Panasonic GX800 Review - Saddest Camera Ever
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I love my gx800. It fits in my pocket, has high image quality and interchangeable lenses and a flip out screen. That's all I need. Some of us just want a portable camera that takes pictures.
Same here, and I'm coming from an old Canon 5D (mk2), but I absolutely love the GX800.
Same here
Same, had mine for 5+ years now, love it to bits.
The camera is aimed at beginners, that's why video recording is automatic to keep it simple, it's not for 'sad' users who want pro quality from amateur gear.
It does everything so well that a camera aimed at amateurs should so how is it sad?
Why would you "limit" it only to beginners. There's people out there who like it just for its size and it's sad there's this nonsense limitation in video recording
@@vladimirzeleny8816 its cheap btw for a mirrorless system
Because it’s sad, GET OVER IT
Actually, you can manually set the shutter speed for recording video, although you are somewhat limited. In the video menu under "flicker reduction" you can set the shutter speed to 1/50, 1/60, 1/100 or 1/120. I set it to 1/60 since I record at 4K/30fps. Another weird thing is that the menu hides the ISO settings under "sensitivity". Probably to help out newcomers.
you're right about this workaround ;)
What can I do to record sound when I don’t have a computer just an iPhone to upload my TH-cam videos? I’m a bit clueless tbh.
are you saying the ISO settings are manually adjustable? What about focusing? can you do it manually?
@@lukejones1244 Yes, you can focus manually, and yes you can adjust ISO manually too, in fact in 'M' mode everything (as far as I'm aware) is manually adjustable as you'd expect from an 'M' mode.
I didn't know this ! Thanks !
I use a GX800 for street photography, and it's brilliant. Tiny, discreet, weighs nothing with the 12-32 or 20mm 1.7. Image quality is excellent. Touch screen is very responsive. If you want to travel light, get one.
Damn, I have this camera for about 1.5 ish years now, I got an absolute bargain because the shop I bought it from had a massive clearance on it about 170 USD ish new. I am by no means a photographer or videographer but have gotten into photography 10 fold with this little guy and love it.
I was getting pretty confused/pondering why you didn't like this camera until you said video. I don't really take videos with it so I never noticed this limitation ^^; but I agree that must be annoying. I guess I never noticed this limitation because the only time I record video with it is with a 35m manual lense! XP
True there is no headphone jack on this camera either but the microphone I found in it is rather excellent (with no wind ofc) finding it better than some higher-priced built-in mics on some DSLRs.
Yes tho, the pictures it takes is so crisp and wonderful and the 4K auto it does take is also very high quality, this camera got me fairly invested in the m4/3 format and have now plentiful m/43 lenses, mostly Pana, but one Neewer and one Olympus. I will definitely keep on the m4/3 train for a while and maybe choose to upgrade to a GH5 or smthn in the future.
I have been using the GX800 for 3 years, and I love it. Easy to use, good results, I have also bought the G9.
Actually you can choose shutter speed for video manually in Motion Picture settings (Flkr Decrease) you can choose 1/50, 1/60, 1/100, 1/120 and when you start recording you can lock (freeze) auto exposure. Just set some Fn button for AF/AE LOCK and press it during recording (for some reason does not work in M mode, use S mode instead.... M mode= full auto rec mode).
Hello, have you discovered that you can get full manual control by using 4K photo mode (start stop)? You can set video aspect ratio to 16:9 as well and although on the camera it will show you the 4K photo interface, but on the card there will be an MP4 video file.
Bit of a work around, and not sure how long it can record for, should be good enough for your broll though!
Just bought one and I'm quite pleased with it as a Bcam for my gx8. 🦍🙂
are you saying you can manually adjust everything in 4k photo mode and then the settings will stay there when you switch to video mode?
@@lukejones1244 no, just that if you shoot in photo 4k mode, you get a video file saved to the card. So it's the same as a video mode. Weird work around but at least it's possible, as this was a big thing which put me off the gx800!
Thank you, I thought it was getting crazy 😁 it’s true. The camera has some issues that I knew before buy it:
1- No external flash Socket.
2- No external mic input.
3- No external hardware to charge the batt (Panasonic’s issue but you can buy one).
4- Battery life a little limited. (If you buy a 2nd unit, better for you).
5- No optical visor (in a sunny day probably you will need to roll a black shirt around your head to see the screen in several conditions).
I’m happy with camera because I bought it with a great discount but I saw the matter with manual video. Not really a big problem for me but it’s very curious.
Anyway not sufficient to be “the saddest camera ever”.
am i wrong, or does the gx800 have the most dynamic range out of any mtf camera at around 13.3 stops? i would of loved to see what you could do with the raw photos, from what i read, at 100 iso it's a secret gem. i have a 25mm f/0.85 that i think would pair perfectly with this for the kinda stuff i shoot. from all the stats ive seen, it's actually a very happy camera, but if you have slow glass and are a videographer only, it's not meant for you.
I have the same cam and you are right!n Hoping for Magic Lantern for the gx800 too.
Hope Vitaliy reads this one
I own an A7R ii, iii, iv and now a V and many more cameras, but the 1 camera I always take with me is an GX800 with a 20mm f1.7. Small and fantastic quality.
I snagged one of these used a while back as an alternative to a Ricoh GR that could double as a lightweight backup for my main M 4/3 camera that I take travelling. For a fraction of the price of a GR, it's nearly as good and with the interchangeable lens mount, can run any other lenses if the main rig is out for any reason. it is good for low profile street work if just using the stock pancake. My only gripe with it really (keeping its price point in mind) is the somewhat over sensitive control wheel, that I find often leads to settings getting changed by accident. Something has to give when you shrink the size to these proportions though and nobody else is making anything this small and this good with interchangeable lenses at the moment.
you could use 4k photo start/stop as a manual video mode but i don't know how long can it record in this mode. I can't find much information on this mode, only some 3-7s long clips so if somebody who's reading this has that camera - can you check for how long can you record in 4k photo start/stop mode? i was thinking of getting this camera for my fpv drone because if it doesn't have any limit in 4k s/s mode i can "record" in 4k 4:3 30fps which is ideal for stabilization in gyroflow and lens correction
Ok, since i'm planning to buy a clean used one because i need a carry all the time camera with a 20mm f1.7 lens. But I'll definitely shoot videos with it too. So I didnt use it on this specific camera but I'm kindly asking one of you to check this thing;
In 4K photo mode, there should be options for whole manual settings. Secondly you can change how the 4K photo mode starts, so from the settings set it to record when button pressed stop when button pressed again. Than you'll have a 4K video with all manual controls. It was also almost same with the GX80 which i owned for a while. And also for G9 it is the best tricky way to record almost open gate 5.9K videos.
Does someone know which is the lightest and cheapest micro 4/3 camera with interchangeable lenses and manual iso/exposure/shutter control? Thanks!
Probably the Lumix GM1. Next up from that is the GM5 which is slightly larger, has an EVF and better manual controls. Panasonic forgot to include the letter ‘E’ between the G and M.
Video settings are, as you say, correct photo settings. Put it on M you set the time, iso and aperture you press the recording and the same is projected into the video and you have the manual settings in the video.
Unfortunately when you press record button, the picture settings are reset to auto, even you are in M mode. I was sure at the very first days after i bought that camera its possible, but later on i found its behave like VinGin saing.
@@dziarsky It's interesting I had it and it was possible to set the manual setting even in the video I usually set 1/60 iso and aperture and it worked
@@BorekCzech right, there is one setting under the anti flickering something, but its just coincidence. It only helps to record, not giving you manual control.
Totalu understand you. Is sad when the limitations are imposed for market reasons.
now tree years later you have a lot of choice for video gx80 gx880 gx9 is this a camera for people that use the video settings or only for enthousiast photographers and video amatures.
Good review, have thought about getting a GX850 based on some others reviews, but already have 2x G7 and 2x GX85 so no reason to get a GX850. Would like to pick up a GX8 for a good price but I really have too many cameras lol.
Does it work as a webcam for pc?
Nope, there is no live function, HDMI is just for playback.
Do you own the dji Osmo pocket? I bought myself one yesterday and classic VinGin talk about the Osmo Pocket would be neaaaaat
is it possible to set at least the focus in manual mode?
yes
Was considering this to upgrade from my Sony a5000, but this would be a downgrade. Thanx for the video!
Where we would we be without the vloggers struggling to understand why by far the cheapest compact ILC has less facilities than more expensive kit. That is the saddest thing and vloggers tend to struggle with these cheap primarily still cameras just because they cannot vlog with them. The M200 with the uninspiring 15-45mm comes in at £569 compared with the GX800 with the 12-32mm at £349. I am not starting with cameras or a beginner and this attitude always seems so patronising, especially when constantly reiterated with the affordable gear for what is a handy little bit of ultra compact ultra cheap kit in its own right for absolutely anyone. It is getting worse and worse as it is difficult to see anything less than £2,000 in the lists of new releases and commentators as much as makers losing touch with the less affluent sector of the market.
Yep ! Agree 100% . . . I think the issue is that vloggers like this often have access to a lot of high end gear - even if only on loan / or for review - so the standard required for something to pass muster just keeps getting ratcheted up as new gear comes out . . . I actually paid just £151 for my GX800 with the 12-32 kit lens (thank you, the gods of ebay). Like you I'm not starting with cameras / not a beginner, I've been through all the lenses you could imagine, the f0.95s the £2k anamorphics (10 years ago, when £2k would get you something amazing on the secondhand market), all the usual suspects in bodies, the full frame stuff like 5Ds and so on . . . and I am absolutely blown away by the GX800, I love it and have just recommended it to my 15 year old son, above saving up for a secondhand DSLR, as he's taking photography next year . . . like you say some of these vloggers are losing touch, I will now often see video where they review - for example - a great new 'affordable' lens, and then tell you it's only $1,899 : )
@@davelordy Thanks for the kind reply. Photography for the hobbyist is in a dark place at the moment especially with the current heavyweight marketing of 'full frame'. Difficult to get subjective opinions nowadays on the simpler affordable/lightweight stuff nowadays. Budget restraints can only get tighter now with current difficulties if we do actually survive. Hope your son has fun with the GX800.
@@michaeld5888 _"Hope your son has fun with the GX800."_
Cheers ! : )
Thanks for this video, I immediately stopped following the many GX800 some people were selling used for quite cheap. Even at below 200€, the sacrifice of not having manual control in video mode is just too much. I don't really need the greatest camera or a microphone input, since I have a Panasonic G7 as my main, but having a camera that goes to 1600+ ISO levels or strange shutter speeds even if I don't want that? An automatic no. Well, maybe if I found it below 100€, but that's not gonna happen.
As a little critique, I felt you rambled on a little too much and took some time to get to the main point, I think planning or scripting a little bit of the video could have helped you there. But great info anyways! For some reason, I found 0 reviews that explained the automatic video mode issue, and again, thanks for this, you saved me some money that would've gone to waste.
Just bought the GX800 or the GF9 just 30 minutes ago on the internet for a bargain. Will see or experience the video quality....
Wow, I don't understand why you have more dislikes.
I am a youtuber too, I bought this by thinking it would be a great secondary cam, but yeah, very disappointed by the "no-manual" mode...
I've had a GX800 for about 2 years. I use it as my B-camera for cooking videos and it's 'OK'. Actually, it isn't, I find it very hard to get the look I want sometimes. And did you experience the overheating cutout at 4 minutes when shooting 4K? That's really bad. So I'm looking at trading in for a G7, and wondering why I didn't find the G7 when I bought the GX800. Hey ho. Thanks for the video, very informative!
I agree if I had know these things I would not have bought it , I leave it in a. draw ,I just get aggravated when I use it ..
Thanks for review. Wish I would have seen it before I bought a used one a week ago. Noticed the issue with the lack of manual video control even before delivery.
Annoying, I agree; but it's not like the video footage is worthless.
Other than the video isssue, there is a lot to love about this camera; as you confirmed yourself. So I am not really sorry I obtained a used body under $ 200.
BTW: the video title "saddest camera ever" sounds a lot worse than your review turns out to be. Took you 4:20 to finally get to the point after praising everything else about the camera.
So sad! I wanted this camera to put it on a big drone Im designing. It was the lightest 4/3 sensor I found and also the cheapest! So sad they do this!!! Its unloiyal. I wonder if the workarounds described by Martijn Estor work or not.
F...k! It was too nice to be true. Thanks for the warning
I purchased that camera by accident... i wanted GX80 but i missed by one "0". xD
Thank you so much for this valuable information. I was considering buying a GX800 like you just due to its size factor. I also own a G80 (similar to your G7) and the GX800 attracted me due to its size. But I need Manual Mode in video. That is basic.
Can't agree more, a sad camera......today so many people said:"m43 is doomed", because the sensor and eqv. Blender (Jesus so many of them). But the real blacksheep are Pana and Oly themselves. They limited their wonderful products with different Levels. :(
I looking forward to a PDAF EPL or a GF with hot shoe and otg type-C(in theory it supports mic and hdmi)
Удивляюсь таким людям.Покупают камеру с размером с сигарет и хотят от нее хорошего качества.Так не проще взять тот же gx7 или gx 9?Эта дюймовочка предназначена для уличного фото .
I'm not sure why anyone would consider this as a suitable camera for serious video work. It is designed as a simple EDC camera. Will you get decent video results for "snapshot video"? - of course you will. Do you want 4.2.2. video for grading? etc - no, you got the wrong camera.
Do not forget the overheating Problem when taking Clips at 4k , after 1 Minute it Stopps recording. 😂
I havent had that issue actually. Maybe sweden is cold enough to keep it cooled. :)
I bought one last week and II am so disappointed ,,,,,,,,the cameras,,, sound is awful ,,,, ,,,you live and learn
I think you need to take a look at yourself rather than blame the tool you use.
I doubt it would bring a mic input to that camera.
I'm not saying its a bad camera, but for me it wasn't good for my needs.
no need to be rude.
not true, you can set the shutter speed
Nope
Saddest review ever.
Like the title suggests… :)
Learn more about size vs features. Heat. Buy a Gopro.
… needs a while to come to point?
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