TZ 750 goes for a run up a fast mountain road with FZ07 chasing
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 พ.ย. 2024
- Number five is the beastly Yamaha TZ750 because it made suspension, chassis and tire engineers suicidal. Their imaginations were awakened by the jangling alarm of desperation. The first try of 1974, TZ750A, was just as bad as the ghastly 1972 Kawasaki and Suzuki 750 racing Triples, which were the first wave of this revolution. Wobbling, weaving and shredding their tires, all three of these 750s were proof that skinny, hard-rubber tires, door-closer shocks with three inches of travel and broom-handle frames were finished. The challenge was to make the 100-hp motorcycle controllable. I saw men desperate, sure that their racing careers were over, as they sat white-faced and shaking in their trackside lawnchairs. It was no better at the factories as the telexes piled up, telling how their new monsterbikes were being defeated by 350cc Twins.
I raced a partial AMA Road Race season in '75 on a TZ-350 (D) and there were only a few guys in the world who could ride the TZ-750 really fast and then there was Kenny Roberts. Cal Carruthers once told me a story that when Yamaha produced the TZ750 (actually a 700 until '75 when the works riders got the 750) they shipped a couple over to America to let their factory riders see what they thought. Cal was the head of Yamaha Racing in America then and he said they took the bikes to a track in Cali (now closed, but I can't remember the name) with the four Yamaha factory riders; one guy I can't remember, Gene Romero, Ago and Kenny. Cal said Ago could ride it and put up a pretty good lap time, but the other two factory riders "could not ride the bike"...and Kenny put up a lap time 5 seconds faster then Ago.
I heard Kenny is gay. That's the proy with hearsay ....
As a proud Aussie, can I gently correct your naming here; it's Kel (short for Kelvin) Carruthers!
Wow what a pleasure to watch Thanks a bunch pal!! Not very often you get to sit behind a tz750 as there sooo fast. Isn't it weird how it looks so at home on these mountain roads. Thanks again best 12 mins of my life ✌✌✌✌🇬🇧
Believe me I was whippin that 07 for all it was worth.
In 2007 at the IOM centenery I met the Irish Road Racer Con Law who had won the Manx G.P. on a TZ750. He was very gregarious and told me lots of ‘ tricks ‘ about getting th best out of a TZ 750. I’ll never own one. The closest I’ve come is that I own a HRC kittted Honda RC30. There is something about a pure racebike that makes them so worth the expense of owning and ( trying ) to race one!
Lucky guy gets to hear and smell that two stroke.
Ross ....i would be there alday long if he was running it on "Castrol R"👍
Castor oil ftw
New engine casings are being cast by Consortium Racing in Australia. Most AWESOME bikes.
Yes!, the infamous Mount Palomar! Many Many years, (90's-Today), of carving those curves... Many very exciting and difficult memories up on that mountain!!! I used to have this dream that there could have been an organized race on the mountain or T.T. style... You would close off Hwy 76 and it could be a loop...!? Anyway, I know it wouldn't happen and never did. so on goes the fun rides...
I had the same dream.
Me too
That TZ sounds awesome... this is the bike i would most like to ride ... I just broke out the fzr .. got new lockset .. i just need to jet it better.. and then i will return to the mountain...
Dont know where this is but it reminds me of the Palomar Mtn runs we used to make in N. San Diego county...Not as many straight aways but its a heart thumper.. Great Video !!! ahhhh yes the inevitable tour bus at 10:42 !!!!!!!!!
It is Palomar
Thank you guys for this wonderful video at least he ran it pretty good and you didn't drive like 55 LOL word of love TCU play with a Superbike
I also ride a wheelie happy 2t. What makes cornering stressful around slow corners is keeping it out of it's powerband.
Keep it *in* the powerband, right on the edge of traction..
Fun stuff there. Ballsy taking that beast out on the road like that. Hopefully you've since invested in a wind sock for your camera. They work wonders.
Ah hum,
The TZ-750 was a formula one motorcycle.
My favorite was the e model with the mono-shock!!! ✌️😎👍
Would like to have the TZ engine in a R6-Frame. :-)
Fz frame for me
@@McNamEvan it's a race engine, a fz frame would not do it justice. They are basically a dirtbike frame. The r6 frame would be my choice to. But with a bikini fairing instead of the full fairing, because the engine looks so good
That would be my dream also ! R6 is easy enough, tz750 motor slightly harder to come by 🙈🤷♂️🏍🤞
@@paulrothwell7441 All-new production castings are available, but are prohibitably expensive. 1 engine case was $12K last I looked.
Its possible if your pockets are deep enough.
Mom, I want one for Christmas.
This basically me on my TZ350 when I take it out of my neighborhood , get on rt 287 , and go from one exit to the next , just to piss off the cops!!
Just goes to prove. All the gear no idea
Good lord. I'd love to be behnd that. Calif was great in the 1980"s with no helmet law. Me and friends all had 2strokes, rzs and rds tzrs and gammas. We terrorized Angeles crest, the rock store and Topanga canyon and the valley for years. The good old days, 35 years ago.....
My TZ750 had CA. Plates and tags.
bet it smelled good too !
From the Era of the " Flexi Fliers " .
TZ 750 ! Fantastica !!
Good way to get it impounded. If you're going to go that slow, get an RD250.
Muito top essas TZ750. meu sonho ver uma dessas de perto.
Was that specific bike "The Bumblebee Special" of legend?
This guy is NOT giving it full throttle. He is not getting anywhere near the real power band. I know, I used to swing on a road race sidecar with a TZ 750 engine.
what a great road bike
Fantastic to see 👍👍👍🏍🏍😄
Maybe not as much power but very light much more so than the four-stroke monsters now.
140hp is still plenty.
@@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443 they didnt have anywhere near that. 120 at best
No plate?
and only using half the road,nice
Tá muito linda.. magnífica..
Well that sucks, can't hear the tz singing because of the wind noise!
The RZ350 was one hell of a bike with 2 stroke form (ypvs) of what Honda (Civic type R) call Vtec. That TZ750 is two TZ350 engines in one frame with only 2 wheels. Can you keep up?
Yes I can. On a fz09. Lol
Vtec is nothing like a power valve tf
I remember the rz350 and it was water cooled but it was a heavier bike, my rd350 with chambers would blow it away up until the top end at 5th and 6th....
Is it normaly in usa riding a pure race bike on normal road?
Sometimes, yes.
👍👍
Is that legal?
Lol
I lost my licens because i was caught driving on a racing bike in Denmark thats not allowed 😅
Totally 😁😁😁
Yep😂😂😂
@@rasmuswellejus2809 No shit. Still fun tho. And worth being nicked for.
Funny the guy on yellow bike points his right knee on every right hand curve fast or slow and hardly really puts left knee out until a few times mid way in video. Kinda strange but I guess everyone has their own style. He does seen to go faster in right hand curves. I would bet he is right handed.
66 years old with 2 titanium plates and a dozen " drywall " screws in the right leg, knee area. __ Right knee is a bit stiff.
Maybe he was in his prime when the bike was new. Now him and the bike are just taking it easy,trust me he was not even twisting that throttle.
Why is a vintage factory GP bike traversing public streets?
Coldsmoke does it fucken matter! Enjoy it,squid.
Poser. I kept fast forwarding to see if he would actually go fast. I won't even give him a grandpa rating, I'll give him a grandma rating
By todays standards the TZ750 can't keep up with a mild street bike. At it's most powerful it only made 120 HP. So it's not the all conquering beast many think it is, it was fast for it's time, but that has long ago passed. A 600 modern Ninja would most likely blister it's ass.
40 year old technology with spindly forks, skinny tires, single piston front calipers doesn't help. ___ The 120 hp would work better in a modern chassis.__ Note: The camera bike was a modified FZ 07.
Negative. A stock '73 Type A (700) was rated at about 92wrhp, and that was with more conservative porting, ignition, etc. By the time the TZ750 finally end its factory support (around '79), they were factory tuned TZs belting out 150wrhp. Sure, a modern 750 makes that at peak, but the peak horsepower of a modern 750 is around 13,000-15,000rpms (these have a brutal hit from around 7,000 and sung to 11,000) This also produced significantly more torque, but in a narrower spread. The TZ750 engine was actually pretty far ahead of its time. 120wrhp was easily achievable, but it's not the 120wrhp everyone is use to. If the TZ engine was in a modern chassis, it would be a weapon. But one only a handful of people would want to die on its edge. A modern bike is certainly far easier to go fast on, but with the right rider, the TZ could do some damage.
505197 I had H2 750 that made 120 Hp,it was on the road sometimes since I was hand grenade.
Spencer Guinn if they continued making the GP 500cc with today's electronic wizardry who knows?
lol every time he actually opens it up it straight up fucks off.. pretty awesome for a 40yo bike with 40yo suspension
How many tz 750 in the world and why aren't they reproduced and modified. C&c machines can do this easily.
Because 99% of people couldn't ride one. Kawasaki used to make something similar called a Widowmaker.
@@redtobertshateshandles what do you mean they couldn't ride one? If they can ride off of the showroom floor which is virtually a superbike, gsxr, pangale etc I don't see any reason why they can't ride a TZ but I said modified for today's standards as far as frame and breaking and so forth.
Know what I mean?
I can't imagine a TZ 750 is over 200 horsepower, but I understand what you mean in terms of power curve but when you say ride, the majority of people who buy a virtual superbike aren't exactly riding their bike, in other words like somebody told me, the new "Ducati is about 200 horsepower and it's got traction control and what the hell for? People aren't going to be writing it in such a way that they need that or even know how to utilize it".
But I say who cares, it's just the point that you're writing something along the lines of an equivalent tz750 except modern day.
I don't want to hear endless stories about the tz250 blowing away KZ1000 and all that jazz like I heard back in the day when I was putt putting around on my rd-350 and dreaming of riding a tz 250.
In Japan they got their act together over there and I remember a few years back looking into some bikes and they got real cool cafe race style 2 strokes, the ones I saw were pretty much all white and looked real mean.
But I also understand here in California and perhaps all of America two strokes were banned from the streets, but now I see hunk of junk bikes from China for $3,000 brand new that I know for a fact would not pass customs years ago or American safety standards cuz my friend dropped the bike and the rear bracket that holds the brake assembly broke off.
That is DANGEROUS, suicidal.
I'll take my chances on a modern-day TZ for $30,000
Yoi can build a brand-new TZ750 engine with newly made reproduction parts if you have very deep pockets.
Lächerlich langsam
umm, that tz750 was barely warmed up, hardly worth the effort
If it's not redlined, you're not really riding it...