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CZ Czechmate vs Phoenix Redback
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 พ.ย. 2020
- The @CZfirearmsOfficial Czechmate Black vs the Phoenix Redback. What an amazing table top head-to-head. What do you think about these two amazing pistols and which would you choose? Please let me know in the comment section below. Remember that my choice if for the type of shooting that I do. Your choice may be different and that's OK. Both are amazing pistols.I'd like to thank Shoot Point Blank in Carmel, IN (Czechmate) and The Sportsman's Loft in North Dakota (Phoenix Redback). I appreciate their trust and support.Thank you for stopping by and God Bless.
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I'll take the Czechmate every time. I can buy a Nighthawk for the cost of the Redback.
Wow...that Redback is a SWEET pistol. By looks alone, I'm regretting my Chzechmate purchase! LOL
They’re both fantastic. You really can’t go wrong. But I would take the Redback all day.
@@MDpolo Did you do anything to your Redback to get that color? I was looking at their site and didn't see any matching your exact color scheme. I can't get over how good looking of a firearm it is!
No. The only thing that I’ve done to it was order a bunch of grips from LOK Grips. Everything is 100% factory stock.
2 drool worthy handguns. Interesting to hear your take on them. Thanks!
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment. I appreciate it!
How great the CZ’s are, the Redback just sets a new standard. Feel it to believe it.
I agree with you. Thank you for watching.
I disagree. But, we can’t all think the same or feel the same
I AGREE
REDBACK ALL THE WAY!
It is pretty awesome. Thank you so much for stopping by.
Thanks for detailed review one more plus for Phoenix Redback
Thank you very much for taking the time to watch and for the comment.
Both are really nice firearms. I'm partial to the Czechmate though.
They are both fantastic. But if you push me to pick one, it would be the Redback. Thank you very much for watching!
Czechmate is definitely cool. However, the closest CZ gets to matching the build quality of the Redback is in the Shadow 2 Orange, in my opinion. Not only is it similar in spec to the Redback, but it’s a finer pistol than the Czechmate is. CZ did a great job with it.
Did a video of the CZ TSO vs the Redback. It was a tough one as well, but the Redback prevailed. Again, all this is my opinion, how it works for me and how I shoot them. Thank you so much for watching!
What an Awesome Matchup! I've always been a massive CZ fan, but the Redback is calling my name.
It’s an amazing pistol. I hope you can get your hands on one. Thank you very much for watching.
The open division configuration with the Czechmate is what makes it the winner to me. It already has the frame milled, drilled and tapped for either an optic mount with a thumb rest or just the thumb rest, and also it includes two barrels, and one is capable of using 9mm major power factor for USPSA Open division, with the included compensator. It also includes the optic. I think the MSRP of $3,500 is pretty exaggerated too. I can find it on Bud's Gun shop right now new for $2,700 and I just bought a used Czechmate at a local gun shop on Saturday for just under $2,300 including tax.
It just seems like you're not mentioning a lot of what makes the Czechmate so awesome, and not talking about all of the other parts that are included with it.
Very Nice, Carry On
Thank you brother for watching.
Don’t forget to mention the Redback has a very accurate polygonal barrel!
Indeed it does.
I'd love to get one before the ban but for now couldn't afford one even if I sold all 3 of my Gen 5 Glocks.
Beautiful guns
They truly are. Thank you for watching!
In my experience, the Parrot version is not as rare as people are led to believe. A quick glance on Gunbroker and there are numerous ones for $3200-3500….They need a diverter on the red dot mount though…
That seems to be changing. When I filmed the video, the company told me they were importing 10 pistols into the United States per year. As of late, more of them seem to be popping up. My local gun shop has three of them in the cabinet right now and I’ve heard from viewers that their local gun shops have several as well. Thank you very much for watching.
Another cool review! If I were offered one of the three I also would take the Redback.
They are awesome. Thank you for watching!
@@MDpolo You're welcome. My pleasure.
Another nice video. Still on the fence if I should buy a Redback. In my case, it would be the Ultra Light because I intend to carry it. Now carry a Sphinx SDP, or LTT 92X, or P01 Cajunized, or LTT 92G, or H&K P7, or Graygun P229, or Graygun P228.
No doubt that fit and finish on the Sphinx is better than any other gun I own except the Feinwerbau AW93, or the P226 X5 SCANDIC.
Nice collection. For me it’s a no brainer. I love the Redback. For whatever it’s worth, I’m participating in a shooting competition tomorrow morning and of all the pistols that I own - I’m taking the Redback. Thank you very much for watching.
@@MDpolo
You could a bit of your competition stuff with commentary or just impressions directly after a match.
The finish and the build of the Redback is way better. Even though the comparison between DA/SA vs SA only like comparing striker to DA/SA, the Redback is more refined.
I saw a TH-cam Video where the CZ failed during a competition.
Nice table top! Good audio and lights. It’s hard to described how well the Phoenix is build. It’s like a Infinity or STI with DA/SA trigger. Well yes, a pricey gun, but it’s the Porsche compared to other guns, by the way its build. So, the thought that one can buy 5 Glocks to the price of a PHX, is like a statement that you can get a couple of Wranglers instead of a Cayenne. It’s a top gun and I have not seen a DA/SA gun that’s close to that quality.
Well said. It is a fantastically well-made gun. Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.
About the sights and the serrations on the czechmate, this pistol is really meant to be shot with the red dot and slide racker mounted, so sub par sights and serrations are forgivable, and both are far better on pure iron sighted guns, like the TSO or the Shadow 2 Orange. The not blended in magwell on the other side is absolutely not forgivable on a hand-fitted gun such as the czechmate. Great set of guns by the way, e very well made video!
Thank you very much for your kind words. I get your point but where I’m going to disagree with you is that on a pistol that costs $3000 (+-) I expect good sights and serrations. I appreciate you taking the time to watch. Cheers!
@@MDpolo i can’t disagree with that unfortunately, you’re totally right.
The Czchmate comes with all the goodies and msrp is the same on most sights
True. But in my hands and for my liking, the Redback shoots better. All personal preference. Thank you very much for watching!
I dont think they only make 10. On is for sale locally, and there's 200 on gun broker. SO I doubt they have been making them for 10 years and holding off lol. BUT youre not the only one who says that. idk where it came from tho.
My information came directly from CZ at the time of filming the video. It certainly looks like either they were sharing incorrect information or things changed since I filmed the video. Thank you for watching.
Well, per your “preferences” I understand why you chose the Redback. We like what we like. But, you were smart enough to also realize that your personal choice is relatively silly. The Czechmate is a superior gun just on specs alone. Additionally, you say that you’re not a competition shooter. Then why choose the Redback when it is specifically a competition gun? When making statements, you should under what it is that you’re saying and how it relates to the product you’re talking about.
Why I prefer the Redback? Because it is a superb pistol and it shoots like a dream. I enjoy shooting it, I like it better and I enjoy finely crafted pistols. That’s why. And by the way, not in the US, but in Europe there are many competitions being won with the Redback. Thank you very much for watching.
Man who cares if its for "competition" some people just wanna shoot high quality guns. Why do you give a fuck anyway. Sorry your feelings got hurt cause some TH-camr didnt pick the gun you like. Smh
@@GirthQuake3 I just bought a Chzechmate Parrot and I'm not a competition shooter either. I wasn't asked to see my credentials proving I was a comp shooter before they would let me purchase. They only wanted to see that I passed the background check and then the most importand part (to them), the debit card approval. LOL
The last one is the most important to them for sure!
I'm a Production division shooter so Redback would be my choice.
As far as comparisons go, I think a closer match would be the Shadow 2 or Shadow 2 Orange, which is supposed to be a step up. That one would go head to head with the Redback in the same division.
One thing to consider would also be availability of spare parts. Parts for a gun like the Shadow 2 are very easy to find but a more "custom" gun like the Redback...not so sure where to go for parts if anything breaks. I know the recoil and mainspring (?) are 1911 style so not a big deal there but other parts that wear out...if you have a big match and something breaks, you don't want to wait a month for a part.
If that happens, I'd probably go Shadow 2.
+jonas åberg Check out my other videos. I do compare it to the pistols you mentioned. Regarding competition and availability of parts, you bring up a very good point and I don’t know the answer to that. However, I will call the factory and find out. I’ll post an answer as soon as I have it. Thank you very much for watching.
@@MDpolo Thanks, I'll look for those videos. I've watched the one comparing the Redback to the TSO but must've missed the Shadow 2 and Shadow 2 Orange.
I have both. Kind of apples and oranges, since you’re comparing an Open/Limited gun with a Production competition pistol. That being said, the Phoenix is a far higher quality firearm.
I understand that. That’s why I mentioned in the video that I am not a competitive shooter and I’m simply reviewing them as two pistols that I like. Thank you very much for watching and for taking the time to comment.
I think you should review the Atlas 2011 next. Curious if MDpolo or Bac Anthony has shot an Atlas and thoughts on it compared to these two very fine guns?
By the way because of your review MDpolo I purchased a Redback SAO optic ready 🤑
I have an Atlas Hyperion and shot them together. Very interesting experience. Hard to beat the best 2011’s from a “shootability” standpoint.
That’s great to hear! Congratulations.
Did you run them....CZ all the way with all the extras. CZ can be used as full-on race gun with everything included for about the same price. Do you compete? CZ will out-run Redback and be more reliable all day any day. I would buy Ed Brown/Wilson Combat/Nighthawk instead of Redback. Oh btw CZ also has aftermarket Loc-grips.
I do not compete, but the Redback is winning a lot of competition in Europe. Have you shot a Redback? Oh btw, the grips on the Redback are LOK Grips. Thank you for watching.
Do you have any hands on experience with the Redback? Or are you just…
+Vic C. Jr. Are you asking me that question?
not same price range.....
True, so? Trying to understand your comment.
"Not a competition shooter". Then why compare a competition gun to a custom gun? Bias is very evident.
For two reasons. Because I can and because I wanted to showcase two beautiful pistols. That’s why. Thank you for watching.