1851 Navy Cartridge Conversion
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 เม.ย. 2021
- In this video we discuss an example of an 1851 Navy cartridge conversion, the differences between 38 Colt and 38 Special, along with some competition at the local Back Up Gun Match with it.
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I love videos where Karl is shooting old west guns. He just seems so much happier and excited in those videos
Well, they’re just generally happier and more exciting guns.
Shoot dam gun 😂
Black powder is my favorite content on your channel and i love your resistance to the big money media
From the state of Arizona came an InRange vid one day....
Started talkin' bout conversions
Had quite a lot to say
@@TalonAvalon No one dared to flag the content, no one dared dislike the clip, for Karl stood there before them with a Big Iron on his hip....
@@jimmyrustler8983 _BIG IRON ON HIS HIIIIIIIIIIP!_
As a .38, wouldn't it be MEDIUM iron?
@@Devin_Stromgren The size of the iron isn't governed by what you feed it, it's still a big ol' gun. 🤙
I appreciate your work in that your range presentations aren't just shooting and talking about the manufacturer. But talking about the culture around the gun, even if not historically significant.
Karl taking first place with a single action against a bunch of guys with double actions just points put that he's a guy you can trust when it comes to this topic
Yes. But.
It was against 2 guys, not "a bunch"
He also beat a whole bunch of guys with, I’m assuming, much more modern semi-automatic pistols.
@@andrewallason4530 It's also a Backup Match. It's intentionally set up for Elmer Keith's law: "If I need more than 6 shots;* I'm probably already dead." Tactical/Practical courses have a lot of targets, and Reloads intended in the total time. This kind of thing was not viable as a Military sidearm in World War I, but plenty of people went into that conflict with Webleys, and the like. It was still just fine for personal defense. Nowadays, an NAA Mini with the same manual of arms is "Adequate." Might want a knife with that, but you get the idea: There's so many different kinds of guns, because there's so many different kinds of fights.
*That was from a Gun's Digest artical where he was specifically asked why he still carried a wheel gun in the era of autos. The full quote was 6 shots of .357 magnum.
@@Psiberzerker all of which means any argument over caliber, capacity, effective range etc is a moot point, as it really depends on one’s individual determination of need as to their theoretical / potential uses of the firearm based on a risk / benefit / cost framework ( what type of incident am I likely to encounter vs. what type of firearm will I need to resolve that risk to my self, family etc, vs. how cumbersome is the firearm(s) of choice in my daily routine).
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"When you have to shoot, shoot; don't talk"
---Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez
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One of my favorite scenes in any movie 🤣
Otherwise known as: ELI WALLAC. Great actor.
Known as the rat.
@@beowulf1944
Good idea. I'm goin' to watch it tonight.
The ugly
When I see you have posted black powder or black powder adjacent content, I drop what I’m doing and watch immediately. Keep it up.
The Colt Navy is, hands down, the prettiest gun ever made. Old fashioned styling meets industrial precision.
Colt dragoon for me
@@henryofskalitz2228 1860 Army
@@varanid9 Not a fan of the rounded barrel, I like the octagonal style.
Not even speaking about Gun TH-cam, but TH-cam as a whole: It's really sad watching channels and personalities you like chasing after sponsorships and partnerships and losing their magic and becoming yet another marketing mouthpiece. I certainly don't blame them, its the nature of the beast and a person needs to make a living, but its why I admire channels like InRange that refuse to bow to the TH-cam's monetization racket (while still showcasing companies and products that are relevant and interesting). I also appreciate your ability to acknowledge the viewer base and power of TH-cam as a platform despite your disagreements and understanding you have to follow TH-cam's rules. It's not easy I'm sure and frustrating as hell, but things worth doing usually aren't easy.
Thanks for the eclectic and diverse firearms content that isn't just tactical/operator/AR porn mixed with political jingoism masquerading as patriotism, as if civil war is something to look forward to. But that's the point right? Build up the fear to sell your shit while the guys peddling it, laugh all the way to bank.
I love shooting but I'm embarrassed to acknowledge it because we associate shooting sports with crazy FUDD, militia, molon labe types (Always thought it was hilarious that the same dudes that unironically say Molon Labe and revere Spartans, also are raging homophobes) Channels like InRange are truly gems in the rough in that sense. Appreciate the work you do Karl, both on screen and behind the scenes!
Wow, thank you!
Just hold up there mister. As a Vietnam veteran I believe I am a de facto FUDD. Though I agree whole heartedly with your sentiments as I am weary of visions of high speed low drag wannabes with their ample waistlines jiggling beneath their overly accessorized plate carriers as they LARP through private kill houses or up the steps of the Capitol. I am equally weary of those so strident about the right to own firearms systematically suppressing the right to vote. As much as I agree with your description of In Range as an island of depth, independence and diversity in a monolithic TH-cam gun channel world I suggest that going forward you address me and those like me as Mr FUDD. Show some respect to your elders.
@@InrangeTv As a young man in his mid-20s, I still feel guilty that I'm one of those who can't afford to donate a few bucks on Patreon (cause Lord knows channels like yours deserve support) but I gotta pay bills and save money for school. As such the least I can honestly do, is to leave a comment of my appreciation of your work and channel Karl.
@@Chiller01
I'm a minority who's the son of hard working, religious immigrants.
I take care of my elderly parents and I volunteer at my local church working with kids.
I tithe and donate a chunk of my wages to charitable causes, because it was instilled in my through church, though I mostly do it because I think its important to give and help whatever you can, whenever you can.
When I use to deliver flowers, I'd even go out of my way to chat with lonely elderly customers who were in retirement homes and hospitals (For real though people, if you gonna buy someone flowers, at least deliver them in person. Especially if they elderly and in hospice or an elderly home)
Point being, you're free to say whatever you want, but nothing gets me more riled up than someone who demands my respect. Especially over telling me to respect my elders as if that wasn't quite literally beaten into me as a child.
I respect your opinions (and quite honestly agree with you wholeheartedly) and I also acknowledge and thank you for your service in Vietnam (Lord knows when I watch Vietnam footage, I think about the fact that I am now a few years older than most of those kids holding M-16s)
I'm sorry if my comment about FUDDs triggered you, but in the context of my original comment, I was mostly referring to those good ole boys who call themselves hunters when all they mean is that they like to go in the woods to get shit faced before handling guns. The same exact good ole boys who don't wear safety vests and think its hilarious to break as many basic firearm safety rules at once. The same good ole boys who'd call me a chink in real life and then go off to praise "Rooftop Koreans" in the comments of gun videos.
I totally am able to recognize there's plenty of older shooters out there who just wanna enjoy their hunts without any of the "frat boy" mentality, but maybe you shouldn't identify as a FUDD? You're only inviting bad comparisons if the term you self identify with, is derived from a children's cartoon character who's known for being clumsy and a bit dopey.
I sincerely hope that clarifies my stance a bit more and I genuinely have no interest in starting internet comment fights, especially seeing as we're basically on the same page otherwise. Stay safe, stay happy yall!
@@CHPMP5 I’m pretty sure Chiller’s comment was tongue in cheek and he’s not actually demanding to be called “Mr. Fudd” as a form of respect LOL. Bottom line we are on the same page.
When I first took my cc permit back when I was just turned 21 the only pistol I had at that exact second was a ruger vaquero single action and I actually finished the shooting portion of my test faster than anyone who didn't have enough spare mags to not need to load loose ammo into mags.
I did the same with a Ruger Security Six.
An elegant weapon for a more civilized age
"Yeah, well guess what? Times have changed." Republic Commando 0138 "Boss", Star Wars Republic Commando.
For a LESS CIVILICED age.
@@quint3ssent1a the old west was way more civilized than modern times
@@TheBoyBanditKing1911 Not really tho
@@deletdis6173 I believe it was
Really excited for the LeMat! Definitely my favorite handgun of the civil war era, and one of the most unique firearms of all time, it's a shame they didn't catch on.
Yeah, I'm kinda curious, his LeMat would be a bonafide cap'n'ball one, right? Because, despite being popular in vidya and keeno (hunt showdown comes to mind), cartridge LeMats weren't a thing.
I look forward to see Karl suffering with reload of nine chambers plus the central shotgun barrel.
The European produced LeMats had a ton of quality control issues, and they were expensive. Truth be told, even the most produced confederate revolvers only totaled about 3500 units by war’s end. Nothing really “caught on”. The confederacy was simply trying to get their hands on whatever weapons they could.
Beautiful handgun, history lesson, shooting to watch, ballistics information and Karl talking with passion - what more could one want?
Fantastic video, love this sort of content, thanks for sharing!
P.S. Can't wait to see the LeMat!!
I love how you talked about the details of this gun. The significant info in loading it, shooting it. No other chitchat and goes straight to the point. And the way you show how you shoot it as if it was used in a gunfight? Its far more interesting than most videos i have watched about this iconic revolver.(no offense meant to the others) Keep it up! Have a sub!
Love the coverage of these historical pieces. Well done again
I appreciate all the historical firearm fun you have. Thanks to your black powder videos I have been able to get my dad interested in my hobby. We have a blunderbuss on the way and I just wanted to say thanks.
Thank you! to everyone that donates through patreon so a poor guy like myself can enjoy amazing content like this! You are all amazing!
Always great to see another video from you, Karl! Happy to be one of your patreons!
Much appreciated!
Thanks Karl for the great content. The black powder and old west gun stuff you've been doing is very interesting.
Great content. Your focus on Old West revolvers has been both informative and fun. Keep up the great work.
Love it! Thanks for the walk down memory lane. Back when I first signed on the Police Force in my home town we were issued the Model 19 Smith & Wesson with 4 inch barrel as a duty firearm. For reloading, we had a choice of loops or dump boxes, I took the loops at first because I liked the look but later moved to dump box, and when they came available to speed loaders. We qualified every 90 days and were issued 3 boxes of wad cutters for practice in between qualifications. We had a small outdoor pistol range just over the hill from the grave yard (no noise complaints from there!) and since the keys to the range were on the squad car's key ring we could access it for practice any time we wished, after some time I talked the boss into letting us each get a key so we could practice off duty and that went over very well. When I got into reloading, myself and another officer decided to try inverted hallow based wadcutters as the ultimate hollow point and loaded them up with bullseye powder to get the speed up a bit. Then my buddy observed that there was a LOT of room in that inverted hollow point and began dropping a couple grains of bullseye with a large pistol primer inserted over the charge, then sealing it with his wife's nail polish (man did he get his ass chewed by her when she found herself without nail polish when dressing for the annual policeman's ball!) thus getting us a sort of exploding round. We never got much performance out of the attempt and later gave up on the whole idea, but it was a fun experiment, and we could get a boom when shooting rocks or old tire rims from the town dump. Back then nobody gave a thought that we qualified with those light loaded .38 wadcutters but carried full magnum ammo for duty and in our belts. That all came later after a good look at police shootings, and the impact of training on the officers when the shit hit the fan, such as dead officers with empty cases in their pockets, a habit from the range of policing the brass after the round of shooting. Ah but those were the good old days, I guess.
Hell yeah I've been waiting for these. Thanks again Karl for another rad video.
Glad you like them!
@@InrangeTv I really enjoy the BUG matches, it's a very practical oriented drill. And gives us, the viewers, a great opportunity to see cool revolvers, since bringing one to a proper match would impractical. And you keep it informative, instead of just another "gun porn" video.
lovely stuff. I'll never tire of black powder content.
Really enjoying this video. Just getting into the 51/61 pistols. Answered MANY of the questions I have. Thanks for that!!
This backup gun match is a really fun way to see some weird stuff on the clock (looking forward to the LeMat).
Great content, sir. You are one of the most articulate presenters on TH-cam. Keep it coming and thanks.
+1 for using the proper one-hand shooting technique. It's probably because I'm a dipshit, but it drives me crazy when I see people shoot period guns using modern techniques. Again, probably my own flaw.
And I thought I was the only one. Liked.
I agree
I enjoy this content. Thanks for helping clarify the origins of 38 special.
Love it. I would love to see you run/make a stage or two with like minded people running single shot rifles (like the Martini/Hennery and the like). Obviously it would have to have WAY lower round count, but that could be interesting putting the various period rifles on the clock and seeing how things shake out.
InRange is hands down my favorite gun channels anywhere. I love that you are all over the place with your styles of content and diverse voices.
Im not normally interested in these type of videos but i always watch to support and im definitely watching, liking and commenting on this to spite 'the algorithm' !!!
Much love from ireland
Another great video Karl. Thanks for making such a diversity of content. Always something interesting coming from you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Back in my feed and subscriptions. Thanks for the great content Karl.
I like these old Revolvers and I love this channel.
Great videos as always!
Excellent video, Karl! Thank you. I have always been fascinated by the "transitional" and conversion Colts, Remingtons, etc... that was a turbulent era in firearms design. Someday, I may have a (replica) conversion 1851, or 1860...
Beautiful piece, love those grips. Looks very fun to shoot. Thanks!!
Outstanding video, Karl! Thanks!
Thank you. I have missed Inrange putting up regular posts.
There were multiple videos this week...
Interesting revolver and info. Love the grips...is the card design actually in relief or is that just an illusion of the graphics??
It's part of the grip, in relief.
@@InrangeTv That's cool! Thanks🤠🤠👍👍
My "almost-local" reference store has all different aces to choose from. I think hose grips are easily found in gun stores in Spain, with many more (don't know about the rest of Europe, but since most of those revolvers are made in Italy...), probably because black powder replicas are one of the few handguns "easily" available and less strictly regulated, being Navy pattern revolvers one of the most popular.
I would say Navys are close second to Remington Army reproductions, since Santa Barbara made those in Spain until someone decided in 1993 you needed to have a permit for muzzleloaders, too.
Now they want to forbid lead bullets, so I don't know how (when?) it's going to end.
You are a great guy Karl, thank you the excellent content!
this is a great and sincere channel
Its great to see you competing with a conversion. One way I have shot B.P. is to load a full, primed case with 3-f, take a round ball run it into a crimping die and seat it. The die shaves the sides to give a flat that the crimp grabs the ball and you have the cheapest B.P. center fire load
Does this crimp create enough pressure?
Never saw this in my feed. Had to rectify the issue and watch!
Thanks!
Excellent video, been wondering about this for a long time.
Again I learn some new & interesting facts about pistol history. Thxs.
Love watching these old-school videos. 38 special is such a sweet shooting cartridge, light recoil, good speed and easy to reload.
Love this channel ♥️👍 thanks and keep up the good work.
Im very excited to see the other old pistols you will be bringing to the channel
I could be wrong, but I think I can see the rounds going downrange, that's wild to see! Love this kind of content!
Thanks for the great video Karl.
Excellent video. Thanks Carl
Glad you enjoyed it
Love love this... great video
Glad you made us aware of this video. Good job.
Thanks for watching!
So excited for the Lemat revolver! It's one of those guns that I'm fascinated with that I can never get enough of.
Great presentation, thanks Karl.
Love the old west content so much, super excited for lemat video
Funniest part about that is the .38 Short Colt ended up being used as a gamer cartridge for ICORE and USPSA.
And .45 Long Colt is equivalent to .45 ACP by all standard measurements.
@@badlaamaurukehu Not when you load it to original specs. Original ammo has been clocked at 1200fps in 7.5" barrels.
@@mkultraification that seems a lot hotter than 45ACP!
@@GlockamoleG17 how do you know if your firearm can handle these higher loads? Especially if it didn't come with a manual?
@@DollyRanch It didn’t hit 1200, but
I have seen my friend load .44-40 to 950 measured over a chronograph from a 4” Merwin and Hulbert, so you can absolutely get .45 Colt into the 900s and it is more powerful than .45 ACP by a fair amount
Thank you Karl! Always a pleasure!
Rich.
My pleasure!
historical conversions are cool, love these videos, karl
Interesting content, Karl. More videos like this would be welcome and watchable. Bring 'em on!
More to come!
all content is fair and fun so keep it up as you are able
Love the old west content! Can’t wait for the rest!
Quality video, commenting for engagement to see if it helps with video spread, best of luck
First place! Way to go there cowboy. Love the diversity of this channel.
Just bought my first single action. Now I want more. Got really excited when I saw the notification for this video
Hope you enjoy it!
@@InrangeTv I did very much!
Great video sir
the navy is honestly my favorite old colt, i love the slick octagon barrel and mount
neat ! really cool discussion of this conversion
Interesting video, I've always been interested in a cap and ball reproduction. The cartridge conversion history is fascinating.
Very interested to see a future video on the colt walker
Another great Old West video!!!!!!!!!!
I've got a Cimarron "Man with No Name" Colt Navy conversion in .38 Special. It is, without a doubt, my very favorite pistol to shoot. Absolute joy to fire, and remarkably accurate.
Great historic content.
Damn TH-cam didn't alert me despite the fact I'm subscribed and have the alert bell on.
Yep.
That's why I'm the habit of just checking frequently. The alerts for both InRange and Forgotten Weapons never come.
Came here because of your Shadow ban post. I love the fact that you point out historical accuracy.
The moment 𝙸 saw the thumbnail, 𝙸 was thinking of the "Ace of Spades" hand cannon from Destiny 2. Also, great video as always sir.
I’m glad you posted the picture of shadow banning
Great video
this stuff is very interesting, keep it up
I enjoy shooting old and new! Old Winchesters and Colt percussion revolvers are what I grew up shooting. The Old West era guns that Carl shows in real competition are extremely fun to watch!
Big YES to Old West stuff!
Waiting for the Le Mat.
The shadowbanning is nutz. I saw this post on Patreon and clicked. It would be a pretty easy browser plugin to rewrite the subscriptions feed to actually pull the real subscriptions' latest content. I did a quick check and couldn't find anything. Thankyou for bringing the issue more to light.
Beautiful gun and great video. As time has gone on I've come to the same conclusion regarding revolvers and why things like single actions have stuck around. While many are not my forte as I just don't have any major interest in most single actions, I think its namely due to the Single Action Army but other designs were always interesting and really appreciated things like the Schofields and the Remington 1858's.
Surprising result. Fun video
Great job
Excellent presentation. .38 Special makes so much sense because .38 Special will be available for a long time.
Great video 👍👍👌
💪 finally shows in my recommended
I had one built from a percussion revolver, really a cool gun.
Gotta love those conversion revolvers. I have two (1851 & 1860) that I converted with the Kirst kits. It's nice to be able to switch between the cartridge cylinders and the percussion cylinders. When I go to the range, people become intrigued when they see me loading cartridges into what they see as a cap and ball revolver, and I get the....."what kinda gun is that?". THEN the explaining starts lol.
That's a very interesting gun, I like the idea doing a period-accurate conversion of a replica. Looks fun to shoot too.
The man is gonna bring a Walker to the channel. What more can you ask for?
Pretty cool. I have shot a lot of .38 special wadcutters in my day. A very nice cartridge and better for personal defense than most folks give it credit for.
Didn't the LAPD use it in the 60s
I never knew they had conversion kits back then. thank you
I honestly don't have a huge interest in revolvers, let alone old ones like this, but these videos are still always so cool to watch and always end up watching them entirely.
I’m glad this video got sorted out. I wonder what YT problem was with it? I love that you are doing more wheel guns
been trying to share your channel with my friends, been also trying to share some other historical community channels with my friends as well. it seems that the best places to share historical community channels is in/through games/apps having to deal with history.
Maybe a fella was just in love with that frame. Man I freaking love a Navy Colt. There is just something about an open top Colt. They handle so well. I even like the hammer notch sights. That conversion Karl's shooting makes my heart palpate.
I don't care much for modern firearms, but I love the old west guns. I'm lucky to have someone like Karl on TH-cam!
We are going to TAHITI!