EMMM. NO. They destroy cities centers. Thats why nobody find interesting 95% of American city downtowns outside of East Coast old cities that were preserved. Highways in the outskirts can be interesting, even ring roads that respect the city core. But american downtown highways🤮
They're interesting for studying the history / growth of a city retrospectively, but the resulting racial disparities, neighborhood decline, and decrease in walkability, among others would make me shy away from them today, at least in north america
These videos have really helped me through some really hard moments, thanks man, you don't have to make these city videos, but you do, and I appreciate it.
You need dedicated left turn lanes, left turn only signals before the main green lights, and the ability for both sides to go at once. Essentially do this 1, main road left turns, 5 sec min/8 sec max 2, main road straits & right only, 10/20 3, secondary road left turns, 5/8 4, secondary road strait & right, 10/20 Make sure every direction has at least 1 dedicated left turn. IMO, The highway exit should be 1 right, 2 strait, 1 or 2 left. Good luck! 🍀
This is boring and only visible in the simulation at the most specific and detailed moments. I’m not interested in the minute details of highways in the game
Great work dude ! You should place a historic building next to the river in the begging of the downtown. That way u'll give the highway a reason to curb like that, and also would look sick. Maybe just a building with enough importance or maybe the government couldn't move the people living there for some reason. Great content as always, been watching since the Springwood days, yeah its been ages but seems like yesterday. Have a great weekend. Abrazo desde Argentina
as a florida resident, this entire series is super cool. been to a lot of the places you're talking about and its super cool to see them in cities skylines. great job man
As much as this was for earlier content, possibly have the monorail line 2 run counter clockwise as the tracks enable it and also it prevents holdups on the monorail loop, possibily if the monorail goes the other direction you could have an interesting flying junction (railway highway interchange basically) to send line 1 that way
Any ideas for your next series? How about a Pacific Northwest style build? Portland has a very interesting layout, being on two large rivers, lots of interesting highways and hills, lots of nature preserves and mountains (stratovolcanoes) along the outskirts… and the coastline… it’s a cool place
Just wanted to give you a heads up that the massive performance drop and choppy game play when moving those highways around is likely because of Adaptive Networks. I have been seeing the same exact issue on my end. If you remove the AN mod and move the nodes around it will run smoothly, but you obviously lose the AN functionality. I have also been able to temporarily fix the sluggishness by upgrading the networks to non AN networks. Kind of tough because I love the AN functionality, but I can tell you first hand that it only gets worse as your city grows. I had to just remove AN from my last 2 cities because of similar issues with other AN networks. Would love to see it get fixed. As always love your stuff, keep up the hard work!
I think that weird laggy thing with move-it used to happen to me years ago when I moved things that already had Network Skins mods applied to them. You could delete the affected nodes and the glitch would resolve.
I really like the spaghetti-ness of the improved highway method, it's really interesting to look at, and breaks the formula quite nicely. However, a couple suggestions for improvements to the highway intersections: At 15:05 I noticed you spaced out two nodes to try and fix the presenting issue, but I would recommend combining them into one big node. Attach one of the highway roads to the other intersection, and use Node Controller to offset and space out both highway roads to the point where they are next to each other as part of the same intersection. At that point it's like a pseudo two-way highway. Furthermore; At the central intersection (10:34), you could employ the same method of hooking multiple one-way highway roads into the same 'direction' of an intersection node to match your needs. I would remove that 6-lane two-way road, and extend both highway roads to that intersection, with a 4-lane highway into the intersection (left/2 straight/right, or observe what you need), and 2-lane highway out of the intersection, to prevent the merge that would occur as it is now. I feel like Sunset City will have more opportunities to employ this method in the future, so if you would otherwise use a two-way road to bridge the gap between one-way roads or highways and an intersection, try and become familiar with using Node Controller to do it all at the intersection, as I think it will look neater and be more functional in the end. Finally, as a couple others said, Broken Node Detector might notice some things that contribute to the lag; it could be something like weird node angles or short segments. Keep up the great work!
@@twodollarstwenty Biffa: proceeds to delete all buildings and turn the entire city into a series of concentric roundabouts. Then zones all side streets with "international" theme buildings. Centrepiece of Sunset City is now a teapot fountain with a Hugo statue looking grimly down. No but seriously--looking forward to that!
A couple things: The lag issue may be a possible broken node. I remember there was something (a mod or an external program) that allows you to find and yeet bugged nodes - I remember other youtuber a couple months back having this There is also under the i think the UnifiedUI mod (I think... could be another one) where you can not only mirror roads (i.e. you make One way going Left and then you can make One way going Right by mirroring it and seeing it how many units away you want it to be) but also being able to make better slopes and curves - might not match what you want but could get close enough to then shimmy around.
I guess I don't really understand why you spaghettified the movement at 11:06 to the port island, since you already had a heavy road heading that way. You could have continued that road to the island and created a set of on off ramps and access road for the two stroads coming into it?
In my case, I just tried to built a simple first interchange in dogbone style and the game crashed two times. In other words, doesn't matter if the city had 100k population or 0, the problem is general.
Mate. You've got to move that off map connection out to the 'border' with Georgia or Alabama. The new highway is looking great. But traffic jams straight in from Cuba just give my tiny brain a headache trying to logically comprehend.
That crashing problem is annoying me a lot too! I gaive up to play Cities because of that. Today I tried to start a new city and two times the game crashed when I tried to rebuilt the first interchange (with no reason apparently). I think that is a new problem, probably from the last updates or mods (maybe the new Loading Screen Mod). If you discover what is causing this problem, please make a video about it. Other players can be having the same issue
I hate parking lots, but I feel like that in an amerinan downtown you just need it to be authentic (especially next to the new interchange which area you said is gonna have a little more industrial use) Edit: also should allow right turns on red
I like role-playing in cities I just spent over a million on a subway system and it was a complete failure so I'm trying to figure if I want to get rid of it or try to correct the metro stations
there is a highway that divides my city into half. To go to the neighborhood in front of my building, I need to drive 10 km just to go to the other side.
On my computer (2018 mbp 15”) the game freezes almost every time I’m zoomed in and move nodes around. It gets a bit better when I’m zoomed out but it will eventually freeze after an hour or so. Not sure what that is but it makes the game pretty much unplayable (been going on for over 2 years). It doesn’t happen with node controller disabled.
Resultados de traducción it is a problem of the mod in the nodes the same thing has happened to me a couple of times but it also depends on the power of your pc because when it gets very slow I try to move away from that node and wait 5 min maximum and delete it with move it 14:00
that's being charitable. you're much better off getting off on 8th Street from 95 and driving down to Flagler lol. i hope i never have to make that west Miami to downtown commute ever again.
@@fergar0206 Depends on one's familiarity with it. You have to remember, it was originally designed to be part of a full loop that would have paralleled Biscayne and come back to 95 via 395, but due to opposition and lack of traffic, the rest of it was never built. For the very short stretch of it that DID get built, and what it connects to in the heart of downtown, it's actually pretty efficient. Sure, you have to know where you're coming from and where you're going, since the signage is lousy, but if you know your way, it's not that bad.
And? This is trying to represent Miami jn the eighties, and Miami in the eighties had downtown highways. Not to mention the fact that this isn't your city, it is his. two dollars twenty can do what he likes with HIS city.
@@RaccoonCityPoliceDept never said that it wasnt realistic or that he can't do this in his game, I just think it's aesthetically unpleasant (in game and in real life lol)
Hey does anyone know how he got rid of the « brown fog » indicating some pollution into industrial zones or landfills? Looks much better 🤙🏻 maybe a mod?
Am I the only one who finds the way highways breakup neighbourhoods really interesting? They're like man made scars
fuckin hell, one of the best ways to describe highways
EMMM. NO.
They destroy cities centers.
Thats why nobody find interesting 95% of American city downtowns outside of East Coast old cities that were preserved.
Highways in the outskirts can be interesting, even ring roads that respect the city core.
But american downtown highways🤮
I like them in the historic way, but in real life, hell no.
@@joaquincimas1707 people don't find american downtowns interesting? I dunno I love em
They're interesting for studying the history / growth of a city retrospectively, but the resulting racial disparities, neighborhood decline, and decrease in walkability, among others would make me shy away from them today, at least in north america
Just one more lane, bro. I swear, one more lane will fix it, bro. C'mon bro, just one more.
The life cycle of every US major city freeway
It’s a proven fact that more lanes always solve traffic. Just do it bro, it’s not addictive I swear. No bro it’s not a gateway drug.
When will we have like 500 lane highways?
You know what would really fix traffic?
*_TRAINS_*
Is that the last bro?
These videos have really helped me through some really hard moments, thanks man, you don't have to make these city videos, but you do, and I appreciate it.
You need dedicated left turn lanes, left turn only signals before the main green lights, and the ability for both sides to go at once.
Essentially do this
1, main road left turns, 5 sec min/8 sec max
2, main road straits & right only, 10/20
3, secondary road left turns, 5/8
4, secondary road strait & right, 10/20
Make sure every direction has at least 1 dedicated left turn.
IMO, The highway exit should be 1 right, 2 strait, 1 or 2 left. Good luck! 🍀
Totally agree!
He should watch some of the other youtubers how to solve traffic. The one from UK i have in mind 😃
This is boring and only visible in the simulation at the most specific and detailed moments. I’m not interested in the minute details of highways in the game
So smooth and soothing, keep up the fantastic effort and love into Sunset City!
As a Lyft driver I drove on those interchanges a lot... They were terrible!
Great work dude ! You should place a historic building next to the river in the begging of the downtown. That way u'll give the highway a reason to curb like that, and also would look sick. Maybe just a building with enough importance or maybe the government couldn't move the people living there for some reason. Great content as always, been watching since the Springwood days, yeah its been ages but seems like yesterday. Have a great weekend. Abrazo desde Argentina
as a florida resident, this entire series is super cool. been to a lot of the places you're talking about and its super cool to see them in cities skylines. great job man
As much as this was for earlier content, possibly have the monorail line 2 run counter clockwise as the tracks enable it and also it prevents holdups on the monorail loop, possibily if the monorail goes the other direction you could have an interesting flying junction (railway highway interchange basically) to send line 1 that way
Just realized this whole city is miami with the port and miami beach included 👌 love it
Any ideas for your next series? How about a Pacific Northwest style build? Portland has a very interesting layout, being on two large rivers, lots of interesting highways and hills, lots of nature preserves and mountains (stratovolcanoes) along the outskirts… and the coastline… it’s a cool place
The lag issue sounds like it may be a broken node. You might want to run a mod to check for broken nodes just in case.
Just wanted to give you a heads up that the massive performance drop and choppy game play when moving those highways around is likely because of Adaptive Networks. I have been seeing the same exact issue on my end. If you remove the AN mod and move the nodes around it will run smoothly, but you obviously lose the AN functionality. I have also been able to temporarily fix the sluggishness by upgrading the networks to non AN networks. Kind of tough because I love the AN functionality, but I can tell you first hand that it only gets worse as your city grows. I had to just remove AN from my last 2 cities because of similar issues with other AN networks. Would love to see it get fixed. As always love your stuff, keep up the hard work!
You should make a mini America with just the big cities!
we all wish. the map isnt nearly big enough for even a top 40-50th largest city.
I think that weird laggy thing with move-it used to happen to me years ago when I moved things that already had Network Skins mods applied to them. You could delete the affected nodes and the glitch would resolve.
I really like the spaghetti-ness of the improved highway method, it's really interesting to look at, and breaks the formula quite nicely. However, a couple suggestions for improvements to the highway intersections:
At 15:05 I noticed you spaced out two nodes to try and fix the presenting issue, but I would recommend combining them into one big node. Attach one of the highway roads to the other intersection, and use Node Controller to offset and space out both highway roads to the point where they are next to each other as part of the same intersection. At that point it's like a pseudo two-way highway. Furthermore;
At the central intersection (10:34), you could employ the same method of hooking multiple one-way highway roads into the same 'direction' of an intersection node to match your needs. I would remove that 6-lane two-way road, and extend both highway roads to that intersection, with a 4-lane highway into the intersection (left/2 straight/right, or observe what you need), and 2-lane highway out of the intersection, to prevent the merge that would occur as it is now.
I feel like Sunset City will have more opportunities to employ this method in the future, so if you would otherwise use a two-way road to bridge the gap between one-way roads or highways and an intersection, try and become familiar with using Node Controller to do it all at the intersection, as I think it will look neater and be more functional in the end.
Finally, as a couple others said, Broken Node Detector might notice some things that contribute to the lag; it could be something like weird node angles or short segments.
Keep up the great work!
I'd love to see you turning despawning off and sending your cities over to Biffa to fix. That would interesting to see.
I’m hoping to do that in SC
@@twodollarstwenty Biffa: proceeds to delete all buildings and turn the entire city into a series of concentric roundabouts. Then zones all side streets with "international" theme buildings. Centrepiece of Sunset City is now a teapot fountain with a Hugo statue looking grimly down.
No but seriously--looking forward to that!
You built all those highways to alleviate the traffic which was very realistic for Miami-Dade County in the early 1980s lol
ooh just started watching, but what nice vice city vibes!
Loving the new face paced style to this video
loving the content broski!
A couple things:
The lag issue may be a possible broken node. I remember there was something (a mod or an external program) that allows you to find and yeet bugged nodes - I remember other youtuber a couple months back having this
There is also under the i think the UnifiedUI mod (I think... could be another one) where you can not only mirror roads (i.e. you make One way going Left and then you can make One way going Right by mirroring it and seeing it how many units away you want it to be) but also being able to make better slopes and curves - might not match what you want but could get close enough to then shimmy around.
Thank you so much for the advice! I’ll check it out
and for the love of god disable toggle road binding so that curves are not created when building 14:26
I guess I don't really understand why you spaghettified the movement at 11:06 to the port island, since you already had a heavy road heading that way. You could have continued that road to the island and created a set of on off ramps and access road for the two stroads coming into it?
i miss when he actually expanded the city in his episodes .Springwood videos still the best imo
Much nicer bypass traffic flow. :)
How long is network multitool on the workshop? Half a year? He still uses move it to slope the roads 😅
you should make dry tortugas national park. it would well fit in with your extreme detail and design @two dollars twenty
I had the same issue with the highways causing lag/crashes, but only in one place in my city. No idea why it happens
In my case, I just tried to built a simple first interchange in dogbone style and the game crashed two times. In other words, doesn't matter if the city had 100k population or 0, the problem is general.
Easiest way to get straight roads is just to use a regular 2-lane road and then upgrade to a highway.
This game reflects how well ment solution makes city's less livable.
Mate. You've got to move that off map connection out to the 'border' with Georgia or Alabama. The new highway is looking great. But traffic jams straight in from Cuba just give my tiny brain a headache trying to logically comprehend.
That crashing problem is annoying me a lot too! I gaive up to play Cities because of that. Today I tried to start a new city and two times the game crashed when I tried to rebuilt the first interchange (with no reason apparently). I think that is a new problem, probably from the last updates or mods (maybe the new Loading Screen Mod). If you discover what is causing this problem, please make a video about it. Other players can be having the same issue
When will you give us access to the map on Steam. I'm dying to build on that map it's AMAZING
Driving on that interchange in miami is so hard everyone merging last second unsure of which lane is their route 🤦🏻♂️
Remove the traffic lights in the industrial
true america 🤣 great video as always
Yo do you have a collection you use for the series I really like the assets you used great video btw
Houston simulator
Also got a crash to desktop today using move it and I don't use those roads so it might be move it. Maybe there's been an update pre patch / DLC?
I hate parking lots, but I feel like that in an amerinan downtown you just need it to be authentic (especially next to the new interchange which area you said is gonna have a little more industrial use)
Edit: also should allow right turns on red
Why not extend the highway straight through the downtown, with no intersections at all? Would make more sense
He would have to destroy his new monorail 😭
I like role-playing in cities I just spent over a million on a subway system and it was a complete failure so I'm trying to figure if I want to get rid of it or try to correct the metro stations
there is a highway that divides my city into half. To go to the neighborhood in front of my building, I need to drive 10 km just to go to the other side.
There might be cims stucked on a node. Look for them and redraw the path /road.
On my computer (2018 mbp 15”) the game freezes almost every time I’m zoomed in and move nodes around. It gets a bit better when I’m zoomed out but it will eventually freeze after an hour or so. Not sure what that is but it makes the game pretty much unplayable (been going on for over 2 years). It doesn’t happen with node controller disabled.
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it is a problem of the mod in the nodes the same thing has happened to me a couple of times but it also depends on the power of your pc because when it gets very slow I try to move away from that node and wait 5 min maximum and delete it with move it 14:00
Maybe change your habit of building highway/road, to reduce Move-it mod to move every Node of the highway parts/any road node.
hi! is there a steam collection for this city?
Now THIS. THIS is americacore
Two dollars twenty what's your pc specs? I love your city its so nice!
what mods and assests do you use? if possible could i get a link to em?
ive been having the moveit lag problems for a while now too but they never cause any problems excpet slowing thegame down while moving the node for me
What mod do you use to walk or go up close to the vehicles?
Is it hard having to always switch out your assets and mods everything you go from Oceania to sunset city?
It’s kinda annoying but not a big deal
add highway sign so people know were they're going
lag is caused by pillars, i had same issue earlier
I’m not too sure if youve got it on, but I find that with TM:PE realistic parking I get the same sort of lag moving modes
Most pedestrian friendly city in America
When will you post the map to the steam workshop?
$2.20, Looks like here's a hardest redevelopment!
We Miamians call that "The Downtown Distributor." It's ugly and it's complicated, but it gets the job done!
that's being charitable. you're much better off getting off on 8th Street from 95 and driving down to Flagler lol. i hope i never have to make that west Miami to downtown commute ever again.
@@fergar0206 Depends on one's familiarity with it. You have to remember, it was originally designed to be part of a full loop that would have paralleled Biscayne and come back to 95 via 395, but due to opposition and lack of traffic, the rest of it was never built. For the very short stretch of it that DID get built, and what it connects to in the heart of downtown, it's actually pretty efficient. Sure, you have to know where you're coming from and where you're going, since the signage is lousy, but if you know your way, it's not that bad.
Let's start off today's video by deleting half the city - love it
the best part about basing a city after Miami is that if it turns out to be an ugly disfuncional mess that's just added realism.
what map is this?
nice!
I have the same problem and I found out it is a virtual allocation error that could be caused by no ram
I have the same problem with the highways with them crashing the game, it is pretty annoying.
Map?
nice
can you make this a playlist
Gurl, literally there's Network Multitool for sloping the nodes pls
What mods do you use and can someone teach me how to get them I am new
you dont need the upper ramp on your interchange ;) you deleted the other way because they can take the other connection but this way not ?
Please, do something with the rivers in the city 😭. Without a fence or anything is very dangerous jaja
How he leaves the rivers exposed here is how it was irl in Miami-Dade in the 1980s, cause I was there.
highways destroy and divide cities
Not a fan of downtown highways :/
And? This is trying to represent Miami jn the eighties, and Miami in the eighties had downtown highways. Not to mention the fact that this isn't your city, it is his. two dollars twenty can do what he likes with HIS city.
@@RaccoonCityPoliceDept never said that it wasnt realistic or that he can't do this in his game, I just think it's aesthetically unpleasant (in game and in real life lol)
Please collab with biffa to fix your traffic
Link to map mod?
Hi
Hey does anyone know how he got rid of the « brown fog » indicating some pollution into industrial zones or landfills? Looks much better 🤙🏻 maybe a mod?
Use the Hide It mod to disable the brown pollution look. Much better!
pov: america
save game download?
Highways ALWAYS Save cities. More roads = more traffic = more population.
Highways destroy cities. Even more so with intentional mismanagement. Detroit is a great example.
@@JohnDoe-le1cu Twas a joke.
hi