GPU Technology Conference 2014: TITAN Z Rendering Demos (part 6) GTC
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2024
- The world's fastest gaming GPU, TITAN Z powers spectacular demos of smoke, fire and unbelievable action in Unreal Engine 4 from Epic Games, at GTC 2014, in San Jose, Calif. For more NVIDIA news, go to: bit.ly/1hsfQck
10 Years later we'll look back and laugh at this.
we already do
It's already 5 years
not even 10 years lol
6 years now and it already looks outdated
Say all you can.... But this man wasn't kidding we ARE laughing at this now
the visual advancement in gaming really does make me wonder if the universe is a just a computer simulation
So, I just looked into this Titan Z, and it looks like it's basically just 2 780ti or Titan black GPU's slapped on a single card.. And being as the price of the 780ti and black titan are $700 and $1000, the price of this new Titan Z should be $1400 to $2000 right? Nope, $3,000!!! Am I missing something??
that whale and ocean, didnt even look that impressive
I agree
That was without the textures and everything added, which is how it looks during production. The point was to show that something that took 250 hours to render PER FRAME can now be completely simulated in real time. So pretty much, this thing is a BOSS of a card and it will change everything once the hardware becomes a standard in consumer approachable pricing down to like the $500 range in the next few years!
NoQuo
can't wait for the finished product then
NoQuo Then when everyone has Titan Z capable GPUs the next big thing will be pascal gpus. which seem will be a HUGE jump.
NoQuo No that was very much a "game engine" version of the Life of Pi sequence. There is no way at all the Titan Z would be able to produce anyway close to the Life Of Pi visuals in real time. I wouldn't get too sucked into Nvidias sales pitches as a lot of these things we have seen before, such as the water physics etc, the only time we as a gamer will benefit is when studios can realistically put that extra stuff in if we do really have the power to do so. The more impressive simulations are run with just the emitter and a basic setup, if they had a fully fledged game running with AI etc then it would be more impressive.
Was the screen tearing during the game demo or was that me?
That was you i think dude, My crappy Hanns.G monitor handled it fine :P
maybe its due to the recording, maybe the claimed g-sync is not used there or not applicable now
I don't even know what tearing is. I think I read about it once, but was left none the wiser...
my bad, looked at it again, and sat closer than i was. you're right there is.... but i doubt it matters. it will be some sort of compression artifacting. i doubt UE4 will tear constantly. :)
As somebody who was originally (BSc degree) a Physicist and now working in Defence Simulation and Modelling (MSc) - I see the TITAN Z as a massively parallel physics engine that happens to, almost as an aside, produce coloured dots on the screen which the human brain interprets as an image...
There's no way I'm going to be able to persuade work to buy me one of these - which is a shame - because, while I can understand why gamers think they're being ripped off for the price if they only think of it as a gaming card and comparing it to their 780s - the ability to do Sparse Matrix type fluid dynamics and Real-Time near global lighting on one card that (only) costs $3000, as a physicist, I find that amazing. The potential for Scientific Computing type work is quite breath-taking.
The water-physics on the jumping whale looked ridiculously bad.
Very dissapointing ... I expected something awesome.
The wow factor is the physics involved rather then the actual graphics.
Freddie1980 There is no "wow factor" in the first demonstration.
There are some unimpressive and already seen wave-physics. But the "flying water" has no physic-simulation at all.
It's some simple sprites.
This is remarkable. I'd like to see video games of the next years using that technology.
Are you entertained now?
Wow. Tough crowd.
Amazing work NVIDIA. Exciting times.
I have the feeling that 80% of the visitors, are not graphic artist nor animators, cos if they where? We be hearing cheering clapping on each demo they see, cos this is amazing stuff, how it play in real time without waiting for the Render to complete it self in hours time.
Coming to you in a Nintendo console.. in 2030.
Ironically we now have the Nintendo Switch which uses an Nvidia GPU.
@@AlCatSplat yeah and its much better than this
4:18
"First of all....What do you guys think guys?"
....(oh, do we clap?)
(Yeah, we probably should, otherwise we look like jerks)
*slowly rolling applause*
"Hey, let's do it one more time for them to enjoy it"
(dammit no!)
Wow... just imagine having two of these Titan Z on a single PC... "EPIC"
im sorry Nvidia but the Titan Z is not a gaming graphic card cause no one really have $3,000 to spend on a graphic card
it s still a gaming GPU but a bit expensive
Syro not really it more of a workstation since those are the people that are really only gonna be able to afford it a gaming graphic card is affordable for alot of people to buy like the titan that cost $1,000 that reasonable but $3,000 is just a rip off. hell get two GTX 780ti and it will smoke that crap card
I would of its really that good for gaming I have a 4k monitor from asus since the day it was available to purchase
but no one will really buy it
mafiahalo93 I see where u coming from
Unreal engine 4!!! WOW it looks great.
Not really, check out cryengine 3
Joseph Neck I posted this comment on an Nvidia video, I love technology, of course I have checked it out. Cry engine 3 looks good but not as good as the new Unreal Engine for indoor spaces.
I heard the word "Rendermam" and my brain went "Is that like Endermans dad?"
I'm such a goof.
having a good and very accurate simulation is a good goal, but making it less expensive, and more available should be a better goal.
is not for gaming...
thebunnieskiller
what part of my comment did i say that its for gaming....
tonton9598
This card is for people who have the money and demand the best, not for the average consumer
Max Harryson
yes but I'm sure there might be some smaller businesses who need this technology but only has rather limited budgets for it
This IS cheaper compared to traditional rendering methods for a CG animation company. This means every artist doesn't have to have their own expensive power PC. It also saves money on licensing, you don't have to buy a copy of the rendering software for each artist, you buy one copy that runs virtually on your GRID server and is used by your entire art team on any standard computer, meaning you don't have to have a dedicated workstation with a Tesla card for each artist. Depending on the size of your team it will save a lot of money for your company. There is a threshold for that profit margin and the bigger your company, the more you save from the traditional method. Small teams will have a harder time justifying the costs of renting a grid server.
wow that demo at the end was unbelievably
anti-climatic....
the unreal 4 demo? i thought it sucked ass, it barely showed any fizzix
Looked like they were softly tapping eachother.
THE DEMO IS FROM THE MOVIE (The life of pie)
I was watching the trailer for The Animatrix the other day and saw the "Final Flight of the Osiris" clips. It's amazing that just ten years after that came out that real-time computer graphics actually look way better than the pre-rendered CG in that movie.
The unreal engine 4 demo was tearing it's balls off.
What kind of issues do you guys have with memory access using particles? I know this is old, but it's still beautiful work. Well done.
(And
In that last simulation where everything was compiled...where was the wall he talked about ? the one that got destroyed ? Didn't saw any destruction, only fighting, even if something got hit against wall and I saw rubble, yet I didn't saw what I wanted, camera always went either down of switched off...or something was in front, and only rubble was visible falling off...yet not so real anyway. I did not see any destruction simulation...
NVIDIA sell the most powerful GPU's in history.. yet.. you are unable to provide us with 1080p youtube videos... why?
This card is finally a workstation card with gaming power too.. so its for professional people.. for gaming, people should stick to 780/780ti if they really want Nvidia..
Aside this, very very very good presentation from the CEO as always...
Did Nvidia created rendering software specifically for this demo or did they use something that's on the market?
When will the full version become available, I am thinking about how it could be modified to make aerodynamics in a game
Serious question here... Would this card or a normal Titan work well for someone who needs a workstation PC and do gaming on the side? Is the Titan series supposed to be a hybrid or sort?
That simulation looks like it would be fun to mess around with. But you would need some crazy power for that quality and resolution. The physics would probably be pretty similar though. Is that an open free software or is it just some custom software they used for a demo?
The quote at 4:54 sums up this video quite nicely.
can you render the CG 30yrs ago (require 1.5 hour to render each frame at that time) in real ime (30FPS) now?(in a pc)
HEY does the smoke simulation in 6:27 is it already out with physx? i mean like the smoke effect on assasins creed IV and some other games if not whats the diference?
Indeed it was out, but now it can interact with other physics particles too, creating combined resultant simulation, no need of animation. I think?
Nvidia should ask Crytek back for partnership again
*****
I know, but CryEngine is meant for PC
Although it is true that everyone will go for AMD for more profit
*****
well,
AMD: Good price for performance but I heard that many people having overheating problem, maybe related to drivers
Nvidia: Good stability but more expensive
I am now using GeForce 210 (the only card that my HTPC can support, it has 180w only) and still no problems after few years lol
I may get a new PC with 770 when I have money
*****
Don't know, but it seems to be vice versa for me
Had trouble with most UE3 games like Dino Horde and Viscera Cleanup Detail, but Crysis 2 gave me a low but stable framerate
Where can i download the graphic demo in the video?
This shit is so sick. Recreating the actual laws of physics and nature in a virtual world is astonoshing. I need to get into this biz fast
so what does the titan z has to do with these simulations that other cards cant do??
Im kind of wondering whats the base of the render time :|?
I didn't really get it that
why in the very beginning he mentioned that the pixar's 3D image took 1.5hours to render, then the whale image took 48 hour to simulate, and 250 hours to render each frame.
But in the demo the whale animation took only like a minutes to finish all the renders.
Can anyone explain more about this?
I would appreciate if someone can teach me more about this.
Thank you! :)
Amazing presentation, UE4 Looks amazing!
When is the smoke demo being released to the public?
What is the name of the user interface that they are using on this demo?
how about a link to a video with less compression going on? what they saw there must have been better than what I see here
Can't wait to see this kind of thing in action in games.
Sweet demos. Also lets give it up for Paul.
His name is 폴
Love the spec's. Mind blowing
Is it true that pci express 3.0 cards work on pci express 2.0 slots? If so is there a difference in performance?
1.yes.
2. no
***** Thanks for letting me know. I guess I should wait for the 800 series and buy something then. I always thought my board was outdated. It has PCI express 2.0.
nah pcie 3.0 is fairly new and it only makes like 1- 2% difference if its atleast 8x
anyone remember his ps3 E3 presentation. I'll never forget his reality synthesizer talk. The only time ive seen fire explosion animation like this was in the original uncharted 1. The fire cloud to smoke mushroom looked amazing.
Get 2 Titan Blacks for 1000$ more in Titan Z
or
Get 2 R9 290X in R9 295X2 1500$ (almost same performance as Titan Z, but half the price)
Nvidia, you dropped the ball with Titan Z
2 Titan Black has only max 6GB of VRAM, the Z has 12GB, and more optimization than the SLI
crow houdo VRAM can be added and R9 295X2 is so well done so that it reflects almost double the performance in games (In Proffesional grade its easier) + Nvidia SUCKS at OpenCL compared to AMD, which is widely used by proffesionals
7MGTESupraTurboA Titan z is a dual gpu, 1 card with two gk110 chips is already in sli with 6gb vram for each chip. the only difference when compared to Titan black sli is that it's a single card vs two cards and u can only have 2 titan z in a pc.
Marcuss2 D... Did you just say VRAM can be added to your card? I... What? It's also extremely stupid that you compared a dual GPU card to a SINGLE GPU card.
Canadian Raccoon Conundrum First of all the r9 295x2 destroys the Titan Z when it comes to the price, apart from the brand loyal and mislead people no one will buy the titan z as it costs way more than NVidia's own Titan Black sli, it's not like people have only 1 gpu expansion slot. And why do people think titan z is a single chip card, it has two fully enabled kepler chips with 6gb vram for each chip, it's titan black sli on 1 card nothing different or new her move along. And what Marcuss2 meant by "memory can be added" is that non reference pcb cards like sapphire can have more ram than the reference design like this single r9 290x www.anandtech.com/show/7860/cebit-2014-sapphire-shows-two-r9-290x-8gb-gddr5-gpus however I can't remember a dual gpu with more vram than reference. IMO the Titan, Titan black and Titan Z are useless gaming cards, when the 780 ti was launched it was the Titan killer but no NVidia had to revive it, apart from the 6gb vram (use full at resolutions over 2560x1440) and better compute performance it has nothing different from the 780 ti, it's NVidia's marketing strategy to not make a 6gb 780 ti coz then no gamer will pay extra for the Titan Compute performance and they will lie collecting dust on the retailers shelves.
Woah... That, that is really amazing and also really good news! We're reaching a point in computer-graphics development in which 'how realistic' or 'how powerful' a computer is won't matter anymore. It's like what the camera did to painting, because soon we can stop worrying about visual fidelity and concentrate on the quality of the piece itself. This could mean better games and animated films for us in the future!
Damn right
where to download these demos?
This subway demo comes with UE4 but without those men fighting.
Fabulous, I learn a lot about light simulation and this is so realistic.
I love these keynotes, they give me an Apple like feeling
msi gtx 750 ti OC 2gb or gtx 650 ti boost 2gb?
why is there no 1080p on this video? what gives!?
where can i get this simulator ? this is butifull
no Freecell demo?
So much tearing during the unreal 4 simulation
one of those rare situations when the demo software doesn't even scratch the capabilities of the hardware. The TZ is a beast.... :|
I myself have a gtx 780 and tried to build a demo similar to this one on the unreal engine 4, and it ran at 100 fps.
EIRTeam
Lol ofc
EIRTeam I'm using epic's demo in that pic!
EIRTeam
yeah but that demo shown in this video is not the one which ships with UE4
I know, but i was just answering you.
So what about that old smoke box nvidia demo?
Smoke and fog with full physics is something I've been waiting on for a long time. Been wondering why they haven't done that yet.
Nice, i can't wait to buy this card 10 years from now when its obsolete.
i cant wait to start using this tech for game design
the simulation programe name please
And for a limited time offer get 2 gtx titan for the price of 3, you won't find this amazing deal anytime soon, hurry up! While supplies last
lol the smoke doesnt look any different from the 8800 demo from like 6 years ago
Exactly!
Its the fact that it's being rendered in real time.
Also the difference between laying grid lines and using data to coordinate the particles is HUGE!
It's replicating how smoke behaves in the real world using algorithms, absolutely magical.
Also I have a 290X Sapphire and she sure as hell can't render at even half that speed. I get such bad latency if I were to throw smoke...
A 30sec clip for an animation takes almost about 45 min to render out.
could agree more *****
Exactly It's not faked... It actual real physics being computed here. Like inserting that gravity is 9.8 meter/s....
so amazing
who said it was faked?
the 8800 smoke demo is also being rendered in real time because you control it lmao
im Happy with my GTX 680´s SLI, no need a Titan :\
i'm happy with my gtx 750ti. i can play every game i want and i have never laggg.
yea, a nice Card to
Why isn't this available in 4K?...
I don't think this card is specified just for gamers but rather to developers and video editors but I think the real time particle demo was the best part. That whale demo is kinda lackluster, I'm sure they worked hard on it but it's just not pretty imo. Other than that I love this. If you're complaining about the price this card likely wasn't made for you.
+Justin Wilson It shows how fast they could do the physics compared to before, not the graphics.
3000 dollars ladies and gentlemen
but for 2000 you get 2 titans with the same performance.
Jan Rohrauer and even more screen tearing.
Where as when you put them both into SLI theres a 80% chance it wont work on a game/program or whatever
Jan Rohrauer I got no clue? you people throw together shit and dont even add all the other variables into the game.
Jan Rohrauer just gtfo if u wanna be ignorant
You can get two Titan Black Editions for $2400 which would be the same performance however you'll need a massive power supply.
This has almost nothing to do with end users playing the games like most people in the comments are talking about. It allows a developer to set things up easier and get better effects. This helps not having to bake simulations for your product.
Of course, you don't need the Titan Z card, they're just using it as an example to sell them.
Can it blend?
Can I upgrade my gpu? I have Envy 23 d200ej (All in one pc), GeForce 630M.
If I can, to what?
Unfortunately all in one PCs are a lot like laptops, in that they use smaller versions of the GPUs that you can't buy from retailers. So unfortunately you won't be able to upgrade it. :c
Lawrance Devlin You actually can buy them from retailers but they are usually overpriced as hell and not worth it at all.
You might not be able to upgrade your GPU, but if that is you in the portrait picture, you can come over to my place and we can get jiggy XD
TheVanillatech Holy shit the thirst is real.
CalculuS
Worth a try ... ;)
So what can this mean for the future of computer animators?
Will game play ever look as good as these demo that look astonishing?
Everyone is trippin' at the cost of this thing. It's not about if we can afford one, it's the fact that Developers and companies will now have more power then ever before to make insane games!
That whale demo looked like arse
3 Dollars and 50 Cents Yeah, that sucked. The rest was great though.
3 Dollars and 50 Cents It was to show how fast they could do the physics compared to before, not the graphics.
+3 Dollars and 50 Cents That was a real-time demo - what'd you expect? Simulating water with particles and light is extremely expensive.
+3 Dollars and 50 Cents 1/60th of a second vs multiple hours? I say that demo proved a lot.
+3 Dollars and 50 Cents you obviously do not know what they where showing and have no understanding on what it takes to do a simulation like that. for real time that was great
Wow that unreal engine demo looks incredible. He said that's why they built the Titan z, does that mean a gtx 780 wouldn't be sufficient to run smth like that at playable fps at 1080p? If so I should sell it while its worth smth so that I could afford a Titan z later
It was more of a showcase of simulations, so the 780 would be able to run it more or less. The simulations shown are not maxing out the Titan Z, not even making it sweat. They just shown off what the card / Nvidia technologies are capable of.
1080p is easy nowadays. Should be fine. But some gamers want 3 monitor setup or 4k displays. Those are the guys looking for the extra GPU horsepower. 1080p is easily doable.
A 7870 or r270 can barely keep 60fps in BF4 in 1080p. So that depends on the game as well. I think it's another 3-4 years when we will be able to play 1080 on solid 60fps on mid-high cards. Currently, 1080p maxed out graphics are still premium stuff. (You need an R280 or R290, or a 780 for that.)
So it takes about 10 and a half days per frame?
I dont understand why does it take so long? It really didn't even look that amazing if you ask me.
It could of used some textures or somthing...
Is it just me or was there screen tearing on that unreal demo?
can it run minecraft?
I think no
Arthur Spark ok then i'm not going to buy it
Is it just me or does the unreal engine 4 demo look some what familiar aren't those guys fighting in the scene, from the first unreal engine 4 demo called the infiltrator and the subway looks very much like the one used for the tegra k1 demo.
I wonder how this compares to the Quadro K5000 or K6000...the gpu workhorse for professional content creators.
what simulation did they do, I wanna download it
KizzaGames 2 You can learn more about PhysX FleX here: developer.nvidia.com/physx-flex
NVIDIA The flex demo is something of my dream because im a real nerd for real-time physics simulation and all that but sadly i can't even open FleX. Im guessing its because my computer can't handle or something.
NVIDIA But wheres the smoke one in the flex demo? And the fire one?
I don't know
Nvidia FLEX tech demo is similar but doesnt involve particle FX
Nice! Really want this card.
Thank God for Nvidia! They are going to make gaming more real and alive!
Amazing but... where are the foam and the weaves impact result is weak.
dat tearing 12:53 xD
Is This Better Or The Coming Gtx 980 ?
But will it blend?
Sie Sind ein guter Schauspieler !!!!
3:10 link to the thing he was talking about?
Now the unreal engine 4 integrates nvidia gameworks?
*Looks down in shame*
It just means if you want to you can.
Insurgentgaming But Gameworks is there answer to mantle?
Gameworks is just a way to convince people to purchase nividias cards, for a game engine to support it just means it can easily be integrated into a game created on that game engine.
+3xclu5ive Haha, no Gameworks is not an answer to Mantle. Gameworks is an effects package including FLEX, PhysX, HBAO+, TXAA and more Nvidia developed visual effects, Mantle is an API. They are nothing a like, ya dip.
odobenus159 Okay sorry.
Waiting for the Maxwells this summer thx.
WOW.
A Titan Black is good enough, well probably advanced enough for a long, long time.
That's gonna be amazing for workstations damn
The screen zooming was nauseating. You would expect that an advanced graphics demonstration wouldn't have such a basic display issue. Cool rendering though.
"I'm getting wet up here" -Nvidia spokesman
*nvidia ceo
+Finn Light omg when he said that i rofl
Same here!
As a gamer I just wanna wait a little longer for something with hybrid cooling ;)
Most of this could be SIMULATED by a Intel processor, i dont think that Titan Z is worth it
I don't think you heard him say it, but these simulations are running on the TITAN Z's CUDA cores, which are not present in intel CPUs
Speng Rob I heard that. Im saying that if it would be possible tu run the simulation on CPU it would have been a bit better
The Unpredictable Jack You are wrong. This could not have been simulated in real time by any current CPU.
Tiago Magalhães Yeah, that is the problem. I didnt get that untill now i realised how powerfull GPUs are. I use it for smoke simulation and it is a bit faster than my HIGH end Inte CPU. The software i use is not made for GPUs trouht. Its impressive...i hope they release this demo soon for us
The Unpredictable Jack The thing with GPUs is that they excel in parallel problems. Rendering is one of them and it's how they got started. The Titan Z has 5760 cores. Of course, each of those cores is much simpler and less capable than a core in a CPU, but the fact that there are thousands of them compared to tens of them in the most beefed up CPU gives GPUs an advantage that simply can not be challenged in tasks such as rendering and simulation.
Omg. It's crazy how far things have come. Despite all the fancy new tech available to game developers, I still prefer playing those sprite based games xD
To all the people saying the graphics are not impressive. The whole point is to show off realistic physics IN REAL TIME. They could have made it prettier, but that's not the point.