@@Blarglesnarfe Honestly, I think Rosa is one of the key characters that makes Umineko complete. Umineko isn’t just about solving mysteries, it’s also about love and understanding. Every character has their own story that shapes who they are. For Rosa, it’s her painful past (something so many people today can relate to). People are quick to judge her for how she treated Maria (Yes, Rosa's actions are unforgivable), but no one looks at what the Ushiromiya family did to Rosa. They’re the ones who turned her into what Maria calls a 'black witch.'" 🧙♀️🧙♀️🧙♀️
Good list, small note tho, Battler's small bombs theory wasn't dumb at all, rather it was good reasoning for his purpose then, which was not to solve the mystery but to simply make it possible, not plausible, without magic. Small bombs is a humorous way of saying trap x, which was logically valid and adhered to the red truths given at the time.
Rosa is such a well-written character tbh. I haven’t seen anyone like her in other stories. Yeah, she’s super detestable, but that’s exactly the point of her character, and she nails it perfectly. I can’t help but be really impressed by how well she’s portrayed.
There is such a thing as hitting TOO close to home 😭 that is rosa ushiromiya How a character so horrendously unlikable can be so seamlessly well written is actually WILD I've had this discussion with other fans but imo kyrie is such a litmus test for the reader on how much they understood the story, her full backstory is never delved into but you as a person who's capable of now "seeing with love" should be able to fill the blanks on how she became the person she is, and which parts of ep 7 tea party were true compared to which parts were over exaggerated in order to hurt ange, there is a point as to why we are shown willard attempting to fight bernkastel regarding this "truth" when he jumps in to save lion, it means that we as a reader are also capable of "slicing apart truth from fiction", umineko is full of little hints like that
how is this video released just 4 hours ago? i JUST remembered Umineko after years and here is the fresh video about it? just out of the oven? bro that's craaazy how is that even possible? such a coincidence
Personally, I'd move characters like George, Kinzo, Rosa or Eva up to high A or even S tier. I prefer to judge characters based on whether I think they are well-written and interesting, not on whether I think they are "good people". Especially when it's a story like Umineko, in which every character can be a saint or a murderer depending on the specific circumstances. I mean, you did put Kyrie in S-tier and Erika and Bernkastel in A-tier, despite what they did. If entertainment value matters more than whether they're likable, there's no way a character like Kinzo should be below A-tier. He steals every scene he's in. Same with Eva, Natsuhi and Rosa.
Yeah its crazy to put Kyrie, among the most morally corrupt pieces of shit in the story in the S tier but to put others lower for doing bad things (that arent even as bad as the stuff kyrie has done)
I have some suggestions for future games. (No offense taken if you don’t play them.) MiSide: You get trapped in a mobile game with an obsessive anime girl. After that, things get epic and surreal, but I don’t want to spoil anything. (Mario) The Music Box: A Mario fan game inspired by Corpse Party. It’s worth checking out for its amazing anime intro alone. The story actually has a lot of depth and the game art is incredibly intricate. Mogeko Castle: A high school girl finds herself in a castle where she is endangered by cat-like creatures. Wadanohara and the Great Blue Sea: An adorable sea witch and her cute friends go on adventures, but things eventually get Lovecraftian.
My least favorite characters would be Nanjo and Kumasawa. Both of them were accomplices in messed up stuff regarding chick Beatrice, messed up Sayo's upbringing, decided to atone by helping Sayo murder everyone, and all they did during the two days was blatant lies and crying. No sympathy at all. (Genji is kinda like that, too)
Yeah Nanjo in particular sucks, he's constantly jumping to defend Kinzo for his worst actions just cos he's his mate (which in turn only happened cos Kinzo bribed him), plus on top of that he's completely uninteresting and mostly just serves as a plot device to falsify deaths Kumasawa gets more of a pass for me for at least trying to be a good mother figure to Sayo and improving their quality of life in some ways, eg helping them not to lose things and talking with them about mystery novels. And iirc she was told Sayo's plan was a fake murder mystery for Battler so she's not a knowing accomplice to the murders (same with Nanjo actually, I think it was only Genji who knew the true extent of the plan). But yeah she's far from perfect either, covering up the Kuwadorian Beatrice stuff is obviously terrible Genji is awful, he literally puppeteers Sayo's entire life just so Kinzo can have his moment of redemption and then knowingly allows the murders to happen and even helps with them instead of offering any meaningful support to the person whose life he ruined. I would only put him a tiny bit above Nanjo because there's a little bit more to him as a character but imo he's the second most reprehensible character in the VN after Kinzo himself, and there is some stiff competition for that spot
@@orza6006 they might have not know initially, but when people's heads are half destroyed or their stomachs are cut open, I don't think that excuse works anymore, yet they've continued pretending to not know anything. Genji is a terrible person, but at least he got some charisma ig, so he's a bit higher for me.
Thank you so much for giving Kyrie some love, especially by pointing out her intuition and drive! 💜 I often wonder how her and Ange´s relation would have changed if Rudolf would have been honest about what he did from the very start... the tea party blessed us with a glimpse of that possibility. Sadly, not much more has been given to us 😔
@@agtainayt7321 KRKRKRKRKR i´m so HONOURED OMG THANK UUU!!! 🥰😍💜💙💚 Tough i sadly don´t recognize this username in IG :( Do you got a different one there?
The characters are hard to rank cause the different versions are separate but also very telling of their original selves. Yes love Will and Lion so much .Only in one episode but they were charming. Forever glad I got the Will pajama ps3 theme. The only time I felt positive about George was him being fun to play in Ougon.
Professor Ootsuki was also a very important character for Ange's story and plot development. She never would have been able to piece together Beatrice's actual handwriting without him.
not liking george is valid, in my opinion i dont think the story paints his relationship with shannon in a positive light, I know shannon reacts to it positively but considering her reasons and her role in the story i think its really just meant to reinforce just how trapped and isolated she felt on the island and george honestly (if not intentionally) takes advantage of that. Its gross and its meant to make the reader evaluate their relationshiop on the terms of the characters. he has his moments though, hes... a fine... older cousin to maria and jessica and battler and he grows out of his shell with his mom and all that stuff but honestly he kinda left a weird taste in my mouth all things considered.
who did always help shannon in the past? yep kumasawa how is she on c? who was marias best friend and help her not to be alone right sakutarou. who helped **** to become beato right gaap. who is the golden cook right its gouda. how is ikuko c and featherine on b? how is kumasawa on c and virgilia on b? how is kannon on b and shannon on a? and how the hell is dlanor on S while lambda and bern on A. How are lambda and bern on A when the whole when they cry franchise about them?
Link to last week's Higurashi tier list video: th-cam.com/video/8hHYYmi0GSk/w-d-xo.html
How can best mom be ranked so low V_V
She's an awful person but she's such a well written character
"awful person"
*cough* Kyrie *cough*
She's my favourite, just imagine Umineko without her...🖋🔫🐐🔥
She doesn't like her. I don't really appreciate her role in the mystery personally, all of her content is pretty much EP2 and flashbacks.
@@Blarglesnarfe Honestly, I think Rosa is one of the key characters that makes Umineko complete. Umineko isn’t just about solving mysteries, it’s also about love and understanding. Every character has their own story that shapes who they are. For Rosa, it’s her painful past (something so many people today can relate to). People are quick to judge her for how she treated Maria (Yes, Rosa's actions are unforgivable), but no one looks at what the Ushiromiya family did to Rosa. They’re the ones who turned her into what Maria calls a 'black witch.'" 🧙♀️🧙♀️🧙♀️
Rosa is a really realistic abusive parent, which has her as A tier for me.
Good list, small note tho, Battler's small bombs theory wasn't dumb at all, rather it was good reasoning for his purpose then, which was not to solve the mystery but to simply make it possible, not plausible, without magic. Small bombs is a humorous way of saying trap x, which was logically valid and adhered to the red truths given at the time.
This is so weird but I accidentally read it as small boobs theory 😭
Rosa is such a well-written character tbh. I haven’t seen anyone like her in other stories. Yeah, she’s super detestable, but that’s exactly the point of her character, and she nails it perfectly. I can’t help but be really impressed by how well she’s portrayed.
There is such a thing as hitting TOO close to home 😭 that is rosa ushiromiya
How a character so horrendously unlikable can be so seamlessly well written is actually WILD
I've had this discussion with other fans but imo kyrie is such a litmus test for the reader on how much they understood the story, her full backstory is never delved into but you as a person who's capable of now "seeing with love" should be able to fill the blanks on how she became the person she is, and which parts of ep 7 tea party were true compared to which parts were over exaggerated in order to hurt ange, there is a point as to why we are shown willard attempting to fight bernkastel regarding this "truth" when he jumps in to save lion, it means that we as a reader are also capable of "slicing apart truth from fiction", umineko is full of little hints like that
Rosa is goat 🥺
how is this video released just 4 hours ago? i JUST remembered Umineko after years and here is the fresh video about it? just out of the oven? bro that's craaazy how is that even possible? such a coincidence
Personally, I'd move characters like George, Kinzo, Rosa or Eva up to high A or even S tier.
I prefer to judge characters based on whether I think they are well-written and interesting, not on whether I think they are "good people". Especially when it's a story like Umineko, in which every character can be a saint or a murderer depending on the specific circumstances.
I mean, you did put Kyrie in S-tier and Erika and Bernkastel in A-tier, despite what they did. If entertainment value matters more than whether they're likable, there's no way a character like Kinzo should be below A-tier. He steals every scene he's in. Same with Eva, Natsuhi and Rosa.
That's so true
Same
Yeah its crazy to put Kyrie, among the most morally corrupt pieces of shit in the story in the S tier but to put others lower for doing bad things (that arent even as bad as the stuff kyrie has done)
I could never do an Umineko tier list; Everybody's fantastic.
Kyrie in S but Rosa in D is wild lol
BERNKASTEL my beloved
Will you do Fata Morgana? 🤗 really curious to hear your reflections on all the cast
I have some suggestions for future games. (No offense taken if you don’t play them.)
MiSide: You get trapped in a mobile game with an obsessive anime girl. After that, things get epic and surreal, but I don’t want to spoil anything.
(Mario) The Music Box: A Mario fan game inspired by Corpse Party. It’s worth checking out for its amazing anime intro alone. The story actually has a lot of depth and the game art is incredibly intricate.
Mogeko Castle: A high school girl finds herself in a castle where she is endangered by cat-like creatures.
Wadanohara and the Great Blue Sea: An adorable sea witch and her cute friends go on adventures, but things eventually get Lovecraftian.
My least favorite characters would be Nanjo and Kumasawa. Both of them were accomplices in messed up stuff regarding chick Beatrice, messed up Sayo's upbringing, decided to atone by helping Sayo murder everyone, and all they did during the two days was blatant lies and crying. No sympathy at all. (Genji is kinda like that, too)
Yeah Nanjo in particular sucks, he's constantly jumping to defend Kinzo for his worst actions just cos he's his mate (which in turn only happened cos Kinzo bribed him), plus on top of that he's completely uninteresting and mostly just serves as a plot device to falsify deaths
Kumasawa gets more of a pass for me for at least trying to be a good mother figure to Sayo and improving their quality of life in some ways, eg helping them not to lose things and talking with them about mystery novels. And iirc she was told Sayo's plan was a fake murder mystery for Battler so she's not a knowing accomplice to the murders (same with Nanjo actually, I think it was only Genji who knew the true extent of the plan). But yeah she's far from perfect either, covering up the Kuwadorian Beatrice stuff is obviously terrible
Genji is awful, he literally puppeteers Sayo's entire life just so Kinzo can have his moment of redemption and then knowingly allows the murders to happen and even helps with them instead of offering any meaningful support to the person whose life he ruined. I would only put him a tiny bit above Nanjo because there's a little bit more to him as a character but imo he's the second most reprehensible character in the VN after Kinzo himself, and there is some stiff competition for that spot
@@orza6006 they might have not know initially, but when people's heads are half destroyed or their stomachs are cut open, I don't think that excuse works anymore, yet they've continued pretending to not know anything. Genji is a terrible person, but at least he got some charisma ig, so he's a bit higher for me.
Dlanor s tier is so real
Thank you so much for giving Kyrie some love, especially by pointing out her intuition and drive! 💜
I often wonder how her and Ange´s relation would have changed if Rudolf would have been honest about what he did from the very start... the tea party blessed us with a glimpse of that possibility. Sadly, not much more has been given to us 😔
Omggg i have been Following you for years in instagram
i love your covers!
@@agtainayt7321 KRKRKRKRKR i´m so HONOURED OMG THANK UUU!!! 🥰😍💜💙💚
Tough i sadly don´t recognize this username in IG :( Do you got a different one there?
Ange on s means this tier list is true im not the only one saying this its marked with the red truth
The characters are hard to rank cause the different versions are separate but also very telling of their original selves.
Yes love Will and Lion so much .Only in one episode but they were charming. Forever glad I got the Will pajama ps3 theme.
The only time I felt positive about George was him being fun to play in Ougon.
I think I can get behind this list overall.
Btw, Blood Drive when?
Before I watch I predict both Lambda and Bern are at S
Oh fuck yes another Umineko video by Rose Matter.
Yeah, maybe a bit much to rank the Seven stakes, buuuut... which sister is your favourite among them? ^^
Battler my goaaaaat
not having bern and lambda in S tier is a crime.
Only Moon Tourism could have lifted Krauss to B tier. Edit: also where's best boy Captain Kawabata : V (just kidding)
Professor Ootsuki was also a very important character for Ange's story and plot development. She never would have been able to piece together Beatrice's actual handwriting without him.
Yaaaaay ^^
not liking george is valid, in my opinion i dont think the story paints his relationship with shannon in a positive light, I know shannon reacts to it positively but considering her reasons and her role in the story i think its really just meant to reinforce just how trapped and isolated she felt on the island and george honestly (if not intentionally) takes advantage of that. Its gross and its meant to make the reader evaluate their relationshiop on the terms of the characters. he has his moments though, hes... a fine... older cousin to maria and jessica and battler and he grows out of his shell with his mom and all that stuff but honestly he kinda left a weird taste in my mouth all things considered.
explain rosatrice
Great list. My is mostly similar.
WOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
THE SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINS NEVER DIIIIIIIIIIE
Dlanooooooooooooooooooor
who did always help shannon in the past? yep kumasawa how is she on c? who was marias best friend and help her not to be alone right sakutarou. who helped **** to become beato right gaap. who is the golden cook right its gouda. how is ikuko c and featherine on b? how is kumasawa on c and virgilia on b? how is kannon on b and shannon on a? and how the hell is dlanor on S while lambda and bern on A. How are lambda and bern on A when the whole when they cry franchise about them?
explain Kasumi beatrice theorie