability, but that unfortunately made physical weapons strong again, hence the Crossbone Vanguard's Shot Lancer and the machine cannon from the F91
MS got smaller is not because of beam rifle tech, but a smaller and more powerful reactor. But the design philosophy is correct on the armor.
I have a basic question. Why does the MS-06J Zaku II Ground Type exist? Since the original F type can be used in both the atmosphere and in space, and the F Type had the leg thrusters which were dropped by the J Type, returned for the G Type based on the development of the Gouf, why didn't Zeon just mass produce the F-Type more?
GM Custom AEUG custom colors looks darn good!
Question:
Who would win in a battle between the Gundam Meisters and the Wing Boys? Season 1 suits vs Pre-upgrade suits, Season 2 suits vs Post-upgrade suits
00 units would win, no doubt. The units are just so damn strong in comparison to the Wing suits, it's kinda bonkers.
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Is ZAFT's Second Stage Series meant to be used the same way as the Earth Alliance's G Project, where all five ZAFT Gundams (Impulse, Saviour, Gaia, Chaos, and Abyss) operated around the Minerva much like the G Project Gundams did to the Archangel?
GM Custom is also my favorite mobile suit from mobile suit Gundam Stardust memory. My favorite part is the GM Custom fought against the Gundam Zephyranthes.