These go for cheaper then they should I use a 1987 international with the Detroit 466 as a yard dog at my shop along with a 2005 FL Columbia say an with the 12.7 series 60. The old international starts better on cold days but stays in the lot for the most part with the whopping maybe 220ho and the gearing only allowing 55-60 but she won’t die and has been the cheapest to maintain. She’s even cheaper then my 2018 ford, Chevy and dodge parts runner trucks yearly but those trucks have over 180k on them. As I digress, these old daycab medium duty trucks are either sent off to death as dump trucks from new or last longer and run better then anything you can buy new. They’re endearing and frustrating, a 1-10k super old medium duty will start better at -30 then a (still old but with one of the more desirable engines for reliability, maintenance, power and pre emission) 05 columbia. Someone take me back I was born too late we forgot about craftsmanship and standing behind a product
Agreed 👍 after he changed the oil and fuel filters that thing ran pretty good Good Job 👍 I like to see someone taking the time to do that Looks like a good investment
I've owned a number of vehicles with the IH 6.9 diesel... The governor on them doesn't go full-fuel when they're shut off, it just stays at the idle fuel setting. So when starting, per the instructions, you're supposed to hold the accelerator pedal to the floor while cranking and release the pedal when the engine starts. Doing this, you will notice the engine will start much better, especially in cold weather. In fact, if you don't do this in cold weather, it may not start for you at all!
These little short wheelbase IH trucks are FANTASTIC--basically just a big pickup, especially with the 6.9 which nobody wants (everybody wants the DT466) so it's cheapcheapcheap! Bless your soul for keeping the Dayton wheels--so many folks nowadays chuck them out because they're "difficult" but whatever man, they look awesome! And like you said, super easy to convert to modern 22.5s. This thing will serve you faithfully for years, thanks for saving it.
We run Daytons on allot of our Trailers still in 2024 and I don't mind them either. Stay up on painting the Steel, Keeping up on Wheel Locks/Shims being proper type/size/style and tightening in a uniform pattern and they are just fine. Allot better than Budd Wheels IMO. Budd are way too expensive to replace studs or time consuming. Keep that nut on threads while that Rim Clamp breaks free and you're fine. 😮
Is it just me that is amazed at how clean Waldo stays working on these old pieces of equipment? My hands would be covered in grease and oil just walking by the truck.
Waldo, to fix that dent in the back of the cab, try and stuff a deflated basketball behind the dent and inflate it, it’ll most likely pop it out fairly decent rather than a bunch of hammer dents
@@TheRoadhammer379 the whole point of that comment was to suggest a cheaper way of doing a repair...not to mention the whole point of building the truck is to make money on TH-cam...id recommend that you think before you comment
I grew up on a farm with international tractors and drive semi trucks for my main income. The first time I heard "cornbinder" referring to internationals was from a retired truck driver 5 years ago in a bar. An old boss of mine used to call them "inter-smash-ionals"
These Internationals were some of the best trucks ever made and my favorite. I remember working on this style truck when Uhaul had them in the late 80's and 90's. Those old IDI engines were reliable and tough. Not much on power but it got the job done. Would love to own a truck like this. Please make more videos on this truck if you do any mechanical stuff with it,.
I drove these with the 9 L V8, Allison Auto trans. Good torque down low, not a lot of peak power. Split rim tires are the first thing you should change, tho.
@@aaronhumphrey2009 I remember driving one of these as well when I worked for Budweiser for a few years starting in 1996. Loud as all hell, crap on high end power but damn did they run on flat ground or slight grades.
Congrats on the new addition! I had the identical truck for years. If you find hard starting coming on especially on hot days, pick up an o-ring kit for the injectors and fuel line connections. They were made for a different blend of diesel, and the new diesel eats them away. Nice truck, great deal, and easy to bulletproof. You’ll have it for a good long time.
This will be a fun project. If this is anything like the 6.9 non-turbo, a turbo is completely necessary for this engine to be viable. Test drove a pickup with a 6.9 pickup and the thing couldn't even get out of its own way. Test drove another with a Banks turbo kit and it made a world of difference.
@@WaldosWorld i have 2 idi 7.3 and had a 85 6.9 i love the idi my one 7.3 is turbo its night and day difference for a medium duty you will have to make your own turbo kit
The look of that international is amazing. I love the way the cab lights look. Definitely the perfect setup for a little dump truck. I owned a 1985 GMC brigadier with an 8v92 Detroit Diesel. 10 wheeler dump truck. I bought it to build my parents property up. Ended up doing other things with it. Moved well over 400 loads with it. Paid 5k. More than paid for itself. It's amazing how well commercial vehicles were built in the late '80s in through the 90s. Although GM was a little worse than international with corrosion. It was a southern truck and still had Holes in the floor. Will be nice to see what you do with this one.
I would love to see that little truck with a 5th wheel, then you could use it to pull a camping trailer or a small dump trailer (cool project too). Harvey is a great name.
It's a nice truck . I would recommend replacing all the wheels with aluminum tubeless wheels , maybe we're your at its easy to find people to replace them , but around here most company's won't do split rims
Split rings are easy but can take your head off. You literally stand on the tire and hold the ring down with a foot while you pry it off. Same for install. They require a tube which is usually the hardest part, which is actually pretty easy on a split ring. Never messed with a split rim
I love the dump bed idea but it hit me when you said it was an 8' bed and you could put a regular truck bed on it. What if you made a dump bed that looks like a regular truck bed.
You’ve stumbled on one of the best workhorses to ever come down the pick. IH made jewels for a very long time. Most folks now have no clue what a they’re missing. Pure US iron.
I don't know how far along in this build you are already, but you should definitely put fold down sides on the dump body. Assuming you are not making the sides 4 ft tall. At work we have a 550 with fold down sides and it completely changes how we use the truck. We can fit bobcat attachments in it. You can fit anything in it I guess, its like having another flat bed. I don't see any downside to having the sides fold down besides occasionally you have to clean out the mating surface from the side to the bottom of the bed because stones will prevent the sides from closing once opened.
You will need to stretch the frame as it ends too close to the rear suspension spring hanger to put a dump bed hinge with that limited room there at the end
Wow that's a great truck. It will look awesome after a bit of renovation. you were so lucky, engine started without much trouble, and i cant believe the clutch wasn't stuck fast, and the brakes worked.What a great find.
Definitely should make a hauler body with some compartments and set it up for long haul with the gooseneck. Be one hell of a rig to go and pick projects up with.
Waldo, I've found that the best group of guys to get info or parts for the IDIs to be Classic Diesel designs. They've got guys pushing a lot of power out of 'em, and they've got more aftermarket parts than anyone i've seen. They've got a nice variety of injection pumps and turbo kits for all the different power levels you could want for an IDI. I'm sure they'd be plenty helpful in getting the 6.9 up to an acceptable power level. Keep up the great content, can't wait to see all of the projects finished!
If its the same 6.9IDI as you find in the ford pickups, they dont really like that much power added, at least not without some serious (EXPENSIVE) upgrades. Talking new cylinder liners etc. Best choice would be finding a 7.3IDI thats originally turbo, that gives you the best starting point (and might not need any more, to be fair, those make great torque!) But for any real power, best economical bet would be a 7.3 powerstroke.
My town has a broken ‘90s Ford F6000 (I think, I just know that it’s a full sized dump truck) with a stick. It was the last official stick shift truck on the town’s insurance. The reason it’s off the road now is because, while they were putting down brine, it stopped in the middle of the road. And after that hooked a backhoe to the frame to pull it back to the yard, the rear axle simply fell off. They welded it so many times that there wasn’t any metal to weld to, so now it sits in the DPW yard with its newest friend an ‘88 E-One Hurricane which was retired in 2019.
I’ve got a 7.3 idi which is basically the same engine as the 6.9 and I can tell you it’s a good engine but you should see if you can put you a turbo kit on it so you can get up and going a whole lot faster. Nice looking truck for what you paid.
@@WaldosWorld I have many years as a journeyman mechanic at Ford dealerships. The turbo is a great suggestion. Ford, back in the day, would still warranty those engines if you installed a Ford approved system. Banks sold tons of turbo's for that engine. As far as service on the engine goes, you did it all just right. Good job.
Excellent choice to turn it into a dump truck they are so damn handy to have around. It was very wise of you to change all the filters and oil before starting it. Really looking forward to the homemade dump body on this will make a great video series!!!
I thoroughly enjoy watching someone take a basically discarded vehicle like this and methodically return it to usefulness. I've done this to a bit lesser degree, and there's a great satisfaction one gets doing it. Thank you, Waldo.
I have an obs atm so the start of this is very accurate and I’ve been wanting a duality and also a bigger truck like this for work so good to hear they are going down in price
Unless you're changing your oil filter in a sandstorm, I'd bet the farm that prefilling your filter in the long term saves more wear on the engine than any potential unfiltered oil damage would cause by far. Congrats on 100k! I found your channel before you hit 10k, I KNEW you were gonna be big when I first saw your videos. Here's to another 100k!
Yeah, pre-filling your oil filters seems like a "no brainer" to me but there are lots of people that claim it's unnecessary or even detrimental to the engine. A lot of the "professional mechanics" on TH-cam lately have been making a point to show them installing dry filters for some reason.
Heavy equipment and truck mechanic here and I regularly fill up the oil filters on rigs and equipment when I change them. That's roughly a gallon of oil you don't have to put in the oil pan when filling up.
Thats a great engine. I had 280k of towing miles on my newer 7.3 idi f250 and it ran well. Looks like you have enough room, next time you change the oil, use a 7.3 powerstroke oil filter. It screws right on and is about twice the size. Also change the coolant and add a coolant conditioning additive. The non turbo idi’s, particularly the 7.3 had alittle bit of trouble with cavitation in the coolant galleys around the cylinders. Other than that, no major issues with that engine. Will run on almost anything flammable lol. Also on mine, i had a dynomax y pipe with a 4 inch straight pipe to a 5 inch stack and it was a beastly sounding truck. I have a couple videos on my channel of the truck and those dont even do its justice on the sound. I cant wait to see more!
Great score. Very solid truck with a nice clean look, But, to this day, the International Loadstar is still one of the best looking trucks ever. Based on my 50 years of personal experience, nothing bad will happen from pre filling an oil filter......as long as you use new oil. Likely not pre filling the filter is OK as well. 😉 Congrats on the 100k. Harvey 👍
Waldo.. you are the right sort of human, with a vizsla to keep you fit. We also had a viszla called Aspen, sadly she passed away last year. Keep up the good work, Greetings from Scotland.
Omg Waldo!!!! As a former truck driver,you got a STEAL!!!!!! My exact first thought was "He should make a dump truck"... I'm so excited to see the work on this!!!!!! Awesome and Harvey is a great name....
Nothing wrong with that engine. Sounds like it's trying to fire. My 7.3 idi sounds exactly like that and it's got excellent compression in all 8. Just like you said it's got a little air in it. They do make turbo kits for them, but don't push it much past about 10 psi. Those old engines may not be the most powerful, but they really are some of the most reliable. The 6.9 has the thicker walls and I've seen them last as long as the 12v Cummins. Congrats on 100k!
I had a 1988 S1654 (the uhaul) with a 7.3, it sounded exactly the same when cold. Got it in Villa Rica Georgia where it had been sitting for ten years amd drove it to North Carolina. Did all the preventative stuff...oil, fuel, filters, injectors and glow plugs, and ujoints. Loaded it with all my worldly possessions and drove it 3000 miles to Astoria Oregon. Used it as a storage unit/workshop for 5 years and then drove it to Alaska. Used it as a storage unit for 3 more years and then sold it for $3k more than I paid for it. Kinda wish I'd hung on to it and bobbed the frame and put a flatbed on it. Loaded to its 18k pound gross weight, the dang thing only got a mpg or two worse mileage than my 97 big block Chevy gets empty!
@@Jacksonkellyfreak definitely. If I ever find myself needing more truck than my 97 K2500, I'll probably look for another 1600 series International. If you just need rugged dependability without all the bells and whistles and Cadillac-ride of a fancy pickup, they really can't be beat. My uhaul would do 65 mph (eventually)...and I would bet that losing the huge 4000 pound aluminum box plus 16 ish feet of frame rails, and swapping the 19.5 wheels out for full 22.5's, it would probably have loped along at 65-70 pretty nicely.
one of my favorite trucks by intersmashable, im going to be looking for near the same configuration for me an my wife to take to town or automotive gatherings, hope to see more of your new rig in the future
I worked as an armored truck guard, and the company I worked for had a fleet of these 86-89 International Harvesters. These trucks were the most reliable that I had ever seen in my time there.
I would definitely look to see if banks still offers a turbo kit for that old 6.9 . Intercooler as well. If not that route, i would at least dual it out to let it breathe a bit more. Dual stacks would be nice.
Awesome truck! Really like the old idi even though the gassers of the era probably had more power. Would be really cool if you sourced a turbo kit and put stacks on it but still really nice the way it is.
One major downside of these idis is that if you run outta fuel you will air lock them and you have to crack all the injectors. But overall that truck sounds pretty good! Great find!
Not true, my friend. Just fill those fuel filters and crank. The lift pump will prime the Injection pump within about a 4-1000ths count then the pressurized fuel from the injection pump to the injectors will flow. There's no need to bleed air. One major downside of older equipment is junk in your fuel tank. This truck has a filter before the lift pump which is a major plus. A 1984 F-250 with a 6.9L does not have a pre-filter and junk can get into the lift pump and puncture the diaphragm which creates a hidden vacuum between the injection pump and lift pump. If you then add a filter before the lift pump you have to take into account the flow resistance that a filter adds and adjust your lift pump accordingly. I agree, he found a gem for $1k. Nice!
Congrats on a solid buy! These type of rigs are still out here. It's better in the hands of you or someone the like. These machines will run dang near forever. So many uses and such a unit.😏👍💙
Congrats on your new truck! I picked up an old C60 single axle with no bed, looks much like yours. Looking forward to seeing what you end up with so I can get some ideas. Love your videos
That’s a good looking truck! I have a 1985 S1600 with the 6.9 and a 1992 4900 with a DT466. Plus a couple International 3800 school buses. You might say I’m a die hard International truck enthusiast. Your truck sounds pretty good, I believe it will serve you well!
That truck sound fine really nice, but consider double clutching from low to second at the very least. Which means take off as usual then clutch in to neutral clutch out briefly, clutch in again to second and continue. You'll be surprised by how much happier the synchronizers in the transmission will be,. You won't have to force the shift at all just match the RPMs this will likely result in preventing a bigger headache in the future.
Someone took care of or at least cared enough about this truck to use Wix filters so that’s a good sign (except maybe the part about the missing air filter🙂). I can’t believe anyone would try to make the argument against pre-filling oil filters with fresh CLEAN oil. Awesome score man looking forward to this project.
Looks like you got a great deal! Harvey seems to fit him, too. Great channel you've put together here, but I have to pay closer attention to my notifications, so I don't miss anything!
Waldo again with another amazing video! Thank you for putting the metric measurements in the video, so a danish kid like me can actually kinda relate to the things you say :D Also Congratulations on 100k Subs, well deserved
Nice truck. When I worked maintenance for a small town casino, we had one that was a single rear wheel dump truck we used a snow pusher in winter and hauled dirt and anything our boss had on the schedule. Good truck. Our was an automatic.
Love it! Surprisingly clean and not all rusted or beat up And who doesn’t absolutely LOVE the sound of the old IDI International V8 diesel engines Was this used as a mobile home toter? The orange beacons look similar to what I see often on toters, and the short wheelbase of a dump is often what they use. Curious as to what the gearing is and if you will be able to do much more than 55 on the highway. Not really important if you won’t have to travel highways, but something to keep in mind if you do. Those IDIs don’t really like to rev high for long periods (Probably wouldn’t be worth it but if you can find a turbo kit for a 6.9 or 7.3, or better yet the somewhat hard to find 93-94 Factory turbo IDI 7.3 for the Ford trucks either as a kit or maybe even in a wrecked or rusted out truck I’m sure the extra power will be much appreciated) Can’t wait to see what’s next with this ol girl!
That truck looks great for the year it is. That engine was in a lot of Ford trucks in the 80s and is reliable but slow. Have you thought about putting a turbocharger kit on it? If so check out Hypermax. I don’t think they put those 2 speed axles on newer medium duty trucks now but I guess it’s from the engines being more powerful.
I definitely think you should put a turbo in it, but make sure if you go that route you put head studs in. The 6.9 won't last very long under boost without them! Can't wait to follow this series
2:40 those split rims are dangerous ,glad to hear that your getting rid of them. It’s a nice old truck but I’d passed and waited for a DT 466, so much more of an engine.We have both we just got rid of the last 7.3 IDI, reliable but completely gutless and they do not start well in cold weather. Good luck with it, should be fun building it.
A banks turbo makes them somewhat viable. Without a turbo, they feel pointless. The fact that a turbo gives you better mileage while giving you more power tells you how much it needs help.
@@esqueue you can pick one up with a dt466 or a 360 for maybe $500 more and you have an engine that is better in stock form but also has unlimited performance potential.
Love the truck, Waldo! Wish I had the space for a beast like this. Does the truck have a hydraulic pump on it now that you can use for the dumpbox lift cylinders? Congrats on the 100k, never a doubt in my mind that you’d make it. 👍
Thanks Greg! Yep, the truck does have a hydraulic pump, though the ports are not closed off, so it's probably full of water. Maybe I can fix it up and use it 🤷♂️
Would make a great tow vehicle for a big caravan (trailer van) for a trip around Australia. Could carry a small car on the tray for sight seeing when you set up camp. We don't have these cool mid size trucks in Australia. Love your show.
Would love to see this truck become a wrecker, then you can drag home more projects!!!!….it’s an IDI, meaning it is an absolute slug but it is one of the most resilient motor ever, you could feed it almost anything and it’ll still run, hell I’ve seen people run a 6.9 IDI on gasoline after initially being started with diesel
My first truck was a 1988 F350 with the 7.3 idi, with an ATS turbo setup. I highly recommend the turbo addition. It'll make it have the power of a 7.3 Powerstroke. Also, I converted my truck to an electronic lift pump. It made it idle much smoother and increased power.
I can NOT believe how solid that truck seems considering it was a cheap auction item.... congratulations
Thank you!
Yea
These go for cheaper then they should I use a 1987 international with the Detroit 466 as a yard dog at my shop along with a 2005 FL Columbia say an with the 12.7 series 60. The old international starts better on cold days but stays in the lot for the most part with the whopping maybe 220ho and the gearing only allowing 55-60 but she won’t die and has been the cheapest to maintain. She’s even cheaper then my 2018 ford, Chevy and dodge parts runner trucks yearly but those trucks have over 180k on them. As I digress, these old daycab medium duty trucks are either sent off to death as dump trucks from new or last longer and run better then anything you can buy new. They’re endearing and frustrating, a 1-10k super old medium duty will start better at -30 then a (still old but with one of the more desirable engines for reliability, maintenance, power and pre emission) 05 columbia. Someone take me back I was born too late we forgot about craftsmanship and standing behind a product
Agreed 👍 after he changed the oil and fuel filters that thing ran pretty good
Good Job 👍 I like to see someone taking the time to do that Looks like a good investment
put a bathroom on it, make it a portable shower and toilet on the go
What ever happened to this truck?
I've owned a number of vehicles with the IH 6.9 diesel... The governor on them doesn't go full-fuel when they're shut off, it just stays at the idle fuel setting. So when starting, per the instructions, you're supposed to hold the accelerator pedal to the floor while cranking and release the pedal when the engine starts. Doing this, you will notice the engine will start much better, especially in cold weather. In fact, if you don't do this in cold weather, it may not start for you at all!
Great note to make in the forum.
As an Aussie thx for adding metric conversion. Not many people do it and it’s such a simple way to help most of the rest of the worlds viewers 😁
@@notfiveoYeah? What if there was an animal in the air pick-up?
$1000 for a running, driving truck is a great deal! I love this gen International.
Thanks!
Harvey, what a fitting name for such a cool rig!! I would say you hit a home run with this one!!! Stay safe!!
Thank you!
@@WaldosWorld you got away with murder....down south these are gold
I prefer "Nat".
These little short wheelbase IH trucks are FANTASTIC--basically just a big pickup, especially with the 6.9 which nobody wants (everybody wants the DT466) so it's cheapcheapcheap! Bless your soul for keeping the Dayton wheels--so many folks nowadays chuck them out because they're "difficult" but whatever man, they look awesome! And like you said, super easy to convert to modern 22.5s. This thing will serve you faithfully for years, thanks for saving it.
We run Daytons on allot of our Trailers still in 2024 and I don't mind them either. Stay up on painting the Steel, Keeping up on Wheel Locks/Shims being proper type/size/style and tightening in a uniform pattern and they are just fine.
Allot better than Budd Wheels IMO.
Budd are way too expensive to replace studs or time consuming.
Keep that nut on threads while that Rim Clamp breaks free and you're fine. 😮
Is it just me that is amazed at how clean Waldo stays working on these old pieces of equipment? My hands would be covered in grease and oil just walking by the truck.
It is really impressive to be honest.
Don't feel bad buddy I'm grease magnet to 😅
If there's mud grease or anything else I'll find it... 😂
Waldo, to fix that dent in the back of the cab, try and stuff a deflated basketball behind the dent and inflate it, it’ll most likely pop it out fairly decent rather than a bunch of hammer dents
Good call!
😂 I love how everyone has suggestions, as if Waldo is made of money and as if he doesn't fix his trucks up.
@@TheRoadhammer379 I mean a basketball isn't expensive even
@@TheRoadhammer379 the whole point of that comment was to suggest a cheaper way of doing a repair...not to mention the whole point of building the truck is to make money on TH-cam...id recommend that you think before you comment
Those Old International's were practically indestructible. My nickname for them was always "Cronbinders" . Harvey would be a good name for sure.
Cornbinders
It's Binder, for short.
I grew up on a farm with international tractors and drive semi trucks for my main income. The first time I heard "cornbinder" referring to internationals was from a retired truck driver 5 years ago in a bar. An old boss of mine used to call them "inter-smash-ionals"
StoneThrowers
YOUR NICKNAME?? That is common place for them old International trucks cuz of the international tractors and farm equipment..
These Internationals were some of the best trucks ever made and my favorite. I remember working on this style truck when Uhaul had them in the late 80's and 90's. Those old IDI engines were reliable and tough. Not much on power but it got the job done. Would love to own a truck like this. Please make more videos on this truck if you do any mechanical stuff with it,.
His 6.9L has a B50 life of 350,000 miles so as they say, it's just getting broken in at 150k.
I drove these with the 9 L V8, Allison Auto trans. Good torque down low, not a lot of peak power. Split rim tires are the first thing you should change, tho.
@@aaronhumphrey2009 I remember driving one of these as well when I worked for Budweiser for a few years starting in 1996. Loud as all hell, crap on high end power but damn did they run on flat ground or slight grades.
Can't wait to see the transformation....
@Waldo's World - any update?
Congrats on the new addition! I had the identical truck for years. If you find hard starting coming on especially on hot days, pick up an o-ring kit for the injectors and fuel line connections. They were made for a different blend of diesel, and the new diesel eats them away. Nice truck, great deal, and easy to bulletproof. You’ll have it for a good long time.
This will be a fun project. If this is anything like the 6.9 non-turbo, a turbo is completely necessary for this engine to be viable. Test drove a pickup with a 6.9 pickup and the thing couldn't even get out of its own way. Test drove another with a Banks turbo kit and it made a world of difference.
Yeah, I think I'll add a turbo to it. It must be EXTREMELY slow as-is 😂
@@WaldosWorld i have 2 idi 7.3 and had a 85 6.9 i love the idi my one 7.3 is turbo its night and day difference for a medium duty you will have to make your own turbo kit
Do not put a turbo on it ! I’ve owned multiple 6.9 and 7.3 idi trucks all will last forever and pull a house down without all that turbo junk
@@snakedr5917 funny cuz i have 2 turbo idis and they love it and both have 200k on and never neen rebuilt
@@jore551 200k is not a lot… at all
The look of that international is amazing. I love the way the cab lights look. Definitely the perfect setup for a little dump truck. I owned a 1985 GMC brigadier with an 8v92 Detroit Diesel. 10 wheeler dump truck. I bought it to build my parents property up. Ended up doing other things with it. Moved well over 400 loads with it. Paid 5k. More than paid for itself. It's amazing how well commercial vehicles were built in the late '80s in through the 90s. Although GM was a little worse than international with corrosion. It was a southern truck and still had Holes in the floor. Will be nice to see what you do with this one.
A dump truck??? NOOOOOOO i was hoping for a gooseneck dump trailer build. Curse you Waldo!!!
I would love to see that little truck with a 5th wheel, then you could use it to pull a camping trailer or a small dump trailer (cool project too). Harvey is a great name.
It's a nice truck . I would recommend replacing all the wheels with aluminum tubeless wheels , maybe we're your at its easy to find people to replace them , but around here most company's won't do split rims
Split ring not split rim. Whole different deal. New rims will mount up 22.5 tubless
Split rings are easy but can take your head off. You literally stand on the tire and hold the ring down with a foot while you pry it off. Same for install. They require a tube which is usually the hardest part, which is actually pretty easy on a split ring. Never messed with a split rim
No aluminum wheels available for the spoke Dayton hubs.
Definitely an excellent upgrade to 22.5 tubeless rims!!
Agreed. New hubs and wheels to be able to mount standard 10 lug wheels. Plus nothing beats shiny alcoas
I love the dump bed idea but it hit me when you said it was an 8' bed and you could put a regular truck bed on it. What if you made a dump bed that looks like a regular truck bed.
You’ve stumbled on one of the best workhorses to ever come down the pick. IH made jewels for a very long time. Most folks now have no clue what a they’re missing. Pure US iron.
I don't know how far along in this build you are already, but you should definitely put fold down sides on the dump body. Assuming you are not making the sides 4 ft tall. At work we have a 550 with fold down sides and it completely changes how we use the truck. We can fit bobcat attachments in it. You can fit anything in it I guess, its like having another flat bed. I don't see any downside to having the sides fold down besides occasionally you have to clean out the mating surface from the side to the bottom of the bed because stones will prevent the sides from closing once opened.
You will need to stretch the frame as it ends too close to the rear suspension spring hanger to put a dump bed hinge with that limited room there at the end
Wow that's a great truck. It will look awesome after a bit of renovation. you were so lucky, engine started without much trouble, and i cant believe the clutch wasn't stuck fast, and the brakes worked.What a great find.
I was late to the show but enjoyed they one immensely. Would love to see it transformed into a dump truck
Definitely should make a hauler body with some compartments and set it up for long haul with the gooseneck. Be one hell of a rig to go and pick projects up with.
That’s what I think also.
Excellent idea
Waldo, I've found that the best group of guys to get info or parts for the IDIs to be Classic Diesel designs. They've got guys pushing a lot of power out of 'em, and they've got more aftermarket parts than anyone i've seen. They've got a nice variety of injection pumps and turbo kits for all the different power levels you could want for an IDI. I'm sure they'd be plenty helpful in getting the 6.9 up to an acceptable power level. Keep up the great content, can't wait to see all of the projects finished!
Thanks for the tip!
If its the same 6.9IDI as you find in the ford pickups, they dont really like that much power added, at least not without some serious (EXPENSIVE) upgrades. Talking new cylinder liners etc. Best choice would be finding a 7.3IDI thats originally turbo, that gives you the best starting point (and might not need any more, to be fair, those make great torque!) But for any real power, best economical bet would be a 7.3 powerstroke.
My town has a broken ‘90s Ford F6000 (I think, I just know that it’s a full sized dump truck) with a stick. It was the last official stick shift truck on the town’s insurance. The reason it’s off the road now is because, while they were putting down brine, it stopped in the middle of the road. And after that hooked a backhoe to the frame to pull it back to the yard, the rear axle simply fell off. They welded it so many times that there wasn’t any metal to weld to, so now it sits in the DPW yard with its newest friend an ‘88 E-One Hurricane which was retired in 2019.
Very excited!! Can’t wait to see how it progresses!
I’ve got a 7.3 idi which is basically the same engine as the 6.9 and I can tell you it’s a good engine but you should see if you can put you a turbo kit on it so you can get up and going a whole lot faster. Nice looking truck for what you paid.
Good call on the turbo kit 👍
Yes, we had an '89 model IDI and added a turbo. It was worth it.
Last time I was looking, the Banks kit was no longer available. It was suggested to get the turbo setup from a mid 90s 7.3.
@@wintonhudelson2252 mines a 89 f350 and I plan on adding a turbo with a intercooler kit.
@@WaldosWorld I have many years as a journeyman mechanic at Ford dealerships. The turbo is a great suggestion. Ford, back in the day, would still warranty those engines if you installed a Ford approved system. Banks sold tons of turbo's for that engine. As far as service on the engine goes, you did it all just right. Good job.
Excellent choice to turn it into a dump truck they are so damn handy to have around. It was very wise of you to change all the filters and oil before starting it. Really looking forward to the homemade dump body on this will make a great video series!!!
I thoroughly enjoy watching someone take a basically discarded vehicle like this and methodically return it to usefulness. I've done this to a bit lesser degree, and there's a great satisfaction one gets doing it. Thank you, Waldo.
I have an obs atm so the start of this is very accurate and I’ve been wanting a duality and also a bigger truck like this for work so good to hear they are going down in price
I wouldn't have even batted a eye at that price. Got a killer deal on that rig
Amazing deal, I agree its crazy these medium duty trucks are cheaper then pickups. Too bad it doesn't have a bigger medium duty engine though.
Hope you bring this thing back i was hoping to see more with this truck
Holy crap man! Congratulations on 100k, well deserved. Looking forward to watch your progress with Harvey
Diesel Creek and you doing a video together would honestly make the best damn video on TH-cam.
Unless you're changing your oil filter in a sandstorm, I'd bet the farm that prefilling your filter in the long term saves more wear on the engine than any potential unfiltered oil damage would cause by far. Congrats on 100k! I found your channel before you hit 10k, I KNEW you were gonna be big when I first saw your videos. Here's to another 100k!
Thank you! Yeah, I agree with your assessment on pre-filling 👍
Yeah, pre-filling your oil filters seems like a "no brainer" to me but there are lots of people that claim it's unnecessary or even detrimental to the engine. A lot of the "professional mechanics" on TH-cam lately have been making a point to show them installing dry filters for some reason.
The oil is clean enough, it's brand new oil!
Heavy equipment and truck mechanic here and I regularly fill up the oil filters on rigs and equipment when I change them. That's roughly a gallon of oil you don't have to put in the oil pan when filling up.
If you've got particulate and grit in your brand new oil bucket I'm sorry to tell you, it ain't brand new. The dry filter people are whackos.
Just needed a little TLC, huh? Amazing what these machines can do with a little love.
One of the most beautiful, nicely proportioned vehicles I have seen. Thanks for working on this.
Thats a great engine. I had 280k of towing miles on my newer 7.3 idi f250 and it ran well. Looks like you have enough room, next time you change the oil, use a 7.3 powerstroke oil filter. It screws right on and is about twice the size. Also change the coolant and add a coolant conditioning additive. The non turbo idi’s, particularly the 7.3 had alittle bit of trouble with cavitation in the coolant galleys around the cylinders. Other than that, no major issues with that engine. Will run on almost anything flammable lol. Also on mine, i had a dynomax y pipe with a 4 inch straight pipe to a 5 inch stack and it was a beastly sounding truck. I have a couple videos on my channel of the truck and those dont even do its justice on the sound. I cant wait to see more!
Thanks for the tip! I just ordered a power stroke filter for the next oil change 👍
That is a beastly sounding truck lol
Great score. Very solid truck with a nice clean look, But, to this day, the International Loadstar is still one of the best looking trucks ever. Based on my 50 years of personal experience, nothing bad will happen from pre filling an oil filter......as long as you use new oil. Likely not pre filling the filter is OK as well. 😉 Congrats on the 100k. Harvey 👍
This is my favorite channel on TH-cam now. Been watching all the videos. Love all the details and the effort.
GREAT BUY!!! Definitely fix it up! Clean and classy.
Such a cool truck! Can't wait to see this build!
That's things is a beauty
Can not wait to see this build!
Waldo.. you are the right sort of human, with a vizsla to keep you fit. We also had a viszla called Aspen, sadly she passed away last year. Keep up the good work, Greetings from Scotland.
Congratulations on the hundred K Waldo! Looking forward to the Harvey build. I know you won’t disappoint on the build.👍🏻
Thank you so much!
Omg Waldo!!!! As a former truck driver,you got a STEAL!!!!!!
My exact first thought was "He should make a dump truck"...
I'm so excited to see the work on this!!!!!! Awesome and Harvey is a great name....
Free feeling is common sense
Nice truck! Thanks for making your videos!
Nothing wrong with that engine. Sounds like it's trying to fire. My 7.3 idi sounds exactly like that and it's got excellent compression in all 8. Just like you said it's got a little air in it. They do make turbo kits for them, but don't push it much past about 10 psi. Those old engines may not be the most powerful, but they really are some of the most reliable. The 6.9 has the thicker walls and I've seen them last as long as the 12v Cummins. Congrats on 100k!
Thank you!
7.3 good engine
I had a 1988 S1654 (the uhaul) with a 7.3, it sounded exactly the same when cold. Got it in Villa Rica Georgia where it had been sitting for ten years amd drove it to North Carolina. Did all the preventative stuff...oil, fuel, filters, injectors and glow plugs, and ujoints. Loaded it with all my worldly possessions and drove it 3000 miles to Astoria Oregon. Used it as a storage unit/workshop for 5 years and then drove it to Alaska. Used it as a storage unit for 3 more years and then sold it for $3k more than I paid for it. Kinda wish I'd hung on to it and bobbed the frame and put a flatbed on it. Loaded to its 18k pound gross weight, the dang thing only got a mpg or two worse mileage than my 97 big block Chevy gets empty!
@@Edhooey hell I'd have made it into a ramp truck! Those old idi engines are some of the best
@@Jacksonkellyfreak definitely. If I ever find myself needing more truck than my 97 K2500, I'll probably look for another 1600 series International. If you just need rugged dependability without all the bells and whistles and Cadillac-ride of a fancy pickup, they really can't be beat. My uhaul would do 65 mph (eventually)...and I would bet that losing the huge 4000 pound aluminum box plus 16 ish feet of frame rails, and swapping the 19.5 wheels out for full 22.5's, it would probably have loped along at 65-70 pretty nicely.
one of my favorite trucks by intersmashable, im going to be looking for near the same configuration for me an my wife to take to town or automotive gatherings, hope to see more of your new rig in the future
Waldo is living the dream.
I’m both inspired and jealous.
Renovating my bathroom is a small step, working towards a few bigger projects
I worked as an armored truck guard, and the company I worked for had a fleet of these 86-89 International Harvesters. These trucks were the most reliable that I had ever seen in my time there.
I would definitely look to see if banks still offers a turbo kit for that old 6.9 . Intercooler as well. If not that route, i would at least dual it out to let it breathe a bit more. Dual stacks would be nice.
Datons always have a classic look. Only downside is the split rim killer.
It's not a split rim.
Awesome truck! Really like the old idi even though the gassers of the era probably had more power. Would be really cool if you sourced a turbo kit and put stacks on it but still really nice the way it is.
what a nice little truck harvey is
Nice find! Wouldn't mind hearing the rest of your remix "I like big trucks and I cannot lie"
That was totally unplanned and just came out of my mouth 😂
You could always stretch the frame. Pretty common in big rigs.
Congrats on the 100,000 subscribers!! And looking forward on this build also!!!! Thanks
Thank you!
ive always wanted an old farm truck,. they are so solid since they are only used in summer and they are beautiful
One major downside of these idis is that if you run outta fuel you will air lock them and you have to crack all the injectors. But overall that truck sounds pretty good! Great find!
Not true, my friend. Just fill those fuel filters and crank. The lift pump will prime the Injection pump within about a 4-1000ths count then the pressurized fuel from the injection pump to the injectors will flow. There's no need to bleed air.
One major downside of older equipment is junk in your fuel tank. This truck has a filter before the lift pump which is a major plus. A 1984 F-250 with a 6.9L does not have a pre-filter and junk can get into the lift pump and puncture the diaphragm which creates a hidden vacuum between the injection pump and lift pump. If you then add a filter before the lift pump you have to take into account the flow resistance that a filter adds and adjust your lift pump accordingly.
I agree, he found a gem for $1k. Nice!
Don't run out fuel then lol
Congrats on a solid buy! These type of rigs are still out here. It's better in the hands of you or someone the like. These machines will run dang near forever. So many uses and such a unit.😏👍💙
Congrats on your new truck! I picked up an old C60 single axle with no bed, looks much like yours. Looking forward to seeing what you end up with so I can get some ideas. Love your videos
Congratulations on a good deal for your truck. Keep us posted. Cheers from Papua New Guinea 🇵🇬
Waldo, your channel is perfect! Please don't change anything!
I appreciate it!
Definitely been hyped for this since seeing it on your Instagram a few days ago, always excited when i see a new upload
Glad to hear it! 👍
Pickup body! Awesome look! Don't forget twin stacks. Prefect!
Keep up the good work partner, Thanks for all the knowledge you humbly give to us.
That’s a good looking truck! I have a 1985 S1600 with the 6.9 and a 1992 4900 with a DT466. Plus a couple International 3800 school buses. You might say I’m a die hard International truck enthusiast. Your truck sounds pretty good, I believe it will serve you well!
Very cool! Thanks! 🤠
Same here; bus and firetruck. DT466 is a masterpiece!
@@lavasiouxwindwater9789 the 466 is a legend!
That would look awesome towing your gooseneck trailer
It would indeed!
Cool truck!!
Turbo kit and exhaust stacks
That truck sound fine really nice, but consider double clutching from low to second at the very least. Which means take off as usual then clutch in to neutral clutch out briefly, clutch in again to second and continue. You'll be surprised by how much happier the synchronizers in the transmission will be,. You won't have to force the shift at all just match the RPMs this will likely result in preventing a bigger headache in the future.
Someone took care of or at least cared enough about this truck to use Wix filters so that’s a good sign (except maybe the part about the missing air filter🙂). I can’t believe anyone would try to make the argument against pre-filling oil filters with fresh CLEAN oil. Awesome score man looking forward to this project.
Knew a guy that would only change his oil filter. Ran the same oil on a VW for like 450K miles.
Looks like you got a great deal! Harvey seems to fit him, too. Great channel you've put together here, but I have to pay closer attention to my notifications, so I don't miss anything!
I appreciate it!
Can't wait till the next video.
One of the coolest trucks I've seen, awesome find
Congrats on your 100k subs
Thank you!
Waldo again with another amazing video! Thank you for putting the metric measurements in the video, so a danish kid like me can actually kinda relate to the things you say :D
Also Congratulations on 100k Subs, well deserved
Thank you!
I can’t wait to see the upgrades. Exciting ☺️👍🏼
Nice truck. When I worked maintenance for a small town casino, we had one that was a single rear wheel dump truck we used a snow pusher in winter and hauled dirt and anything our boss had on the schedule. Good truck. Our was an automatic.
Love it! Surprisingly clean and not all rusted or beat up
And who doesn’t absolutely LOVE the sound of the old IDI International V8 diesel engines
Was this used as a mobile home toter? The orange beacons look similar to what I see often on toters, and the short wheelbase of a dump is often what they use.
Curious as to what the gearing is and if you will be able to do much more than 55 on the highway. Not really important if you won’t have to travel highways, but something to keep in mind if you do. Those IDIs don’t really like to rev high for long periods
(Probably wouldn’t be worth it but if you can find a turbo kit for a 6.9 or 7.3, or better yet the somewhat hard to find 93-94 Factory turbo IDI 7.3 for the Ford trucks either as a kit or maybe even in a wrecked or rusted out truck I’m sure the extra power will be much appreciated)
Can’t wait to see what’s next with this ol girl!
“Idi’s don’t like high rpms” Slave lake begs to differ. Mint!
That truck looks great for the year it is. That engine was in a lot of Ford trucks in the 80s and is reliable but slow. Have you thought about putting a turbocharger kit on it? If so check out Hypermax. I don’t think they put those 2 speed axles on newer medium duty trucks now but I guess it’s from the engines being more powerful.
Thank you! A turbo sounds like a great idea!
Can't wait to see more videos on it!
I wish I could run onto a truck like that. I’m glad you got it.
I definitely think you should put a turbo in it, but make sure if you go that route you put head studs in. The 6.9 won't last very long under boost without them! Can't wait to follow this series
2:40 those split rims are dangerous ,glad to hear that your getting rid of them. It’s a nice old truck but I’d passed and waited for a DT 466, so much more of an engine.We have both we just got rid of the last 7.3 IDI, reliable but completely gutless and they do not start well in cold weather. Good luck with it, should be fun building it.
Completely agree about the engine. Even a dt360 would have been a huge upgrade over an idi.
A banks turbo makes them somewhat viable. Without a turbo, they feel pointless. The fact that a turbo gives you better mileage while giving you more power tells you how much it needs help.
@@esqueue you can pick one up with a dt466 or a 360 for maybe $500 more and you have an engine that is better in stock form but also has unlimited performance potential.
@@farmyardfab where do y’all find thesw
@@anthonymckenzie4234 there was a crew cab s1700 with a dt360 listed for$2000 30min from my house.
Awesome find, I hope you take good care of it.
Hey thank you for keeping me Entertained
You also could install a fifth wheel and build a trailer for it! ;-D
A fifth wheel sure is tempting 😂
Love the truck, Waldo! Wish I had the space for a beast like this. Does the truck have a hydraulic pump on it now that you can use for the dumpbox lift cylinders? Congrats on the 100k, never a doubt in my mind that you’d make it. 👍
Thanks Greg! Yep, the truck does have a hydraulic pump, though the ports are not closed off, so it's probably full of water. Maybe I can fix it up and use it 🤷♂️
Would make a great tow vehicle for a big caravan (trailer van) for a trip around Australia. Could carry a small car on the tray for sight seeing when you set up camp. We don't have these cool mid size trucks in Australia. Love your show.
That’s a nice score right there! Very nice buy
Would love to see this truck become a wrecker, then you can drag home more projects!!!!….it’s an IDI, meaning it is an absolute slug but it is one of the most resilient motor ever, you could feed it almost anything and it’ll still run, hell I’ve seen people run a 6.9 IDI on gasoline after initially being started with diesel
I would love to have a rollback if this had a longer frame. Maybe (probably?) one day... 🤔
“The year 1986”……o boy
My first truck was a 1988 F350 with the 7.3 idi, with an ATS turbo setup. I highly recommend the turbo addition. It'll make it have the power of a 7.3 Powerstroke.
Also, I converted my truck to an electronic lift pump. It made it idle much smoother and increased power.
I do love the fact that you are not tight on your money regarding filter changes etc. Sorry about my english but I’m from Denmark