The recent buff to how many units the Varangian Guards can hit with their axes has proven nice as well as the reduction to their leadership. They are very tricky to use and you are correct, the button mashing makes hero play extremely difficult. Sad as they are my favorite melee unit.
Imperial javelineers are the most complicated in my opinion. 3 to 5 abilities to manage (depending on doctrine and vet lines), a misleading range indicator, complicated aim, need heavy micro, they're a hybrid melee/ranged unit, and to top it all off you have ammo management issues to worry about.
Maidens if played to the max can be comlicated. I know lazy people or bad players just smash them on cover commander then swap to sword but you have 2 weapon modes, 2 skills each and obviously you have to know that you don't have cover commander in sword mode so you want to charge in use 2 then swap to spear once your charge and 2 have done their damage, back to cover commander, back to sword. Or if cav is coming, press 3, swap to spear, press 1 for guardian then back to cover commander. I know they can be played easily with just sword mode and cover commander and don't do anything else with them, but playing them to the amx can be complicated.
It would definitely help. Personally I would like there 3 ability to have a 20-25 sec cooldown and the sleepy mode to be gone. Then I think they would have a place
@@Plumsion I agree. The sleepy mode makes no sense because its cons outweigh the pros of the buff. 15 seconds of buff vs like what, 40 seconds debuff or whatever it is, that makes no sense. I would also like if the devs also gave them some kind of passive effect where they have a chance of making a "heavy blow" while using regular attacks which increases their damage and does a small stun on the target hit, because it makes no sense that these big swords can't even make an enemy flinch under impact.
@@sharkboyzCTback then the debuff was nice for balancing. No one could know that later they would bring units that can spam their 2 and always perform well... I still like them, you gotta use them as real shock trooo and pull them out after like 10 seconds burst. Also i always go charge into 2 into 3 and then either the enemy units melt or i pull out
To add to the complication of the bannerguard: If the guy holding the banner gets killed, you lose the ability to set it down. Basicly turning them in a below average Unit by just one single loss.
forgot to mention the 50% armor bonus to everyone inside the circle for 15(!) seconds while the banner is down (bannerguard unit). for me, the charge refresh for all units that can charge (that are inside de circle) is a big deal somewhat.
instead of making so much new stuff they could rework the old ones and balance them, i want to play huskarls and namkhams etc.. but its just not worth it and that sucks
The recent buff to how many units the Varangian Guards can hit with their axes has proven nice as well as the reduction to their leadership. They are very tricky to use and you are correct, the button mashing makes hero play extremely difficult. Sad as they are my favorite melee unit.
Imperial javelineers are the most complicated in my opinion. 3 to 5 abilities to manage (depending on doctrine and vet lines), a misleading range indicator, complicated aim, need heavy micro, they're a hybrid melee/ranged unit, and to top it all off you have ammo management issues to worry about.
I did think of them but wanted to go a bit away from the norm. Maybe list two 👀
@@Plumsion fair enough, they're a bit of an obvious choice lol
Maidens if played to the max can be comlicated. I know lazy people or bad players just smash them on cover commander then swap to sword but you have 2 weapon modes, 2 skills each and obviously you have to know that you don't have cover commander in sword mode so you want to charge in use 2 then swap to spear once your charge and 2 have done their damage, back to cover commander, back to sword. Or if cav is coming, press 3, swap to spear, press 1 for guardian then back to cover commander. I know they can be played easily with just sword mode and cover commander and don't do anything else with them, but playing them to the amx can be complicated.
I remember seeing Banner Guards on the field twice since they were introduced. I never leveled mine up 😂
I killed some yesterday. Given it was the unit roulette mode but still...
Claymores r good but u gotta use the charge to get out. Banner guards a got when they came out and I still can't figure out the best way to use them.
Do you think if they made the greatsword unit have minor cc immunity whilst their ability is up for the duration offset their “worse onimusha” status?
It would definitely help. Personally I would like there 3 ability to have a 20-25 sec cooldown and the sleepy mode to be gone. Then I think they would have a place
@@Plumsion I agree. The sleepy mode makes no sense because its cons outweigh the pros of the buff. 15 seconds of buff vs like what, 40 seconds debuff or whatever it is, that makes no sense. I would also like if the devs also gave them some kind of passive effect where they have a chance of making a "heavy blow" while using regular attacks which increases their damage and does a small stun on the target hit, because it makes no sense that these big swords can't even make an enemy flinch under impact.
@@sharkboyzCTback then the debuff was nice for balancing. No one could know that later they would bring units that can spam their 2 and always perform well... I still like them, you gotta use them as real shock trooo and pull them out after like 10 seconds burst. Also i always go charge into 2 into 3 and then either the enemy units melt or i pull out
I would agree with the complication with some units
To add to the complication of the bannerguard: If the guy holding the banner gets killed, you lose the ability to set it down. Basicly turning them in a below average Unit by just one single loss.
forgot to mention the 50% armor bonus to everyone inside the circle for 15(!) seconds while the banner is down (bannerguard unit). for me, the charge refresh for all units that can charge (that are inside de circle) is a big deal somewhat.
Alright, lets get that video going about what the next season hints they've given mean!
its up :D
I was expecting Azaps to make the list, however it think they would have been 5 or 6.
i feel like azaps are simply bad, their "counter" doesn't do shit, their on watch is usefull but they are simply too squishy.
The only unit that i never understand and hard to learn is Banner guard.
instead of making so much new stuff they could rework the old ones and balance them, i want to play huskarls and namkhams etc.. but its just not worth it and that sucks
I agree with you dude, claymores are now just bad onmusha
I think fortes are pretty complicated too. You have to play them pretty well for them to work
You have 1 button so not at all as units on this list
@@dzexii It's not complicated in the way of buttons. You have to place your unit well for them to work.
I love banner guards!
Shieldmaidens too are complicated
nah, they too OP on braindead mode.
Hasassin?
Yeah, they could be on here
First
bro can i have your account i can not be bothered to grind unit xp anymore
100% more xp this weekend