I remember watching this about 15-20 years ago and thinking that whoever added that trumpet sound got far too carried away and it just took me back instantly! Windows 98 was a magnificent thing!
it was fine the first time ...like so many awesome moments in my experience ...does not bear repeating if i was the sound engineer i would have split the tracks and added some pickle to keep it real and i would still have been ridiculed for pasting
All the electronic bs aids n what not in sports cars these days. Is the exact reason that the Noble m600 is my fav and dream sports/super car. Also a 96 viper gts. Currently my sports car is a 300hp NA stroker 2.8 mustang 2. Fully built motor. DOHC. Covered to EFI with 4 individual throttle bodies of course.
That Vantage sounds immense. Well done to TVR for smashing the arse out of that race, don’t care how they did it, fact is they crossed the line well in advance of the rest. Well done Blackpool.
The HP figures were all over the place until you got it to one of the TVR mapping gurus on it and then all was good. I had a V8 Cerbera and it was the most visceral, exciting and unhinged machine I’ve ever sat in. It would still be an extremely fast car today if it had a similar auto gearbox etc.
My Dad worked at AML in Newport Pagnell and I’ve always been obsessed with that V8 Vantage. I’ve found myself doing what I used to do as a small child and listening to that scene of the Vantage rev it’s engine on repeat. It brings tears to my eyes that car and I can’t wait to have one in the very near future!
-and as much as I adore the Viper, the first generation is a remarkably bewildering achievement of huge weight in a small package. You see one in person and it's rather small dimension wise! ...then you realize it weighs about as much as a dying star. They really were on a shoestring budget with the 1st Viper tho, even ended up sourcing a few suspension bits from the Dakota pickup! Later generations were SO much better. At the time though it was the goddamned messiah to Dodge's image problems.
Where it lacks in performance it more than makes up for with sex appeal... Something the rest of this particular line up can't hold a candle too, even the Ferrari at the end
Exactly Steve just purchased a 96 RT/10 Black with silver stripes, Last April and won At 14 out of 15 shows including best in show and also mayors choice award. The body style is timeless and very sexy and draws lots of attention. You could see the car on TH-cam under 96 Dodge Viper black with silver stripes. When it was for sale at BJ Moters and the Viper exchange in Texas. 👍
@@michaelkniazuk6418 in terms of reliability the viper will be going long after the others have packed up! However my favourite car of the bunch is the Aston Martin. Its desperately unreliable and massively overpriced. But its coach built and there was a 600bhp version. TVR admitted that they modified that Cerbera hence its win. A 600bhp Vantage wouldn't have won anyway. But it's my pick. Followed by the Porsche. Speed aside the TVR was poorly made and very unreliable. Noisy, cramped and uncomfortable. How do I know the TVR was modified? Because 350bhp isn't enough to win a mile long drag race.
I guarantee they made that Viper lose on purpose. They hated American cars at the time and when they put it against Euro cars, it couldn't show them up. I've seen races where that Viper beat up hard on a similar Lotus V8 so this just doesn't make sense.
@@jimmyfarley5581 agreed, I also think they forced the Viper to last place. I've seen a race between that Viper and Lotus and the Lotus got smacked more than once by it. Something just doesn't add up here.
I had this on VHS haha!!! I was always a big TVR fan, so seeing the Cerbera give the competition a sound kicking made my day!!! I know that I always disliked the music these vids used to have but that terrible fanfare tune that plays is far worse than I remembered. It'll haunt my dreams haha!!! It's great seeing this again.
I always loved that Vantage V550 and later V600 back in the day, although now im older I'd take a previous generation oscar india Vantage, same huge V8 sound but much better looking. As for TVR, I loved the Griffith 500 back then and that would still be my pick now. Proper british muscle 💪
I did and still do love that Aston Martin. It looks brutal! Imagine doing some work on the wheels and tyres, brakes, suspension and inlet/exhaust to liberate another 50 bhp. Fucking stunning!
I appreciate the age of this video but can you imagine in 2022 a car company producing the brand leading supercar with a 3.5 V8 with 2 turbos! Only making 349bhp! Lol
Gareth T what’s your honest owners take on it having hindsight? Good buy or expensive mistake? Garage time off the road as truthful as they try to make out?
But dont we all remember this tvr had the Tuscan 4.5ltr race engine and near 400bhp and 400ft/lbs of torque. Although the Cerb was fantastic with the 4.2.
eatthisvr6 actual 4.2's had around 350, 4.5s had around 390-400. This one had a Tuscan race car engine with over 400bhp. A standard one might still have won, but not by this margin. TVR was generally not very truthful on power outputs.
Deep_Dive I think a lot of early Cerbs had that race spec engine to start with. Have you seen the Top Gear road test with JC from around this time? When he lifts the bonnet you can see the claimed “4.2” has what appears to be carbon inlet trumpets like the silicone ones fitted on a typical 4.5.
Deep_Dive Really? The AJP 8 engines came in two standard configurations, a 4.2 producing about 360 bhp and a 4.5 producing about 420. The ‘red rose’ version made about 440bhp. This was no one off special. My little 3.6 FFF makes nigh on 400bhp and that’s not hype, it’s fact. The Al Melling speed six and speed 8 engines are still phenomenally quick when compared with today’s exotica. It’s such a shame that after Jeremy Clarkson fell out with Perter Wheeler he insisted on slagging off TVRs at every opportunity, particularly on reliability issues. There is nothing like a TVR, a car that you have to drive not be driven by.
The V8 Vantage was the winner! Well, in my book anyway. But the others were cool too. And the TVR was mega fast. The Vantage could not be the greatest car in the world because it's not a Ferrari? Surely Mr. Clarkson was was joking with us? 😊
all the good cars from GranTurismo 2 :D only Porsche has not the balls to put the car to GT2 Cerbera was my favorit in the game, and the race FTO :D yes Gran Turismo make a good work !
It was probably EA's fault since they have the monopoly of Porsche cars licenses... Like they did when Forza 4 was in development and EA didn't wanted the cars to be included in the game.
Mr. Lince I've been playing GT2 and I forgot how much I loved the Cerbera. Btw Porsche had a contract with EA that only recently ran out which meant games that weren't under EA couldn't use Porsche or they'll be sued. That's why Porsche hasn't been in GT and other games but it was always in Forza.
Ok so in 2022 can you honestly imagine a 1300kg car (including driver) running low diameter tyres with little width. A basic unaided traction system and a manual gearbox, smashing a 0-60 in 4 seconds and the 100mph in 9 seconds whilst producing a paltry 350bhp! Seriously! Yes its light but not that light. The wheels and tyres are tiny. The bhp is "only " 350. Add a slow manual gearbox. Do the math.
Wow, thanks for that insider info! I was 11 when I was first watched this video and I was amazed that the TVR was fastest while being half the price of the other cars. But I didn't used to know that to achieve a claimed 0-60 time on a manual car you have to really thrash it in a way you wouldn't want if you owned it. So I guess the real-world overall fastest car is really the 911 Turbo?
cerbera ... oh god i wanted one soooo bad ... i saw one up north getting a shift on ... the noise was visceral ...the view of it going off was like a 30`s hand wound film ... faster than you would believe
@jayscaterham Hi thanks for commenting. Was he driving in the actual race? The Caterham did beat the Viper to the end, which was incredible. If you notice, the Caterham did have an early start in the race, plus it has a good power to weight ratio, than most of the other cars. Do you know any of the other drivers there on that day?
I do agree some what to your comment, as this race counted towards aerodynamics, rather than the skills of the drivers. But then again, the Viper did have the biggest engine, yet only produced 415BHP - which to me is not a lot.
I know this is an old comment, but it should be mentioned the viper v10 engine was designed to optimize torque, and it certainly did that with nearly 500 lb-ft of it.
I remember thinking that Porsche with 402 bhp, better traction off the line should have won coz the Cerbera only has 350 bhp but the 911 weighs 1500 kgs and the Cerbera weighs only 1100 kgs. Thats 400 kgs lighter! Thats massive and if you factor in the TVRs amazing aerodynamics that probably helped it top end. Remember this is a mile long race. Dunno what max speed these cars reached but it must have been very very high. TVR does a12.2 quarter mile and the 911 does 12.5. Im guessing these cars must have been up over 150-160 mph when they crossed the line.
I seriously doubt the Porsche is 400kgs heavier than the TVR. 250kgs perhaps. Anyway many years later TVR finally admitted to what everyone was thinking and said the car in that race had a race engine. The TVR produced close to 450bhp. Not the 350bhp claimed. TVR actually admitted this. Why? Because a 1300kg car (fuelled with driver) on skinny 17 inch wheels, a so so manual gearbox, no limited slip differential and a paltry 350bhp ain't doing the performance times the car in the video did. It wouldn't have beaten the 911. Unlikely to beat the "almost " as light torque fest Lotus. And does a better power to weight ratio beat the Aston over a mile? 350bhp vs 550bhp. Perhaps the TVR would beat the Aston but by such a large margin? Not with 350bhp it wouldn't.
I first saw this when I was 8 years old and I wanted a TVR my whole life but when I was 22 my Dad wouldn’t let me buy one because of the lack of airbags. I went on to write off a Cayman S Black Edition and a 911 GTS before, after which point I drove a Fiat 500c Abarth for 3 years... so I could teach myself what it was like to drive a car without writing it off! I now have a C63 507 - I will NEVER part with it. I will always regret not owning/wonder what it would be like to drive a 4.5 Cerbera - for me one of the SICKEST cars ever made! EVER! That Vantage also. WOW! This lot over any current car, including a 488 Pista or a Rimac (yawn)... ANY DAY!
The TVR Cerbera was still a production car, and as he said those "specialty cars" were things like the McLaren F1 and Jaguar XJ220 which were only produced in small numbers and cost hundreds of thousands.
On Jeremy's 'Most Outrageous' dvd of around the same time as this he had the TVR Speed 12. It always annoys me that he wasn't able to race it against something. It never made it into production but still would loved to have seen it happen! A TVR with over twice the BHP as this one? Lol. Now we will never know.
White and blue one? That was the Tuscan speed 12 or project 7/12 and was handful lol. Sacrificed I believe to make the Cerbera speed 12. Which scared peter wheeler to much and he decided not to sell it. And I think it was sacrficed to keep the cerb speed 12 race cars going. Thankfully though both race cars are now road cars. The 1st is red and has the big v12 from the original road car. Race cars were detuned cos of rules and i don't think any are left? It now lives in the lakeland museum and gets taken out on the rare occasion. I think rarely cos it's the only speed 12 engine left. The 2nd car is purple and is more likely to be driven around as it has a tuned aston v12. And both have the race car bodywork with the extra vents. The guy who built both did have the original road car bodywork. But sold it on ebay a while back. Also there is a tribute speed 12 built by helical, now known as TR. Their's I believe is a low volume production car and also has a tuned aston v12 which pushes out over 1000hp. They have a website with details and the 2 ex-racers have a dedicated fb page called speed 12. Also wasn't that the video with the Jaguar xjr-15? That looked like a handful to.
I really doubt it's a mustang steering wheel. It's an ugly, oversized steering wheel I'll grant you but back in the days where Aston Martin coach built its cars (as was the case with the Vantage) I'm sure they were more than capable of making their own steering wheel when charging triple figures for the car. Yes it used a Corvette gearbox. Why? It's a strong, reliable and cheap gearbox. A gearbox that's able to cope with the power being put through it. Remember this is before dual clutch and flappy paddles. Lots of cars use the ZF gearbox. I bet the Lotus and TVR had a ZF gearbox too! And the viper. It's a good gearbox.
@@jimmyfarley5581 it is a good gearbox, I was mainly saying it as a joke but that is 100% a ford steering wheel, no doubt about it. I have the same one in my foxbody mustang. And the viper actually uses a t56, another great and very common gearbox 😀
@@calincampbell5637 I know for a fact that the Aston Martin, TVR and Lotus are all horrifically unreliable cars. Although the Viper lost I bet it's by far the most reliable. Especially its engine. The viper V10's if looked after are pretty much bulletproof. The same can't be said for the other cars in the race. Especially the British built cars!
@@calincampbell5637 now I think about it Aston Martin nearly went into administration and ford saved them. Much of the switchgear was ford to. Imagine paying 120k for an Aston Martin back in 1995 ( I dread to think what that is today with adjusted inflation) and it having lots of ford parts! The suspension was a design from the 1960's! Mechanically the Vantage was garbage. I loved it for its looks. Imagine it with proper suspension and ceramic brakes, shod with 20 inche alloys (originals were 18's). With fat exhausts instead of the tiny pea shooters it came with. Stunning
I've never believed that "race engine" story as the 4.5 Red Rose had around 440bhp anyway. They may have lied that it was the 4.2 and sent a 4.5 instead, but I highly doubt it was a race engine.
As pretty as it is. The Viper was an under achiever in it's first incarnation. The GTS hard top came later and of course the competition was ready for that as well ,but they as beautiful. The TVR was one of those specialty cars he said didn't belong in this production car class ,which is why many people still don't know what they were.
Lol, guarantee that Viper driver slowed down. I've seen races where the Lotus gets smoked by the gen 1 Viper. Guarantee they wanted the Viper to lose on purpose because they didn't respect US cars. It would have come in 3rd if it was a fair race.
@Colin Gregson the TVR is comically unreliable. As is the Lotus. The Aston Martin isn't far behind. I thought the Viper would have been quite reliable, with its iron block and single cam.
@@jimmyfarley5581 "the TVR is comically unreliable" Have you owned one? No because if you had, you wouldn't post such bullshit. I've owned one for 14 years, done almost 60000 miles in it and it's broken down precisely once. By comparison, my VW has broken down 3 times in the 4 years I've had it.
@@kingcurry6594 wow Mr angry has joined the chat. No I haven't owned a TVR. Yes it's because I can't afford a TVR. However a close friend of mine had a Tuscan and it was nothing but trouble. So that's my experience with TVR. Also I'm yet to read an "Autocar " "Auto Express " or "Evo Magazine " review that's praised the reliability and build quality of TVR. It's OK to be a passionate owner that has fastidiously cared for their car but the overall consensus isn't dependable reliability. I'd like to know your thoughts on the Lotus and Aston (neither of which I've owned) but I said were unreliable. Ironic how all 3 were British built at the time.
I wunder what speeds they all hit at the finish line? It should of said just to see how close they got to there top speed over that 1 mile flat stretch
I just absolutely love that music every time he introduces the next car.. not irritating at all.. nope.. just thrilling and beautiful like the gorgeous sounds of releasing gas and shit from your bowels.. which is far more musical, hilarious and sweet smelling..
@MegaJay1227 Hello, thank you for watching and commenting. Yes the target was a mile within 30 seconds. There wasn't much difference in the cars, they were all a point within each other, but the TVR got the closest. Are the other drivers well known?
B GG in respect to the Porsche I have to point out that BBC did rig a tesla to turn off during the review to make it seem like electric motor cars were just a fad.
B GG It probably was. However it wouldn't surprise me if that particular Cerb happened to be more powerful than expected. I remember watching Clarkson's road test and when he lifts the bonnet to show the engine it's clearly not the 4.2 V8 under the bonnet. Apparently the early press cars were insanely fast although nobody ever found out for definite if they actually were more powerful. If I had to guess I'd say they put the full fat race engine in some of them, not the slightly detuned versions the normal road cars were fitted with.
Almighty Potato and it's funny since the Porsches themselves are less expensive mostly, it's basically there will be a much faster car that costs a lot less.
What a blast fom the past! I have this on vhs somewhere, it's classic Clarkson right from the terrible hair, clothes and the god awful music he always uses on his videos!!
if you pay close attention, you can actually tell this is from the 90s
I am glad you told me
I was lost
Nice deduction
I remember watching this about 15-20 years ago and thinking that whoever added that trumpet sound got far too carried away and it just took me back instantly! Windows 98 was a magnificent thing!
it was fine the first time ...like so many awesome moments in my experience ...does not bear repeating
if i was the sound engineer i would have split the tracks and added some pickle to keep it real and i would still have been ridiculed for pasting
That trumpet sound effect has lived rent free in my head for the last 26 years.
Hahahahah its terrible
The top gear song came on Pandora the other day and I had no idea it was a real song instead of just intro music.
Keep your P1's , LaFerrari's and 918's, these cars from the 90's had a soul
TVR CAAAAAAAR
Johan you deam right mate 👌 That TVR tho 👀🔥 but I would still get the Diablo 😅
No computers just man and machine
@@gerrythecarenthusiast sell either and own all these.
All the electronic bs aids n what not in sports cars these days. Is the exact reason that the Noble m600 is my fav and dream sports/super car. Also a 96 viper gts.
Currently my sports car is a 300hp NA stroker 2.8 mustang 2. Fully built motor. DOHC. Covered to EFI with 4 individual throttle bodies of course.
What's with the trumpets? Are we at a final fantasy boss fight?
I still have this on VHS somewhere :) Brings back memories
I used to watch it repeatedly as a 6-7 year old
I have it's great I watch it every week
Had a feature on the new shape fiesta and the latest s class the shape di died in. Started with jezza in an e type.
That Vantage sounds immense.
Well done to TVR for smashing the arse out of that race, don’t care how they did it, fact is they crossed the line well in advance of the rest. Well done Blackpool.
400 odd horsepower, barely a tonne... xD
@@BugattiONE666 exactly! 400+ bhp. Not the meagre 350bhp stated.
@@jimmyfarley5581 Iv Heard 350-360BHP Doubt it's Got 400BHP otherwise it would Have won with a Bigger Gap 😈
@SuperiorNo1 probably has the same engine that they used in the tuscan challenge cars...they were 440bhp....still...kicked that 911s arse..
The HP figures were all over the place until you got it to one of the TVR mapping gurus on it and then all was good. I had a V8 Cerbera and it was the most visceral, exciting and unhinged machine I’ve ever sat in. It would still be an extremely fast car today if it had a similar auto gearbox etc.
DUNDUN DADA-DUUN DAA-DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN!
DUNDUN DADA-DUUN DAA-DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!
Fuck that's in my head for good now.
cybertree I want this to be my text tone
My Dad worked at AML in Newport Pagnell and I’ve always been obsessed with that V8 Vantage. I’ve found myself doing what I used to do as a small child and listening to that scene of the Vantage rev it’s engine on repeat. It brings tears to my eyes that car and I can’t wait to have one in the very near future!
That Aston is just stunningly gorgeous, just so perfect
Doesn't do it for me. I'd take the TVR every time.
-and as much as I adore the Viper, the first generation is a remarkably bewildering achievement of huge weight in a small package. You see one in person and it's rather small dimension wise! ...then you realize it weighs about as much as a dying star.
They really were on a shoestring budget with the 1st Viper tho, even ended up sourcing a few suspension bits from the Dakota pickup! Later generations were SO much better.
At the time though it was the goddamned messiah to Dodge's image problems.
Where it lacks in performance it more than makes up for with sex appeal... Something the rest of this particular line up can't hold a candle too, even the Ferrari at the end
Exactly Steve just purchased a 96 RT/10 Black with silver stripes, Last April and won At 14 out of 15 shows including best in show and also mayors choice award. The body style is timeless and very sexy and draws lots of attention. You could see the car on TH-cam under 96 Dodge Viper black with silver stripes. When it was for sale at BJ Moters and the Viper exchange in Texas. 👍
@@michaelkniazuk6418 in terms of reliability the viper will be going long after the others have packed up! However my favourite car of the bunch is the Aston Martin. Its desperately unreliable and massively overpriced. But its coach built and there was a 600bhp version. TVR admitted that they modified that Cerbera hence its win. A 600bhp Vantage wouldn't have won anyway. But it's my pick. Followed by the Porsche. Speed aside the TVR was poorly made and very unreliable. Noisy, cramped and uncomfortable. How do I know the TVR was modified? Because 350bhp isn't enough to win a mile long drag race.
I guarantee they made that Viper lose on purpose. They hated American cars at the time and when they put it against Euro cars, it couldn't show them up. I've seen races where that Viper beat up hard on a similar Lotus V8 so this just doesn't make sense.
@@jimmyfarley5581 agreed, I also think they forced the Viper to last place. I've seen a race between that Viper and Lotus and the Lotus got smacked more than once by it. Something just doesn't add up here.
Spotted an orange 1997 Cerbera parked in Morrisons carpark today, stunning
Man it's wired seeing these cars again I was a kid when all these were new espcilly the Viper.. :D
Only the americans can get 415 hp from 8 litres
I had this on VHS haha!!! I was always a big TVR fan, so seeing the Cerbera give the competition a sound kicking made my day!!! I know that I always disliked the music these vids used to have but that terrible fanfare tune that plays is far worse than I remembered. It'll haunt my dreams haha!!! It's great seeing this again.
apparently that TVR wasn't exactly normal production spec! rigged.
I have owned 2 TVR's, they love being engaged to a garage where they feel at home.
Love TVr, actually got a cerb too. 0 to 60 in err... 4.2 months right now 😁
Did it make it to 60?
I always loved that Vantage V550 and later V600 back in the day, although now im older I'd take a previous generation oscar india Vantage, same huge V8 sound but much better looking.
As for TVR, I loved the Griffith 500 back then and that would still be my pick now.
Proper british muscle 💪
God the 90sness of this XD
"The moral victor is the Aston Martin"
TVR don't do morals. They just kick everyone's arse.
That TVR was a bit "breathed on", to be fair.
I did and still do love that Aston Martin. It looks brutal! Imagine doing some work on the wheels and tyres, brakes, suspension and inlet/exhaust to liberate another 50 bhp. Fucking stunning!
By The Time He got to the TVR, It was clear Clarkson had run out of shit to say.
Lol.
What he said was enough! 😉
God the Vantage looks like a Battleship in a duckpond. And thats not even the N400 version, with over 600bhp....
I appreciate the age of this video but can you imagine in 2022 a car company producing the brand leading supercar with a 3.5 V8 with 2 turbos! Only making 349bhp! Lol
Wow! Took me straight back the Christmas this came out and I got as a Christmas gift on vhs😂. Now I'll get asked what VHS is😂😂
I had a cerbera 4.5 , god i loved that car
Wish I could have one in the U.S
@@alexrios1737 buy one in Canada, drive it over the border, and one day a year take it back to Canada.. All legal..
what made you get rid of it ?
Gareth T what’s your honest owners take on it having hindsight? Good buy or expensive mistake? Garage time off the road as truthful as they try to make out?
The Cerbera is officially over 20 years old, so you can now legally import it to America as a classic car.
Tvr are coming back. Cossie tuned engines & joined up with ford
I really love that first Aston Vantage. If there was one car in the world I would like to have its that one. So good looking.
The Vantage lost to a 350bhp Lotus! I'm gutted
had this on VHS when i was a kid, that music brings back so many memories😂😂
Drift MasterFlex so did i :) takes me back to when i was 4
Surely in a proper race the TVR, Lotus and Aston Martin should have all broken down before the start? I do love that Aston though.
The 90s cars are truly living entities of automobile.
Viper my love
the old vantage seems so much better than the newer ones. TWIN SUPERCHARGED??!!
TVR power
That TVR absolutely annihilated that Dodge viper and the viper is an 8 litre and the TVR only a 4.2.
But dont we all remember this tvr had the Tuscan 4.5ltr race engine and near 400bhp and 400ft/lbs of torque. Although the Cerb was fantastic with the 4.2.
The Cerbera was always surprisingly fast in gran turismo lol
thats not even the quickest cerbera lol the 4.5l has another 50+ hp
eatthisvr6 actual 4.2's had around 350, 4.5s had around 390-400. This one had a Tuscan race car engine with over 400bhp. A standard one might still have won, but not by this margin. TVR was generally not very truthful on power outputs.
Deep_Dive I think a lot of early Cerbs had that race spec engine to start with. Have you seen the Top Gear road test with JC from around this time? When he lifts the bonnet you can see the claimed “4.2” has what appears to be carbon inlet trumpets like the silicone ones fitted on a typical 4.5.
Deep_Dive Really? The AJP 8 engines came in two standard configurations, a 4.2 producing about 360 bhp and a 4.5 producing about 420. The ‘red rose’ version made about 440bhp. This was no one off special.
My little 3.6 FFF makes nigh on 400bhp and that’s not hype, it’s fact. The Al Melling speed six and speed 8 engines are still phenomenally quick when compared with today’s exotica. It’s such a shame that after Jeremy Clarkson fell out with Perter Wheeler he insisted on slagging off TVRs at every opportunity, particularly on reliability issues.
There is nothing like a TVR, a car that you have to drive not be driven by.
G-R-S well said! You speak the truth
the later models had 440 bhp with the 4.5 @@deep_dive6699
No way the TVR would've won, that was secretly tuned! Performance figures are for the 4.5 not 4.2 aswell.
How I would have liked the Vantage V600 to race to even things out! Yes the Vantage would still have lost but I don't care.
The V8 Vantage was the winner! Well, in my book anyway. But the others were cool too. And the TVR was mega fast.
The Vantage could not be the greatest car in the world because it's not a Ferrari? Surely Mr. Clarkson was was joking with us? 😊
Good ol' days when 4 out of 6 of the fastest and madest cars were British
That Aston though...............😳
That Aston Martin is basically a Volvo coupe with a massive v8 and I love it.
looks wise, for sure, good spot, but then many BMWs since used the proportions of the Rover 600 when they bought the company and killed it
Geezus, that stats music is bad....
+DashCam UK And the most annoying
I happen to love this music jerk ass
jamie allen u mad lol
It goes hard
This came out in 1996😂
Almost unreal how pretty cars used to be.
all the good cars from GranTurismo 2 :D only Porsche has not the balls to put the car to GT2
Cerbera was my favorit in the game, and the race FTO :D
yes Gran Turismo make a good work !
It was probably EA's fault since they have the monopoly of Porsche cars licenses... Like they did when Forza 4 was in development and EA didn't wanted the cars to be included in the game.
Mr. Lince I've been playing GT2 and I forgot how much I loved the Cerbera. Btw Porsche had a contract with EA that only recently ran out which meant games that weren't under EA couldn't use Porsche or they'll be sued. That's why Porsche hasn't been in GT and other games but it was always in Forza.
There were Porsches, but they were rebranded as RUF.
@@Human1league RUFs are real cars. They are basically Porsches on steroids
All the times he took the piss out of Hammond for wearing cowboy boots 😂
Its like I am playing some RPG on a Super NES with that kind of music and editing.
TVR almost certainly modified that Cerbera, but who cares because it's still ridiculously fast stock as well (statistically faster than a Diablo SV)
That Aston steering wheel looks a lot like the one in the Mustang of the same era.
Jonhy Marquez it’s the same steering wheel.
Shame the 4.5 cerbera wasn't around to compete instead of the 4.2
The average super car now in 2021 are only about a second faster than they were then
Ok so in 2022 can you honestly imagine a 1300kg car (including driver) running low diameter tyres with little width. A basic unaided traction system and a manual gearbox, smashing a 0-60 in 4 seconds and the 100mph in 9 seconds whilst producing a paltry 350bhp! Seriously! Yes its light but not that light. The wheels and tyres are tiny. The bhp is "only " 350. Add a slow manual gearbox. Do the math.
back when engines sounded like engines... 2 words.....induction noise
Wow, thanks for that insider info! I was 11 when I was first watched this video and I was amazed that the TVR was fastest while being half the price of the other cars. But I didn't used to know that to achieve a claimed 0-60 time on a manual car you have to really thrash it in a way you wouldn't want if you owned it. So I guess the real-world overall fastest car is really the 911 Turbo?
No 😂 The TVR is clearly faster
that fucking music :P
Who is the idiot that thought it was good repeating it like fifty times lol
giovelano I know right? lol I'm going to hear that music in my sleep now. (Reminds me of the oldschool 8bit nintendo video game music.)
DUNDUN DADA-DUUN DAA-DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN!
DUNDUN DADA-DUUN DAA-DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!
terrible lol
giovelano Don't know why that comment was removed as spam, but i restored it lol
cerbera ... oh god i wanted one soooo bad ... i saw one up north getting a shift on ... the noise was visceral ...the view of it going off was like a 30`s hand wound film ... faster than you would believe
@jayscaterham Hi thanks for commenting. Was he driving in the actual race? The Caterham did beat the Viper to the end, which was incredible. If you notice, the Caterham did have an early start in the race, plus it has a good power to weight ratio, than most of the other cars. Do you know any of the other drivers there on that day?
I do agree some what to your comment, as this race counted towards aerodynamics, rather than the skills of the drivers. But then again, the Viper did have the biggest engine, yet only produced 415BHP - which to me is not a lot.
I know this is an old comment, but it should be mentioned the viper v10 engine was designed to optimize torque, and it certainly did that with nearly 500 lb-ft of it.
i knew the tvr was going to win that race all along lmao
God, the 993 Turbo is a sexy car.
Still love the Viper most
the best for me, is the music
What's the music at the start?
I remember thinking that Porsche with 402 bhp, better traction off the line should have won coz the Cerbera only has 350 bhp but the 911 weighs 1500 kgs and the Cerbera weighs only 1100 kgs. Thats 400 kgs lighter! Thats massive and if you factor in the TVRs amazing aerodynamics that probably helped it top end. Remember this is a mile long race. Dunno what max speed these cars reached but it must have been very very high. TVR does a12.2 quarter mile and the 911 does 12.5. Im guessing these cars must have been up over 150-160 mph when they crossed the line.
I seriously doubt the Porsche is 400kgs heavier than the TVR. 250kgs perhaps. Anyway many years later TVR finally admitted to what everyone was thinking and said the car in that race had a race engine. The TVR produced close to 450bhp. Not the 350bhp claimed. TVR actually admitted this. Why? Because a 1300kg car (fuelled with driver) on skinny 17 inch wheels, a so so manual gearbox, no limited slip differential and a paltry 350bhp ain't doing the performance times the car in the video did. It wouldn't have beaten the 911. Unlikely to beat the "almost " as light torque fest Lotus. And does a better power to weight ratio beat the Aston over a mile? 350bhp vs 550bhp. Perhaps the TVR would beat the Aston but by such a large margin? Not with 350bhp it wouldn't.
@@jimmyfarley5581 that makes sense. That TVR seemed way too quick for 350 bhp even despite its light weight. 450 bhp sounds more accurate.
who remembers the Lotus Esprit, from their Patagonia special ?
I feel like they sandbagged the viper... It really is quite fast
Can’t believe the caterham beat the viper over a mile!
I can, the Viper is a terrible car.
Clarkson at his .. best .. prime .. >) ..
R.I.P TVR .. ?!? .. >) ..
I first saw this when I was 8 years old and I wanted a TVR my whole life but when I was 22 my Dad wouldn’t let me buy one because of the lack of airbags. I went on to write off a Cayman S Black Edition and a 911 GTS before, after which point I drove a Fiat 500c Abarth for 3 years... so I could teach myself what it was like to drive a car without writing it off! I now have a C63 507 - I will NEVER part with it. I will always regret not owning/wonder what it would be like to drive a 4.5 Cerbera - for me one of the SICKEST cars ever made! EVER! That Vantage also. WOW! This lot over any current car, including a 488 Pista or a Rimac (yawn)... ANY DAY!
Caterham i like how you can hear the Caterham over everything but the aston :'D
RIP TVR you will be missed
TVRs always won these drag races in the 90s
I'm 11 and first time watching 😆😆😆😆
Nay2003 AKA350ZRULES nobody cares pussyhole
hahaha.
Nay2003 AKA350ZRULES keep going man !!! Ignore such loosers ! 🥃🤘🏻🎩🏁🇮🇲
The TVR Cerbera was still a production car, and as he said those "specialty cars" were things like the McLaren F1 and Jaguar XJ220 which were only produced in small numbers and cost hundreds of thousands.
On Jeremy's 'Most Outrageous' dvd of around the same time as this he had the TVR Speed 12. It always annoys me that he wasn't able to race it against something. It never made it into production but still would loved to have seen it happen! A TVR with over twice the BHP as this one? Lol. Now we will never know.
White and blue one? That was the Tuscan speed 12 or project 7/12 and was handful lol. Sacrificed I believe to make the Cerbera speed 12. Which scared peter wheeler to much and he decided not to sell it. And I think it was sacrficed to keep the cerb speed 12 race cars going. Thankfully though both race cars are now road cars. The 1st is red and has the big v12 from the original road car. Race cars were detuned cos of rules and i don't think any are left? It now lives in the lakeland museum and gets taken out on the rare occasion. I think rarely cos it's the only speed 12 engine left. The 2nd car is purple and is more likely to be driven around as it has a tuned aston v12. And both have the race car bodywork with the extra vents. The guy who built both did have the original road car bodywork. But sold it on ebay a while back. Also there is a tribute speed 12 built by helical, now known as TR. Their's I believe is a low volume production car and also has a tuned aston v12 which pushes out over 1000hp. They have a website with details and the 2 ex-racers have a dedicated fb page called speed 12. Also wasn't that the video with the Jaguar xjr-15? That looked like a handful to.
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"The vantage manages to be competitive without losing any of it's majesty, I say as I grip my mustang steering wheel and corvette shifter
I really doubt it's a mustang steering wheel. It's an ugly, oversized steering wheel I'll grant you but back in the days where Aston Martin coach built its cars (as was the case with the Vantage) I'm sure they were more than capable of making their own steering wheel when charging triple figures for the car. Yes it used a Corvette gearbox. Why? It's a strong, reliable and cheap gearbox. A gearbox that's able to cope with the power being put through it. Remember this is before dual clutch and flappy paddles. Lots of cars use the ZF gearbox. I bet the Lotus and TVR had a ZF gearbox too! And the viper. It's a good gearbox.
@@jimmyfarley5581 it is a good gearbox, I was mainly saying it as a joke but that is 100% a ford steering wheel, no doubt about it. I have the same one in my foxbody mustang. And the viper actually uses a t56, another great and very common gearbox 😀
@@calincampbell5637 I know for a fact that the Aston Martin, TVR and Lotus are all horrifically unreliable cars. Although the Viper lost I bet it's by far the most reliable. Especially its engine. The viper V10's if looked after are pretty much bulletproof. The same can't be said for the other cars in the race. Especially the British built cars!
@@calincampbell5637 now I think about it Aston Martin nearly went into administration and ford saved them. Much of the switchgear was ford to. Imagine paying 120k for an Aston Martin back in 1995 ( I dread to think what that is today with adjusted inflation) and it having lots of ford parts! The suspension was a design from the 1960's! Mechanically the Vantage was garbage. I loved it for its looks. Imagine it with proper suspension and ceramic brakes, shod with 20 inche alloys (originals were 18's). With fat exhausts instead of the tiny pea shooters it came with. Stunning
@@jimmyfarley5581 I actually really like the vantage of the next generation, but I would never own one
Tvr official spec :350bhp
Tvr sent to the TV drag race: 450bhp. :D
I've never believed that "race engine" story as the 4.5 Red Rose had around 440bhp anyway. They may have lied that it was the 4.2 and sent a 4.5 instead, but I highly doubt it was a race engine.
He said "hypercar"! That was back in the 1990s.
I own this on vhs
What kind of rims are those on the Viper?
The OEM of the first gen Viper
Lotus done alright ☺ So UK 1st Germany 2nd UK 3rd 😆
Omg that fucking music gets so old
As pretty as it is. The Viper was an under achiever in it's first incarnation.
The GTS hard top came later and of course the competition was ready for that as well ,but they as beautiful.
The TVR was one of those specialty cars he said didn't belong in this production car class ,which is why many people still don't know what they were.
It's not a specialty car, you can buy them on Auto trader for fifteen hundred quid
@@EthanDavies yeah right….. if you can find one for 1500 quid I will happily buy it off you 🤔
Lol, guarantee that Viper driver slowed down. I've seen races where the Lotus gets smoked by the gen 1 Viper. Guarantee they wanted the Viper to lose on purpose because they didn't respect US cars. It would have come in 3rd if it was a fair race.
Which pixel is Clarkson?
You do realize 4K hasn't been invented in 1997, do you? 😒
Viper ftw
Despite the Dodge coming last, in terms of engine at least, it's by far the most reliable.
@Colin Gregson is it not?
@Colin Gregson the TVR is comically unreliable. As is the Lotus. The Aston Martin isn't far behind. I thought the Viper would have been quite reliable, with its iron block and single cam.
@@jimmyfarley5581 "the TVR is comically unreliable" Have you owned one? No because if you had, you wouldn't post such bullshit.
I've owned one for 14 years, done almost 60000 miles in it and it's broken down precisely once. By comparison, my VW has broken down 3 times in the 4 years I've had it.
@@kingcurry6594 wow Mr angry has joined the chat. No I haven't owned a TVR. Yes it's because I can't afford a TVR. However a close friend of mine had a Tuscan and it was nothing but trouble. So that's my experience with TVR. Also I'm yet to read an "Autocar " "Auto Express " or "Evo Magazine " review that's praised the reliability and build quality of TVR. It's OK to be a passionate owner that has fastidiously cared for their car but the overall consensus isn't dependable reliability. I'd like to know your thoughts on the Lotus and Aston (neither of which I've owned) but I said were unreliable. Ironic how all 3 were British built at the time.
I wunder what speeds they all hit at the finish line? It should of said just to see how close they got to there top speed over that 1 mile flat stretch
The nostalgia is too damn high
6:42 The Aston had a shitty steering wheel that you could find in every Ford back then...
True, but only in the US, so most folks in the UK probably thought it was bespoke!
I just absolutely love that music every time he introduces the next car.. not irritating at all.. nope.. just thrilling and beautiful like the gorgeous sounds of releasing gas and shit from your bowels.. which is far more musical, hilarious and sweet smelling..
LOL 😂
No surprise that the Porsche was right there with the Cerbera.
I think if the viper wasn't a convertible it would've done much better. Imagine that wind on the driver.
@MegaJay1227 Hello, thank you for watching and commenting. Yes the target was a mile within 30 seconds. There wasn't much difference in the cars, they were all a point within each other, but the TVR got the closest. Are the other drivers well known?
1996. 1995 he did a crashes video
i laugh at all of the porsche fan boys who cant handle that they lost to a car that is less than half its price
+B GG lol
+B GG and that wasn't even the 4.5
B GG in respect to the Porsche I have to point out that BBC did rig a tesla to turn off during the review to make it seem like electric motor cars were just a fad.
B GG It probably was. However it wouldn't surprise me if that particular Cerb happened to be more powerful than expected. I remember watching Clarkson's road test and when he lifts the bonnet to show the engine it's clearly not the 4.2 V8 under the bonnet. Apparently the early press cars were insanely fast although nobody ever found out for definite if they actually were more powerful. If I had to guess I'd say they put the full fat race engine in some of them, not the slightly detuned versions the normal road cars were fitted with.
Almighty Potato and it's funny since the Porsches themselves are less expensive mostly, it's basically there will be a much faster car that costs a lot less.
What a blast fom the past! I have this on vhs somewhere, it's classic Clarkson right from the terrible hair, clothes and the god awful music he always uses on his videos!!
awful music I'll grant you that, but Clarkson looked mint.
TVR ist BEST!
brings back memories
I think he sounds and looks much better than he does now I miss those good times
Did they steal this music from a Nintendo cut scene?