Stokke Tripp Trapp 2 - Dangerous - Beware
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
- Another video of James showing the dangers inherent in the design of the Stokke Tripp Trapp high chair. This one has footrest in place. See how little effort it takes for him. He thinks it's hilarious, my stomach turns every time I see it. PS You can now get extended gliders for the Tripp Trapp, get them and use them! When we first brought this to their attention, they said we were doing something wrong. Shortly after that, they introduced the miraculous glider kludge.
I am a Stokke fan myself, but let's not demonize someone for pointing out a safety hazard. As an Engineer, everything has a pivot point, given the right conditions (stickiness of floors that don't give or slide back, height of force/push off, angle of push off, distributed weight of the baby to allow for the momentum...). I got my Tripp Trapp in 2005, and indeed back then there were no extensions, there is a reason why newer Tripp Trapps have the extensions. However, I still contend that this chair is overwhelmingly safer than most, it is more tip resistant than most chairs out there. Our blind love for Stokke doesn't mean they should be free from criticism, nothing is perfect.
I am so impressed at the number of people who saw your video and accused you of being ignorant for misusing the chair or being a Tripp Trapp hater. I think your answers show a great deal of respect, tolerance and tact. Kuddos to you for a very clear message with your video and thanks for sharing.
now i understand why they have those things sticking out on the bottom of the current trip trapp. Glad you brought this to their attention all those years ago (your son was so adorable doing that little acrobat move!!!)
Just at a glance I can see that you do not have it set up correctly. The extended gliders are not in place.
this comment needs more upvotes... and the headline of this video should be completed with something like "dont forget to put the included gliders in place"
@@FraggyFresh the gliders weren't available then. They may be now, but this video is 12 years old. When I assembled it for a family, working for another company, I couldn't get it stable, no matter what. Then I found out why. They fixed the design, but this was how it was originally designed. It wasn't safe.
Thank you for highlighting this problem. Quite frankly as a designer myself I would never have put this on the market even if there was a the slightest chance of it falling backwards. Even with the addition of the gliders I don't believe that this product has fully addressed this issue!
The design has been used in Scandinavia since 1972 with no reports of seriious injury, allthough until recently it has not been targeted for children under 18 months. The change in targeting to 6 months and up came at the same time as the expandable gliders, which should be used for small children, since children that small will not have the feet under the table ilke older kids will.
Wow! I am so glad that they brought in the extenders since then! We love our Tripp Trapp chair but I'm horrified by this video!
Thank you for posting this video!
Although we decided to buy a Tripp Trapp after viewing it, because of your post, we are better informed and more aware of the possible dangers.
As with ANY product, dangers will exist if the conditions are right for these to be present and it is our job as adults and parents/guardians, to make sure that we minimise these risks.
Again,THANK YOU! :)
This happened to my nephew when he was not even a year... he banged his little head really hard on their hardwood floor, lucky he "just" bruised... Thanks for sharing. And yes, my brother did set it up correctly as well... I also got a chicco "less cool looking" highchair because of that.
This is the exact concern I had. Thank you for the video. Toddler tantrum can destroy anything. My kid get to stand on the chair or push the table, lay back. Stability is one most important feature I look for
We just bought one and it came with the extenders. My BIL didn't attach them when he assembled it (not sure why) and we spent the whole week telling their son (mine is not even a month old and therefore not yet in the seat) to keep his feet off the table. I will certainly a) add the extenders and b) never leave my son alone in this chair. Thanks for posting!
I know the chair is in the only hight setting possible but it seems quite low for a child that age who will be able to feed himself, another problem I'd blame on design. Also, a standard booster seat fitted to a standard dining chair has the same tipping over problem. It's gonna happen regardless of make of high chair, height of table, floor surfaces etc if you have it at the table. Best to be aware it can happen (as this video shows) and be prepared (keep foot on chair). Good job showing video
The chair is not a danger - putting our kids 2 close 2 the table is! I believe that ANY chair 2 close WILL tip just as easily. It is our job 2 keep our kids safe and use common sense when positioning our kids 2 close 2 anything. Free standing, the chair IS designed 2 be extremely hard 2 tip, so pull the kiddies back a few inches away from the table if you're not right there and the risk of injury drops dramatically. Thank you & Best wishes for your son James... He's adorable & quite clever!
Couldn't this happen with any high chair?
I was about to buy this chair but after watching ur video I cancelled it !!! Thank you so much for this big help
I can’t risk anything on my child we love our children so much
Thank you for sharing this possible dangerous. It's really good to know.
Thanks for the reply. I understand your concern. I have a little one who just started using a tripp trapp and loves it. He is low enough that he can't kick off from the table however. I think there is a video explaining this somewhere on youtube. I would never want anything to happen to my little guy or anyones little one so in a way this is a good video to show what happens if they aren't used properly or at the right height. But to say they are a danger, well anything can be if misused.
The directions clearly warn about placing it against a table with a large ledge, and the chair comes with extra extensions to add to the bottom to prevent this. If the directions were read during assembly, this very thing could have been avoided! I notice you don't have the extensions in place, we don't have a table with a large ledge, but used them anyway, just to be safe. When used properly (like most well designed things) it is a very safe chair.
Thank you for posting this video, this is not the first time I have heard of this happening, and what bothers me most is that there hasn't been a recall on this chair., which I am sure will come as more children are injured as to the lack of thought that has gone into this disaster .
This model has been around for decades. I am guessing that few people have floors that are sticky enough for this to happen.
I am so glad this video has been put up as I will not be purchasing a Stokke chair due to this. These people are not "Stokke haters", how immature? They are showing people a danger to be aware of. One simple thing, if the whole point of the chair is for the child to eat at the table, then they would have to be close enough that there legs could push off as shown above. If you pull the chair back, then they are not close enough to eat at the table!
Thank you for posting this. I was just about to buy one.
Thank you for posting the video. It baffles me that other parents could be so mean because they haven't had this problem, or because their kid was not mischievous/smart/restless/strong enough to push and tip the chair over. One of my kids did this too, the other didn't. Parents DID contact Stokke, and they created the extended gliders as a quick fix, and added text in the instructions warning of the tipping. The older models didn't have the gliders!!
People, don't panic because of this video. The chair is perfectly safe when placed on a proper surface according to instructions. The chair must be able to slide on the floor. The extenders that are provided with all the current models will provide extra security. The author of the video did not have them because they did not yet exist. You can test whether it is possible to tilt the chair before putting a child on it.
Thank you for posting this video. I just got a free old school tripp trapp chair, that I was planning on using for 6 month old.. I'm definitely not going to use it now! This is too scary.
There is a missing piece that doesn’t let the chair to turn… I believe this is a very old model
many thanks for the heads-up. your vid still helps in 2020!
@jamestripptrapp Of cource children fall. All unattended children fall unless they are bolted to concrete. We've had ours since 1979, without a single hiccup. I have no problem accepting it might tip over when pushed like that, but so would most chairs. Also note that the manual (mine does) spesifically sais to not leave small children unattended "as the chair might tip over if the kid should kick off from a table", and also warns against high friction floors and placement too near such tables.
Yup this isn't a Stokke Tripp Trapp. A few things to note, the backrest of a genuine Stokke does not have an arc, in addition the angle at the base and the vertical column looks closer to a 90 degree where as the Stokke is about a 80-85 degree angle. It's also missing the Certified sticker which is usually located on the left side of the chair
thank you for the warning !
I'll pay close attention to my baby in the tripptrapp chair, sertainly now I know this
thank you for pointing this out. no wonder there are gliders now.
You're totally right! I was lokking for such a commentary, I noticed the same thing as you.
You are very awesome. I am chuckling to no end. Some of these people need to purchase extenders for their flawed brains.
@jamestripptrapp Wow, I'm completely amazed... I had know idea this could happen... So I guess thanks for bringing it to my attention. Although I would try taking the glide strips off... maybe that way the floors suffer a little more, but it's better the floors suffer than the child. Thanks for posting the vid!! I always thought this was the best chair ever... wow!
I've got that chair for more than 2 years, I'm now using it with both my daughters, ( 8 months and 2,5) and I love the chair!
I never had (not once) a problem with it tipping, it always slides back. I used it in 2 different appartment with woodfloors.
As another user commented mine doesn't have the high back like the one in the video. I don't know if this would make a difference.
hence why all highchair instructions say 'do not place near an object child can push from' or the like.
www.stokke.com/GBR/en-gb/highchairs/tripp-trapp/1001.html#:~:text=Brings%20your%20baby%20to%20the%20dining%20table%20and%20closer%20to%20the%20family
Thank you so much for posting this. We were going to buy one of these. NOT NOW. And the customer care you received from STOKKE sounds extremely poor. It doesn't appear as though these extended gliders come as standard. Despite a warning on the STOKKE website that you should always use them when using the baby set. Seems it a bit poor that you have to buy an optional extra in order to stop the seat from being potentially dangerous. Thanks again.
wow..thank you for posting this.
This thing is straight up amazing!
This videos is quite old now but there exists now an extension that you just add to the back part so it avoids this...
wow that is extremely dangerous thanks for taking the time to inform us
@jamestripptrapp - Here in Sweden it now comes with extensions as standard - perhaps thanks to your videos! Good!
Actually, they only come standard if you buy one of the baby accessories.
Hi, we are having exactly the same problem with our tripp trap chair. Our one year old little girl has just now discovered that she can push it back and it does not slide along our floor (oak floorboards), instead it tips just like in your video. We are off to look for a new high chair!
It can't be that bad a chair - it's been around for 40 years.
@TIKE25
Yes,maybe it is.But if the guy don't let the child do it,he won't.And the other thing:the extension is not on the chair.Stokke recommends to use it to avoid this..........
If you order the Playtray that fits the chair it will create the distans to the table enough that the child cannot tilt.
my daughter did exactly that. She landed full impact on her head. Luckily she was ok (we think!!) and it never happened again. It's one of those things where you just don't leave a little one unattended.
Our 11 month old just did this, this morning. He brought his feet up and pushed off the table.. WHAM onto the ground. He's fine, but he wasn't happy (nor was his mom). I just put the extended gliders on and hopefully that'll help, but I'm nervous about the chair now.
@jamestripptrapp
What a legal response would sound like!
There is nothing wrong with the chair's design. The extenders are for children of this age group that may cause this exact accident. Infants and older children are unlikely to cause this kind of tip over. It is the responsibility of the parent to purchase and install these "available" items.
Really its time for us as parents to own up to our decisions.
Its not required to have side airbags, buts a good idea to spent the money to get them.
Thanks for posting this and the other video. Our 19 month old just fell exactly as you have it in the video tonight in a Stokke chair, but I wasn't there to catch her. What a terrible flaw in the product. I even went over Stokke's recommendations on how to set it up and we have everything correct. I ordered the extended gliders tonight after seeing your post about them, but I will also not leave her alone in the chair anymore, even just across the kitchen, where I was tonight.
that really is frightening.
Perhaps some extendable bars from the base would be a good solution for floors on which the chair sticks. Relying on sliding to prevent overbalancing seems a bit too much of a hack for me, and a warning to test it should be on a highly visible sticker, or preferably a non removable label
agreed that the point is that the child can be positioned close to the table.
should have read the manual won't help an injured child after the fact. not everyone will read it.
As a mother of an 8 month old I find this horrifying, thank you so much for sharing and making people aware x
@jamestripptrapp This I can agree with, the original target market was 18 months up, which makes more sense anyways.
This is user error. Instal the gliders. The Tripp Trapp is great when you RTFM. Do not trust everything on the internet - including this video. And don't trust me - go find the instructions for yourself.
No it is not a user error. As written in the video description, the gliders didn't exist at this time. Stokke added them afterwards! The proof that there was indeed a safety problem. So DO trust this video and use the now existing gliders!
Gliders don't exist in earlier model just a few year ago. Stokke acknowledged the issue and came up with the glider as solution
Thanks for posting this video. We have a 4 month old and since day 1 have been set on the Stokke as our highchair of choice when the time came. We're looking into them now, and this is the first I've seen on this. Your baby does a very innocent maneuver that results in the tipping of the chair, and anyone who wants to blame you for that (or doesn't believe that it really IS a highchair due to its lack of tray?!) is just being argumentative. I wonder if the design has been changed at all now?
I was about to purchase this product but I'm not going to risk it! My child's life is more important to me than matching dining furniture!
When he tips back and looks at you it's like he's saying "Hi Daddy!" lol
This does not look like it has the slider extensions that Stokke are very particular about having fitted, to ensure that the chair slides backwards when any pressure is applied, rather than tipping. I'm delighted with the Stokke crib that I bought for our little girl, and now her little brother is getting a high chair, regardless of this nonsense. As others have pointed out, it doesn't look like a Tripp Trapp, or certainly has not been assembled correctly if it is.
I understand your point - I really do.The chairs are heinously expensive and one would expect that not to happen so easily.When I said free standing, I in no way meant in the middle of the room,I mean a few inches from the edge of the table, just enough for a foot not to be able to push off until the meal. Have you tried sending this clip to Stokke? Since you mentioned others were injured in this way,maybe they would in turn change their claim and include a warning for small babies. Best wishes!
If you read the comments, you would see that there were no extenders when the video was made. Thus, the design was flawed.
thanks for sharing!
Thanks! This is real design flaw and it is scary to see it.
@jobellea I hope you know the extenders didn't come in HIS package seeing that he bought his model much earlier. Stokke only fixed that problem recently, so he'd have to go out and purchase the extenders SEPARATELY. Babies do a lot of weird things and they are strong little people. For Stokke to change their PACKAGING AND INSTRUCTIONS, obviously it happened to more than one unsuspecting parent. It's not ignorance when the "plastic extension" doesn't come with the highchair you bought.
There isn`t a problem with the chair design.
Some of these people tables are too high, it`s designed for table with certain heights.
Also, floor should be smooth, like wood, so that when a baby pushed the chair naturally slides backwards. ie. not great to use on carper of corked floor like in the video. I guess the new exteded slider wood possibly remedy this problem when on carpet etc.
Stokke is aware of this problem, but hides behind the fact that you should never leave a baby into a high chair on its own.
Thank you
Don't put the anti slip pads under!!
Ohh good point. I just get one with anti slip pads....thanks for the tip
Child is too high up, no extensions. It's obvious the child is too high as their knees are pressed against the table which will hurt and of course will react like this to it. And is stated to put the extensions on the back legs too. Once again you fail to scare monger people into not buying a product.
kids' product HAVE to be safe, no matter what brand it is...
I'm sure my child would do the same!
Thank you for the video
you are right you not only have to be there but right on top of them. As it was we were there but sitting at a right angle so when we grabbed the side of the chair the angle of it just slips out of your hand and you can't grip it as it falls. What are these extensions. I can't find them?
What are those white things under the "legs"? Have you put something on so it won't slip? I had one of those growing up, I'm 30 now, and I have to say mine never did that tipping thing I remember pushing away like that from the table (...and lets be honest its how I still do it, its the only way I know to get my chair closer to the table and separate it from it, granted I might be able lo semi-lift it a little, but stll...) Many things are dangerous if used wrong... even the most innocent toy..
It's too close to the table and a tray should be installed
I guess I am curious as to why the entire chair doesn't just slide backwards? Right now my son is in a booster and he puts his feet against the table and pushes it just pushes him and the entire chair away from the table. Have they put special cushions on the feet to keep it from sliding?
Looks like there is another one at the table as well. Why have 2 if they are so bad? I think any chair has the ability to topple over if not used correctly. This one isn't being used properly and this is a perfect example of what not to do. I don't think telling people not to leave your baby unattended is hiding. It's just common sense. Like not putting your child close enough to a table that they can kick off of.
Where did you get the back rest for that chair? It is much higher then the standard one and the child is actually leaning back with his head against it to get the leverage to tip the chair. If it was not so high the chair would just slip backwards due to the lower pivot point.
You are correct. When I was working for a licensed and insured furniture assembly company as the manager, we were commissioned to put this piece together. Little did we know this piece was this dangerous and posted the video to our website to enlighten the less savvy. We tried unsuccessfully (with a stuffed animal), to get it to work, while adjusting it on a hardwood floor in the dinning room, and again on the tiled floor of the kitchen, to no avail. We finally googled the Trip Trapp. Bad News
Thank you for video ,i Will not buy for my 8 month old ....Do you Think the chair is ok for 5 years old ? Or better forget about Stokke ?
there is something called gliders that actually comes with the stokke to prevent this thing from happenning! this person did not use them
@bkejm Agree! It looks like he encourages the child to do that and the child thinks it's fun to do. This is wrong! Same as a Jobella said, this video just shows that he is not following instructions because not using extensions.
how long has asbestos been around? that's not really the point. you can have something forever but it doesn't mean it's healthy. This is a beautiful chair that has a major design flaw. They fixed it? Good for them. It still makes me question why it took them 40 years to figure out just how flawed it was.
hi, i'm curious which model of tripp trapp chair you have? I had a european 2001 model and now i have two US 2007 models and none of them had a high, curved back like the one in your video.
the european model had a wooden bar like yours, the US models have plastic bars sold separately. the 2007 chairs have longer bases than the 2001 model I owned. I'm wondering if yours is an old model and the tipping issue has been resolved, or if your chair is a different brand than Stokke?
Why did you teach your kid a game like that?
thank you for the useful info
To add to that:
Before you buy one do yourself a favour and check the internet for experiences of people who tried in vain
to assemble their chair so that it does not wiggle all over the place. Given the price point this is an absolute joke and we are shocked to find out that this seems to be a very common problem.
Either the threads for some of the screws are not done properly or the wooden parts are not machined correctly - this is trying to give an air of "scandinavian sophistication", reality is it seems to have been chopped out of a tree by some drunkards without opposable thumbs.
My 10 month old son fell today. 10 months old! Tis should not be possible in default child chair. Extended gliders installed or not.
Any chair would have the same issue
read the notice, it is explained ... fire burns too ...
😬 some babies wouldn’t do this. Mine DEFINITELY will. So glad I watched this before spending so much money on one.
There are accessories called Extended Glider that prevent the chair from tipping over.
This literally just happened to us with the Tripp trapp we were given. What the hell. Surely these should have been recalled. We had no idea.
I always sit next to my kids in this chair and keep one foot on the base. Never had a problem. Too bad your little guy thinks it is a game now :(
what kind of flooring do you have? We have been using this for 3+ years and had no problem whatsoever. When my son tries to do what your son is doing, the chair just simply slides backward... but never tip over.
I love my Tripp Trapp until my 26 month old son climbed on it, stood up, and it tipped over. He broke his arm in multiple places. My mom was watching him...actually no she wasn't...but she was the adult in charge at the time.
My Tripp Trapp has the extenders also. I'm really disappointed however I blame my mother and not the company. This accident could have happened with any high chair, booster seat, or adult chair.
Heidi Schmidt how horrible 😕 poor baby. i'm sure your mum was devastated too.
can't he push over a regular high chair too?.
I've read through most of the previous comments so
Wow, I've been very lucky, then! I have Stokke Tripp Trapp since my boy is 6m, and this trick NEVER HAPPENED (he is now 3y)!
I imagine (and hope) it is not so frequent, then...
Thank you for posting!
I apologize if my comment was perceived as a "self righteous and patronizing outburst". That was not my intention. I was simply trying to give my opinion to the claim that the chair is "dangerous" by suggesting a common sense easy fix. If that was construed as me lecturing you on duties of parenting - then that was misconstrued and again I apologize. I thought it quite good of you to post the "possible danger". Hopefully that will come across sincere...
Seems like you are broker of tripp trapp ... children items should be 110% safe no matter what. Children play, smile, you should enjoy it ... you too, enjoy moment with children if you have one.
Watch the video made by Stokke themselves. They literally say to only use it on a hard and even surface where if baby pushes on the table with her feet she can slide back.
I am not saying it was a bad idea to make this video as a reminder. But this is the case with all high chairs that sit flush up to the table with out a tray. It's not a flaw in the Tripp Trapp itself. You should have chosen a different design for that style of dinning room/floor.
thanks for this James. Was just about to order one - with the sole intention being that it would be easy to pull up to the table. May well stick with my daughter's old one. have you sent this to Stokke yet? I would love to hear about their response!
lol this is adorable! Silly kids are always figuring out something semi dangerous! Good thing Dad is right there behind him. Gives new meaning to trust fall! Designers should be more careful!
Extended Gliders?!?!?!
This is new 😉 didnt exist 13 years ago
wow thats not cool..thanks for the post, was just about to buy one online!