NEW Ducati Supersport 950 | Road / Sports Perfection?
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- The Supersport 950 is Ducati's answer to its customers who want something sporty for the street but don't want the super uncomfortable position which goes with it. New styling for 2021 and updated electronics but how does this little V twin compare to the likes of the RS660? Could this be the perfect road bike?
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The issue reviewers get wrong all the time is comparing peak HP numbers. Engines make power from tick over to redline. This 950 engine makes it about as perfectly linearly as an electric motor. The total power it makes across the rev range is considerably more than the 660.
But you are right that speed and acceleration are all power to weight. The lighter the bike, the faster it will go given the same power. Keep the 660 up in its power band and it will be faster. The nice thing about the Duc is the whole damn rev range is its power band.
In any event, I'm not trying to set any lap records. On a road bike, a little road hugging weight isn't necessarily a bad thing when it comes to comfort, confidence, and cutting thru a windy day. This reminds me of a smaller version of my ST4s. And that was one of my favorite sporty road bikes ever.
This one is giving me the itch...
Guessing you've ridden one, because you describe my experience perfectly. I had one for a few days as a courtesy bike while my Multi (1200, so you know my perspective) was having it's Desmond. Thought the 950 engine was one of the most perfect road engines I've ever used, and I had 6 years with a gear cam VFR800. Full of character (the burbles when pootling around, the little (probably engineered, but who cares) pops and crackles on he overrun), instant, seamless pull everywhere, exciting to give the beans without being terrifying, and geared perfectly. Couldn't care less about the on paper stuff. It felt amazing, whether full-on going for it or just a nice Sunday morning 50-60% mild pick-me-up pace.
I am so happy that manufacturers are making lower power supersports that are friendlier for road use. Like this one, the aprilia, new R7 (hopefully an R9 as well). What many riders dont know or even understand is how much fun lower powered bikes are to ride fast. 120hp+ is a good time dont get me wrong but there are times i would love to play around on something between 50-100hp.
Many years ago a friend very kindly (🙏) lent me his GSXR400 for a week. I cannot remember ever having so much fun on the twisties. No doubt about it; light weight with modest power is a fantastically accessible combination.
The only reason is, that max 100hp bikes can be restricted to 50hp for the A2 License in Europe that you get with 18
Excellent review. Thoroughly enjoyed watching.
Always look forward to an LCR review and doesn’t disappoint. Used up all the stroke under braking very quickly, be good to hear more about that
Yessir love my '21 Supersport 950S. That suspension is to die for. Done a few short trips around New Zealand on her already and what a joy to ride, even after a good 3-4 hours in the saddle. Mirrors are shite though but apart from that it's the best bike I've owned. It's a long termer for me for sure 🙂
Great content Mate , Always a great watch ,Keep up the great work ,Cheers
Nice real world review as always Chopsie. Cheers from Melbourne 😎
Love ALL your review plus. Love the engine rub road noice you record. Yum. TY.
It seems to be getting better and better. Some really positive reviews. It’s a shame that we will have to wait until the next iteration to lose some weight, when I assume that they will give it the new Monster frame. But if you like the trellis, it’s a classic. Nice one Chops!
Some straight bars for us older folks with arthritic wrists like the tuono and its a must buy.
just wait for new Monster S (same engine + same brakes + same suspension) and be happy ;-)
Seems like all the bikes I like , you are reviewing them …. Nicely done, big fan 😁
Great review 👍
Thank you sir!
Love that Ducati growl.
Just about to trade in my 2018 super sport S in, has full akropovics on it, sounds immense and a lot of carbon, absolute stunning bike. Pick my new 2021 Supersport S up next week, can’t wait. Best road bike I have ever owned and I’ve had quite a few!
Mates have fireblades etc and unless it’s long straights you can keep up on say a day out to the coast. Had 152mph record on the clocks and 140mph up hill, on the track lol
Immense grip and feel with the Ohlins
Mirrors vibrate a bit, so what. 10/10 for me that’s why i have just bought another 👍
You lucky bastard lol
Hey Mate. Can you let me now how good / bad is the windshield compared with a Monster without windshield if you drive on the highway a little bit quicker? I don‘t like the wind in my face on the monster and think about to trade to a 950…. Thanks
@@hiddendragon415 only just seen your comments mate, thank you lol 😂 👍
@@Peter10654 Hi mate, only just seen this, apologies. Not had a monster but had an MTO9 and the wind blast as all naked bikes is horrendous when you are giving it some. The super sport screen makes a very big difference, not the same as a GSXR where you are prone and tucked behind the fairing but far superior to a naked!
@@scozza7150 thanks a lot for your reply. Still waiting for my ordered 950s. Can’t wait to get the first ride 😜👍🏼
I’ve been waiting on this!
Top review as usual👌🏻
Nice! Great Review And Thanks For Sharing My Friend!
Chops another excellent video , pretty bike
Great review!
Definitely looks sharp. I'm coming to believe that the old standard bikes with a fairing made a lot of sense and that the current super naked bikes should go back to that. A fairing and screen on a sport bike with bars would be well received by me ;)
Another good review and video Lamb Chop
Love the bike work to save up nice video
Brilliant review chops thanks from danny
Ducati certainly know how to make stunning looking bikes. Even this is pretty tasty, if unusual. Their new limited edition v4 sp is the nicest looking bike ive seen. Ever.
Great honest review, love the colour, great content channel
Thanks Paul 👍
Love my Supersport S, so comfortable, looks and sounds great with Termignoni can, sometimes referred to as Dads Panigale lol. Cheers Chopsy.
Haha Dad's Panigale think that's the perfect description 🤣👍
25 years ago, the only bikes that had great handling were race replicas,
Now you really can have your cake and eat it with naked bikes and things like the rs660/ ducati ss
Dad’s Panigale - I like that.
@@frenchonion4595 owned her for three and a half years and have only done 7500 miles, due to having two bikes.
I really enjoyed that review esp the comments through town 😂
Perfect engine size and power for that bike. Many years ago I used to own 750 Supersports and it was sweet. Wonderful handling with a crisp engine plenty fast enough for our roads. I have fond memories of that Ducati. Nice review.
Awesome review
Best bike channel brah!
I'm 6' and 200lbs... so carry some holiday weight from 2009 and I love this bike, finally a sport bike that doesn't require a chiropractor visit after half hour of riding. Also, i like the over all power because on high end power bike, I'm constantly testing my self control. Happens on my fxdr and r18... go for it people... just toss those antlers out
Nice one Chopsy, I've got one on order. :)
Great review! Big miss on this is no cruise control.
Ducati did it on the Multistrada 950 S, so there's no excuse. Even the BMW S1000RR has it, so too does the Aprilia RS660.
Aside from that I love this bike!
Buy a throttle locker.
If they put Cruise Control on it it would be perfect.....
@Lorin Sanchez Well, the bike is a sport TOURING bike. Every touring bike needs cruise control even if its a sportbike. This bike is meant for street uses not track uses like its panigale counterpart
Yeah, they should of put it on my Monster + 937 too.
@@irfanshafri9574 This is not, and never has been, a sports tourer.
It's a panigale for knackered boomers.
@@wolfiestreet6899 ah yes, the adjustable windscreen, raised handlebars, and heated grips scream panigale /s
@@icedfirion Exactly. It's a badge.
Nice review LCR, I’ve had my Ducati SS for 3 years and love it, the ride and comfort is superb. Ducati prefer to call it a sport tourer rather than a track bike. It’s pretty powerful and more than enough for the roads. It’s a great handling bike and a fine all rounder. Agree the mirrors are useless and disappointed Ducati haven’t fixed it on the new updated model.
@@frenchonion4595 just over 7k miles, not too many as I also ride a F850GS
Pull the clutch and youll see what u have to see.
Brilliant review chops [as always]. What a lovely looking bike. Why aren't more manufactures making bikes like this. Imagine a Yamaha like this with the new MT09 lump in it [it would be fab]. Or a Triumph with the Tiger 900 engine [retuned for a bit more top end]. I think manufactures are genuinely missing out. We all don't want tall adventure bikes, a naked or a modern classic. I am hoping this, the Aprilia 660 and the new Yam YZF R7 are going to change things a bit. Keep them coming mate and take care.
It’s a good intermediate bike IMO kinda like a dad’s jeans bike with a sport look , i don’t hate the bike just slightly disappointed but after all it’s not a premium version , thanks LCR it looks like a busy summer for you ride safe summer has brought the crazy’s out
Really tempted to get one
Great road engine, even better in the Multistrada version👍, love sports tourers but my back doesn’t anymore😢.
Looks like a great bike. 👍
Good review again Chops not sure about the super sport think there is better ones of this type on the market
There’s a t-shirt Chopsy!
We love a little POP, BANG & CRACKLE! 😎👍
Yes like it 👍😁
Another great review Chops. I cannot for the life of me work out why you don't have more subscribers. Come on everyone, spread the word about LCR's channel and get him over 100K subscribers.
Haha thanks Oswald 😊
Way more relevant reviews than his TMF mate, at least chopsy gives it a bit, i like TMF reviews as well but rides so gently it's hard to get any worthwhile feedback or opinion on the bike
@@andrewprice1189 while you do have a point, TMF's riding style and general approach is probably more representative of the average (middle aged+) road rider.
@@andrewprice1189 I like both they are really engaging and the two different styles and views are a great indication of how good a bike is.
@@nickthequick Nah! 😁
Having recently rode one of these, I can 95% agree with Chopsy here !
The styling is beautiful, the suspension absolutely fantastic, the brakes absolutely awesome, but not so keen on the lump in the middle ! Torque is good 👍🏼 feel it could do with a few more horses, nothing excessive, but a few more ! It is a bit vibey, but nothing excessive, mirrors are virtually useless, if they was to make this a slightly bigger capacity v4, I’d be first inline to buy one !
3:38 what video editing platform do you use matey. Epic review and editing. I have this bike.
Hi Chopsy, good review mate, which bike did you prefer overall out of the Ducati and Aprilia RS660?
Those exhausts look gorgeous and i dont like Ducati’s, great review chops
I love the grumble that the Ducati gave you! Beautiful bike and you did great job on this one Chopsy!
If i wasn't dead set on the Aprilia RS660, I would be after this one.
Drove the Aprilia and the Supersport last week.. Both good bikes, but for some reason the heavier ducati seemed lighter in handling to me. Sound a little better aswell.. Quite a bit more expensive though.
@@whybe400 did the Ducati seem a lot faster? I’m confused Chops says they’re about the same. The Supersort claimed torque is 69 lb ft !
@@rudolphcarr Sorry for the late reply. They seem about the same, but the Ducs power comes a little more linear. The Aprilia had kind of a little hole from where she then pushed through. I did like the low rpm power of the duc more, but it also vibrates quite a bit more to the point where mirrors are practically useless while speeding up or driving low rpm. Bought my supersport 950s yesterday. :-)
The duc has more torque but it's also quite a bit heavier, the torque is measured without taking weight into account. So you should not make your decision from those numbers but actually ride both of them. Take every test drive you can do, in my experience that's easily possible.
@@whybe400 Thanks for the reply. I've ridden the RS660 and I thought it was underpowered. Neither one is for me I guess. My 690 SMC R feels much faster actually, at least up to 80 miles per hour. I guess it's all in the weight. Enjoy the Supersport, an awesome machine no doubt especially in S trim!
Our favourite road climb too Chopsy
I think it's a nice looking bike even with the standard double barrel shotgun pipes.. 👍🙂
After much soul searching, I think this is going to be the bike for me in the future. I loved my Moster 797 but wanted something with a bit better suspension and just a touch more power. I also wanted a bit of wind protection but just LOVE the useable power and torque of the L Twin for the street. Plus, It's italian and has an 18,000 mile desmo service instead of 7500 miles lol
thats some solid soul searching bud 😄
I've been riding bikes all my life and let me tell you the first time I rode this I was having so much fun and laughing out loud and actually bought it I actually went in to buy a hypermotard and thought this bike was way more user friendly especially on the highway and actually just the other day my son and I went out for a ride and I let him take it I've only been 131 mph on it but he did over 150 super stable beautiful bike so much fun
If that’s what you want, go for it. I had to sell my 797 for complicated reasons, then didn’t want to buy another 797 in worse condition for more. Got a good deal on a 2012 Speed Triple. A beast, a lot of fun, but never loved it as much as my 797. Moved on to buying a Z900RS. Have only pulled 200 miles so far. Sit here watch this video because I know the Supersport I tested was more fun. Hoping I’ll fall more in love with my Z900RS, but it’s just not the same non-stop immediate smile effect. I can tell already
Beautiful bike for sure, much better aesthetically than the last model, great review as always🇦🇺AU
Much better looking than the old model for sure i agree 👍
I guess I’m biased coz I own the previous model and I love its looks. Either way, they’re both miles better than anything designed by that blind South African guy who worked at Ducati in the naughties.
Nice review..Sold my V2 because the heat was crazy!! How is the heat on the Supersport ?
Just chilling with LCR as I had a 700 mile trip yesterday! "I have to get myself a middle weight" what are you like? 😆 Brilliant as always!
Haha thanks buddy 👍
Great review chops, its in my final 2 along with the Ninja 1000SX, be interested to see you review the SX.. keep up the good work..
Did you make a decision on which bike to buy? The ninja and the supersport are the two bikes I'm looking at as well.
@@Trancepotato No unfortunately we are in lock down here in Australia due to COVID so can't test ride them :-( the Ducati does not have cruise control which is a bumper. I currently have a Triumph Street Triple 765RS but find it to stiff for Aussie country roads. The new Aprilia Turono RR looks good but $10k more than the Kawasaki here..
Needs just a little more fuel capacity. Other than that it looks like an amazing road sportbike. Thanks, Chopsy! 🍻
I think I might get 1 of these for short weekend holiday tours of UK, and BaylisV2 for local fun blasts. 999s for everyday fun, Genesis5valave for AutoJumble days.
What a lovely bike!! Shame about the mirrors though....
Riding down the high street saying people love the sound.. reminds me of the South Park episode with the Harley Davidson riders 😂
This bike looks so much nicer with double underseat exhaust
Doesn’t that make it heavier though? I had termi under seat exhausts on my Multistrada 1100s, that whole system was very weighty. But that’s where it went so 🤷🏻♂️
You are awesome! I loved your review of the bike I already own! My FIRST bike I’ve ever purchased by the way!
Great review. Not sure why he didn't get more than 120 - 130 mls per tank. I got a reliable 200 out of my 939. My 950 is just a touch better, at least while running it in. I've averaged about 60 mpg US - about 70 mpg Imperial.
cant wait for street fighter v2 Hurry up Ducati!
Great review as usual one question any info on what it's would be like for the old girl on the back? 😆👌🏻👍🏻
That Pearl White is the same shade and fleck as the Yamaha White in my 87 Genesis. I own a 999s and that is about the same spec as this bike. The Ohlins and Brembos are sublime. And they are faster on average than most modern bikes because of the midrange mid corner poise and control.
If you want a sports bike for the streets, this is a lot better option than the panigales, if you care about comfort. Essentially its just a monster in the clothing of a panigale. I test rode the older 939 supersport and it was plenty capable, but i was disappointed with the electronics. This seems like a good step in the right direction! It won't be as fast as a panigale on track, let's be real here, it's still way more powerful than what you need on the road! But that's what we want isn't it😂
Once again a great review Chopsie! Keep em coming! Love from Finland
Thanks matey and your assessment is spot on too 👍
a sporty bike with built in viby massage function .... nice :)
Another Great and enjoyable video 👍👍👍 your enthusiasm and true review makes your videos tops, keep it up...keep safe 👍
The full akrapovic exhaust looks lovely on these! Great review chopsy!
Thanks Dave 👍 yes I bet it does, would probably have to change the stock one if I bought one..
Sounds fantastic too!
Is it a big difference from the stock exhaust? Quite expensive.
Very good looking bike.
Reminds me of my old Superhawk, VTR1000
My dream bike!
They need the monster 1200s in it. That would be perfect for me.
Why do you need that power?
@@HeyAddieImTojo need ?
@@stuartb1963 he said need. I asked why need
The bike has similar power to the original 916 superbike. It has plenty of power for road use. I have the previous model and it's fantastic. A mate of mine has 959 and we occasionally swap rides. The Supersport is a far superior road bike. The only small minus is you miss the aggressive personality of the superbikes but you can't have the best of both worlds. The Supersport is a bloody good compromise though.
Agreed. Loved everything about the Supersport S when I tested one a couple of years ago - except for the 'go'. Just felt a bit wheezy compared to the R1200S Beemer I had at the time. The dealer said Ducati won't do a 1200 version. Been proved right so far. Shame. Reckon they're missing a trick - and a sale to me. Bought a 1250RS Beemer instead.
Great review, I had the previous model and a cracking bike it was too. Only one fault for me.... it was a nut roaster! I spent a lot of time standing on the pegs. 😁
Oh interesting Des I didn't notice that but weather was pretty cold when I borrowed it..
@@LambChopRides i feel like it is not a problem at all when you’re on the move. In hot weather and traffic lights however.. but then again, name a bike that doesn’t get hot under those circumstances
@@HeyAddieImTojo I’ll get a test ride on the new one just to see if they’ve done anything with it. I know there’s definitely aftermarket heat shields available for it, the v2 and the pannigales. I suppose you’re effectively sitting over the rear cylinder
I had an 1100 evo monster with a similar issue. The 1200 monster and the multis weren’t as bad.
Nice one chopsy!
I bought an F900R SE after watching ur review.
Cruise control? Sweet machine!!
Nice looking bike, lacks cruise control and tank range though
Hey new subscriber here! Was wondering what mic/gopro set up you're using? Looks and sounds so smooth!!
This one as its older was filmed on a hero4. Sony lav mic 👍
950's are middle weight bikes now! Definitely agree though as it is a little heavy and low on power for a 937cc bike, lovely looking bike though.
yes agree
Totally agree with what you say about middleweights being more engaging, I'd take it a stage further and say that older "analogue" bikes without the aids even more so.
All the press rave about middleweights
But it's the tuono 1100's and superdukes etc , that get the highest reviews.....
@@Bow-to-the-absurd willy waving
@@blueyondermoto a powerful bike has the ability to do things a 600 simply cannot.
Choice is the goal, I think.
I recently bought the 2017 939 Supersport with 2159 km on it in excellent condition. standard model. and I think the suspension is great on it. but I have never ridden the S to compare it too. l love my bike. its such a nice machine. I don't considerate it to to vibey. but the mirrors think otherwise. and it doesn't like being at 1 or 2000 rpm. other than that the power band of the engine is so usable and the bike is full of character.
Nice looking machine, and probably was schofield he gets where water can't.
Olá chops this bike is very similar to my Honda vtr 1000 firestorm 110 hp V twin and riding position
Had the old 600ss in the 90's which was great fun but under powered. Glad to see a useable and comfortable proper road sporster instead of the insane horsepower race on totally impractical bikes.
The ultimate road bike in this class was and will for me always remain, the hugely grin inducing aprilia rsvr gen 1 Mille. Nothing I've ridden on the road comes close to fun, sound or visceral exoerience of a proper hairy chested man sized bike.
Ducati fave gone backwards and failed. Tbe old mile would wipe its nose on grunt/power and sound plus was comfy enough for long tours. I'd buy an older gen1 rsvr instead of putting three times the money into this and get a better bike.
I had the 939 S and loved it. Needs more power though. You picked up on all the points that stood out for me. Perfect suspension, best seat ever, the pops and bangs on overrun. I’d have another if it had another 40bhp.
Agreed
I want one. But I also want the V2. I’m leaning to the V2 because I have another bike and want something more sporty.
Beautiful Machine! Does it get hot like most Ducati’s? Thanks Chopsy!
Yes, they get hot and cook your ass when going slow. No issue over 30mph though.
Not interested in ducati's but watched it anyway, cos chops is a legend, thanks for the video mate.
Thanks Peter 👍
Great video as always! Regarding the SuperSport 950 S vs. the RS660 acceleration... On paper, it would look like the RS660 would be faster, but the best numbers during a road test for these bikes are as follows... ** The (Ducati SuperSport 950 S)... 0-60 mph = 3.26 - 1/4 Mile = 10.99 @ 128 mph - Top Speed = 152.9 mph. ** The (Aprilia RS660)... 0-60 mph = 3.29 - 1/4 Mile = 11.23 @ 124 mph - Top Speed = 147 mph. I know these are just magazine tests, but they still use professional equipment, so it gives us a basic idea of how quick these bikes are. I'm guessing the SuperSport 950 S probably has better gearing & it's probably also underrated in it's power figures? Just guessing? Anyway, I love your camera angles, and I absolutely think your MC videos are incredible! Safe travels!
-Chris
Great review! What a let down those mirrors. I'm considering this for me i next bike but these mirrors... Should they be show stoppers? Considering you've got Ninja 1000SX which is far better but for the looks department. Ducati beats it silly there.... I'm confused 🤔
Imagine this bike with the Multistrada V4 engine in it!👍
Dialling out preload ie increasing sag, tends to make it firmer
Thanks for posting. I test drove the 2020 model last October. Loved the riding. The one thing I did not like was the exhaust (I know, I am shallow). Your comments are dead on. The quick shifter was like butter. Was tempted to get it, but nothing was coming out Italy at the time. Plus the dealer did not know when the new model would start arriving. Finally, did I mention I was not fond of the exhaust. IMHO, it made the bike look like a toy (to me anyway). It was a bit pricey and the price was pretty close to the Pannigale. Great video, very enjoyable.
Talking of shallow: I was put off by the vibey mirrors. And the lack of cruise control on a sports tourer. Loved the exhausts though.
Can you compare this to a street triple RS, ducati street fighter V2 or the triumph Speed Twin? Which one would you choose?
Interesting. I've just bought one (I'm picking it up this weekend). The exhaust pipes as part of the overall design were one of the things that sold me on it, especially with the white colour scheme. But I guess that's the beauty of biking, everyone has different likes and dislikes which is what makes visiting various biker haunts so interesting.
You are one lukcy dude!
@@WhitewallMoto Yes I know. Still loving it two months on. 🙂
@@rochmel1409 How i wish...
Nice thorough review. I moved to the UK from the US last year and picked up a clean used '18 standard SS 939, same weight, power, frame, tires, etc etc as the 950. Wanted something that felt new-to-me different than the trusty '12 speed triple I had for years and really liked. The SS hits the spot. Yes, the SS is as you say a wonderful bike for the road: comfortably sporty with a punchy engine with power just were it should be and great handling with a nice balance between stability and quickness. I'd rather gave ohlins but the standard's marzochi fork / sacks shock feels darn nice to me. The 950 seems to have lost a bit of mpg.
Will you be trying the 2021 Monster?
Chopsy.... are you going to do a comparison video of the Aprilia RS660 and the Ducati Supersport S?
Great video and appreciate the honest comments! I just wanted to know from all owners how bad is the heat coming from the rear/top cylinder during warmer days and how you dealt with it. There's a SS950 from 2021 waiting at the Ducati dealer next to my house who's hunting my nights and I don't want to make the same mistake when I decided to buy the HD Sportster only because I loved the look. I understand they are totally different bikes, no comparison at all but I guess you get my point.
Hi mate. I’ve had a 950S for nearly a year now and yes you can feel the warmth from the cylinder but only really in standstill traffic and even then it’s not bad at all. I wouldn’t worry about it. Absolutely love the bike. Hope this helps.
Hi there, I've owned one since launch. And can concur that the heat is not a problem yes warm in standstill traffic but nothing painful or uncomfortable. Silk white is beautiful get it bought!
The SuperSport 950 starts at $13,495😛 , with the S version coming in at $15,795😑 for Ducati Red, and $16,195!!🙄 for Arctic White Silk.
The S model comes upgraded with a 48mm Öhlins fork and Öhlins shock, while the base model utilizes a 43mm Marzocchi fork and Sachs shock.
Surprising grunt this engine in 821 and 937 hypermotard formats when worked hard - Strong to 200kph and stretch to 220 sort of thing - Hopefully euro5 hasn't neutered that - And a pity only 16l tank as 200km range a bit light for touring unless constantly planning or filling up everywhere - But Ducati has created some very nice lightweight zip style panniers for touring on the Supersport anyway - Based on old Hyperstrada bags by the looks and they were superb - weighed nothing, quick to mount and good volume
I have a ss939 S with the full Akro pipes 175 mile tank range , comfortable; certainly quick enough for the road . Great handling also , fantastic bike toured Wales on her .