POLARIS INDY 650 TRIPLE ENGINE BUILD #1 oiling mods
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- I'm going to do a complete build on a 650 Red Head engine. I will try and cover everything you will need to know. Its a lot to cover
my email is Polaris.trashcan@gmail.com - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
I know I’m a little late to the party but I really appreciate that you share your hard earned knowledge ! Especially that oiling mod ! That chamfering has to make such a difference rather than that sharp edge ! Just makes sense. Take care Todd 🍺🍺
Thanks and never too late 😁
Love the honing trick in the parts washer! Never seen it done before going to try it one day for sure! Great build and detailed tips. Also oil mod seems like a great idea! Great video Todd! 😊
Thanks so much. The parts washer just makes so much sense to me. 🤷
May you have clean and happy mineral spirits. 😆
Nice clean build for sure.
That has to be the most worn out dingle ball hone I have ever seen. That's awesome.
It gets lots of use around here 😁
I'll say
I meant that as a badge of honor.
Thanks so much for sharing your experience and knowledge
Had 88 650 ported and polished decker pipes
Turned it 9200 rpms for 7500 miles never had a problem
I set the oil pump richer than the stock marks
With the correct tune they just go and go
This is going to be a fantastic series there Todd. I don't have a 650, yet. Shhh, don't tell the wife. 😂
😂😂 I know how it is.
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I had a 650 with SLP pipes, then 95 XLT 600 no pipes. I kept blowing the motor on XLT, but my 650 was still going. Eventually i went with the two cylinder lyberty motors. those 650 are pretty reliable in my opinion. the coolant bolts above manifold would strip out here and there. one time my pto pipe shifted and melted the coolant hose, glad i begin smelling the hose melt under heat tape foil.
They go and go
The beard is looking epic. Santa Polaris from the great white north.
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Great video, appreciate you showing all the hard work that goes into a proper rebuild. Your passion is a joy to watch.
Thanks
I wish these types of videos were around when i had my 650 indy. Would have saved me so much money and time. Nice job Todd! Cant wait for the next one! 🍻
More to come!
I always let every engine warm up,always
Great advice
Simple with purpose wins the day! Great work as always Todd , Cheers!
Thanks Cheers
Great video Todd! One of my favourite motors!!! Really looking forward to this engine build series 👍
Keep up the good work!
Cheers 🍻
Thanks and with your donations I hope it's running soon. 🍻😁
Had a 89 500. First Polaris. Crank bearing failure at 2800. I think. That has always been a Polaris problem. Oil journal's are to small thus failure. My opinion. Your doing it right. Last much longer. Once again being a faithful Polaris guy .
Hopefully it helps
Fuji 500 motors were pretty reliable, Imagine if Polaris had Fuji produce the motors today. No recalls, you'd think.
Love this! Great detail in this video. God I love sled videos.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for video. I am buying a nice 650 with blow engine. I Am going to build it right and then I’ll know what I got.
Absolutely I do the same thing
RXL was a good sled left stock but piped idk of one that ever ran right. Lot blew up if not maybe all of them. My father and i use to build 650’s bran new. Triple pipes porting milled heads. Some we just piped took a lot of knowledge in jetting abd clutching to make them run right. Never new of anyone that counted on a dealer that was happy after. Most the time blow up idk how many times i saw it happen. The pipe manufacturers jetting specs never right always lean sometimes really lean. So we blew a few up in the beginning learned to jet pig rich work ur way down. Found out with shitty clutching ur jetting will never be right. Trial and error always the best and patience don’t except perfect results the first time putting a mod sled together. I remember jetting being 2-5 sizes bigger than pipe manufacturers recommendations. Our clutching was never what they recommended either maybe some of it but never all.
Like watching u work on the old triple Polaris’s what i grew up on. Snowmobiling was a different world back then lol!!
I have a feeling I could learn an awful lot from you. After porting one of my 650s with pipes and heads recut running a little bit of 110 with 93 I'm at one jet size over stock. Doesn't make sense but that's what the engine likes
@@toddclyne3493 could be the race fuel. Race fuel will make a engine run rich with pump fuel jetting. But man ya 1 size above stock is surprising to me to. Like u said though if its what engine wants then run it. Clutching has a lot to do with jetting maybe a steeper cut helix say make a little more load might take more fuel to run that helix. Same with weights to heavy more fuel the engine might need. Maybe ur clutching is so good ur able to run with less fuel.
But usually the more power a engine makes takes more fuel. More air equals more fuel but like I mentioned before trial a and error is the only way to really tune anything. Iv been surprised many times one thing might work on one machine but suck on another.
@@joshgessinger4509 yep a suggested tune is only that. Just a starting point
Can't wait for the next video
Coming soon
The triple king 👑 love the video man. working on my RXL still taking a little longer but having fun with my son doing it
Great things take time. Good luck
Hell yea, keep up the great work buddy 👍
Thanks! Will do!
Great work man 😊
Thanks 😁
Todd, just looking at my 01 587 case and you could champher the oil hole on the bearing side of upper case towards the PTO and MAG side of hole underneath to let oil get to outer side of bearing much better.
Plus like you did, champher top side of hole too.
Pto end one could drill down further in the square to get rid of TROUGH and then blend that towards left side of case ( looking at it from carb side of case ) to channel oil to bearing.
My case has the oil line spicket already from factory.
Also there is no reason you can't use a Bridgeport to cut a 570 to fit extended cylinder 650 cylinders. I believe ( not having one to measure) you would only be taking off .015 to say .020 per side( total .040 " ) and there certainly is enough meat to do that with.
Just a thought for you as I sit here in 40 deg Florida weather. Lol.
Have 3 P's in my garage down here. Never thought I'd stay so long. 31 years !
That's 29 years too long lol.
I've got a 91 500 indy almost pristine ( 3600 miles on her as I remember), 99 XC SP 700 ( Johnny Cash special ) littering! And a 2003 Edge with a XCR 800, Fusion skid Walkers and Fox dual shocks up front from an 01 440 .
Wish I were up there with the tripples and tripple tripples.
Jonsey
Great comment and sounds like you have the same ideas in mind on improving the oiling. I'll give that xcr 800 a home if it needs one 😁
Great video cant wait to see how this 650 turns out. Hopefully we can get some rideable snow soon cuz this sucks
Sucks bad
Good stuff Todd.
Thanks
Great video
Thanks
🔥you sure do good work.. I like those lil oil updates, sure going to help that pto side eh. 16”
Snow up here in north Bay Area, groomer made a pass on Sunday, how snow out your way 🔥👊🔥🔨🏍⚠️⚙️
No snow at all
@@toddclyne3493 no way, usually you guyz have snow b4 us
@@jeremymullen5378 really bad year
Thank you Todd on this
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Great video!
Thanks
Lol same for me im building a 91 indy 650. I pulled apart I think it was 6 motors looking for a good crank.
They are such a pain in the ass to pull apart 😂
I had an 88 650 and put 12,000 miles on it. Never any problems. It still had 120 lbs in each cylinder. Also , didn’t the newer cylinders have larger transfer ports ? I always checked oil pump settings. Even brand new sleds. And , yes I found some on the lean side.
I believe it. Yes the 02 and up had better porting. I just didn't get into that yet. So much to cover 😁
I have a new 83 600 OE piston and ring if anybody needs it.
Great info.
Thanks
i got 3 of them motor and my argienal crank whent in it and i bout another one and found out it had a hair line crack in it and bout another all togather and running and there an awsome motor been throught a lot of over the years but tuff tho to me if treated right just hard to find over here in canada iam like the only one that i know of that has one and i have talked to alot of people about it and they never siad they had one
Very popular here in the states
Good video. I was looking at my shop my solvent is very flammable. A drill with Sparks I don't think that be good
I'm a risk taker 😁
Have you thought about trying to find some old SLP DZ? And or RZ parts to put onto one of those for a late 80s/early 90s lake/trail mod? Resto runner
My eyes are always looking
I just finished a rebuild on my 96 RXL 650
Nice
Another good video Todd..you guys getting snow ❄ yet
Nothing 😭
Right...
A+ as always. Gotta ask, what cleaning solvent did you buy for your parts cleaner?
Power blaster from O'Reilly's
Great video but It’s not a Todd Clyne video without a beer crack.
Good point!
Would you remove the cylinder studs to clean up the bottoms end with the sandpaper as well ? As always great videos ❤
Like I said. I think it's risky trying to get them out without breaking them. I have tried to remove some to sell them and it's hit or miss if they come out.
Great video,, what grit was the sandpaper you put on the bench to clean up the heads? I'll be building my 90 650 engine soon
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Nice one Todd! Are the Indy 650 and RXL engines different other than carb vs EFI?
In 90 91 and 92 carb or EFI the engine was the same.
Some things are designed to fail it creates a parts market.
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@toddclyne where to get new complete crank for xlt597cc triple single exhaust motors
Tom Gara
Thank you sir
I am having problems pulling the flywheel off my 650. I have a Kimpex puller. I will not come off. It will brake the puller before it even moves. Wondering what I may be doing wrong.
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Whats the best bore size to go with if you were to bore out a 650 indy 2 sizees or 3 over ??
Just enough to clean it up. Boring does not increase hp. So save your bores encase you need to again
Do you chamfer the bearings to try and match the block? I don't even know what the bearings look like, just a thought.
You can't do that. Good idea though
Is that 650 made by Fuji or who? What do they say about mods to case oil passages? My bro was an assy line inspector in Roseau and I think he had a big twin 700 or 800. He had no problems that I know of but did say the triples had some. Like center carb having no main jets in some .
Yes the 650 is a fuji
How to sync the carbs and set idle
Good idea
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