I love how the overhead projector breaks when Gene was about to write on it, push it away, and uses old methods. Perfect usage of the old saying "Going back to the drawing board"
@@scottl.1568 Just one of things that makes Ron Howard so good, "How can we take something boring/mundane and have it make an additional impact?" He's good...
That was a tough choice that year, between him and Kevin Spacey (The Usual Suspects), Tim Roth (Rob Roy), James Cromwell (Babe) and Brad Pitt (12 Monkeys). Each one was fantastic in their roles.
@@curtisburga943 I agree, its rather lazy to say someone was "robbed" of something without explaining that the person who won was an inferior performance to his. There's a lot of great performances every year and there's a lot of great performances who don't even get nominated, you only get 5 nominees a year and only 1 actual winner every year.
He developed that performance from watching an interview with the actual Gene Kranz, who actually did cry talking about that moment, almost 40 years later.
Me, realizing that I've messed up my Duna-Kerbin transfer stage but then realizing I way overbuilt the lander with enough dV to get an aerocapture. "I don't care what it was designed to do, I care about what it CAN do!"
YES! I put that up there with “Houston...we have a problem...” and “We haven’t lost a man in space and we’re sure not gonna lose one on my watch!” as the best quotes from this film
Also love how, after the LEM successfully executes the burn, Grumman guy is like "Yeah, how 'bout that LEM!!" and Gene deadpans "Well I guess you'll get to keep your job." Classic!
Sorry.. as an engineer, it strikes me as a really stupid quote. We design things that CAN do what they are SUPPOSED TO. It doesn't work the other way around, at least not very well.
Kranz is the real deal, from everything I've ever seen, that's exactly him. If you have Netflix, check out Mission Control, some great interviews on there with the guys on the ground.
The real Gene Krantz did just that. Ed & the script managers (writer, director, producer, etc.) let it escalate a bit - typical Hollywood. Oh and "Blow up & die" was NOT helpful even in the remote sense.
Ed Harris is so moving whenever he makes his passion filled speeches, heck if he were a manager at Walmart he could make a morning pep talk seem inspirational
Kind of funny when you listen to actual recordings from the astronauts. There’s about as much drama as a dripping faucet. Those dudes were cool under pressure and tough as they come.
@@jshepard152 I admit, testing new and potentially unsafe equipment is much more tasking and nerve-racking. All these astronauts had already gotten used to risks like this.
@@joshuasantana685 They were probably panicking like you wouldn't believe, but all their combined training kept it from surfacing. They know that once panic sets it will very quickly escalate to mad hysteria, they'll be at each others throats, then they'll die and drift aimlessly in space never to be seen again
I play a Star Trek roleplaying game, and I'm the ship's engineer. The way I play the character is taken from this movie and real life event. Lovell said that what happened to them was something that they never thought was possible, so they never trained for it. My engineer thinks of what could impossibly happen and drills his crew accordingly.
Not just engineering, but design in general. You see this in games all the time. A card is designed with something in mind, or a system is designed to incentivize a certain action out of people. What is sometimes forgotten is how good people are at figuring out what the system/items/card CAN do along side what it's intended to do.
Apparently Gene Krantz never said "failure is not an option", but he has since said that he wishes he had. Ed Harris actually improvised the line on the spot, and Krantz liked it so much he used it as the title for his memoirs. Shows just how much into Krantz's personality Harris managed to tap.
Actually it was one of the screenwriters, Bill Broyles who came up with that line. They met one of the Apollo 13 flight controllers in preparation of the movie and he said that when a problem arose, they laid out all the options, and failure was never one of them. Broyles took this line and had it worked into Harris' script.
“I don’t care what it was designed to do, I care about what it can do” the words of some who truly knows how to effortlessly forge ahead under pressure.
I went to see this movie when it came out with my father who had been one of those Grumman LM workers. During the scene with them using slide rules he looked at me and said "that's how we did it" he was in his early 20s when he worked at Grumman and worked on the LM that flew on Apollo 13
Bartonovich52 my dad worked in SCAT (Spacecraft Assembly and Testing) at Grumman working on LM5, 7 and 10. And yes computers were definitely used to land a man on the moon but he has photos taken at Grumman and the only thing on the desks were ashtrays and slide rules.
"I don't care about what it was designed to do, I care about what it CAN do." Can we just take a moment to appreciate Ed Harris and all the great performances in this movie. This will stand the test of time as an all time great, in my opinion.
Love watching this scene. Gene Kranz is calm, composed, and also not only using his expertise but hearing them out to get everyone's professional opinion and expertise in order to build a solution to solve a huge problem, while also keeping them calm so they don't lose THEIR heads. Little things like this are a great example of a great leader.
"Whoa, whoa, whoa, guys! Power is everything! They don't have power, they don't get a projector screen! We gotta turn everything off, the lava lamp, the toaster, everything!"
"The guys upstairs have handed us this and we need to get through. We need to figure out a way to get the project up and running again, using nothing but that"
I would highly recommend the book “Apollo”. I just finished it on audible. It goes very in depth into the engineering process of the program. It also describes how the guys in mission control worked. They had to figure out lots of things on the fly. I learned a lot that only made it all that much more impressive.
Apollo 13 was one of the best movies ever made. EVER. This scene is amazing, the projector and blackboard are total metaphors for the entire fiasco. Fancy piece of tech busts, time to get back to basics.
The thing that always stood out to me most in this scene was how Gene was able to retake control of the room when everyone was bickering without ever raising his voice. Now that is a man who commands respect.
@@aiyoung9482 Spitting out truths!!! Only government can afford the expense of deep space missions like it has always been. Businesses ate risk adverse and need a return on investment for their shareholders. Better to get a mechanical engineer degree (a lot of the courses are the same as aerospace), then try to get a job at SpaceX, Blue Origin, Boeing, Airbus etc. Better yet, a software degree gives you even more flexibility, and a fallback of a Silicon Valley job if you don't make it.
So tell me this aerospace boy. How do you account for the alleged gravitational pull of multiple bodies when you shoot your rocket into space? Or are you only concerned about what computer software spits out on a monitor?
I dunno. They killed three astronauts in Apollo 1. They almost killed these three from a known defect. They would go on to kill another 14 people in accidents that could have easily been avoided.
I love how Ed Harris's Gene Kranz loses his temper for just a _second_ or two when he says "Well, unfortunately we're not landing on the moon, are we?", and then immediately goes back into planning, leading mode once he realizes he's slipped. Brilliant acting.
I love the quote "I don't care about what anything was designed to do. I care about what it can do." Another great example of this is how the stairwells in the twin towers were not designed for mass-evacuation (which was never anticipated), but they ultimately allowed the vast majority of thousands of workers below the impact zones to escape the towers.
@@dannygjk True, the had to act it up for the movie. In reality they knew how dangerous it was but they were professionals who knew what they were doing. The audience are not professionals, they have to be told how dangerous it is and how nail-biting some situations were due to how the astronauts and ground-crew talk and act, even though that's not how it really happened. I mean just listen to the actual recording of the "Houston we've had a problem here"-situation. If you didn't knew what was going on you would never guess that their ship essentially blew up behind them.
There is a lot of Artistic License in this scene, the real Gene Krantz was a for more soft spoken individual than how Ed Harris portrayed him. In addition the decision whether to go around the moon, or do a direct abort, was done in the Control Room, with mostly by Lunney and his team, Krantz was there too, but Lunney was in control. Krantz then took his team out of the rotation. This movie unfairly denies Lunney and the other Flight Controllers and there teams, the credit they too deserve for getting Apollo 13 home. The PC-2 burn wasn't decided or proposed by Krantz either, but by the guys in the trenches
Ed Harris' performance as Gene Kranz is the backbone of this story, and his masterful acting should have earned him an Oscar... calm, collected, determined, and open to suggestions from his team of experts and was not too proud to look down on anyone's ideas. If only the world has more leaders like Kranz...
I remember watching this while in the Military. We were working equipment that required us to consult with Northrop Grumman all the time. This scene made a bunch of us laugh when he asked for what Grumman though.
My grandfather wasn't there for the meetings with engineers at JSC. He was an engineer at KSC at the time, shocked and trying desperately to get those men home with everyone else. RIP Eugene "Buzz" Swoyer
Notice how the voice that can be heard about the lander design, while Gene (Ed. Harris) is thinking, was added in post-production to fill the silence gap and make the scene a little more explanatory.
Substituting a blackboard for a failed piece of tech - the overhead projector - is kind of a metaphor for the film. Solving problems as they arise. I do hope that was intentional rather than the briefest of comic incidents.
Everything, literally everything that was designed to do a job can do several other jobs, even if it was designed to do a very specific thing. Great quote :)
See I love this movie because it deals with a real world problem and requires the collaboration and creativity to solve it. The classic "Put your thinking caps on". Literally.
Honestly, it's situations like what happened on Apollo 13 and even on Gemini 8 that makes me want to rely on human pilots rather than just computers like these recent (commercial?) space flights.
Well - to be fair, if this were to happen on an unmanned mission, the urgency to solve the problem wouldn't exist because there would not be lives at stake. However, it would still require people working together to save the mission.
The people from Grumman weren't happy with the way the movie portrayed them, though. Grumman had an "anything we can do to help" attitude from the start.
Thats an leader you want in the most desperate situation he points out - what are the goals - what do we know - what do we have - what are our options And for him specifically he has to make the call and decide and if it fails hell be responsible
Just think,, somewhere, the people from NASA and IBM got together and had a meeting. "What should we tell employees on how to dress for work.?"""" "Well, sir,, I would suggest ties with short sleeved white shirts.!" "That's preposterous! They will look like geeks managing a fast food burger restaurant!" "It's settled then,, the geek look for everyone!"
It was the 1960s, a much more formal time. Only a decade later and the controllers started to dress more smooth and laid-back in reflection of the changing times. This was showed on History's Failure is Not an Option: Beyond The Moon.
If only these guys were in mission control when Columbia's port wing was KNOWN to have been hit by a chunk of insulation. Who knows if just one of these guys could have delayed the Challenger launch just 2 days following the freeze.
I find it absurd that at no point during my school years in History class was there a lesson, not even a chapter in any of our books, that three Americans were almost stranded in space indefinitely. I had to hear about this incident when this film came out.
I don't know why something like this would be in a history textbook. I understand what you mean, but I also don't think it belongs in history. It's a weird pop culture thing.
I mean it's more like histoty of space travel than world history. We barely learn about the moon landing, and that's all we get from space, not even the space station or space shuttles are mentioned in history lessons.
It's not said in the movie, but to make a direct abort they would have had to ditch the Lunar module in deep space. That way the spacecraft would have lost enough mass to turn around and return to Earth. However Gene Kranz wanted to in no way throw away the Lunar module, which he now thought of as a lifeboat. As it would turn out at the end when they actually got a look at the damage to the Service Module, Gene Kranz ultimately made the mostright call.
When you think about how quickly they were going away from Earth and consider how much thrust it would take to stop and then reverse their trajectory, you realize why it wasn't a good idea. If you get part way through the process and lose power, you might lose the ability to sling around the moon, and then it's all over.
One little known fact about Apollo 13 was that using the Lunar Module's engine had already been tested on Apollo 9 a year earlier. So the work those astronauts did played a big role in deciding to use that engine for the whole stack.
This was the first clip my professor showed us in our Engineering class on day one. Literally showcased what crisis management and effective leadership looks like.
In real life, nobody went off on each other like they do at the 0:58 mark BUT that was the anxiety running through their heads. If there's one thing NASA did so well in the beginning it was NOT hiring overly emotional people. Everyone was forcing themselves to stay calm, think and not let their emotions go out of control, especially during the planning stages. But that doesn't really work in a movie. Still the drama does show the audience just how deep the NASA guys were investing themselves in the survival of their astronauts: no sugarcoating, just the hard uncomfortable facts and possibilities.
Kranz always sharp as a nail, but this Grumman engineer is so condescending. The ability of a system to perform outside of its operational design has to be tested on these situations. I don't care what was designed to do, I care about what it can do. Perfect line.
Government staffers always have a degree of disdain towards contractors. This movie highlights this on-going relationship really well through Ed Harris' character.
But he's NOT being condescending. He's telling Kranz that it wasn't designed for it, so there's no way to guarantee it'll work. What, was he supposed to lie to Kranz?
the Boeing engineers thought they could use the service module to get back but Kranz and Gerald Carr overruled them the explosion destroyed that spacecraft so it won't work which means Northrup Grumman will have to pick up the slack to get Apollo 13 home.
He'd take them all outside and use a stick to trace in the dirt. If the stick broke he'd use his finger. Why? Because he's Gene Kranz. They've never lost an American in space and they're sure as hell not going to lose one on his watch.
My favorite quote from this video is "Gene, I'm wondering what the Northrop Grumman guys think about this." That really is so fascinating because Northrop Grumman was the builder of the Apollo Lunar Module, the F-14 Tomcat, A-6 Intruder, EA-6B Prowler, E-2 Hawkeye, and C-2 Greyhound planes! And they were all built on Long Island, New York, USA in Calverton which is still there building the E-2 Hawkeye and M-355 Firebird, the X-47C Super Pegasus and RQ-4 Global Hawk, and the B-2A Spirit stealth bomber! Thanks!
young project managers watch this clip and learn the lessons from Gene and his running with the problem. Just because you have plans does not give you the right to ignore problems sat there right in front of you
not possible sadly. Was working on 3 other films at the time. Mr. Holland's Opus being one of em. and if you've seen What About Bob, that's what Dreyfuss looked like in '91. But I can see the guy in the movie's voice being similar
Deciding courses of action. People have opinions. The leader quickly and decisively says it isn’t an option while explaining why. Makes a conscious effort to move past our assumptions about ‘what things were designed to do’
That's actually how it really works. The Martian did a great job of getting that message across. I remember Chris Hadfield talking about "The Martian" and saying that this is how astronauts actually think, that's kind of their mantra. You identify the most serious problem and then you work that problem until you solve it. Then you tackle the next most serious problem, that is quint essential NASA.
I remember seeing this scene alot on the windows vista media player. Strange they included this on it but i guess they just wanted a something to show the capabitlities of windows media player.
I love how the overhead projector breaks when Gene was about to write on it, push it away, and uses old methods. Perfect usage of the old saying "Going back to the drawing board"
The Magical Gamer there's a better solution to loving it. Aly.
That was Ron Howard in the background saying "gotta get a bulb around here.."
@@JeepersCreepers2013 Thanks for pointing that out. I did hear that line, but had not listened to the voice, definitely Howard's...
It's also much better from a cinematic perspective to do it on a chalkboard
@@scottl.1568 Just one of things that makes Ron Howard so good, "How can we take something boring/mundane and have it make an additional impact?" He's good...
Ed Harris was robbed of an Oscar for this film. His reaction at the end when he slumps into a chair and comes close to crying is fantastic acting
he was the voice of reason and calm during the entire situation
Those were the days
That was a tough choice that year, between him and Kevin Spacey (The Usual Suspects), Tim Roth (Rob Roy), James Cromwell (Babe) and Brad Pitt (12 Monkeys). Each one was fantastic in their roles.
@@curtisburga943 I agree, its rather lazy to say someone was "robbed" of something without explaining that the person who won was an inferior performance to his. There's a lot of great performances every year and there's a lot of great performances who don't even get nominated, you only get 5 nominees a year and only 1 actual winner every year.
He developed that performance from watching an interview with the actual Gene Kranz, who actually did cry talking about that moment, almost 40 years later.
all of my brain cells gathering to figure out how to build our 15th rescue mission to pick up 47 kerbals stuck on eeloo for 95 years now.
Me, realizing that I've messed up my Duna-Kerbin transfer stage but then realizing I way overbuilt the lander with enough dV to get an aerocapture.
"I don't care what it was designed to do, I care about what it CAN do!"
Me - trying to figuire out how to achieve orbit after the 100th attempt actually worked and got off the ground.
Me, exploding my ships on the launch platform for the 1000th time. I good space
I think at that point it's permanent base...
Me trying to figure out how to stop my rocket from wobbling in sandbox mode
Best quote ever........ I don't care what anything was designed to do I care about what it can do.
Absolutely. Just because you didn't DESIGN it to do that job doesn't mean it CAN'T do that job!
YES! I put that up there with “Houston...we have a problem...” and “We haven’t lost a man in space and we’re sure not gonna lose one on my watch!” as the best quotes from this film
Also love how, after the LEM successfully executes the burn, Grumman guy is like "Yeah, how 'bout that LEM!!" and Gene deadpans "Well I guess you'll get to keep your job." Classic!
Sorry.. as an engineer, it strikes me as a really stupid quote. We design things that CAN do what they are SUPPOSED TO. It doesn't work the other way around, at least not very well.
@@smeech8000a you bet
good example of project manager: no shouting, no hysteria, calm, deep, and decisive
Kranz is the real deal, from everything I've ever seen, that's exactly him. If you have Netflix, check out Mission Control, some great interviews on there with the guys on the ground.
The real Gene Krantz did just that. Ed & the script managers (writer, director, producer, etc.) let it escalate a bit - typical Hollywood.
Oh and "Blow up & die" was NOT helpful even in the remote sense.
And actually has a technical understanding similar to the people he is leading. That's getting rare.
Not a manager, a leader.
Jaron Breen It isn’t, but it is the end result if these gentlemen don’t solve this problem.
Ed Harris is so moving whenever he makes his passion filled speeches, heck if he were a manager at Walmart he could make a morning pep talk seem inspirational
The neatest thing is he was in both Apollo 13 AND The Right Stuff.
One of the best actors ever
He probably uses a marketing and sales technique called AIDA. Attention. Interest. Decision. Action.
I'd want him as my commanding officer if i were going to hold the us government to ransom on a disused old jail...
@@1985slipstream lol I get it
When you already know the outcome of a movie but it's still this compelling and emotionally-engaging, that's called great film making.
It’s a great movie
Kind of funny when you listen to actual recordings from the astronauts. There’s about as much drama as a dripping faucet. Those dudes were cool under pressure and tough as they come.
Kinda understandable, considering the astronauts were originally military pilots.
@@wikiuser92
Not just military pilots. Test pilots.
@@jshepard152 I admit, testing new and potentially unsafe equipment is much more tasking and nerve-racking. All these astronauts had already gotten used to risks like this.
It sounds more like an inconvenience then a radio drama when you hear the transmission between Mission Control and Apollo
@@joshuasantana685 They were probably panicking like you wouldn't believe, but all their combined training kept it from surfacing. They know that once panic sets it will very quickly escalate to mad hysteria, they'll be at each others throats, then they'll die and drift aimlessly in space never to be seen again
"I don't care what anything was designed to do. I care about what it can do."
Can't think of a better way to sum up what engineering is.
I got one: “Scientists think about the future; Engineers build the future”.
I play a Star Trek roleplaying game, and I'm the ship's engineer. The way I play the character is taken from this movie and real life event. Lovell said that what happened to them was something that they never thought was possible, so they never trained for it. My engineer thinks of what could impossibly happen and drills his crew accordingly.
I have been looking for this quote for quite sometime. I feel at rest now.
@@tygrkhat4087 what nerd.
Not just engineering, but design in general. You see this in games all the time. A card is designed with something in mind, or a system is designed to incentivize a certain action out of people. What is sometimes forgotten is how good people are at figuring out what the system/items/card CAN do along side what it's intended to do.
Apparently Gene Krantz never said "failure is not an option", but he has since said that he wishes he had. Ed Harris actually improvised the line on the spot, and Krantz liked it so much he used it as the title for his memoirs.
Shows just how much into Krantz's personality Harris managed to tap.
Krantz here: Markus got everything wrong. Do not listen to them.
@@solomonreal1977 Um - what?
Actually it was one of the screenwriters, Bill Broyles who came up with that line. They met one of the Apollo 13 flight controllers in preparation of the movie and he said that when a problem arose, they laid out all the options, and failure was never one of them. Broyles took this line and had it worked into Harris' script.
Like how people associate the phrase "a sucker born every minute" with PT Barnum even though he didn't actually say it
I must have seen this Movie like 15 times and yet I never get bored of it
Iwan Egerström . I completely agree.
Apollo 13 and From the Earth to the Moon, I could watch countless times and still be entertained by them every single time.
me too .
Of course not it is a masterpiece
It's one of the film's even though I've seen it countless times I still get all worried and wonder if they're going to get home safely
“I don’t care what it was designed to do, I care about what it can do” the words of some who truly knows how to effortlessly forge ahead under pressure.
Average age of the engineers: 27
Using paper, pencil, chalk, blackboard, and sliderules.
Gene was the oldest of the flight directors, 37
Not to mention a wristwatch and a window when piloting a space craft
I went to see this movie when it came out with my father who had been one of those Grumman LM workers. During the scene with them using slide rules he looked at me and said "that's how we did it" he was in his early 20s when he worked at Grumman and worked on the LM that flew on Apollo 13
Except for the legions of IBM computers they had.
The last aerospace products designed purely by hand were made in WWII.
Bartonovich52 my dad worked in SCAT (Spacecraft Assembly and Testing) at Grumman working on LM5, 7 and 10. And yes computers were definitely used to land a man on the moon but he has photos taken at Grumman and the only thing on the desks were ashtrays and slide rules.
What I love is it captures the actual confusion on how they are going to do this. Everyone’s got plans and ideas but everyone also has valid points.
"I don't care about what it was designed to do, I care about what it CAN do." Can we just take a moment to appreciate Ed Harris and all the great performances in this movie. This will stand the test of time as an all time great, in my opinion.
There's so many life lessons in this movie that I didn't appreciate until I was much older.
Love watching this scene. Gene Kranz is calm, composed, and also not only using his expertise but hearing them out to get everyone's professional opinion and expertise in order to build a solution to solve a huge problem, while also keeping them calm so they don't lose THEIR heads. Little things like this are a great example of a great leader.
0:13 I want you all to forget the flight plan. From this point we are improvising a new mission. Fixing that projector.
You can't run a projector on 12 amps John!
I want it cold and dark, don't give me anything they don't have up there.
"Whoa, whoa, whoa, guys! Power is everything! They don't have power, they don't get a projector screen! We gotta turn everything off, the lava lamp, the toaster, everything!"
"The guys upstairs have handed us this and we need to get through. We need to figure out a way to get the project up and running again, using nothing but that"
"Okay, Odyssey, we have an ... unusual procedure for you here, we want you to unscrew the lightbulb..."
the acting is great, even for the extras
"i don't care what anything was designed to do!.. i care what IT CAN DO"! love that part.
" I'm not going to sugarcoat this for ya"
it was just not even remotely relevant.
I highly doubt anybody at NASA ever said anything close to that in real life.
That was Hollywood.
@@ArmyJames Dude, I'm not going to sugar coat this for you
Ed Harris should have won 3 Oscars for this performance.
Damit, now I want to watch the whole movie
Damn good film.
Same
Its on netflix now
on my plan for tonight )
What took you so long? Great movie, hope you enjoy it!
I would highly recommend the book “Apollo”. I just finished it on audible. It goes very in depth into the engineering process of the program. It also describes how the guys in mission control worked. They had to figure out lots of things on the fly. I learned a lot that only made it all that much more impressive.
I’d highly recommend Gene Kranz’s autobiography “Failure is not an Option”. Very informative and an interesting read.
gcHK47 yeah I’m planning on getting to that one!
@slagellajs who's the author of that book ?
Apollo 13 was one of the best movies ever made. EVER. This scene is amazing, the projector and blackboard are total metaphors for the entire fiasco. Fancy piece of tech busts, time to get back to basics.
The thing that always stood out to me most in this scene was how Gene was able to retake control of the room when everyone was bickering without ever raising his voice. Now that is a man who commands respect.
There was no bickering. That was just for the movie.
I like how at the beginning, he just let's them argue and rabble and rant...He listened to everyone.
This clip is why I’m an aerospace engineering student rn
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AI Young i disagree. There’s a flood of new jobs and internships, at least currently with privatization and mergers
@@aiyoung9482 Spitting out truths!!! Only government can afford the expense of deep space missions like it has always been. Businesses ate risk adverse and need a return on investment for their shareholders.
Better to get a mechanical engineer degree (a lot of the courses are the same as aerospace), then try to get a job at SpaceX, Blue Origin, Boeing, Airbus etc. Better yet, a software degree gives you even more flexibility, and a fallback of a Silicon Valley job if you don't make it.
So tell me this aerospace boy. How do you account for the alleged gravitational pull of multiple bodies when you shoot your rocket into space? Or are you only concerned about what computer software spits out on a monitor?
Pure Engineering right there
I dunno.
They killed three astronauts in Apollo 1. They almost killed these three from a known defect. They would go on to kill another 14 people in accidents that could have easily been avoided.
Ed Harris is amazing in everything he is in
I love how Ed Harris's Gene Kranz loses his temper for just a _second_ or two when he says "Well, unfortunately we're not landing on the moon, are we?", and then immediately goes back into planning, leading mode once he realizes he's slipped. Brilliant acting.
"I don't care about what anything was designed to do. I care about what it can do."
This movie is packed with good quotes. I love it.
I love the quote "I don't care about what anything was designed to do. I care about what it can do." Another great example of this is how the stairwells in the twin towers were not designed for mass-evacuation (which was never anticipated), but they ultimately allowed the vast majority of thousands of workers below the impact zones to escape the towers.
One thing I love about this movie is how everyone in every room is probably the best at what they do on the planet. 😁
Especially yelling, and being overly-dramatic.
@@ArmyJames Never happened in real life that was Hollywood horseshit. Even the astronauts didn't freak out as depicted in the movie - more horseshit.
@@dannygjk True, the had to act it up for the movie.
In reality they knew how dangerous it was but they were professionals who knew what they were doing. The audience are not professionals, they have to be told how dangerous it is and how nail-biting some situations were due to how the astronauts and ground-crew talk and act, even though that's not how it really happened.
I mean just listen to the actual recording of the "Houston we've had a problem here"-situation. If you didn't knew what was going on you would never guess that their ship essentially blew up behind them.
Great way of looking at it, you’re so right
That movie was a great example on how no battle plan survives contact with the enemy.
Many great lines in this movie. An underrated one is "I don't care about what anything is designed to do, I care about what it can do."
There is a lot of Artistic License in this scene, the real Gene Krantz was a for more soft spoken individual than how Ed Harris portrayed him. In addition the decision whether to go around the moon, or do a direct abort, was done in the Control Room, with mostly by Lunney and his team, Krantz was there too, but Lunney was in control. Krantz then took his team out of the rotation. This movie unfairly denies Lunney and the other Flight Controllers and there teams, the credit they too deserve for getting Apollo 13 home.
The PC-2 burn wasn't decided or proposed by Krantz either, but by the guys in the trenches
Ed Harris' performance as Gene Kranz is the backbone of this story, and his masterful acting should have earned him an Oscar... calm, collected, determined, and open to suggestions from his team of experts and was not too proud to look down on anyone's ideas. If only the world has more leaders like Kranz...
I remember watching this while in the Military. We were working equipment that required us to consult with Northrop Grumman all the time. This scene made a bunch of us laugh when he asked for what Grumman though.
My grandfather wasn't there for the meetings with engineers at JSC. He was an engineer at KSC at the time, shocked and trying desperately to get those men home with everyone else. RIP Eugene "Buzz" Swoyer
That is too cool. Many thanks to him for his monumental effort. Saving 3 lives is no small feat.
Thats what is called "Crisis Management".
Yeah. We could use some of that right about now. 🤦♂️
This movie, Jaws, Patton, The Quiet Man...I watch these movies whenever I see them on. Doesn't matter where I pick it up.
Notice how the voice that can be heard about the lander design, while Gene (Ed. Harris) is thinking, was added in post-production to fill the silence gap and make the scene a little more explanatory.
I don't care what anything was designed to do, I care about what it can do. That, in my mind, is the true definition of a hacker.
Ed Harris is an awesome actor.
Substituting a blackboard for a failed piece of tech - the overhead projector - is kind of a metaphor for the film. Solving problems as they arise. I do hope that was intentional rather than the briefest of comic incidents.
0:23 and 0:38 the Earth changes shape
The Moon too. They seem to be redrawn in every shot.
Way too much time on your hands!
jturner7771 nice
i really wish you didnt say that. now i cant unsee it
0:29 actually
Everything, literally everything that was designed to do a job can do several other jobs, even if it was designed to do a very specific thing. Great quote :)
I like this
“I don’t care what about what it was designed to
I care about what it can do”
“They blow up and they DIE!” “LOOK, IM NOT GONNA SUGARCOAT THIS FOR YOU!”
New Yorkers don’t play
I'm always impressed with how flawless he drew on that board. I can never do that.
Ed harris best performance
See I love this movie because it deals with a real world problem and requires the collaboration and creativity to solve it. The classic "Put your thinking caps on". Literally.
No, not literally. Figuratively.
Honestly, it's situations like what happened on Apollo 13 and even on Gemini 8 that makes me want to rely on human pilots rather than just computers like these recent (commercial?) space flights.
Well - to be fair, if this were to happen on an unmanned mission, the urgency to solve the problem wouldn't exist because there would not be lives at stake. However, it would still require people working together to save the mission.
Ed Harris was basically channeling his John Glenn in Right Stuff. Restrained fury. Excellent acting exercise.
I’m reading Kranz’s memoir Failure is Not an Option right now. I’m going to have to watch this again when I am done.
Was the book good? I might wanna buy it too.
The Grumman guy shows up a couple more times in the movie notably to excitedly say "How about that LEM?! How about it!!"
“I guess you get to keep your job”
Ya Damn right
The people from Grumman weren't happy with the way the movie portrayed them, though. Grumman had an "anything we can do to help" attitude from the start.
My favorite episode of From The Earth To The Moon was the one about Grumman engineering the LEM. That's a more accurate portrayal of how Grumman was.
@@AH-be6bu "You betcha"
Thats an leader you want in the most desperate situation he points out
- what are the goals
- what do we know
- what do we have
- what are our options
And for him specifically he has to make the call and decide and if it fails hell be responsible
Just think,, somewhere, the people from NASA and IBM got together and had a meeting. "What should we tell employees on how to dress for work.?""""
"Well, sir,, I would suggest ties with short sleeved white shirts.!"
"That's preposterous! They will look like geeks managing a fast food burger restaurant!"
"It's settled then,, the geek look for everyone!"
Well it was in Houston, Texas
It was the 1960s, a much more formal time. Only a decade later and the controllers started to dress more smooth and laid-back in reflection of the changing times. This was showed on History's Failure is Not an Option: Beyond The Moon.
I liked the Plantronics earpiece-microphones that attached to eyeglasses.
Effective teamwork at it's best.
at it is best
If only these guys were in mission control when Columbia's port wing was KNOWN to have been hit by a chunk of insulation. Who knows if just one of these guys could have delayed the Challenger launch just 2 days following the freeze.
I find it absurd that at no point during my school years in History class was there a lesson, not even a chapter in any of our books, that three Americans were almost stranded in space indefinitely. I had to hear about this incident when this film came out.
I don't know why something like this would be in a history textbook. I understand what you mean, but I also don't think it belongs in history. It's a weird pop culture thing.
I mean it's more like histoty of space travel than world history. We barely learn about the moon landing, and that's all we get from space, not even the space station or space shuttles are mentioned in history lessons.
the chalkboard becomes another actor in this fantastic scene :- )
Ed is such a great actor! If he's in it, reason enough to see it...
Ed Harris in this film... was a god.
LEM is made of two stages, so they had extra fuel for additional burns, and once you get rid of the first stage you are dealing with a lower mass.
It's not said in the movie, but to make a direct abort they would have had to ditch the Lunar module in deep space. That way the spacecraft would have lost enough mass to turn around and return to Earth. However Gene Kranz wanted to in no way throw away the Lunar module, which he now thought of as a lifeboat.
As it would turn out at the end when they actually got a look at the damage to the Service Module, Gene Kranz ultimately made the mostright call.
When you think about how quickly they were going away from Earth and consider how much thrust it would take to stop and then reverse their trajectory, you realize why it wasn't a good idea. If you get part way through the process and lose power, you might lose the ability to sling around the moon, and then it's all over.
This movie is easily on my Mt. Rushmore for best scripts ever. Yes, ever.
Definitely better than any movie made in the 1700s.
Every time I watch this, the astronauts return safely.
Ed Harris is criminally underrated
I think he had a good career.
Trying to get astronauts back home and the overhead projector doesn’t work lol. Subtle but good
One little known fact about Apollo 13 was that using the Lunar Module's engine had already been tested on Apollo 9 a year earlier. So the work those astronauts did played a big role in deciding to use that engine for the whole stack.
It was used on Apollo 10 and Apollo 11 and Apollo 12 also. Saying Apollo 9 is a bit off in your post. .
@@gkprivate433it was with the csm I think
just as good old Miyagi used to say "Look eye! Always look eye!", "Look at the math! Always look at the math!"
I don't care about what anything was DESIGNED to do, I care about what it CAN do.
This was the first clip my professor showed us in our Engineering class on day one. Literally showcased what crisis management and effective leadership looks like.
I'm a humanites major.
This movie showed me what engineering is all about
literally
In real life, nobody went off on each other like they do at the 0:58 mark BUT that was the anxiety running through their heads. If there's one thing NASA did so well in the beginning it was NOT hiring overly emotional people. Everyone was forcing themselves to stay calm, think and not let their emotions go out of control, especially during the planning stages. But that doesn't really work in a movie. Still the drama does show the audience just how deep the NASA guys were investing themselves in the survival of their astronauts: no sugarcoating, just the hard uncomfortable facts and possibilities.
Ed Harris crushes the role as Gene Kranz.
Kranz always sharp as a nail, but this Grumman engineer is so condescending. The ability of a system to perform outside of its operational design has to be tested on these situations. I don't care what was designed to do, I care about what it can do. Perfect line.
Government staffers always have a degree of disdain towards contractors. This movie highlights this on-going relationship really well through Ed Harris' character.
But he's NOT being condescending. He's telling Kranz that it wasn't designed for it, so there's no way to guarantee it'll work. What, was he supposed to lie to Kranz?
but he wasn't being condescending, he was being honest...Engineers are supposed to be honest
it's CYA
the Boeing engineers thought they could use the service module to get back but Kranz and Gerald Carr overruled them the explosion destroyed that spacecraft so it won't work which means Northrup Grumman will have to pick up the slack to get Apollo 13 home.
This entire movie defined what it was to be a "steely-eyed rocket man"
Gene Krantz and the ground crew are the real heroes of the story, IMO.
I freakin love Ed Harris in this role
Lunar Module blows up and breaks
Ed goes to projector to draw a plan
Projector light breaks
Ed goes to chalk board to draw a plan
chalk board breaks
He'd take them all outside and use a stick to trace in the dirt. If the stick broke he'd use his finger. Why? Because he's Gene Kranz. They've never lost an American in space and they're sure as hell not going to lose one on his watch.
u can get good memes out of this masterpiece
The big circle completely changes from when he first draws it lol
My favorite quote from this video is "Gene, I'm wondering what the Northrop Grumman guys think about this." That really is so fascinating because Northrop Grumman was the builder of the Apollo Lunar Module, the F-14 Tomcat, A-6 Intruder, EA-6B Prowler, E-2 Hawkeye, and C-2 Greyhound planes! And they were all built on Long Island, New York, USA in Calverton which is still there building the E-2 Hawkeye and M-355 Firebird, the X-47C Super Pegasus and RQ-4 Global Hawk, and the B-2A Spirit stealth bomber! Thanks!
It was just Grumman back then. They didn't merge with Northrop until the 1990s.
and Boeing built the service module and the command module they messed up.
Ironically my uncle was transferred from Boeing in Seattle to Grumman in Bethpage in 1968 to design the life support systems for the LEN.
8avexp Isnt it LEM for Lunar Excursion Module ?
Grumman built the LEM because at the time they’d built the only aircraft in the world with two computers on board... the A-6 Intruder.
young project managers watch this clip and learn the lessons from Gene and his running with the problem. Just because you have plans does not give you the right to ignore problems sat there right in front of you
Ed Harris is supposed to witness another space disaster about 40 years later; "Gravity".
Lesson:
calmness trumps all other approaches to leadership
First Man: the spiritual successor to “The Right Stuff” and this movie.
No way. First Man was hot crap on a stick. Apollo 11 gets it right.
0:12 NOPE!
"They blow up and they DIE"
Not a single f*cking tattoo on any of these characters. Imagine that!
1:34 I swear to god that's a younger Richard Dreyfuss speaking on the left there. Not only does it _look_ like him, but it _sounds_ like him.
not possible sadly. Was working on 3 other films at the time. Mr. Holland's Opus being one of em. and if you've seen What About Bob, that's what Dreyfuss looked like in '91. But I can see the guy in the movie's voice being similar
1:50 me when my gf asks me why am I using a spatula to scrape the dry tomato sauce splashes on the wall next to the oven
It's something Cave Johnson would say. We throw science at the wall and see what sticks.
Deciding courses of action. People have opinions. The leader quickly and decisively says it isn’t an option while explaining why.
Makes a conscious effort to move past our assumptions about ‘what things were designed to do’
Breaking Cognitive Bias
Oh boy... at that point, not even the overhead projector was working anymore! !! 😂🙈
you solve the first problem, then the next one, then the next one after that. Until you get home.
That's actually how it really works. The Martian did a great job of getting that message across.
I remember Chris Hadfield talking about "The Martian" and saying that this is how astronauts actually think, that's kind of their mantra. You identify the most serious problem and then you work that problem until you solve it. Then you tackle the next most serious problem, that is quint essential NASA.
"Any questions ?" Great movie....
How do you eat an elephant?
One bite at a time.
Day Lewis, Nicholson, Pacino, DeNiro, and Ed Harris are the best actors since the 70s
Any list like this that doesn't have Gary Oldman is flawed at best.
I remember seeing this scene alot on the windows vista media player. Strange they included this on it but i guess they just wanted a something to show the capabitlities of windows media player.
Ed Harris was terrific in this movie