When I used to deliver fuel we had a Volvo bulk truck just like this that was dedicated to delivering to locomotives and railroads. We had a really bad winter one year, and while all our newer trucks jelled up the Volvo was the only one that started without issue. It was a trash heap inside, but reliable.
Yeah, that's definitely an issue. Anything over 9.5 feet will be over height. Pretty easy to permit up to 15.5 feet though, so not the end of the world.
old trucks usually always smell like cigarette smoke or mouse....very nice rollback. i would have to agree about the truck's original up fit...i would think a dump body because of the double frame, diff lock on both axles, the 16k front axle and that t suspension. i have not seen that t suspension. looks like a walking beam set up....which would make sense for off road applications.
I'm pretty sure it was originally a roll off truck for hauling dumpsters. I bet there is a good chance it was once part of a Waste Management fleet. I'm glad it has a 16K steer axle, it has 11.5K on the steer axle empty!
This a WG model as I work for VOLVO. This model replaced the GMC brigadier. Great touch.real work horse. The auto car model had a diff hood but same cab.
Been awhile since I've seen one of these. We had ten of them in Indianapolis setup as tri-axle dump trucks with the exact drivetrain spec's but with Hendrickson Walking Beam suspension. They were okay for local hauling but for long trips forget it, rode too damn rough. Ours never had passenger seats which made the cab interiors that much more spacious. The nice things I loved about them were the extended doghouse cover inside which featured cup holders, and the tilt steering wheel. None of our 1970s Ford LTS-9000 SBA dump trucks had those. For me, it was my very first brand new truck in my young driving career and at the time I loved it. Now that I'm spoiled with these large sleeper cab, big horsepower trucks, I could never go back to one of these.
I live in Connecticut I drove one of those white GMC trucks it was a single axle tractor pulled a three axle flat bed trailer hauling bundles of raw copper off cargo ships to the mill
Love it !! We have 3 !! Two freightliners and a kenworth .. We have a rental business here in the North Georgia Mountains .. Only way to get around these tight roads .. 2 of ours have the hydraulic decks and one is gravity. The hydraulic beds are much better ! Thanks for sharing
I have the very same truck. Mine is a 1991 but rigged up as a roll off container bed. It’s unstoppable. My 8LL trans is set up on a horseshoe style shift pattern but I love it. The only problem I ever had with it is that a rocker arm came apart and wedged between the cam and the block. The cam won. I ended up welding up the hole in the block and been running ever since and that happened in 2001.
Do you still have the truck? If so, I'd love some super long unedited driving videos on it, especially loaded, so I can hear that engine and exhaust sound! If it's got the L10 Cummins, the L10 is my all-time favorite Cummins engines! Please let me know ASAP.
It seems to be about the right equipped truck for what you are going to use it for in your business and you can always add a few things to doll it up a bit, fog lights, sun visor, bed lights repaint the wheels, it's hard to find a heavy duty truck for a reasonable price , Freddie out !
That shade of green and the structural set up echoes of a waste management large hopper bin truck .it has an off road set up for land fill terrain travel and other job sites.other applications for this set up also used for cement mixer trucks.
I worked with Volvo Penta for 30 years on the west coast of Canada . Industrial and marine diesel and gasoline I/O pleasure marine power units. The Volvo Penta is a great engine. I think you will be pleased with this rig.
Very very nice truck Wes👍. Would love to have one myself... But no way could I justify it. It For sure would need to make money. Just the upkeep alone would get expensive quick. Thumbs up
White divested their operations in 1981, and both White and their Autocar division were sold off to Volvo, with Western Star going to Canadian energy company NovaCorp. Seven years later, Volvo created a joint-venture with GM, the Volvo-GM Heavy Truck Corporation, and introduced a new brand, WhiteGMC, to go along with Autocar.
Hey Wes, I did some research on these trucks, and it turns out White GMC trucks are a joint venture between Volvo and GMC to sell trucks in the american market. They were marketed and badged as "White GMC" or "AutoCar" trucks. Hope that sheds some light on this beauty's identity crisis. I'm assuming this was a Waste Management truck and probably had a fender bender or a paint problem, so it got a new hood with the Volvo badges.
Looks like the old military MARMON green under all that white, your right about the waste management idea they have trucks the same green on the mountain behind my house hauling roll off's in every day.
When they build flatbeds as we call them in California the bed comes with its own subframe that part is mounted to the vehicle frame but Nord amount that and get the clearances that are needed they typically cut the truck frame after the rear axle and then the rest of it takes place the subframe is for the bed it's part of the bed just a little info I thought I might add
Nice truck, I'd get 5 cans of Fluid Film and WD-40 and mainline it in between the double frame rails. I've seen a Buffalo NY fire tanker with a split rail
Commercial vehicles in Illinois is a nightmare. County's here like to be roadside judge & jury's. No higher than a D plate here or you'll pay more in fees than you'll make.
barrier to entry is a great way to keep the little guy down. Just like I hear from millionaires who went from poor to rich. The first million is the hardest to earn but its smooth sailing after. But that is bussiness
Beautiful truck! I'm a huge fan of the Cummins L10 engine - all the old garbage trucks (WhiteGMC/Volvos) around here used them and the Allison HT740 automatic. Can you please do a long driving video of this truck? Would love to hear it out on the road, running through the gears a bunch of times, driving, and whatnot. And make sure the exhaust sound is nice and loud - make sure it growls really good. Maybe take the muffler off and drive it straight piped. Please let me know ASAP.
It runs and drives and bed works that's 90% of the battle. Cosmetics can come in stages as you go.Maybe swap cabs is easier than body work.I wonder if you can make a nozzle than can shoot rust preventive between frame rails. that might save it or just shoot drain oil not PC but might work. I would love to have it it ain't pretty but will get the job done.Ran a single axle freightshaker the last couple of years before I retired surprising what you can do with them.Show up at farm auctions and you will have more work than you can handle when guys need their junk,I mean treasure hauled home .LOL
I bought a few things from Ritchi Brothers. Most people are unaware of this. When you have a partner who won't make a decision you go to an auction. No time to think. You can buy what you need. My last purchase is saving me 60% on what it used to cost to do a days work. Nice truck
I went to a giant one up here in edmonton alberta, people online from the USA were bidding stuff up like crazy, its super pressure, a lot of stuff sold for much more then it would have second hand and you can't drive or fully test the trucks before hand, clearly some deals to be had though!
If that was mine I’d be putting container pins in the deck. I’d also have an eye out for an ex otr tractor that has cross liking Diffs, and the right wheelbase to take that bed once the bunk/sleeper is removed. Yes airbags are a pain, kenworth 8 bag are the best of them.
The problem with all the OTR trucks is they have 12,000 lb steer axles and you can't haul any weight with them. They are really only made for use with a trailer.
that'd be awesome for a cnc machinery auction, just winch stuff up. We have a huge Ritchie brothers that moved from Maytown, WA even further south past chehalis. Then their maytown lot was first filled with earth moving equipment then some truck dealer filled it with same color light green new peterbilts....a huge lot and a ton of trucks. Did you ever sell the CNC gear?
Id love to buy my own truck just to say its mine would be cool but with the headache of having it on the road paying for permits and license insurance and a big truck payment... thats why I drive for a guy who's leased to a company and I just drive and get paid. He can deal with all the other stuff lol
Yes. At this point I do enough work to cover the license and insurance. That makes the truck basically free for my own uses. It's tough to get the gravy work here because there are probably 30 towing outfits in town and I'd guess at least 10 of them have a tandem rollback. They soak up almost all of the work moving forklifts and equipment.
KY requires you to pay based on weight and mileage driven in the state if you are over 60,000. Oregon has the same thing. I think that would only apply to state and local roads, not the interstates. No insurance payments yet.
I almost thought this was an international at first glance, but when you mentioned it was volvo and white you threw me into a loop. if i recall Volvo bought out whites in the 80's? i think GMC discontinued the class 8 trucks all together in 1986 after the general / bison / brigadier lineup was purchased by volvo? *after some research I found this: Following the GMC General, Volvo GM produced the WhiteGMC WC/WI Class 8 conventional, introduced in 1980 as the White Road Boss 2, the model line was produced through 2000 in various forms as a White, WhiteGMC, Autocar, and Volvo.
Ah the Cummins L10 straight 6, the engine that killed off Gardner in the UK, as it had more power, and better economy,, still p155es oil everywhere, just like a 6LX series
When I used to deliver fuel we had a Volvo bulk truck just like this that was dedicated to delivering to locomotives and railroads. We had a really bad winter one year, and while all our newer trucks jelled up the Volvo was the only one that started without issue. It was a trash heap inside, but reliable.
Get the Volvo to tow all the other ones in the shop so the fuel becomes liquid again and lets you run them, easy fix after the fuel deliveries
They sure are handy! The problem we always ran into with ours was it was hard to haul stuff and not be too tall.
Yeah, that's definitely an issue. Anything over 9.5 feet will be over height. Pretty easy to permit up to 15.5 feet though, so not the end of the world.
I absolutely gotta wub that you have this gorgeous truck parked right next to the "No Parking" sign... during the entire review.
Good job!
old trucks usually always smell like cigarette smoke or mouse....very nice rollback. i would have to agree about the truck's original up fit...i would think a dump body because of the double frame, diff lock on both axles, the 16k front axle and that t suspension. i have not seen that t suspension. looks like a walking beam set up....which would make sense for off road applications.
I'm pretty sure it was originally a roll off truck for hauling dumpsters. I bet there is a good chance it was once part of a Waste Management fleet. I'm glad it has a 16K steer axle, it has 11.5K on the steer axle empty!
This a WG model as I work for VOLVO. This model replaced the GMC brigadier. Great touch.real work horse. The auto car model had a diff hood but same cab.
These trucks are super dependable we still use them up to this date but our one had a Detroit series 60 in it
Been awhile since I've seen one of these. We had ten of them in Indianapolis setup as tri-axle dump trucks with the exact drivetrain spec's but with Hendrickson Walking Beam suspension. They were okay for local hauling but for long trips forget it, rode too damn rough. Ours never had passenger seats which made the cab interiors that much more spacious. The nice things I loved about them were the extended doghouse cover inside which featured cup holders, and the tilt steering wheel. None of our 1970s Ford LTS-9000 SBA dump trucks had those. For me, it was my very first brand new truck in my young driving career and at the time I loved it. Now that I'm spoiled with these large sleeper cab, big horsepower trucks, I could never go back to one of these.
Back when Volvo made a ok truck, i drove one with the Detroit series 60 forever
I like startup business’ like these. You know the value of a dollar.
I live in Connecticut I drove one of those white GMC trucks it was a single axle tractor pulled a three axle flat bed trailer hauling bundles of raw copper off cargo ships to the mill
Love it !! We have 3 !! Two freightliners and a kenworth .. We have a rental business here in the North Georgia Mountains .. Only way to get around these tight roads .. 2 of ours have the hydraulic decks and one is gravity. The hydraulic beds are much better ! Thanks for sharing
I've wanted something like that too, but can't justify for all the reasons you mentioned. It certainly has all the right features to be a good truck.
Yeah, better to hire one.
I have the very same truck. Mine is a 1991 but rigged up as a roll off container bed. It’s unstoppable. My 8LL trans is set up on a horseshoe style shift pattern but I love it. The only problem I ever had with it is that a rocker arm came apart and wedged between the cam and the block. The cam won. I ended up welding up the hole in the block and been running ever since and that happened in 2001.
Do you still have the truck? If so, I'd love some super long unedited driving videos on it, especially loaded, so I can hear that engine and exhaust sound! If it's got the L10 Cummins, the L10 is my all-time favorite Cummins engines! Please let me know ASAP.
Total badass parking right next to the no parking sign! Sticking it to the man ha
Heh. Well it's my sign...
It seems to be about the right equipped truck for what you are going to use it for in your business and you can always add a few things to doll it up a bit, fog lights, sun visor, bed lights repaint the wheels, it's hard to find a heavy duty truck for a reasonable price , Freddie out !
That shade of green and the structural set up echoes of a waste management large hopper bin truck .it has an off road set up for land fill terrain travel and other job sites.other applications for this set up also used for cement mixer trucks.
I worked with Volvo Penta for 30 years on the west coast of Canada . Industrial and marine diesel and gasoline I/O pleasure marine power units. The Volvo Penta is a great engine. I think you will be pleased with this rig.
Cool truck. Kind of reminds me of the old Volvo White Road Boss
Thumbs up 👍 paper work and inspection possibilities every day!
Wow, that is a stout rollback! Nice buy!
👍wood deck for machinery moves. it's in good hands now.
love older vehicles like your channel
Nice find, but reminds me why I stop at 25,999lbs. LOL
It's awesome! Good luck with this beast. Looks like it's halfway done to add a remote for the bed.
It has a pendent with a cord. Should be easy to go wireless.
I 'like your videos. You are a real mecanic. Best wishhes from B-E Dahl Sweden . Give puppy a hug from me
"Look at this abomination" ...LOL
It's not going to win best of show.
Very very nice truck Wes👍. Would love to have one myself... But no way could I justify it. It For sure would need to make money. Just the upkeep alone would get expensive quick. Thumbs up
White divested their operations in 1981, and both White and their Autocar division were sold off to Volvo, with Western Star going to Canadian energy company NovaCorp. Seven years later, Volvo created a joint-venture with GM, the Volvo-GM Heavy Truck Corporation, and introduced a new brand, WhiteGMC, to go along with Autocar.
This is another great video WES.
At RB I like to go the weekend before the auction and look in person. Then do the bidding online.
Matt from Diesel Creek loves the RITCHIE BROTHERS AUCTION.
sweet looking forward to seeing this one done up
Hey Wes, I did some research on these trucks, and it turns out White GMC trucks are a joint venture between Volvo and GMC to sell trucks in the american market. They were marketed and badged as "White GMC" or "AutoCar" trucks. Hope that sheds some light on this beauty's identity crisis. I'm assuming this was a Waste Management truck and probably had a fender bender or a paint problem, so it got a new hood with the Volvo badges.
That deck is cool on this old rig @Watch Wes Work
Matt from Diesel Creek of Deisel Creek loves the RITCHIE BROTHERS AUCTIONS
We4s i just know you will get it right but a very intresting to watch you get it right i will keep watching david in ireland
Looks like the old military MARMON green under all that white, your right about the waste management idea they have trucks the same green on the mountain behind my house hauling roll off's in every day.
same in the UK Wes nice truck as a starting point though👍👍
Nice looking truck.
She's a Beaut! Wish I had one, lol
Good ol Morris Il Richie Bros, I go there at least once a week for deliveries
Congratulations. Boy is this gonna be interesting :-)
When they build flatbeds as we call them in California the bed comes with its own subframe that part is mounted to the vehicle frame but Nord amount that and get the clearances that are needed they typically cut the truck frame after the rear axle and then the rest of it takes place the subframe is for the bed it's part of the bed just a little info I thought I might add
You could put a remote control for your bed real easy. New subscriber from Italia here. I watched your drag line video last night. Good stuff.
I guess that T spring setup is how Freightshaker got it's reputation. Hopefully that doesn't rattle the CNCs off the back. ;)
Love Your Volvo GMC
Nice truck, I'd get 5 cans of Fluid Film and WD-40 and mainline it in between the double frame rails. I've seen a Buffalo NY fire tanker with a split rail
Yeah that happens. I've failed trucks on inspection due to rust jacking between the double frame rails.
Commercial vehicles in Illinois is a nightmare. County's here like to be roadside judge & jury's. No higher than a D plate here or you'll pay more in fees than you'll make.
barrier to entry is a great way to keep the little guy down. Just like I hear from millionaires who went from poor to rich. The first million is the hardest to earn but its smooth sailing after. But that is bussiness
Beautiful truck! I'm a huge fan of the Cummins L10 engine - all the old garbage trucks (WhiteGMC/Volvos) around here used them and the Allison HT740 automatic. Can you please do a long driving video of this truck? Would love to hear it out on the road, running through the gears a bunch of times, driving, and whatnot. And make sure the exhaust sound is nice and loud - make sure it growls really good. Maybe take the muffler off and drive it straight piped. Please let me know ASAP.
thats got the diagonal bar behind the grill a volvo trademark in Europe
It runs and drives and bed works that's 90% of the battle. Cosmetics can come in stages as you go.Maybe swap cabs is easier than body work.I wonder if you can make a nozzle than can shoot rust preventive between frame rails. that might save it or just shoot drain oil not PC but might work. I would love to have it it ain't pretty but will get the job done.Ran a single axle freightshaker the last couple of years before I retired surprising what you can do with them.Show up at farm auctions and you will have more work than you can handle when guys need their junk,I mean treasure hauled home .LOL
An interesting truck bro. Stay safe
Thumbs up 👍 but having is what is is.
Looks like it will do the job for 'ya...possession is 9/10th of the law! She's yours and that's what matters.👍
Sweet truck!
I can see using a truck like that for hauling logs, lumber,metal
Wow nice truck,
Looks like a good investment for you!
I like it Wes interesting to see what you do with it.
Alan.
I bought a few things from Ritchi Brothers. Most people are unaware of this. When you have a partner who won't make a decision you go to an auction. No time to think. You can buy what you need. My last purchase is saving me 60% on what it used to cost to do a days work. Nice truck
It's kind of a dumping ground, but if you are careful you can get a deal.
I went to a giant one up here in edmonton alberta, people online from the USA were bidding stuff up like crazy, its super pressure, a lot of stuff sold for much more then it would have second hand and you can't drive or fully test the trucks before hand, clearly some deals to be had though!
He actually just admitted he was crazy
i would buy that truck no questions asked... i drove that truck in trucking school
Was that an old Sunbelt Rental delivery truck at one point? Seems likely with it once being painted green....
thinking it used to be a garbage truck. Waste management colours.
Indeed. Perhaps a roll off truck.
WM trucks have a white cab
@@simonrichard9873 down here in Houston they are also that same shade of green . They do have a few white ones also.
Sweet rig!
Nice truck
called a “tiltray” everywhere else in the world
I've been thinking about getting one of those too.
Getting it is the cheap part. Getting it on the road is another story. $$$$
@@WatchWesWork for sure. I've done it for an F800, but with farm plates. No idea about DOT, IFTA, etc stuff. I'll need to do it eventually.
God-dam gur-ment, all up in ma sh1t askin' der god-dam questions....'bout to go all terminator one 'em witin my AK, god-dam!!!
Probably started off as a Roll-off from Waste Management.. Looks like a ledwell gravity drop body
I noticed green and orange?
If that was mine I’d be putting container pins in the deck.
I’d also have an eye out for an ex otr tractor that has cross liking Diffs, and the right wheelbase to take that bed once the bunk/sleeper is removed. Yes airbags are a pain, kenworth 8 bag are the best of them.
The problem with all the OTR trucks is they have 12,000 lb steer axles and you can't haul any weight with them. They are really only made for use with a trailer.
Watch Wes Work it’s only overweight if they catch you 😂
Less likely if you’ve got 500hp double overdrive on 3.9’s 😂
Was good buying though, if you got it for the right price, very handy truck now with all the work you’ve done 👍🏼
that'd be awesome for a cnc machinery auction, just winch stuff up. We have a huge Ritchie brothers that moved from Maytown, WA even further south past chehalis. Then their maytown lot was first filled with earth moving equipment then some truck dealer filled it with same color light green new peterbilts....a huge lot and a ton of trucks.
Did you ever sell the CNC gear?
I sold some of it.
@11:50 HEY! Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I think she is a cute lass.
Very cool
Hell yeah. Expedite
cabover cab
Id love to buy my own truck just to say its mine would be cool but with the headache of having it on the road paying for permits and license insurance and a big truck payment... thats why I drive for a guy who's leased to a company and I just drive and get paid. He can deal with all the other stuff lol
I think that winch is off of a duce and a half, or 5 ton army trucks
i watched two of ya vid's lately.. This were you buy and old truck and the one where your wife has the oldest Dishwasher in the world..
Probably a j.c Smith creation!!!! Lol he’s good man
Everything was good 😌
What 🤨
The only thing that I could 😒
I bet that heap has made you good money over the years...
Even though my pick up can legally haul into that commercial threshold of weight there is no way I would register it as such being an individual.
Hey Wes, have you picked up any paying work with the truck yet? I'm considering this as a business in my area (Southeast).
Yes. At this point I do enough work to cover the license and insurance. That makes the truck basically free for my own uses. It's tough to get the gravy work here because there are probably 30 towing outfits in town and I'd guess at least 10 of them have a tandem rollback. They soak up almost all of the work moving forklifts and equipment.
Nice!!
How you making out. Think for this to use as a tow truck
Oh a Hummin Cummins well they made a good Engine ALSO Then you will not drive it to Key West for a winter holiday HA! Just a simple work truck ...
How long did you have it ?
you can haul cars forklifts backhoes you can make some money
The dashboard fan will help
Move the air in the cab but when it’s hot 🥵 that’s all it will do is push hot air. Bus any is better then nothing.
i always like these. whaat r u gonna be using this rig for?
I thought you didn't need a license to drive in KY. BTW what's replacing the P/U Truck.
KY requires you to pay based on weight and mileage driven in the state if you are over 60,000. Oregon has the same thing. I think that would only apply to state and local roads, not the interstates. No insurance payments yet.
I can imagine the DJ at the strip club: Gentlemen put your hands together for... Patina!!
Lol. As she comes out through a puff of smoke, cigarette in hand.
I almost thought this was an international at first glance, but when you mentioned it was volvo and white you threw me into a loop. if i recall Volvo bought out whites in the 80's? i think GMC discontinued the class 8 trucks all together in 1986 after the general / bison / brigadier lineup was purchased by volvo? *after some research I found this: Following the GMC General, Volvo GM produced the WhiteGMC WC/WI Class 8 conventional, introduced in 1980 as the White Road Boss 2, the model line was produced through 2000 in various forms as a White, WhiteGMC, Autocar, and Volvo.
Hey wes did that truck have 22.5 tires
Wow dog that a hell of a truck not much rust on her where you get her from. Where are you located at for that matter
Ah the Cummins L10 straight 6, the engine that killed off Gardner in the UK, as it had more power, and better economy,, still p155es oil everywhere, just like a 6LX series
Check the rpm rating on the hydraulic pump before you raise the governor.
The engine is at idle or just above when the pump is engaged. Shouldn't be an issue.
Neat truck. Turned down saved it from the people before you
nice!
looks like a jenkin's bed ,