Is The Kyosho Fazer FZ02 a TT02 Killer? Tamiya TT02 Modified Speed Test and Comparison
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 มิ.ย. 2024
- Is the new Kyosho Fazer Mk2 FZ02-R really a Tamiya TT-02 killer? In this video we take a look at my lightly modified TT02 Subaru Impreza's and discuss the pros and cons of this very popular RC kit compared to the new Fazer RTR rally car. Many thanks to Fil @poorboysrc for allowing me to include footage from his recent video of the Mk2 Fazer, see the full (most excellent) video here: • Kyosho Fazer Mk2 FZ02-...
On the face of it, both chassis are very similar and although the TT02 is a lower specification, it can be easily modified to a similar spec for a price that is comparable to the Kyosho. So here we go, the first of a series of challenges that pit these 2 awesome rally cars against each other - time for a speed challenge!!!
Many thanks as ever to my good pal, Rob @robbrennanrc for his camerawork and help with the making of this video. Cheers! - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Now that's the kind of challenge I can sink my teeth into! But Mark, it looks like your rally drivers were at the pub before the test drive! Are you sure they can manage this high level of competition? 😆
It almost seems like the Tamiya kit just isn't up to the high spec the Kyosho is... Perhaps the drivers are nervous knowing they're walking into the lion's den? Ah, enough blabbering, it's GO-TIME!!! 😜🙌
Oh YEAH Fil my good man! Haha but yeah, you got that right, I told those bloody drivers to keep off the Vodka!!! 😅💯 Next time they'll be on the wagon and told under the strictest orders not to hit the drink!
Your Kyosho doesn't have any drivers so I look forward to see how that goes for ya!!! 😅
But seriously, with a new servo you better watch out for next time, definitely GAME ON!!!! 😎🔥👍
IMO a large part of what "makes" the TT-02(or any of Tamiya's kits) is that its a dirt cheap kit that can be hopped up which calls back to what we are all trying to emulate: car culture. I'm not out there racing(nothing going on in my area) so a large part of the fun I have with RC cars is maintaining and upgrading; something that Tamiya kits give me in droves.
At least bearings, full alu steering, alu prop joints and cva's. So 80 in mods. If you must, invest in a type r or type s. The full tupperware bulk kit is all over the road for hobbist racing. Not really suitable.
Hi there and thanks for the great comment! 👍 I totally agree with you and it looks like others here also do! I get great pleasure from building and running my RC’S and then tinkering and upgrading them later! Keep enjoying the hobby! 😎👌👍
LOL the fight is on 🙂 Both bodies are nice but you get the fun of building with the Tamiya, I did notice did the wheels on the Kyosho seem off centre in the arches/
Haha yeah Mal, it's on! I agree with you of course as I enjoy building my kits, but there are many that prefer a RTR so that's a win for Kyosho for those folk. 😎👍
TT 02 is a great kit, I own a few of them, and I also own a few of the Kyosho, the Kyosho a better car out of the box yes, it is a little bit more expensive but if you spend the difference in the Tamiya, you still not can come close to it. Great video keep up the great work.
Thanks dude, yeah I hear ya! I do like that Kyosho TBH. But I think if you threw some parts at the TT02 it might be close to the FZ02. Especially if you used the Type-S as a starting point! Thanks for the great comment and all the best 👍
For pure performance, the Kyosho is better out of the box. The Kyosho also has the benefit of coming with sealed diffs, significantly more ground clearance, and has provisions for sway bars.
You make some good points there! Thanks! I agree and the only thing I can add in support of the TT02 is that there are way more hop-up options out there and they are a lot cheaper than Kyosho parts! Cheers! 😎👍
Now that Audi Quattro you have on the TT02s chassis handles very well. It looks amazing too. Better than the stock TT02 chassis.
Couldn't agree more, Allan! It's one of my favourite Tamiya chassis and superb V.F.Money as well!
The gauntlet is down! I love the banter between the channels 😄👍🏻
Good to hear! you enjoyed it Owen! This is going to be a lot of fun! Cheers! 😎👊👍🍻
G'day McMark and McRobonthecamera😁💃. This is going to be awesome!!, I wonder if others will join in, might be another speed challenge👌😃.
Thanks fella's for the fun video,good luck to all👍🦘🇦🇺
G'day Wayne and the lovely Sheila! Thanks for another wonderful comment!
I'm sure Fil will respond with a suitably excellent speed run - Fingers crossed! 🤞
Yeah it would be fun to see if anyone else does a rally car speed test too!
Take care my Aussie mates and hope the weekend is an awesome one! 😎👊👍
I used to run Tamiyas but no longer have the time or supplies to build. I run Kyoshos now and they are well worth the extra cost, quality is just higher. My FZ02-R got around 30mph stock, now has a 5400kv brushless and reaches around 50mph before I run out of room/bail. Add some upgrades and the Kyosho is a real contender.
Hi and thanks for your thoughts! I actually like Kyosho myself and would like a few more! The quality is excellent 👌. Sounds like my TT02 is going to struggle in this comparison but it's lightly modified so fingers crossed 🤞 😁👍
Ooooo this is gonna be good...GAME ON FELLA'S 😁🚙💥💨💨🏁🦘🇦🇺
You got that right my Australian Cobber! Racing gloves on!!! 🔥💯😎🚀🙌🏼👍
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May the best RC win🏁
Brilliant work, gentlemen! Thanks for the effort....
Much appreciated! Thanks for watching and leaving a nice comment! 😎👊👍
Woah, what a sketchy speed run! Good to know it was a wonky servo making it roam all over the place and not another mechanical issue to sort out. It is a shame you guys can't run them head to head but it should be fun shootout anyways!
Haha 😄 thanks Addam, sketchy was a kind way of describing this wobbly speed run! 😂 Yeah the servo wasn't centering properly and made it almost impossible to drive! It would be awesome to meet Fil in person and do this shootout but at least we can use the magic of TH-cam and have some fun as you say! Cheers dude! 🍻 😎👌👍
Only one way to find which is best....as Harry Hill would say! FIGHT!!!!!😆
Haha! 😂 Oh yes mate I remember those shows! 😅 All the best James and say Hi to Shelly! 🍻😎👍
Great video Mark 😊 how exciting, let the games begin 😅 take care & have a good weekend 😊
Thanks Kim! Oh yeah we are gonna have some fun with this one! I just need to get it going in a straight line! 😅 You too mate, have a great one there! 😜💯👊👍
Go for it Mark, I have every faith in the TT02, but you should have used a TT02s as fairer comparison, oil shocks and bearings as standard would have knocked his socks off.
Will do, Allan! Yes the TT02 is underrated I think, but a few tweaks need to be made for sure! I agree about the Type-S, if I begin to struggle with the stock chassis, the secret weapon is waiting in the sidelines!
Nice one Mark, you show them what it can do.
@@allanritchie1539 I'll do my best pal - but if nothing else it'll be a lot of fun trying! 😎👍
some awesome body shells for the fazer too marky i noticed good to have some healthy competion 👍great tests as always marky and rob 😁😁
You ain't wrong there my man Dre! The Fazer is a cool customer but the TT02 might give it a run for it's money! Cheers brudda! 😎👊👍
Hi Mark, great idea to do a crossover with Fil.
I'm on the hybrid side. Chassis from Kyosho and body from Tamiya.
Thanks Dirk, yeah it's great to team up with other cool channels! I like your hybrid idea! Cheers! 🍻😎👊👍
He he, that's a bit of friendly rivalry we like to see, Mark, and I see Fil is up for it, of course he is! I think both look really nice on the bodies and scale detail, I think maybe the Fazer II chassis might be a bit higher end, but haven't seen one in person yet... But you did have some issues on that speed test, it wasn't straight as in the actual speedurn contest, there I remember it was Fil who was wavering all over the place... And yes, I do remember I also struggled to drive straight once the speed started to rise, he he... All good fun, I am looking forward to see the next installments in this...
And we have another challenge, Peter CW-01 Creations' DT-02 challenge, I need to get onto that one, except I just got a good layer of blooming snow here again, he he...
Hi the Mads! Oh yes I'm sure Fil is up for a little Fazer Fun! Agreed, they are both very fine rally cars but I also think the Fazer is a little better specified. Haha, the speed run was more of a slalom wasn't it?!?!?! 😅 But at least I know from last year's speed challenge that a TT02 CAN got straight! I saw Peter Smith's new challenge and will give it a go. Don't worry, there is plenty of time my friend. Hope your Sunday is a good one!
Great video Guys 👌 enjoy your weekend 🍻🍻
Thanks a ton Mark! We had a blast making it my friend! Have a great weekend too! 😀 👍
I really like your Audi Quattro, have 6 TT02 chassis 3 of them are the S type, all very good 3 are brushless with 120amp esc's the others are FTX 550 brushed motors, awesome motors all of them.😊😊😊😊😊😊
Hi there - yes I love that Audi TT02! Thanks for sharing your thoughts, I really rate the Type-S too! 😎👍
Hey great stuff to kick off Friday evening mate. I think the main factor of which one you go for is whether or not you enjoy the build process and painting up the body. You do get an excellent result if you are Mark Bryan and I did a half decent job of a Tamiya Subaru myself but that was when it was lockdown and I had loads of spare time. If you really don't get on with that kind of thing or haven't got much spare time then it's great that you can just get the Kyosho out of the box, put in a battery and go. I think that the Kyosho chassis is the same as I had on my Mad Van and if so I think that the chassis tub itself is much more bendy than the Tamiya tub. Other than that it is fairly similar. Great to have this collab with Fil. Let's see what he responds with. Hope your weekend has got off to a good start. Have a good one mate 😁👍👍
Hello there young man! Always a pleasure, Pete! Oh yes well said, it's definitely horses for courses with these two, best of both worlds if you ask me. For avid builders and tinkerers like me the Tamiya is very rewarding to build. But if you just want to plug and play the Kyosho ticks all the boxes. Yeah the chassis are very similar but I think the Kyosho has it in terms of suspension setup. It's just a bit of fun and banter between us and Fil TBH!!! I reckon the Fazer will top 30 so I'll have to go out again and try to drive in a straight line! 😂 Same to you mate, have a smashing weekend. Cheers! 🍻😎👍
May the battle commence!!! I think a warmer day with less debris on the car park you’d be hitting 28mph Mark! Good to see this collaboration happening guys! Over to you Fil
Hi Craig, well I think I started something here! Good point mate, we need some better weather, a smoother road and a bloody new servo!!! 😂 Then we'll see who's boss! Great to be teaming up with Fil again, fun fun fun! Cheers! 🍻😎👍
I would def go with the Kyosho. Feels like an overall better and more solid RC.
You are not the only one with that opinion! I agree the Kyosho is probably better quality out of the box! 😎👍
Be nice if the Kyosho came as a kit as that’s one of the best bits of the hobby😊
Thanks James, yep, I totally agree, kits for me all the way too! 😎👊👍
They do have that but its a artr. No electronics rollers.
Oh, I knew this was in the pipe. LETS GET IT ON!!!!!
Good to see you out and about!
Now where is that hotshot!!😂
Thanks Paul, oh yeah the gauntlet is down! We finally got a dry day so we made the most of it out there. Hotshot chassis is finished, video soon. Just the body to cut and spray! 😎👍
Ohhh snap! Rally throwdowns!! I guess we could get technical and really dig into the quality of the parts in each car. But what about bang for buck? Also rtr v kit… I may have to find a kyosho to try myself…. Cheers mate!
Haha 😄 yeah it's raining 🌧 rally cars mate!!! You raise some really interesting points. I think the quality is similar but bang for your buck I'm not so sure. All I know is they are both fun to drive! Cheers! 🍻 😎
I have both. I like the TT02 only because near me it has its own popular class. If the MK02 had same following, I would pick it over the TT02.
Hi, so cool you have them both! I think that the MK02 has a lot going for it! Cheers! 🍻😎👍
I’m sure this will have been said somewhere already but the xv-01 is only £230 that leaves £45 for radio and servo to match the price. Also I know it’s rally ready but you did a great job on the TT02s for rally and even with what you need extra it’ll be cheaper and steering superior.
Cheers Nick! Yeah that's a good point and I did think the same myself. Both the XV01 and Type-S would be a good match 👌 but the concensus was that we should use a basic TT02. I might give the Type-S a shot later, just out of interest! 😎👌👍
I suggest the metal suspension balls and shimming up the arms. It helped for me!
Thanks pal! I'll swap the servo first and see if that sorts it out! Cheers! 🍻😎👍
Tamiya CARS are shelf queens amazing video not knocking on the tamiya brand i bulid tamiya miltary models for competions in cltheRc cars they dont hold up straight out the box for club racing
Hi Robert, I agree Tamiya models (including the RC kits) are excellent shelf queens. Also, the more basic RC kits like the TT02 definitely need a bit of work before they drive nicely! 😬👍
tricky this as i have only had a fazer mk 2 road car . the camaro 68. kyosho do absolutely nail body work . but i like both really . i can’t afford a fazer and i’d still go xv01 for rally as it captures the movement so accurate.
Hiya Dom my mate! Yeah I agree, both Tamiya and Kyosho make fantastic bodies. I agree about the XV01 as well, maybe I'll add that into the mix later! Cheers! 🍻😎👊👍
Great stuff looking good that , had my TL-01 Focus WRC out today after a full rebuild/upgrade and its great fun..not been run in over 15 years. Can i ask what may be a daft question regarding the ESC, it has the jumpers to change how it operates ie F/B/R, F/B,F/R which should i use ideally is it just personal pref? Just running the TL-01 and a Hotshot 2007 bothe with Hobbywing 1060 ESC.
Thanks for any help or advice.
Nice, good to hear you are having fun with a classic TL01! 👍
As for the ESC question, for normal driving you should use the F/B/R option to enable a more realistic driving experience. All the best! 😎👍
Having trouble keeping it in a straight line, I've had those problems turned out to be wheel nut too tight lol 25 mph not bad mate thanks for your upload 👍🙏🐱
This thing wouldn't go in a straight line if you strapped it to a railway line, Cat!!! 😂
I'll get it sorted mate, thanks for always watching! 😎👊👍
Great video my brother!!! Fil needs to run a few more packs through the fazer with some small jumps & hits, then and only then can one compare slop (it needs some miles on it to loosen up)... I'll be watching for this video but with about 6,000 plus miles between you two, how is this going to work? Hope ya feel better mate!!!!
Many thanks brother Bob! 🙏 That is an extremely important point you make there! Slop definitely comes with use! Haha 😄 yeah the distance is a huge issue but we can still do a kinda ping-pong shootout! 😅 Still struggling here mate but many thanks for the good wishes!
In germany the fazer cost around 300 euros.
Tt02 R cost circa 119, add a lexan, paint, brushed system, lipo and charger and u go for a 230 circa.
U can also find the tt02 audi kit with ball bearing and brushless system for 139 euro.
U can go cheap and get a tt01e subaru for 76 or a tt02 base kit with nothing except thr chassis for 54 euro and build something from that, and u will still be under 300.
Said that, the plastic quality of the kyosho is far superior, but in this moment one of the best hybrid onroad/rally 1 10 is the hpi sr4 kit or the xv01 tamiya.
Hi and thanks for the info, Enrico! Yes there certainly are many options out there for good money! It's good that we have so much choice in this great hobby. I agree, the XV01 is my favourite rally chassis for driving experience. Cheers! 🍻😎👍
Hello from Lancaster Ohio your show is the best on your next show say hi lol
Hello there Matt Romine! Hi from Mark from Birmingham, England! Thanks - I'll try to remember! 😬💯👍
Is there a centre diff upgrade available for the Kyosho, can't seem to find one.
Would love to see how the Kyosho is against a Team Associated Apex 2 with the rally conversion.
Hi - no i don't think Kyosho offer a centre diff for this chassis. Yeah, that FZ02 vs TA Apex would be a good match!
Great job Mark maybe save the speed runs for after happy hour lol.
Haha 😄 yeah next time I'll make sure the drivers keep off the beer! Thanks Kevin! 😎👌👍
The Kyosho Fazer comes full build up what I know? I don't know but in my opionion it makes fun to build up a car, you can give the car your own special paint Technicaly I would say the Kyosho is a modern chassis and speed is not so important. It makes more fun to drive a track instead strait forward for the run of max speed. But everybody can do what he/she/it want.
Hi there, well I must say that I totally agree with you about the points you made! I love to build my rc cars and drive a track just for fun. But this friendly rivalry with Poor Boys RC is also fun! 😎👌👍
👏 nice video. Seems the games is afoot 🧐😁
Thanks pal! Oh yes, bring it on!!! 😜💯👍
Having a bunch of tt02's I thought I'd get some b models and interchange them a bit to suit some rally bodies. Have you ever done a video on this mate?
Hi There! Yeah you can interchange parts with the B model but if you use the B suspension arms the chassis will be too wide for a rally body. It would be good to see what you can come up with though mate! 😎👍
Great fun Mark,you sure the driver and co driver you have in tt-02 weren’t just back from heavy nights boozing when your back was turned😄,sure I saw something where Kyosho bog stock was about 27mph? When taking price into account did you factor in radio gear aswell m8?anyway imagine another fun vid will come from this,just keep driver off the brown ale next time😂should be worth few mph!
Haha! 😂thanks Tony, I have given those drivers a right ticking off! I reckon the Fazer will be a bit quicker, as you say. And yes, the price included a cheap Etronix radio set. Hopefully Fil will respond with a speed run, I just hope a new servo fixes my zigzagging TT02! 😅😎👊👍
Sure new servo will help Mark fingers crossed,not done a speed run since near enough days of black&white🤣but vague memory of going in a straight line as opposed to power sliding aided mph🙂
Great driving with that faulty servo Mark, just how did you manage to miss all of those Kerbs mate?!
Hmmm, speed wise, I think Fil will nudge slightly ahead, to start with anyway ..... my Fazer clocks 27mph on 2s.
I love all the upgrades that you have done to your TTO2, it certainly looks substantially better than a stock one!
The TTO2 and the Fazer are soooo similar in design, makes me wonder who copied who?
But the quality of the Fazer plastics and dampers are a lot better.
Both have sloppy suspension and non adjustable steering in stock form, and both suffer horrendous torque steer, and both have awful flappy plastic prop shafts!
As for the bodies, I think the level of detail is pretty similar..... but the lexan is definitely thicker on the Kyosho, and substantially tougher (which is great when you drive into Kurbs as much as I do! 😂)
The TTO2s gearboxs are a lot quieter, and do seem to be very robust..... the Fazer mk2 is such a loud car!
Car for car, I would pick the Fazer any day.
But, the TTO2 shines with the fact that it is a kit..... and you get to enjoy the whole build process, and you can't put a price on that.
I'm not a fan of ready to run, the build is half the fun!
This is a great challenge, two of my favourite channels with many miles between them battling it out for the glory!
Add a Robonthecamera and a sloppy beaver and we have some awesome content! 😂
Backing a winner is not easy.....
To be honest, there really isn't a huge amount in it.
The Fazer is a better base car no doubt, but I believe with the Mark Bryan knowledge, experience and wisdom within the hobby you may well be able to come out on top my friend!
Love that cockpit by the way..... no Wallice and Grommit business going on here, take note Green Hawks, this is how the professionals do it! 😂
Looking forward to seeing this one unfold guys! 😊
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Hi James! Yeah I had to fight with this TT02 and did glance those curbs a couple of times! Not only was the servo shot but the torque steer was unbelievable!
I reckon I could hit 27 with the stock gearing so I might give it another go!
I thank you for your input as I don't have a Fazer and you know what you're talking about! Seems they are a lot more similar than people think!!!
With a few tweaks and a few quid spent, the TT02 can be made to run very nicely but in stock form it's a bit of a pig, as you know!!!
We'll see what happens mate. But at the end of the day it's just a bit of fun!
Say hello to Grommit for me!
Cheers! 😎👊👍
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😂 Grommit says hi to you and Barbara's beaver!
Yes matey, very similar indeed I would say performance wise..... although the quality of the plastics, stock dampers, and rather nippy 550 14T motor make the Kyosho excel from the initial unboxing.
Like you say the TTO2 can be really turned around, and with so many aftermarket hop ups available I think ' that' is half the attraction of this chassis for many people.
It's one of those cars where you really can notice the improvement with each modification that you make, and that's fun!
Personally, I haven't driven one again since last years speed challenge.....
That noise of warping plastic prop shafts rotating at hyperspeed, tires ballooning and rubbing on wheel arches, lexan scraping violently on tarmac followed by a big bang still haunt me to this day! 😂 😅 🤣
A prime example of what happens when you beef up the power in one without doing the necessary upgrades!!
With an alloy prop shaft, contact foams, adjustable track rods etc etc our runs may have been a little better..... possibly? 🤔 🙄
So anyway bud, good luck with that 27mph.....and do remember that mine is the road version, Fils is the rally one, which might potentially be a fraction slower perhaps?
Have a great weekend my friend. 😊
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Exactly, mate! The lure of Tamiya is in the tinkering and tweaking! Haha don't blame you for giving the TT02 a wide berth after last year's shenanigans!
I have had other folk say their FZ02 will break 30 in stock form... I may be on a losing streak here!
Hope your week has started well, James! 🤞😁🍻👊👍
You guys are funny, reminds me of Peppa Pig and her brother George. 🤣🤣
Thanks pal! I think I'll take that as a compliment! 😅👍
What motor in there and I heard the TTO2D is better value?
Hi there, it's an Absima Thrust Eco 15T motor. The TT02D is better value because of the oil shocks, bearings and sport tuned motor! 😎👍
Cant beat the tt02 easier cheaper to upgrade i agree with you mark bryan
Glad you agree with me, it's definitely a great versatile chassis that has so many affordable options available! 😎👌👍
@MarkBryanRC agree so much fun aswell I've got a focus and subaru 99 I've just put the gold wheels on the focus my partner/girlfriend says she loves better with gold so now I'm in a dilemma 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣but a good dilemma to have
Who has the highest clearance ? Which one can take turns tighter ?
I reckon the Kyosho has the most clearance and tighter steering. The TT02 is limited by it's short suspension arms and steering design. Cheers! 😎👍
arg seeing the lightbuckets on the subaru makes me a little crossed the supra body from the BT-01 only has front buckets and the only 3rd party rear light buckets i've found are both unobtainium and 30-60 bucks which.....hahaha yea no even if it's in stock that's just way to much maybe if it came pre-painted and LED'd up maybe.
and i did get my TT-02 to have damn near 0 play at the front, all it took was 3rd party metal lower arms and metal cups and tamiya adjustable upper arms and a tamiya alloy steering upgrade kit so....about 125 bucks >.< extra , trying to replicate the turnbuckle/ball end solution from the tamiya steering upgrade because it has 0 play and the BT-01 has a lot of turnbuckles and ball ends but it has almost infinite play out the box >.>
but since the arm's are similar i'm thinking most of the play might be comming from the upper and lower arm's mainly the plastic/metal lower friction ball's tend to move around in the arm quite a bit so metal lower arm's with a metal suspention ball pre-mounted in there would be the best value to end result play killer (though they do limit the ride height compared to the plastic ones but still have my front at 26mm)
Oh no that's a shame about the Supra body! Too much money for those rear buckets!
Good job on the zero play TT02 front but it does sound like a lot of work and cash to get it done!
Thanks for sharing your info about the suspension mods, very useful my friend! 😎👊👍
The Kyosho is more comparable to the XV-01 or XV-02 (I preferer the -01 driving dynamics and performance). In order to bring the TT-02 close to the performance of the FZ01 you would need to invest "mucho dinero" and still not quite get there in performance. They are both very nice looking though.
Hi there! I think you are right and I also prefer the driving dynamics of the XV01. I don't have the FZ02 to be able to directly compare it but yes, big bucks need to be thrown at the TT02 to get it to even drive nicely, that's for sure! 🤔👍
Hi Mark, miss your videos
Enjoyed this one. Too bad your servo gave up
If you are a true RC enthusiast you don't buy a RTR 🥱😤Nothing like assemble your own car
I would never ever buy a Kyosho fazer. But if you are lazy you do 😆💩
Hi there my friend Are! I think you have watched most of my videos mate!
Glad you liked this one and yeah I need to get a new servo fitted to my zigzagging TT02! 😂
I'm with you, as you know - only kits for this old man!
I don't think I'll get a Fazer either but it does look like a good RTR if that's your bag! Cheers! 🍻😎👍
Kyosho all the way on this one
You are not on your own on this one! It really is a great car and TBH I'm a big fan of kyosho myself!
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Cheers 🍻 Chris 😎👌👍
Im still on the fence, i came close to buying the kyosho, but moneys going on other things. You miss out on the building with the kyosho bit you dont have to paint and sticker the body 🤔
I know Richard, same here! My money is staying in the bank for now! Agreed, there are plus points for RTR's but I do like the build process! Cheers! 🍻😎👊👍
@@MarkBryanRC its more than half the fun for me, building the kit. I could do it as a full time job 😁 if it payed well haha
Tighter than Barbara's beaver, I can tell you that! 😁
You got that right, dude! 😂😅👊👍
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Maybe the Driver´s weren´t intoxicated from alcohol but from Barbara´s beaver performing cunning stunt´s 🤣...anyway I´ma Tamiya Fanboy but I´m realy intressted in a comparisson betwen them allthough I think the TT02 will come out second best with the faster motor and more suspension travel. I´ll follow along so Cheers and take care.
Haha I think you might be right about Barbera's Beaver! 😂 As you know I'm in the Tamiya camp like you! On paper the Kyosho has the TT02 beat, but we will see! Take care too my friend, cheers! 🍻😎👍
Haha we all learn 🤠😃😁🤣🏴🇬🇧🏴☠️
Absolutely, it's the name of the game, pal! 💯😎👊👍
In defence of the almighty Tamiya!! ;)
Always! 😬🤞👍🏼
Shoot out please...?
We are trying to do a remote shoot out - keep an eye on Poor Boys RC channel for the FZ02 speed test! 😎👍
Nah the TT killer is a yokomo rookie speed 1.0 or a 3racing cero 64. Both 30€ more over a TT type S but full race spec ready rollers.
Good point Jess! Everybody wanted to see the Kyosho vs TT02 but I would have chosen the Type-S as a closer match, price wise.
I have many tt-02s steering is crap can't go streight.
Hi Kenneth, you can get them to go straight even with a pretty stock setup. Have a look at this one of mine going straight at over 40mph! 😬👍 th-cam.com/video/bNUHgLcF4-E/w-d-xo.html
Hmm I have a type s and steering is great but I did upgrade part of it to aluminium and bearings from new but can’t imagine it made a huge difference to start with but obviously it won’t wear out
You need a driver
I need a better driver than me, that's for sure!!! 😅👍
Mark I have both these chassis tamiyas rally tto2 and the kyoshos in the on road version I have to give the nod to the kyosho it's just better and steering is better. sorry big T Kyosho for the win!
Hi Steve, I think I have to agree with you, the specs are similar but they are very different in the way they work! The TT02 might have a chance with a few mods though! Cheers! 🍻😎👍