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Just once, when they're wearing blindfolds, I'd like someone to hand them a live otter each instead of a guitar. Just for the hell of it.
Hahahaha yes!!!
Ha! I see your otter and raise you a couple rabbits.
I see your rabbit and raise you a pair of raccoons
Is "live otter" a euphemism for Pete pulling out his junk and handing it to them while blindfolded. Because I'm not so sure he wouldn't just for the lolz.
Dave Sansom or the same guitar right back 😂
I've gotta say Chappers' moose knuckle really is something to behold
TRIGERED POTATO that's hilarious. I've not heard that before
Moose knuckle, what is that? a picking style?
Hahaha oh my
I love the fact that a guy who owns and runs the best guitar shop in the country and who personally owns tens of thousands of pounds worth of Gibsons, USA Fenders, and collectable tube amps will often get less of these right than if you just flipped a coin at random, AND has no problem admitting it! Guitar players need to take themselves a hell of a lot less seriously and be honest with themselves that most of these cork-sniffing opinions (tube is always better than digital etc.) are just born of bandwagon insecurity, outdated info, and memes. It's an amazing time to be a musician in terms of affordable gear and technological advances, the quality gap between a £400 guitar/amp and one that costs £4000 is getting smaller and smaller.
In fairness he actually rarely failed the blindfold challenges. He got it right there
I think statistically he doesn't fail as much as he believes he does.
tens of thousands of pounds of guitars? Mate he doesn't even have that many guitars, check his house tour, or cribz whatever it was called. I'm sure he got a couple more like the prs Paul gave him, but still.
ScottishCunt ScottishCunt the dude has an R8 Les Paul, a custom PRS, and a 70s Martin. That's literally £10,000 right there.
well digital is pretty sick too sooooo xP
Love the editing. Also, Rabea made me crack up!
Great to see those guitars being played. I own a black and gold Ltd ES-1000 guitar with active EMGs and is one of the most beautiful and most versatile guitars I know of. Really surprised me when I played it in the shop! Went to buy a Les Paul or a Telecaster, played it while waiting for the guy to get one out of the warehouse and instantly fell in love with it! Seriously underrated! The mother of pearl on it is stunning too!
This was a great "EYE OPENER" for me. this makes so much sense, especially that explanation at the end pointing out the differences. this is one of the best videos y'all have ever done (for my edification at least) thanks
I have a Schecter Damien-6 with passive EMG's and a Damien eliteFR with active EMG's. I didn't really know what I was getting when I got the elite because it was a great price and I needed a whammy metal guitar, but I bought the Damien-6 because it was so sweet through every tube amp I plugged it into, especially fenders(but also through the egnator tweaker vox and marshall tone stacks). that string-thru Damien-6 with the passive emg's is my favorite sounding guitar (second is my LP).
the active has lots of drive and not so much sweetness and it is great for metal. the Damien-6 is superior for cleans...I can't tell much difference when going through pedals because now it is all active so to speak.
WTF !! Magic. Nice edition, keep it like that
good job rabea! nice deception. :D
At the start rob is sitting like a grand tea drinking Buddha I love it
Do a full review of the EC-1000 Piezo!!!! Beauty instrument there.
Active is better . ...and I'm a blues rock player . If ya want even more tones , pull out that 81 and put an 85 x in the bridge . not to mention Totally quiet ,no noise .... well done Rob .
Hey guys, I'd love to see a shootout of guitar models with piezo systems. les, epiphone, the new esp from this video, and schecter makes one too.
robs ears are amazing. very impressed
Damn Rob, nice pants! :D
Just touching the pickup covers will tell you which one is which without even playing a single note. Rob had his fingers resting on the bridge pickup the whole time.
Rabea that was so cruel to the good ol captain
should have tried Duncans as well as their blackouts are great
What amp was Rob playing through? Cause it sounded reeeeally good.
I prefer Duncan nazgul and sentinent to emg 81 85
Same, EMG's make the worst sounding actives imo
Naz and sent are both passive 😅
Yesssss
I agree with Rob. Both types of pickups are great for their own respective reasons. Active pickups certainly didn't stop Metallica from becoming one of the biggest bands in the world.
emg's arent bad "at all" but prefer passive, bit more dynamic in the lead stuff. but a good guitar wont nake a whole lotta diffrence i think.
Will you guys be reviewing the new GT-40 Fender modeling Amp?
Oh. I missed it. thanks
Chappers vs Captain 100% !!!
Too obvious. Should have used Fishman Fluence Classic set (or EMG 55, 57/66, or X-series) against this JB/59.
I prefer not having to depend on a battery for a guitar.
Rob is a monster. Not only did he correctly guess the right type of pickup with a few strums, he even guessed the right guitar company.
Plus the bottom horn is a tell tale sign no other has a les paul with a horn
Yep
Plus he could feel the surface of the pickup and the thin U neck that esp are famous for
I'd ask y'all to do a Butane VS Propane challenge, but it'd be too lopsided since propane is by far superior in every single way. I'll tell you what.
Hank Hill No butane is superior to propane on some matters.It boils on a higher temperature,has more carbon and more hidrogene.
Charcoal is much better. Much more flavorful grilled meats than propane.
*hwat
Sorry Hank, but well all know that Butane is superior to, and more efficient than Propane.
butane and propane are peasant stuffs. i used methane from shit and it explodes hard :)) besides methane smells good :P
Personally, I can't wait for the Captains breakdown where he just ends up playing active 7 strings and a Kempers. 😉
Adam Hammond comment of the week goes to you 😂
hardcore djent captain
2:55 _This just sounds like a guitar to me._
-Captian 2017
I loved this bit, I loved the Captain’s general stress that he literally doesn’t have a clue!
You guys should do a blindfold test for pedals, something like stomp box vs multi effects, or cheap vs dear
I agree with this sweaty mark
Vince McMahon likes big Texan bullies good idea
#FireJBL
This is the last place I'd expect to see this, but I'm totally okay with it.
the end is nigh the end is nigh- fuckin run away the end is nigh!!!
guess we just found out where the venn diagram of king ross fans and captain n' chappers fans overlaps!
I really don't think people give Rob NEARLY enough credit or praise for how talented he is when it comes to quickly & accurately identifying such a vast array of tones & brands of gear
Vaseline
Andertons Music Co very deep
I love when they start to talk louder... cause they can't see eachother. lmao
William Kevern "I CAN'T HEAR YOU! IT'S TOO DARK IN HERE!"
Jesus, Rory, this clown honking sound when they grab their guitars... This is brilliant.
What is the thing with Rory? I do not get this at all. Could please somebody explain? Thanks :]
@@butcherneck It's the name of the guy who edits the videos and adds all the weird shit in haha
Chappers, your shorts are a little too tight for my liking.
Lil bit of moose knucklage never hurt anyone
Noah G "Whittaker, take off my bra. Whittaker, take off my panties. And dont ever let me catch you wearing them again!"
Just tight enough for my liking ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Moose Knucklage new band name, I call it!
Noah G compressor all the way on those shorts lol
I love this channel so much
JasonX401 Thanks mate - thanks for your support :-)
So basically active pickups on a clean tone sound like passive pickups with a compressor pedal.
They react similar, but where as the preamps in active Pickups are more often then not designed to stay neutral/not change the tone, compressors tend to colour the sound quite a bit.
Basically yes. It's the same as having a clean boost pedal, it's just built inside the guitar. Your signal hits the amp's input harder so there's less headroom resulting in a more compressed sound.
More or less, yes.
Pretty much. A compressor pedal with a volume boost or EQ boost.
active, passive, plug me in....what's going on here???
I think you missed the point. ^^
Aaron Also EMGs don't need grounding. And they adjust the output on their own so basically: Longer cable = Electric resistance
More resistance = Less of the output gets to the amp
makes sense right? I'm bad at explaining
(͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Theres also a box of vaseline left of Rob...
maxxdblade lmao now I have to watch it again
Lee's being baffled by the knobs is priceless
when he says he's switching there guitars he should just pretend to switch them and just give them back the same guitars and see if they change their answers LOL
he did at the end there
9:35 (it wasn't them holding it themselves but they would have been able to tell it was the same guitar)
What a great video! The difference really is apparent, once Rob breaks down what he's listening for.
I just can't stand worrying about the damn batteries.
Yeah, sometimes you just lose track of 2 years.
Having to solder on a new battery clip because the old one got eaten by the Green Death is a good reminder.
One less hassle to worry about. Sure it may take two years for a battery to die as some folks said. Then again, it may take two weeks or if you forget to unplug your guitar, no sound for you! But either way the less to go wrong the better imo.
Jackie I
Jackie and I think it makes it feel more artificial and fake which ruins the concept of electric guitar for me.
LOL Poor Captain with the volume controls! I just got my first E-II Eclipse last week and spent the first five minutes complaining of the same thing! Why isn't the neck p'up volume the top knob and bridge middle! Haha!
Reason in that case: Players perspective. Main pickup for many there is the bridge, so ideally thats the closest knob. But yeah traditionally it's the other way around, I even think they do it the ''right'' way when its 2 Vol. Also, if you get the Eclipse I that is more traditional (4 knobs in the right config, and more traditional horn) then it's like a regular Les Paul
Interesting on the four knob Eclipse! Having played it now for a week I totally get it and it's second nature now, but the first five minutes were pure confusion :)
Oh wait, I've just googled it, is the middle a master volume? Shouldn't it be just for the neck/bridge?
The top is the bridge volume, middle is neck volume and the bottom is a master tone.
I have that on my GH600 as well and i read that it is for "Rolling" of the volume on the bridge pickup
Why is it that the older Rob gets, the cooler he becomes? I don't know how it is possible, he's like a fine wine or something!
Ha ha thanks man, I have not yet reached my final form ;-)
Fives Alives even tighter shorts?
Fives Alives it's the touch of grey in his beard, methinks. i'm into it!
I was ignorant of "active or passive" till this week when I bought a Epiphone SG G-400 (with after market EMG 81s)cheaply after the guy admitted it seemed to have electronic probs. New strings and 9V battery and it sounds great. And I now know about Active and Passive - previous owner obviously didn't.
Ya know, I like both styles but I think I'd rather have passive pickups just because of the battery requirement. I don't really trust myself to remember that.
If that's your holdup....it has no merit. The batteries last forever. Even a full time musician can get a year no problem with one guitar with 2 humbuckers. I can personally attest to this, as my 93 ESP has a pair of 81s. The ONLY thing that's different is you have to unplug the guitar when its not in use. When I change batteries (RARELY) I check the old one on my tongue and its still strong. Every time. If you love the active tones, don't let the battery hold u back. Cheerio.
David Cantrell yes, I love my emg 60/81 combo.
David Cantrell, listen to Rick, he's spot on.
Rick Feith I got an ESP with the EMG 81/85 combo, and I got no problem with the battery. If it goes out, you know immediately when you go to try and play it.
Shadowsoken,you should try reversing your EMG pickups,put the 85 in the bridge position and 81 in the neck position,i did this with my epiphone SG and it sounds better to me,the 85 in the bridge gives a better low end but still has good clarity and the 81 in the neck is less muddy sounding and great for OD crunch and blues tones. If you heard of Andy James this is how he has his EMG pickups positioned.
MOOOORE BLINDFOLD!!!
It would have been interesting to try different EMG pickups, such as the 57/66 or EMG-X. Both of these have a greater dynamic range, and act a little more passive-y.
I think it also would have been interesting to use the Nazgul/Sentient set or a similar high output passive set to see if that would affect their ability to distinguish between them.
Completely sincere question here, what's the point of the extra hassle of a battery if your actives are going to sound passive anyway?
f u n k j u n k . n e t they'd have a few tonal qualities like passives. it'd still be an active and sound like such. imo actives sound more digital/sterile than passives, but they are great in lots of ways so bridging that gap isn't the worst idea
Rasputin's Beard aren't the 57/66 passive pickups?
Nope. They're actives, as well as the recent Retro Active series, the 55 & 77.
Did Rob get dressed with the blindfold on ?
Blind Tubescreamer test. Spot the real tubescreamer. There are plenty of pedals do make this one interesting.
holy shit, bea looks great. keep it up brother
Just needs to lose the goofy hair now like rob did
Charles Wood but... 99% of his tone comes from his fro. #respectthefrobro
"Goofy hair?" and do what, get the tired middle-aged man look? Bea's hair is great and I hope he goes to his grave with it. And for the record, Rob's locks were way better too.
@@Deathshuckno
Also helps that rob was an esp artist maybe?
glyn humphreys Ha ha yep
Rob Chapman aren't you a seymour duncan artist now? So you've covered the spectrum
rob has magic ears hope they are insured
Just want to say that you guys are great. I'm over here serving my country (US) in Afghanistan. I'm so glad that I have Internet to watch your videos! I recently removed Ibanez emg passives (RG) for emg 81/85s. To me, the sound was greatly different (better). Thanks for your review.
David Jones thanks for all you do for this country 🎸🎸🎸🎸
I think you might have been serving for Isreal
Active v passive is too easy. I'd like to see a blind test of hide v modern glued lp's, heavy relic v non-relic strats, real v clone paf's. These are all things that some folks claim affect tone, but there is little or no data published to support the claims.
Nathan Wilkins great thought! I'd like to hear r see that one!
It is man some say quite noticeable, there's a tiny preamp/boost circuit there involved.
Can you do one of humbucker cover vs no cover?
Blindfold challenge with different acoustic body sizess!! I'd love it
Would probably be the most obvious thing.
Especially if they end up getting one of those really thin ones. - I hate when artists play that live.
Michael Angelo H. If they play the guitars it would be pointless, yeah haha but I mean, rabbea or pete could, I don't know... Maybe compare a d-45 to a hummingbird, or something like that, I don't know, it's just an idea... If you put a parlour and then a jumbo it'd be pretty obvius yeah...
Rob, it would be interesting to know if you watch all your videos back when they go up on TH-cam?
Music Ghost Yes I proof watch each video :-)
if you put a compressor in front of the blue one would sound really similar to the black one.
IDK how the hell you get so much sustain. I can never get any guitar to sustain into feedback like that.
Volume ;)
Interesting the active pickup harmonic was an octave higher than the passive.
Austin Mann might have to test this
This is a challenge? Either I have exceptional hearing or it's so obvious as to be a non issue at least between these 2 guitars. I'm not an EMG hater, but I prefer passives.
The active/passive is just a typical guitar snobbery thing. Yes there's differences and you have the right to prefer one, but actually hating one is ridiculous. Only now Fishmans have got big do people thing "actually maybe I don't hate actives." People are just anti-emg, despite hearing them on so many of their favourite songs and loving the tones.
got an a level maths exam tommorow why am i watching this
Asim Chowdhury you did it because you needed to relax your brain a little bit, therefore making it easier to retain knowledge you were trying to cram in there. Hope the test went well.
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how did you do
Should have included a better range of active and passive pickups - EMG and other brands also make active single-coils, P-90s and other humbuckers. Hot humbuckers tend to sound rather same-y at times, especially under high gain.
A very passive agressive approach by Lee.
Sorry.
I had my eyes open but it was easy to tell that the emgs we're emgs and the same with passive
ya, they look totally diffrent. ez
I can hear the difference, but there's no way I'd be able to tell which is which without prior knowledge of what they sound like.
#NotNotificationSquad
Love you guys so much, the edit is good, Bea was super fun part of it, Lee and Rob are being themselves which I really enjoyed! Y'all like family to me :D
should have used the EMG 57\66 instead of the old ass 81. Probably easier to tell
Rob you're a genius! Your experience with guitars and pickups is amazing :D
Lol and 2 years later he's been shamed by Riffcity and exposed on TH-cam, then fired by Andertons. Hilarious.
"Shitty design."
Well there ya have it, folks. That's probably the most honesty you will ever hear out of the Captain
10:08 The best moment of the internet
I don't really care much for the argument about active pickups being cold and sterile, no dynamics, yadda yadda. I think they can sound just as good as anything else in the right context, depending on how the set is spec'd out. I just don't like active pickups because I don't like having to deal with batteries in my guitar. 😝
Love this channel, it never fails to make me happy. Life is full of stress and trouble, your vids seem to make it better. :) Thanks!
Rob: hey Rabea, when you give us the guitars, give me the active and give Lee the passive, ok, that way I can win, I can shout active active active before Lee's even plugged his in and I can win and look great... ok, mate?
Rabea: but that wouldn't be a fair test, it
Rob: I'll give you £10
Rabea: £10?
Rob: and longer solo spots at gigs.
Rabea: £10? and longer solo spots at gigs?
Rob: and I've got a snickers in my pocket, oh, it's a bit melted and squished... here it's yours. Deal?
I ... HAAAAATE ... BATTERIES ...
I always wind up forgetting them inside any of my electric devices, until I finally check to find out it all has turned into an ACID sauce with resistors and capacitors as bits of cooked vegetables.
The day they come up with the great idea of finally standardizing 4 connectors cables to feed active guitars with 9V (or any other voltage) from the pedalboard or the amp ... then I'll probably give another try at active guitars.
They definitely sound different. The EMGs seem to have less upper harmonic content, in the clean setting. Less high frequency chime.
I have a set of single coil EMGs in my Parker Fly guitar. They are quiet as a mouse noise/hum wise, but they lack that top end ring/quack I get with passive single coils on my strat.
I'm thinking I might swap the EMGs out for a set of Z-Core™ pickups.
I wan't one of my strat style guitars to have noiseless single coils in it, and I think the Z-Core™ ZVH5 would give me the best of both worlds. Sparkle ,without the noise.
Chappers and The Captain: "Live Without Your Eyes"
Sound Author Ha ha that could be a thing!!
This video is freaking funny. It is overly obvious the difference between guitars. The dude with the green shirt he knows what he's talking about. I have EMGs and all my guitars. 81 and 85
New video. Tell them it's active vs passive and then keep handing them the same guitar repeatedly
Should rename these videos to: "goggle guess" (The double G)
Active pickups for me. I always told myself I'd never use active pickups ever. I owned a Rickenbacker 4001 for 5 years and I needed a 5 string bass for the projects I was doing. I was skeptical about the active EMGs. Needless to say the Rickenbacker didn't get used much at all after that and I eventually sold it. A $650 ESP LTD F-415FM with EMG 40DC pickups replaced a $1800 Rickenbacker 4001. Let that sink in...
Actives= no even a noise 😍
The active Pickups have a lower output impedance and therefore they sound, in a way, like a pair of passive pickups with a buffer behind!
All you have to do is dig in and you'll hear the difference immediately XD
The EMGs are SO much more "immediate" in terms of attack. I loved that about them, but they just don't give you as many sound options as a typical four-conductor pickup.
If that were actually true..there would be no way that so many prominent guitar players choose them over passives. I get that there is a difference, but that is more about the selection of the active pickup and settings on it, the give away I think rob was actually listening for was the difference in output volume..to me that was the only glaring difference.
So instead of the usual coffee, you guys had lots of beer around, and a small jar of Vaseline next to Rob... What kind of party are you guys planning for after the shoot?
i feel that the eq/voicing rather than the "activeness" of the pickups will give it away, emg 81 is has just such a distinctive "emgness" to it
active sound compressed. on clean, the spank is subdued. I've a set on Epi 7str. used for djent stuff- the EMGs clean up the chaos. Rob's spot on- each has an application.
woofer devlin ich a
And here, ladies and gentlemen, at 7:03 we see the passive primate begin to wait for the more aggressive ape to stop his demonstration of dominance so the more agreeable chimpanzee can return to what he was originally trying to accomplish. Homo Sapiens are fascinating creatures.
I'm not an EMG hater,and in fact I've owned several guitars with the 81/85 combo. That said, this video pretty much confirms all of the stereotypes of EMG pickups: they just had a cold and sterile sound when compared to the passives.
If I'd done the test I would have set the tone control on the EMG set back to two thirds or between two thirds and 10 whereas with the passives I've had them set to have tone on 10. It would be hard to tell then.
ESP HAS 2 VOLUME KNOBS ONE MASTER TONE😛 1 for bridge 2 for neck that way you can do a kill switch effect by cutting vol off of one pickup👍
9:00 illuminati confirmed.
Baked Vader your comment made me laugh a lot 😂😂😂
I think you should send me both guitars, free of charge, so I can evaluate them myself ;)
Used pretty much every major active pickup brand going before becoming a passive pickup guy. Seymour Duncan Blackouts have great distorted tone while lacking somewhat the picking dynamics you get from passives, as well as having very nice cleans. EMGs less impressive distorted tone but great cleans again. Then I discovered Bareknuckle pickups.
True i had blackouts and i think they are real good better then emgs but the attack and stuff isnt bad. Passives have fuller tone and sound is alive
Bareknuckle pickups, are those like the Mooseknuckle pickups?
Finally, ESP gets some love. I own two with Actives and to be honest they do lack versatility but are required for the industrial metal sound eg Rammstein.
BLINDFOLD CHALLENGE
GIBSON VS CHIBSON
I'm with chappers, I can easily tell the difference. Maybe it's because I've been an EMG player for years.
The true test would be if they could tell pickup brands by the sound. EMG vs Duncan vs Dimarzio vs a boutique brand.
Please. Do a video of you gigging for under a 1000£. PLEASE!!!
they already done it, in two ways: more on the guitar for one, more on the amp for the other. Chek it out, beacause chapman got a sick sound with just a tiny terror from orange.