Drunken Pilot | Aeroflot Flight 821

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  • @FH99
    @FH99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    A drunk and inexperienced captain and an unproven first officer, is about as bad of a combination as you can have on the flight deck.

    • @Olilego
      @Olilego 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Or 2 dead pilots either or tbf

    • @MrGoogelaar
      @MrGoogelaar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Add to that a defective plane and the recipe for a disaster is complete.

    • @Olilego
      @Olilego 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MrGoogelaar indeed

    • @muffs55mercury61
      @muffs55mercury61 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes. Almost from the beginning as they were approaching it looked like an accident waiting to happen. I don''t think the captain had a clue on what to do next so he passed it off to the first officer and said to deal with it.

    • @Olilego
      @Olilego 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@muffs55mercury61 technically, in a way, he did deal with it

  • @janvanhaaster2093
    @janvanhaaster2093 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I flew flight 821 Moscow->Perm in january 2001 when it was performed by the main Aeroflot (not the Nord division as here) with a Tupolev Tu-134. When a stewardess upon entry in the cabin could hear that I was not Russian she immedeately notified the captain who then tried to make all cabin announcements also in English. Flight was good, food was great, stewardesses were stunning and the landing in Perm (in the dark morning hours on a very snow covered runway) was perfect.
    2 weeks later I made the return flight followed by a Tupolev Tu-154 flight Moscow->Amsterdam. That flight I'll never forget. Amsterdam ATC (probably because of the noisy Tupolev flying over densely populated Amsterdam ZO and Amstelveen) let the plane stay as high as possible for as long as possible; so that the captain had to use 3x the lift-dumping wing spoilers in-flight (I have a pilot licence myself and was sitting next to the wing) in order to quickly lose height while being already close to the runway. So ATC basicly forced the pilot to make a very unstable approach. When we then were descending the last meters towards the runway I was waiting for the noise which is common when the plane and its wheels hit the runway. I waited, and waited.....nothing. I could see others also looking with a question on their face: where was the kaboem noise of landing? Nowhere... The pilot made a landing as smooth as silk, touching down so softly that you could not hear or feel the touching down of the wheels while landing. Only because I could see the wings being level I could know that we had to be on the ground...it was the most perfect landing I ever have experienced in any airliner during 40+ years....

  • @royharper9472
    @royharper9472 2 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    I got sober in 2008 with the help of a support group. There was a pilot of a airline you would know, in my group. He personally said he flew drunk many many times.

    • @bitbs566
      @bitbs566 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      At least this one made it to the ground safely enough to tell the story.

    • @crazychariotgrabber9085
      @crazychariotgrabber9085 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      its so easy to fly now, i'd be on edibles as capt.

    • @topgun1457
      @topgun1457 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@crazychariotgrabber9085 still illegal mate as you can not fly or drive while under the influence

    • @crazychariotgrabber9085
      @crazychariotgrabber9085 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@topgun1457 are you...going to mate with me?

    • @jesuslovesyou-matts
      @jesuslovesyou-matts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Denzel Washington?

  • @Knwuce83wry
    @Knwuce83wry 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I flew Aeroflot March 1986. I was on a student exchange trip to Moscow. We left Turcu Finland on a Tupolev knock off of a Boeing aircraft. Very few of the seats were completely bolted down. They were sort of like sitting in sheet metal. Which they were. The captain could not be heard and there were absolutely no preflight instructions. Those engines sounded like engines from a tractor in the post World War II era.I’ve never been so terrified in my entire life to be on an airplane. Although I will say it had the strongest coffee I’ve ever had in my life. So not only was I terrified I had the jitters. The landing was a crab landing that basically splooted onto the runway.Whatever you do please don’t fly Aeroflot, they don’t even mean well.

    • @donnafromnyc
      @donnafromnyc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Splooted is a new one but most descriptive.

    • @timonsolus
      @timonsolus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think Aeroflot are much better now than they were in Soviet times.

    • @grantchallinor5263
      @grantchallinor5263 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was probably a Tupolev TU-154 that you flew in, which (like the Hawker Siddely Trident and Boeing 727) had 2 engines situated very rearward (one each side of the fuselage) and a 3rd engine centrally, in front of the tail. It was designed in the mid-60s and I doubt it was a "knock-off" of the Boeing aircraft. Aeroflot didn't have the greatest reputation for safety but around the time of your exchange flight it was (by far) the world's largest airline with something like 15% of all civilian passenger journeys carried by them. To be fair, Aeroflot has had a better safety record than some American airlines during the last 20 years.

    • @JasonFlorida
      @JasonFlorida 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What an absolute horrendous combination of inadequacy and high levels of caffeine! They should have handed out valium instead. Lol

    • @getmeouttatennessee4473
      @getmeouttatennessee4473 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@timonsolus They were but post Ukraine invasion, I wouldn't fly them if it were free. They kept those planes they were supposed to return to their lessors and cannot get parts on Airbus/Boeing due to sanctions. They rebuilt pretty nicely until that. Now, they're scary.

  • @TLoveJesus
    @TLoveJesus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Aeroflot needs a breathalyzer in the cockpit before the engines start

    • @michaeldunham3385
      @michaeldunham3385 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Stupid comment, there's plenty of cases of US pilots being found to be intoxicated.
      With the smaller regional airlines fatigue in their pilots is just as bad

    • @TLoveJesus
      @TLoveJesus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@michaeldunham3385 Then there should be an ignition interlock in ALL aircraft.

    • @billolsen4360
      @billolsen4360 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@michaeldunham3385 So that makes it okay for that Russian pilot to be drunk on the flight deck, huh?

    • @michaeldunham3385
      @michaeldunham3385 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@billolsen4360 at what point have I suggested that? I've pointed out that this isn't solely a problem with Russian pilots, but it would be wrong to suggest all Russian pilots fly when drunk

  • @greymark420
    @greymark420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +235

    So let me get this right. A plane with a engine defect, a Captain with not enough experience and drunk, a first officer not able to pass his training. Nice one Aeroflot.

    • @johndouglas5712
      @johndouglas5712 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Nailed it . Yeltsin was drunk all the time so ....

    • @mattt8889
      @mattt8889 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      obviously, don't fly on Aeroflot.

    • @stephengrimmer35
      @stephengrimmer35 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@mattt8889 Aeroflop as it was known back in the day.

    • @chefduane3742
      @chefduane3742 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh, you know those crrrr-aaazzzy Ruskies!!

    • @scottamus8593
      @scottamus8593 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don’t you think your being a bit hard on them?
      Oh god I’m just kidding 😆

  • @b.t.356
    @b.t.356 2 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    I've actually listened to the CVR myself. A warning, it is some haunting and bone-chilling stuff. You could hear the captain's inebriation in his voice and in the words he spoke. It also is disturbing to me how these pilots (allegedly) falsified their qualifications to fly the 737. Scary how their lack of experience and difficulty in the learning process were major factors in this disaster. Also, the fact that the captain was under the influence made me feel ill inside.

    • @kimma508
      @kimma508 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Where can I listen to the CVR?

    • @gusbailey68
      @gusbailey68 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I hate to say this; but Aeroflot is a third world airline.

    • @LegendaryRadioJock
      @LegendaryRadioJock 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@kimma508 do a youtube search for "Aeroflot flight 821 CVR".

    • @kimma508
      @kimma508 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@LegendaryRadioJock Thanks

    • @jptaylor
      @jptaylor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is exactly why I refuse to fly anymore. Not worth the risk.

  • @SSN515
    @SSN515 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Interesting to note that the Russian investigators didn't recommend forbidding the consumption of large quantities of Vodka before strapping in to the pilots seat.

  • @sbolden123
    @sbolden123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Also, if there was a known problem with the aircraft it should have been grounded for maintenance. 😒🤷‍♂️

    • @jstenberg3192
      @jstenberg3192 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's Aeroflot...maintenance is optional.

    • @sbolden123
      @sbolden123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jstenberg3192 it would have saved lives

    • @adotintheshark4848
      @adotintheshark4848 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@sbolden123 not necessarily with a captain crocked to the gills

    • @jstenberg3192
      @jstenberg3192 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@sbolden123 I agree with you...it was a sarcastic dig at Aeroflot. If you think drunk pilots are a problem....the alcoholism of maintenance crew is worse.

    • @sbolden123
      @sbolden123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jstenberg3192 damn 😢

  • @gunsaway1
    @gunsaway1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Never saw throttles with that much split. My airline had a 1/2 knob split as a maximum. Somebody needed to rig that airplane.

  • @alberta1st
    @alberta1st 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    The trust you place on pilots is your life in they're hands, l hope the lady who texted never realized the inevitable decend RIP

    • @generalyellor8188
      @generalyellor8188 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      OF COURSE SHE DID! She went down like the rest of them did.

  • @darcyjorgensen5808
    @darcyjorgensen5808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I know only a few people who have flown Аэрофлот. None flew it twice.

  • @martinkirugi254
    @martinkirugi254 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    So sad that a drunk captain could not correct his incompetent first officer

    • @paulcooper8818
      @paulcooper8818 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Doubt he would have been more helpful sober.

  • @dantc2403
    @dantc2403 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Why did Aeroflot Nord make this inexperienced joker a captain? Was that ever investigated? Whose cousin was he that he got fast-tracked into that role?

    • @cpcattin
      @cpcattin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What ? Me worry ?

    • @billolsen4360
      @billolsen4360 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Joker was warm body in captain's chair. Aeroflot Nord executives ride in private plane with pilots from Phillipines.

  • @sawning3449
    @sawning3449 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Regulatory and corporate failure. Yet another company that was allowed to expand its routes too quickly, couldn't find enough qualified pilots for low wages, and promoted undertrained and inexperienced people beyond their competency. The industry keeps repeating the same mistakes every time there's an economic downturn.

  • @penelopelopez8296
    @penelopelopez8296 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    RIP to the passengers. Those pilots should never have been flying that plane.

  • @petermacmillan6756
    @petermacmillan6756 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    They're flying one of the safest aircraft of all time (the rudder defects in the early 90s and the computerized anti-stall issues on the ones with new engines are rare exceptions) but poor maintenance and incompetent pilots are deadly.

  • @muffs55mercury61
    @muffs55mercury61 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    We trust so many aspects of our lives to people we don't know and it can get scary when you have those like this. When the Pakistan air crash happened a few years ago they found a bunch of their pilots weren't qualified or had been disqualified. Again scary !
    There was another Aeroflot flight (don't know the # off hand) in which the pilots showed up drunk before the flight but fortunately that one never took off.
    I also remember a Japan Air Lines cargo flight in Anchorage, Alaska in which the captain was drunk. How they were allowed to board the plane is unknown. And on this one, didn't the first officer get concerned because his captain was drinking????

  • @EphemeralProductions
    @EphemeralProductions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Russia huh? Probably had been tossing back the vodka. Lol. Seriously though, its obvious the guy was not only drunk but nuts & didn’t care if he killed himself or others

  • @SidewalkRunner
    @SidewalkRunner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Crazy story. Was reading about John Denver’s plane crash. Should cover that one next.

  • @kyrick
    @kyrick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fix in the description about +06 we have Yekaterinburg time, I just live nearby with this place where was air crash September 14, 2008.
    Hello from Perm!

  • @Hatsunari_Kamado
    @Hatsunari_Kamado 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Actually, the case is from Aeroflot-Nord, a former subsidiary of Aeroflot, now Smartavia.

  • @Widderic
    @Widderic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I remember listening to the CVR of this... I would be terrifying to know the Captain was drunk and to then experience the plane banking like that. The fear and dread setting in, knowing that you're about to die because of someones negligence. Hopefully these is a special place in hell for that man.

    • @09weenic
      @09weenic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Is the CVR available online ?

    • @datathunderstorm
      @datathunderstorm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Legend has it that the drunken Captain is still burning in Hell for his transgression. The ultimate betrayal of all the passengers on board and the aircraft itself under his command.

    • @Widderic
      @Widderic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@09weenic th-cam.com/video/D2eJkJBwxsI/w-d-xo.html

  • @scoobydo446
    @scoobydo446 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m commenting before I watch , I seen this crash on a documentary and a passenger told the flight attendant before take off that the pilot sounds drunk she was so scared the passenger even called a friend to tell her concerns , well that didn’t help obviously

  • @geoffedmonds6507
    @geoffedmonds6507 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    For this to have happened in 08 is just so unnecessary. I mean 2008!! Drunk and inexperienced!? Those poor people:(....
    Two idiots at the controls, and okay he's drunk, but to struggle with something relatively simple like engine thrust asymmetry??
    There have been pilots who had nothing but asymmetrical thrust to turn fly and land their planes and this baffled these guys? Why the hell was the plane in service if it was so detrimental?
    Oh ya its Russia!?!?
    I feel so so sorry to those who lost there lives. I feel if not this plane it would've happened at some point due to the lack of mental capability by either of these fools.

    • @Minimal444
      @Minimal444 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly it is just Russia. And you got drunkards like these responsible for the lives of numerous people in Russia.

  • @teddyjackson1902
    @teddyjackson1902 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It blows my mind that a plane in that condition is allowed to fly.

  • @johncrumpley8702
    @johncrumpley8702 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aeroflot again??? They seem to think they are driving a go-kart. Not the truth. Nice job Allec. I always enjoy your videos.

  • @landychen9968
    @landychen9968 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I can’t believe,this accident makes me mad.😤

  • @lairdcummings9092
    @lairdcummings9092 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    12 hours, bottle to throttle.
    Drunken, surly PIC.
    Incapable, uncertain First Officer.
    Mechanically compromised flight systems.
    Doom was inevitable.

  • @baraxor
    @baraxor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    CRM to Russian pilots means Cocktail Resource Management.

  • @micheleshively8557
    @micheleshively8557 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Horrible crash and preventable too. How sad. Peace to the victims of these two who shouldn't have been flying this plane. Thanks for another great video Allec 💚

  • @mbvoelker8448
    @mbvoelker8448 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    How about recommending the engines be maintained properly to avoid significant thrust imbalance?

    • @b.t.356
      @b.t.356 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      For real though! Thrust imbalance should NEVER be a thing. Honestly hope that preventative maintenance is a takeaway from this.

  • @rickrickard2788
    @rickrickard2788 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "And that concludes our recommendations on how to avoid something like this in the future. Thank you all for coming".
    "Hey, what about a "Don't get wasted & fly, when you have 88+ souls in your hands.. and maybe check both pilots out.. BEFORE they kill everyone, instead of after?"
    "And that concludes our recommendations on how to avoid something like this in the future. Thank you all for coming- except you..".

  • @asteverino8569
    @asteverino8569 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Unfortunate incident.
    Thanks Allec.
    Rest in Peace you all.
    Tragic.

    • @dehoedisc7247
      @dehoedisc7247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      A drunken captain practically insures a nasty flight and unsure landing, if the craft manages to take off. Bastard.

    • @asteverino8569
      @asteverino8569 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dehoedisc7247
      Well, yeah, there's that.

  • @skytrailwarrior8326
    @skytrailwarrior8326 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've seen at least 3 different recreations of this crash, none of them said anything about thrust imbalance or pilots inadequate training. As always, enjoyed your video.

  • @aliefabdurrahman3302
    @aliefabdurrahman3302 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The airline was rebranded as Nordavia in 2011 and Smartavia in 2019.

  • @sbolden123
    @sbolden123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is what we call a recipe for disaster 🚫🤦‍♂️🙏👎😭

  • @clarsach29
    @clarsach29 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This accident typifies Aeroflot in the 90s and early 2000s, they had a SHOCKING record for safety back then and thankfully they made some major changes and massively improved.

    • @adotintheshark4848
      @adotintheshark4848 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      when they started converting from Russian aircraft to "western" aircraft (Boeing and Airbus), they were poorly trained. Poor training also caused the crash of an Airbus when the pilot let his kid sit in the pilot's seat. The plane started to pitch and the pilot didn't know how to correct it. It too ended up crashing and killing everyone.

  • @MightyMezzo
    @MightyMezzo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was awful, mostly because it was so stupid.

  • @judymotto74
    @judymotto74 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Damn Russian vodka 😳 Have a safe weekend allec❤️

  • @aliefabdurrahman3302
    @aliefabdurrahman3302 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Maybe captain Medviedev drink a bottle of Vodka before the flight

  • @Whiskey.T.Foxtrot
    @Whiskey.T.Foxtrot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They need to install an ignition interlock system on planes like they do a car when you've been convicted of a DUI here in 🇨🇦.
    If you are under the influence the plane won't start.
    Kidding of course but it wouldn't be unreasonable to require pilots to blow into a breathalyzer before getting on the plane.

  • @zakariyahalansori9267
    @zakariyahalansori9267 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should add the Air Crash Investigation clip at impact

  • @alexhoe02
    @alexhoe02 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A shame you didn’t include the CVR audio.

  • @Eltoca21
    @Eltoca21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Now I am curious how common it is for multi-engined aircraft to fly with mismatched thrust?

    • @klocknerdeutz
      @klocknerdeutz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I flew the 737 for 8 years and have actually never heard of this.

    • @operationscomputer1478
      @operationscomputer1478 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      no doubt poor maintenance regime.

  • @aperturix
    @aperturix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Russians will learn that flying with them is only one of many things that we won't do again.

  • @cattinkerbell4946
    @cattinkerbell4946 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When you order your flight crew at Wish.

  • @oliverclark8873
    @oliverclark8873 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When you described the final loss of control I was wondering whether the Captain had more previous experience on a Russian type and became confused by the ADI when under pressure (and drunk). This is similar to Tarom flight 371 (apart from not being drunk in this case). However, I don’t think your illustration at 10.30 shows this very well. It seems like the two aircraft are banking in different directions but the yellow arrow suggests they are the same.

  • @markm417
    @markm417 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent as usual Allec and maybe you made this point and I missed it, but another big issue in this Captain's transition to the 737 is that the plane he was used to flying (Tu 134) had 4 crew, so he wouldn't have had the same sort of experience managing thrust imbalances since those jobs were split off the pilot?

    • @AllecJoshuaIbay
      @AllecJoshuaIbay  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for pointing that out. But to be honest I don't have much knowledge on soviet era aircraft.

  • @starvingartist6754
    @starvingartist6754 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Don't let people pilot an airplane that doesn't now how : please don't !

  • @maxtornogood
    @maxtornogood 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Alcohol & inexperience are a deadly mix!

  • @omarimack194
    @omarimack194 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    So many things wrong here, but why weren’t the engines fixed or replaced to cure the asymmetrical thrust either?
    Not even recommended? 🤔

  • @WendyKS93
    @WendyKS93 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This makes a person wonder, are some of these airlines so desperate for pilots that it causes them to dismiss the fact that the pilots do not have the required experience. Are they that desperate to get planes in the air so they can make money that they will place their passengers at great risk and put pilots in the cockpit that have absolutely no business being there? The poor passengers and flight attendants never stood a chance.

  • @bobdobalina838
    @bobdobalina838 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Allec Josh Ebay is back!

  • @shrapnel77
    @shrapnel77 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You never know the actual pilots or plane when you step aboard. Always a frightening thought, when you consider this debacle.

  • @davidjma7226
    @davidjma7226 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Russians drink prodigious amounts of vodka. I was with one once in Croatia he drunk untold amounts of vodka every night.....it was extraordinary to observe!

  • @janicesullivan8942
    @janicesullivan8942 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Those poor passengers.💔

  • @celtc2128
    @celtc2128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    9/14/2008
    Names: Cap'n Родион Медведев, 1st Officer Рустем Аллабердин
    Age: 34 (Родион) 43 (Рустем)
    Flying Time: 5 months (Родион), 1 year (Рустем)
    Status: Nosecrash
    Survivors: 0/94

  • @chudleyflusher7132
    @chudleyflusher7132 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If it’s a Russian, it’s likely drunk.

  • @alphredluneomax93
    @alphredluneomax93 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A Drunk pilot terrible idea

  • @jaimhaas5170
    @jaimhaas5170 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent choice to show that lack of English and training played a huge part here. The lack of communication between pilots and tower also come into play. 25 seconds is a huge amount of time for no imputs by either pilot when clearly the aircraft is becoming unstable.

  • @cpcattin
    @cpcattin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Aviate, Navigate, Communicate, inebriate. Is that the correct order ?

  • @NeumsFor9
    @NeumsFor9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Listen to the CVR. You'll get even angrier.

  • @davesmith5656
    @davesmith5656 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On the diagram in the video, the "eastern style" would be the one on the left of the screen, with the horizontal horizon, and the "western style" would be the one on the right, with the tilted horizon. Western style, the horizon tilts (in the direction opposite the actual aircraft's bank angle); in the eastern style, the horizon is always horizontal (and the aircraft symbol tilts in the direction of the actual aircraft's bank angle). Once you get that the western style horizon tilts, and that the eastern style horizon does not tilt, it's hard to see how a pilot could confuse the two. Someone please correct me if I somehow got this all wrong!

    • @leifvejby8023
      @leifvejby8023 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was thinking the same, and the different styles is most likely a factor too.

  • @paulkolodner2445
    @paulkolodner2445 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Looks like the Russians run their army and their airlines with the same level of competence....

    • @sublimeade
      @sublimeade 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Russians defeated Napoleon, just saying

    • @julosx
      @julosx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sublimeade And then they got defeated by the Japanese in 1905.

    • @TheRetiredPanther
      @TheRetiredPanther 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@julosx And after that, the Russians were victorious over the Japan continental army again three times. in 1938, 1939 and 1945. Is it not enough to demonstrate a capability?

    • @paulcooper8818
      @paulcooper8818 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@TheRetiredPanther Too bad none of that helps when flying a plane

    • @TheRetiredPanther
      @TheRetiredPanther 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulcooper8818 Yes, the lack of pilot training in the post-Communist Russia is a completely different matter than glorious victories of the Red Army.

  • @karenmbbaxter
    @karenmbbaxter ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Aeroflot is Russina so this explains a lot.

  • @maxxlax-16
    @maxxlax-16 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey dude! what flight simulator do you use?

  • @donalfinn4205
    @donalfinn4205 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the music at the end.☘️👍

  • @mancuby6679
    @mancuby6679 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    With those pilots in fhe flight deck of that airplane, only a miracle could saved those poor passengers….😖😖😖😖😖

  • @1rem1Art
    @1rem1Art 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you Allec.

  • @rorychevalier7177
    @rorychevalier7177 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Let me get this straight, first a pilot lets his kid fly the plane, and now we have an impaired pilot…
    Aeroflot, you have officially lost my business, and most likely that of many other people that I intend to fly with in the future

  • @jamesgraham6122
    @jamesgraham6122 ปีที่แล้ว

    Unfortunately, not untypical for Aeroflot and the Russian mentality. I would refer to the depiction of the Artificial Horizon Indicator as 'older style. and modern style rather than east and west. The modern style is common enough now and has been made available through the adoption of 'glass-cockpit' installations where we're looking at what are simply glass screens. The captain would be more familiar with the gyro system having been flying the older Tupolev. It's not the first accident due to the confusion and lack of familiarity with the systems. During my time flying Aid operations in the Congo, it was almost considered normal to smell alcohol on the breath of the eastern block pilots while talking with them on the ramp at any time of the day. A co-pilot I flew with and had previously flown with Russian crews told me that vodka was always available on the flight deck. Having seen the state of their ancient cargo aircraft I could hardly blame them, they appeared to be flying around looking for somewhere to crash.

  • @tommorningstar6373
    @tommorningstar6373 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Way to go Ivan. There's a reason Mom calls it Aeroflop. There's a reason that SEATAC has banned these bums.

  • @paulcooper8818
    @paulcooper8818 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aeroflot Nord motto --- We have competent crew up to 70% of time

  • @DrMemory667
    @DrMemory667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:11 Of course he gets no response, the seats are empty! :-) :-)

  • @htos1av
    @htos1av 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Several factors here, and just one of them alone is fatal. RIP to all.

  • @Kevin_747
    @Kevin_747 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Split throttles are an inconvenience, not a reason to crash an airplane. Alcohol is something I never consumed while on layovers. In my 40 years in the cockpit I owed my passengers my best professional work. Sadly this Capt. didn't feel the same way.

    • @deepthinker999
      @deepthinker999 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was an exception, a deadly exception. Thank You for your service.

  • @rampak1
    @rampak1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a non-pilot I have to say I find the eastern-style display more intuitive than the western.

  • @watchhans
    @watchhans 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If 'Medvedev' is from the same family, like the one in the Kremlin, no wonder that he was promoted captain on the 737 without any serious qualification.
    Just the family name counted and his relation to the Kremlin.

    • @alexmartinengo
      @alexmartinengo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Medvedev is one the most numerous surnames in Russia, like Jackson

  • @scoobydo446
    @scoobydo446 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done video, a like from me

  • @TheHaratashi
    @TheHaratashi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    They also recommended that pilots not get wasted right before flying.

  • @BillSmith-rx9rm
    @BillSmith-rx9rm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The video goes through all of the technical explanations of the engines power and asymmetry, blah blah blah. But it all comes down to the very last statement: the pilot was intoxicated.

  • @maanmohammad8459
    @maanmohammad8459 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The passenger should've raised hell and disembarked.It is unfortunate that most people tend to be intimidated by professionals.

  • @donnix1192
    @donnix1192 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m surprised they were able to find enough remains of anyone for an autopsy.

  • @yaraihan
    @yaraihan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Russia Are Known For Chaotist And This Case Are A Complete Mindlessness About Safety. So "Alleluia"... I Mean "Thanks" For That..

  • @turdferguson9923
    @turdferguson9923 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    In short... Never, under any circumstances, fly Aeroflot... Unless you'd like the extremely high chance of death.

  • @AaronSmith-kr5yf
    @AaronSmith-kr5yf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder who that "Captain" "knew" in Aerofloat management to get the promotion when he clearly wasn't qualified. Not to mention they had to have known he was a drunkard/liability, I'm sure he'd shown up plenty of times for morning flights hung over. Also that first officer not knowing how to fly the plane, not speaking up/kicking the Captain off the plane cause he was drunk, he's IMO just as culpable.

  • @Cthight
    @Cthight 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG the poor friend in the UK that will never get a message again. I wonder how frightend he was until he read the last message of his friend that he is worried about the drunk pilot.

  • @StarPartners
    @StarPartners 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Reports like this are so so sad!! But truth needs to be known ....

  • @nixblick1221
    @nixblick1221 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't understand the right part of the picture at 10:11. If the right wing is pointing to the ground and the left wing is pointing to the sky, then the plane is flying to the right and not to the left. But according to the yellow arrow it is flying to the left???

  • @tvideo1189
    @tvideo1189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Drunk Russian low-time pilot that got his ticket because of some relative in the Party couldn't POSSIBLY be the case, right???

  • @michaellusk2856
    @michaellusk2856 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Old joke from the 70's...want somebody gone...pay for a free trip on Aeroflot...cheaper than a hit man. Almost as certain. Times don't change.

  • @larrydavid6852
    @larrydavid6852 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Things are bound to be much safer now that the gangster state is operating a fleet of stolen aircraft with limited access to parts.

  • @Auta5tic
    @Auta5tic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wasn’t the airline Aeroflot Nord?

    • @AllecJoshuaIbay
      @AllecJoshuaIbay  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes it was.

    • @Auta5tic
      @Auta5tic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was there no Aeroflot Nord livery available?

  • @arinerm1331
    @arinerm1331 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    My experience with Russian pilots is that they have the same delusions of invincibility that the average adolescent or teenage boy has. "That's not a problem, I can overcome it" is a really common attitude.

    • @michaeldunham3385
      @michaeldunham3385 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I seriously doubt you've had any experience

    • @arinerm1331
      @arinerm1331 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaeldunham3385 Doubt as you like. Even if I recounted in detail my experience with Russian pilots, you could choose not to believe. That's the least of my reasons for not caring what you do or do not believe.

    • @michaeldunham3385
      @michaeldunham3385 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@arinerm1331 I've flown both internationally and domestically on Russian airlines over a period of 10 years, they are as professional as any major western airline....... comments such as yours don't match reality so I'll always be suspicious when I see them

    • @zskrubz
      @zskrubz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      In mother Russia, motherland aint raise no bitches. They are invincible

    • @deseremere
      @deseremere 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaeldunham3385 You are sad that you didn't fly Aeroflot Flight 821? Hold on, comerad, Avtovaz is in charge of all Boeing and Airbus spare parts for Russian planes since 2022, be patient and your day will come

  • @camilo66995
    @camilo66995 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow...... It shoud be named aeroPlop.....

  • @ronschilreff3414
    @ronschilreff3414 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Drunken Pilot? Correct way to say it is “Drunk Pilot” Drunken lol

  • @cindysavage265
    @cindysavage265 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Truly horrific. I feel for that poor Brit, she should have gotten off the plane...

  • @cycleSCUBA
    @cycleSCUBA 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    'Aeroflot' always has always given me bad vibes whenever i hear the word.

  • @MachineHeadDissent
    @MachineHeadDissent 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If that was the crash site photo how did they find enough of the captain to test his blood alcohol level… I see only tiny pieces no bodies….