810NICLE Day 2024 - The Coliseum is even bigger than you think
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ย. 2024
- Happy 810NICLE day everyone!
This year's celebration is all about the 2004 storyline and the mysterious city of legends - Metru Nui. In this video (originally broadcast on the 810NICLE day livestream - www.810nicleda...) we dive deep into an analysis of the iconic centre of that city - the Coliseum.
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Hi everyone - I’ve got a correction
In this video, one of my calculations was the potential floor space of the Coliseum, figuring that if it had 870 floors like I previously calculated, each floor would reduce by 1/870th due to the tapered nature of the building.
However, after some peer review in the comments, it was pointed out to me that this only works if the Coliseum tapers to a point at the top, which it doesn’t, instead having a flat top at the stadium. This in turn made me underestimate my floor area calculations, particularly at the top of the Coliseum where the difference would be more pronounced.
Instead, what I should have done was account for this flat top by finding the difference between it and the base (both already calculated in the video) and then divide that by the number of floors to get my reduction factor.
Re-running those numbers again, we instead get a final potential floor space of the Coliseum of 1,662 square kilometres - or 1.8 times larger than the land area of the rest of the city. That’s up from the 1.6 times larger than the rest of the city I quoted in the video.
Turns out, the Coliseum was actually even bigger than I thought too!
Imagine how much of a beast keetongu is that climbed at least 2 km and fell that height AND SURVIVED
He Also was strong enough to fight *makuta*
He didn't Win, but he was better than most people that thought about doing the same
Dang, that Visorak that jumped off the edge of the Coliseum was falling for quite a while. Roodaka was brutal.
Some say that they're still falling to this very day!
in the books it was caught with a web net some ways down unharmed (as far as vakama could tell)
@@Definitely_a_Fox Falling Visorak: *thinking* I've been falling for a while now...* A few minutes pass* Huh... I've been falling long enough to contemplate the known universe. *More minutes of falling* I GOT IT! I now know how to save thek nown universe without anyone having to die, all we got to so is- *Sudden impact with the ground*
10:47 I don't know how I never realized this would be how to fix the field/stadium height vs tower height discrepancy until you mentioned "open air" and it all started to click. I had just assumed this was at ground level, but on the top floor(s) just under the spires makes way more sense.
Now that we have the measurements of the Akilini Field we could calculate the actual population of the city, as there is no way there are only 1,000 Matoran in those stands
The rent on the rooms in there must be insane. Thank you for all the work you do bringing the world of our childhood heroes into perspective! Happy 810NICLE DAY!
Turns out you can get a lot more ambitious with your civil engineering projects once you have access to magic metal. ^^'
Scale in BIONICLE is always so weird - the Coliseum is a building comparable to the highest mountains on Earth, while the city it's in is just the size of a moderately sized human town. But it's located in a dome that is just so, so, *so* much larger than it would have to be to house the island, regardless if you go by Faber scale or Farshtey scale. And despite that, most of the interior of the GSR is not part of the dome megastructure but is stuff like EP pipes and power cables and plants and actuators and generators and engines and and and
The GSR is one of the most fascinating fictional locations/structures ever imo. And so much of it still unexplored in both canon and fanon. And then you realize it is so fascinating because it's based on the human body, something all of us have, and which is no less complex and mysterious in its workings.
I'm rambling, but that's because I love this story because it makes me dream and wonder. And I love how much love and passion this community still holds for it. Thank you for this and all of your videos!
Happy 810NICLE day, gathered friends!
the great spirit robot is the best plot reveal ive ever seen and nothing comes close
Always a joy to see you get excited about these calculations. It’s like a Bionicle style to Game Theory.
Solid contribution to 810NICLE day
loving the final twist that it's a structurally accurate building comparable to a real life project
That onscreen note about the calculation being full potential floorspace stopped me from posting the comment I was going to make about the power plant. Well played. An excellent video.
Also, I guess I always assumed the stadium was located somewhere next to the Coliseum and just didn't appear on maps. But the top makes some sense, I suppose. Makes the maps more consistent. Just makes it weird to me that the Toa were able to get up to the top and walk onto the field possibly without being noticed? I guess that's easier on game day.
This video gets an instant like just on the basis that you had the patience to count 1089 pixels and Im pretty sure you had to do it twice to be sure of the number.
i imagine several floors are also turned into one massive room to hold larger project and exhibits, and maybe some of those floors you see on skyscrapers where they aren't really floors and are mostly for access to important structural bits
also i wonder what the wind drag is at the top, plot armor is really the only reason the coliseum hasn't collapsed yet
I would imagine they also constructed it out of materials stronger than what we have access to, like the various forms of protodermis. Keep in mind that the entirety of the island is housed inside the head of the Great Spirit Robot (with room to spare) and that robot itself is as tall as a moderate sized planet's diameter, so the structural engineering needed for the coliseum was as simple for the Great Beings as ... well ... as us building a Lego house.
That also ignores the notion that the city and coliseum do, in fact, exist inside of a massive enclosed space that, presumably, has some sort of artificial environmental manipulation to be able to control things like wind drag at the top of the coliseum. Though... even enclosed and controlled, the sheer size of the sphere inside the GSR head would mean some natural, or pseudo-natural, weather patterns could form on their own.
@@Dargonhuman i swear i remember weather patterns being a thing mentioned in the books, though there inevitably will be some from just the heat of the massive forge and icy cold around the knowledge towers (question mark on humidity because the sea around there is still protodermis))
w...wind drag?
they're inside a giant robot, what wind!
@@dusksentry5836 as prcervi pointed out, the extreme temperatures of the Great Furnace and Knowledge Towers would create some pretty intense convection currents.
@dusksentry5836 a thing they still have because it's confirmed that they breathe an atmosphere
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The Matoran could build a space elevator with that kind of towers(?
At least an elevator to the top of the Metru Nui environmental dome.
@@Bionickpunk i think that might be what that one really tall bit is
So ignoring drag and assuming 1G, if you were to jump from the primary spires it would take about 30 seconds to fall to the ground. From the higher spire it takes another 6 seconds after. I don't know exactly what the real fall time from either of those would be. You probably need to calculate acceleration due to gravity, how long it would take to reach terminal velocity, and once you are at terminal velocity how long does it take to cover the rest of the distance. And I don't know if a Bionicle terminal velocity is the same as a human. For that matter I don't know if they have the same gravity as Earth
Now I’m just wondering how much area is in the archives below the city, but I don’t think there are enough descriptions to really calculate that. But given how large Metru Nui is and the fact that the archives extended across the entire land mass and even out under the Silver Sea in some places, it was definitely a very huge area. And when you add the fact that there were lots of different levels of most likely equal size, it definitely makes a lot of sense how they could easily have a complete collection of every rahi known to the Matoran, and still be so large that even the Onu-Matoran who spent their whole lives down their could still get so lost in it that they would never find their way back out.
So what you're saying is the Onu-Metru Archives are the Bionicle analogue to the Backrooms?
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Ooooooh, can we get a Backrooms level just based on the Onu-Metru Archives?! Has anyone found Level 810 yet?
@@Dargonhuman oh man I never even realized that but it works surprisingly well, it’s basically the backrooms and the SCP foundation combined because of all the crazy monsters kept in there.
@@lukestarkiller1470 Oh ... oh I didn't even think about the Archives being the Matoran SCP, but damn you're right!
@@lukestarkiller1470 Do you remember the archives beast? That thing could easily qualify as an early scp entry.
I definitely think that a lot of that space was probably composed of giant rooms, such as the Matoran storage Vakama saw in his vision, the hangars for their giant vehicles... I forget where the Vahki were built, but it would make sense that it'd be in the Coliseum! Whatever the structure of the building, the scale is impressive! Nice video!
The Vahki are actually built in Po-metru! The Assembler's Village marked on some maps are said in the books to build the Vahki.
@@AzureLord707 Ah, thank you!
The coliseum is one of of those mega structures I wish we could build in real life.
There is absolutely no need for such mega structures in real life. Burj Khalifa needs daily poop trucks to remove the waste cause the building is so large and doesn't have dedicated plumbing. It's also majority empty. It would be an utter waste of resources to make higher and larger buildings. Better keep these megalomaniacal stuff in fiction.
@@Bionickpunk Yeah, but it would be pretty cool though.
@@thenutella8846 I won't deny that a sight of a megastructures that tall and large would leave me awestruck.
wind drag would likely say no
@@prcervi no u.
Another banger video Rahi! Absolutely mindblowing how big the Coliseum is! Bionicle has such a WONKY sense of scale for everything, and at this point its fully hilarious 😆
Love the work you do! Happy Bionicle Day!
What I'm hearing is that all of Bionicle was guerilla marketing for the X-Seed 4000
Hey, don't know if you will see this but I would like to know how the great spirit robot works. Like how the city's, islands and stuff works. Where are they? How does the sky work in the different places? A more overview of the matoran universe.
That's a lot of room for several dormant matoran waiting to be awaken by a great leader.
About the spikes, I've seen shots from the movie and the elevator-spike is a bit off, it's not like half of the structure, it's twice that.
PS: Roodaka around 3.4 m? Damn, I knew she was a tall dommy mommy just not how much, perhaps a little taller? Toa in movies don't follow same heights as their sets.
I think that a building like this is physically impossible in the real world. It's too heavy and too tall. :P
Protodermis can break laws of physic :p
After this and your size of Voya Nui video I can't help but wonder, does all this stuff actually fit within the GSR?
Hold up, why does every floor decrease by 1/870? (13:56)
@@mek101whatif7 the building is thinner at the top than it is at the bottom, which we assumed to be a linear slope for the ease of calculation. We worked out earlier in the video that there were 870 floors, so if each floor gets slightly smaller as you go up due to the top being thinner than the bottom, then that means the top must be 870 times smaller than the bottom.
@@theknowledgetower208 Doesn't that assume the shape is a regular cone and not a cut-off one?
It's babel's tower. :P
1. Want to get closer to God
2. Build a tower that reaches Heaven
3. ???
Δʹ Στην πραγματικότητα, δεν επωφελήθηκαν από αυτό το εγχείρημα.
Glad I'm not the only one who caught that...
Though, arguably, any tower of that size and scale would naturally share the same structural motif just to account for the physics of such a massive megastructure.
Movies didn't gave this structure justice, that's sure.
:+ D