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I dremeled the air units open on my original pair in 89 or 90. Completely opened them up,just to see. Front air unit was definitely bigger in the original. I still miss those shoes. Also I didn't know that eventually there would be an entire culture of people who appreciate shoes as much as I did. I have catalogs and a signed letter from Nike and Tinker from the 80s. I wrote to them in Beaverton as an 11 year old and they sent me catalogs for shoe stores and all kinds of cool pamphlets. Was very, very nice of them.
I salute you for choosing to cut a pricier OG colorway instead of choosing a more affordable recent colorway like the Midnight Navy, quality wise and closer to the OGs.
It's a myth that the og colorways are using any better material. It's usually just people thinking more tumbled = higher quality. It isn't, it just looks less like plastic.
Really doesn’t matter what colorway was used. None of the retro 4s are true to the OG 89’s in terms of construction, quality and tech specs. Nike has cheapened the shoe in retro form big time. He’s right, the retro 4 is a toy shoe, whereas in 1989 it was an actual performance shoe.
Oddly enough I have 3 pairs of 4s and Imo the best quality ones is my J4 Fiba by far, ugly ass hell but they promoted it as more premium and it is. Better leather compared to my Taupe Haze and my Breds
@@Trebor-gw8lt exactly. Imagine 40 years from now. They will look at the way of the wade shoe the same just given the technology. Shit ai probably gonna tell us we been wrong this whole time with performance lol
I simply love the look of the 4’s, however, I ultimately ALWAYS avoid buying resell. Not just for these, but for EVERY shoe. It’s not worth the extra cash. Other color ways and collabs will pop up. Waiting on it won’t kill you, but that potential 1000% price hike might
It really depends on the shoe IMO. Consider Chicago 1s. There's nothing rational about paying resell for those. But paying resell is often the only way to get Chicago 1s and it's probably one of the most desirable shoes/colourways out there. So while it's definitely not worth paying resell from an objective standpoint, considering history and the irrational human brain, some shoes can only be bought on resale.
@@salvadorHombre lol irrational is right. I’ve seen my share of idiots paying upwards of 300$ for a colorway I’ve already hit twice. Once when the Origin Story dropped and the other is when the L&F dropped. Didn’t need to pay any resell to obtain the Chi color way. Waiting isn’t really an issue. It’s the delusional people who hype up these shoes and pushing the “exclusivity” factor that’s making all these younger generation believe they’re missing out. Even though they know deep down Nike will re-release this shit 🤦♂️
@@jeremyjackson8196 There’s always an option. People just choose to overlook it because of their own delusion. I’m a huge fan of Kobe, my dream is to at least own 1 pair of his shoes. In my younger days, my family was poor. I couldn’t afford Jordan’s til I was 20 and had a stable job. By the time Nike rolled out the SNKRS app I was already 30. The dropped the Kobe Protros, and not once have I ever won a pair of Kobe’s. However, I made it a point to NEVER buy at resale. No matter how much I admire Kobe, I can’t justify supporting a community where buying out products, then reselling it for ridiculous prices to actual consumers who want them. So ya, like I said, there is an option to not buy into the hype and support these companies and people that cash in. Then again, that’s just an optimistic point of view 🤷♂️ People are just too stubborn nowadays
REPS make it a more logical and a wiser choice unless you can afford to spend stupid amount of money for a pair of Jordan 4’s $500-$1000 LOL when we were paying about $100 at the max back in the day simply walk into footlocker pay and leave. Why wait in line for a golden ticket 🎫 or online battle with bots and then find them on sites like stockx goat etc where almost 75% of the time are REPS. Reps Gave gotten really really 1:1 good. Made by the same people in the same country in the same factories with the same materials etc. These kids weren’t even around to watch MJ in the 4’s there about “FLEX” lol and “clout” when majority of them don’t even own a property let alone a income generating property. I love my clean reps wear them with confidence NEVER claiming they are “real” lol always rep with confidence. This generation are not sneaker heads they are clout chasers they go on you’re feet and meant to be worn! Why spend hours and hundred among hundreds of dollars. You can find so seriously dead on clean reps.
Weston always gives the most unbiased reviews ever. No one else can say "I love this shoe, don't spend this much money on it." with this much sincerity. Been waiting a minute for a Jordan 4 review and this did not disappoint! Loved the "$ wasted to date" counter too ahahaha
The original 1989 AJ4 and the 1999 retro used a hard plastic for the support wings and pull tab which would be much stronger than the rubber ones they use now.
Loving the next level edits, especially the B roll at 10:18 with the diagram that labels all of the parts after they're cut in half. As a sneakerhead, it hurt to watch this (and the other Jordan videos) but you do show what you're paying for when you buy a pair of Jordans, and what we're really buying is nostalgia; it's a very powerful buying factor.
@@grandmasteraj855 Yup. The midsole has a softer foam and the tongue + collar feature more padding. I also believe the last/shape is closer to the 1989 original. The AJ4 Bred Reimagined uses the same cues for the SB4. People are hyped on them but they are way too chunky and stiff to skate.
I had the original release "III's" in grade 9. I played a lot of sports in junior and senior high years and needed a good all-around performance sneaker. The original "IIIs" are, to this day, the best/most comfortable all-around performance sneaker I've ever owned. I remember saving to buy the "IV's" for the following year and was HUGELY disappointed with the quality when I first held them. I chose not to get them and went for a Reebok Pump that year. Then the "V's" were released the following year and I swear they seemed even worse than the "IV's". Can't recall what I bought that year. When the "VI's" came out, they were $20 (CAD) more than the previous three models and I was skeptical because of the synthetic material but I decided to buy them and to this day they are 2nd best all-around performance sneaker. They actually were hard to "kill" they were so durable. I now own the retro "III's" and the retro "VI's" and they are so disappointing. Not even comparable. A waste of money if you ask me.
The cardboard like leather on the IIIs are just unacceptable to me too. Nike should just make the shoes top quality and request the appropriate amount of money.
Maybe you should try the Jordan 4 SBs too. It's the most confortable Jordan 4 I ever had, and they allegedly change some stuff on the sole. You'll probably be the first one to verify that theory !
@@marvin7533 13s are like walking on clouds. Them and the 14s are fantastic. The 12s are nice as well but imo not on par with 13s and 14s. Also heard 18s are incredibly comfortable but haven't been able to get a pair for a reasonable price (yet)
Durabuck is the one that was used on the Bred colorway (black and red), it was like suede but much smoother, while this Fire Red and other colorways use regular leather Btw I love your videos, I learn so much about leather quality
@@Trebor-gw8lt thank you for this piece of information, I only see the retro ones not the OG that’s why I know that the Bred has the durabuck, not the rest
The original fire red Jordan 4 from 1989 used a white durabuck, same with the Jordan 4 white cements 1989 original release. Also the Jordan 5 original white fire red also used white durabuck.
I'd love to see you review the Lidl sneakers (Yes, the grocery store). They retailed for something like 16 bucks and the resale is crazy. I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on how a cheap af shoe like the Lidl shoe compares to Nike etc.
@@mreyes2575nahh not really. I bought them when they dropped on the website and i like wearing it cuz of looks (got the yellow pair) but the materials feel super weird and cheap. They dont crease that much but just because you‘re so locked in inside them and it takes super long to break them in
I’ve been super curious about the Jordan 4 as they are some of my favorite shoes in my collection I’ve always loved the design and all the different color ways
My 2nd favorite retro next to Air Jordan 1. I've always learned something from your video everytime you cut a pair of shoes in half! Big ups to you Weston.
Theyre doing 3’s now and I love it. Never owned a three until 2 years ago and by far the most comfortable jordan and the minimalist design comparatively is fire. No nike swoosh, just beautiful leather
One of the most important features of a basketball shoe is how it performs With lateral movement. How the sole grips on hard side to side stops and if the foot is able to push through the front or side. It would be interesting to see how these retro shows hold up to those forces
I love my Jordan Chicago colorways. I went to the same high school as the guy who created the Bulls and he gave the Bulls are hs' colors to honor it. I dont mind paying the extra money for those colorways because the sentimental value behind it.
Would be cool to see a club c 85 pair cut in half (can’t find literally any on the internet). Specifically the vintage pairs have some of the softest leather I have ever seen on shoes. Would love to see an in depth analysis on the overall quality and durability of the leather though.
Me too. There is some concern that Nike didn’t put the forefoot Air unit in them because they lauded the forefoot flexibility of the SB4 in their product literature. They probably did put them in, but you never know. They have been busted before in the past for removing tech from retro shoes.
Had the original Black Cement as a kid, not even knowing what I had. Bought the 2019 pair, still have it, keep it clean in its box and I do wear it every now and then. Definitely one of my favorite looking sneakers and one that I enjoy a lot wearing. But they are what they are. I think "Toy Sneakers" is a great term, because that's what they are for a sneaker collector. They are just toys that you enjoy looking at and wearing. As for the shoe itself, the materials suck. Specially the Black Cements which are the "fuzzy" fake leather. The sole is hard as hell too. Good thing is that the material doesn't crease like the smooth leather, and even if it does, it doesn't look bad.
You should compare the Regular Jordan 4 retro to the New Remade Jordan 4 SB, OR since you already cut the newer released Jordan 4 Retro, find a older model from 2012 and see the changes in the model over the years
It's interesting that the Jordan 4 is manufactured in Vietnam. I bought a fake pair in Vietnam and honestly the quality feels better than my genuine 1s at home. I think that there is more leather in the upper and they just feel a lot more sturdy. They also didn't crease instantly which is nice.
Hi, you should absolutely make a video where you compare the air force 1 and the Court vision low, they are quite similar from the outside, but what about the inside?
I love your videos especially the Jordan ones. But it's sooooo painful watching the cutting in half. 🤣 🤣 I have the bred 4s. They look nice but they are definitely one of the most uncomfortable Jordan retros until they are broken in.
I've been waiting for this video! I love how the 4's look but I cannot wear them for very long because of the flex zones pinching on the top of my toes. Also, because they're like bricks on feet.
I wonder if kids that grew up wearing these premium shoes grew up having more, less or the same foot issues as those that didn’t? I know people that wore Vans and Chucks a lot started having foot pain as they got older.
Regarding the foam used for the insole, open cell foam is generally considered superior as it breathes better. Ortholite is the most commonly used foam brand and most of their products are open cell. In addition, Poron, one of the the most durable and best shocking absorbing (and expensive) foams, is also open cell .
open cell is crap and you would know if you owned the originals or even the 1999 bred retro. They bottom out much sooner and just arent as comfotarble out of the box.
@@airtec87 The open cell foam that Nike uses in that sneaker may be crap but that does not mean all open cell foams are crap. Poron is an open cell foam and is generally considered the most durable foam you can find in footwear and I've seen claims from people that it holds up for decades (one guy on Reddit said that he had boots that were 30 years old and still good) I've owned good quality hiking boots and Nike running shoes which use Ortholite brand foam and they've been very good. So much so that I still have the insoles long after the shoes are gone (I will use old insoles to adjust fit in my boot collection).
Best looking Jordan tied with 1, but pinky toe crusher, not bad on get all day if insoles are swapped and long socks are worn to prevent back pull tab from scraping Achilles, thanks for showing us what's under our feet all day, you are the only one in TH-cam that does this, on par with bedosleather, thanks you, truly!
As a older dude who skated a lot of the air flight 89’ and played a lot of basketball in them I can tell you their durability and performance in both has no others to compare it two. I was shocked Nike made a jordan 4 SB and was having pro skaters skate them because I thought I was the only one who appreciated them for skating but not surprisingly is that many who try to skate them now and do like how they perform. Plus they have top notch durability(for skating and basketball). Not to mention they look way better then modern basketball shoes especially with jeans yet I could walk or hike in these and be totally fine too. I’m super glad I found some cheap Chinese sites I got knock off SB color ways for 40 bucks including shipping and they have real gray suede toes. Nike is going to bury themselves overcharging w limited releases.
The case with most basketball sneakers from before the mid 2000s is they’re just “fancy”lifestyle shoes by modern standards. Sneaker tech has come a long way and pretty much any pro nba player is choosing those super athletic looking sneakers because well they’re actually athletic. Still it’s nice to see how these shoes are constructed and hold up.
One of my viewers mentioned you and I had to come see for myself. Absolutely amazing channel. Your content blew me away in this vid. It gave me insight on what I buy now!
Got into Jordans during lock down because of "the last dance." These are totally the coolest Jordans in my opinion and these were the first pair I bought. Can't believe he's called them toy shoes 😢😂. I do believe they're actual "tanks" when it comes to durability though and I didn't buy them for function. 🎉
They are toys compared to the originals, the wings for example weren't made of rubber, but much more a sturdier TPU. The originals also had a bigger forefoot air bubble and thicker PU insoles.
Since I first learned about the Jordan 4 (thanks to the wild resale price of Eminems) I have always loved the look. But I have insurance to pay for first
Please do the Nike SB Jordan 4. The original Jordan 4 (like the fire red here) are universally known as the pinky toe killers. I'm really curious how Nike SB made the shape better for the SB collab. Also Nike apparently updated that shape to all Jordan 4s for this year
I did a survey on Facebook in a very large sneaker group asking what age everyone was. Largest groups were 30s and 40s.. So, it’s an old head game.I’m 50. When I think of vintage Jordans, I immediately picture bred 1s and fire red 4s. So for me, worth every penny to buy a shoe from my youth, and luckily for me and people like me, at our age, we make the kind of money it takes not to care about the price so much. I remember thinking those 4s were so modern looking, when they first came out.
jordan 4 is one of my favorite shoes of all time. but i knew its so not worth it, the "leather" wrinkles like crumpled paper with just a couple wears, my feet hurts from walking in them for too long, and they're dumb heavy too. but i still love it because of the history and aesthetic.
I had a pair of these way back in Middle School and they got pretty beat up since I didn't really comprehend just how much people love these things. But the weird thing is that my coach dissed them at one point as looking like crap 😂 Like what kind of adult- a teacher no less, fires shots at a kid for having dirty shoes
Awesome teardown video as usual, thank you for doing this one. Also maybe in the future you can do a comparison with the SB Jordan 4, these recently came out and there is a curiosity in the sneaker community if the skate version have a forefoot air unit. Also the materials used on the SB model are vastly different, or appear to be than the regular Jordan 4 retro like the fire reds.
The Air Jordan 4 White Cement is my favorite shoe of all time. Unfortunately the quality of the the whole shoe has sunk constantly over the years. This is a genuine proof. Thanks for that Wheaton. I never expected Nike to smaller the Air Units. This is dishonorable. The long year faithful customers deserve better than this. Mister Jordan himself has to intervene as soon as possible. Wheaton, why don’t you cut the stitching of the soles any more?
hey Rose, BUT you got one of the rare colorways that don't go with all leather upper. the homework here hasn't been completeled)) personal experience - while being quite a heavy shoe they don't give tired feeling my feet after having long walks. also they're great on not having any stench after you wear them at least several months. p.s. another amazing episode
Hey Ross! Great vid. Definitely made want to stray away from the current hyped Nike sneakers even more. You earned a new sub! Is there any chance you'll look at Novesta? I came across a video comparing their high tops to the Chuck 70s. I'd like to see your breakdown and know your own take on that.
I will never hate this model or colourway. I was on to 4s a long time before the hype really kicked off. Not the most comfortable but super high dope value 😅
Thats awesome your doing a breakdown of the "tech/performance" function of these, but I gotta tell ya at least for me, the tech or performance these shoes have within them have never been a reason I've ever bought a pair of Jordan's.
Maybe not a lot of performance but plenty comfy. I had a pair that I used daily for a while. My mom took me to the mall once and told me to get anything I want as long as I threw away my keds-like sneakers, and I went for the spizikes and wore 'em all the time.
Great breakdown as always. You have picked a Jordan 4 that had some pretty bad QC issues. My right shoe came out of the box with horrible toe box creasing even before wearing it. The toe box shape was more narrow than all my other 4s and I had to go up a half size. There's definitely better 4s out there than this one
i would love to see a review of the Air Jordan 1 ZOOM CFT 2 and the Dunk by you, sneakerheads say that the by you dunks have tumbled and a higher quality leather.
I've ALWAYS thought the Air Jordan 4s look like " Toys " !!! Particularly, the Bred's !!! Never owned a pair and I shouldn't say never will but, not on my radar currently. Everytime I consider it, I go for a 1, 3, 5, or 6 instead !!! P.S. - For my collection's sake, I will eventually grab a pair !!! Hopefully the UNCs ....
Hi! You should compare them with the Jordan 4 SB pine green. They are supposed to be more comfortable and made differently. It would be fine to see exactly how!
o7 to that pair. your sacrifice will be remembered. i own a pair of these and theyre one of my favorites. but this run of fire red 4s are notorious for being made kinda crappy. Some of the newer 4s, theyre on an updated shoe last and they are better made and more comfortable.
I personally really like the fit on the 3s and the 4s. They don't work for me as a basketball shoe though (mainly because they are too bulky for the way I play)
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Flex seal??
@@chili2663no, completely different.
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I dremeled the air units open on my original pair in 89 or 90. Completely opened them up,just to see. Front air unit was definitely bigger in the original. I still miss those shoes. Also I didn't know that eventually there would be an entire culture of people who appreciate shoes as much as I did. I have catalogs and a signed letter from Nike and Tinker from the 80s. I wrote to them in Beaverton as an 11 year old and they sent me catalogs for shoe stores and all kinds of cool pamphlets. Was very, very nice of them.
True. The air units were bigger and the PU midsole was softer in the 89s.
the hipster of shoes
Popping your air pockets was a rite of passage for late summer, after basketball camp days.
had a pair of 99 breds midsole crumbled and the front air units were bigger as well. I wonder if the sb 4s even have an air unit in the front.
@@airtec87What's so special about the Jordan 4 SB? Why do you ask that about the air units?
I salute you for choosing to cut a pricier OG colorway instead of choosing a more affordable recent colorway like the Midnight Navy, quality wise and closer to the OGs.
It's a business, he gets more money from the more attention grabbing thumbnail.
It's a myth that the og colorways are using any better material. It's usually just people thinking more tumbled = higher quality.
It isn't, it just looks less like plastic.
Really doesn’t matter what colorway was used. None of the retro 4s are true to the OG 89’s in terms of construction, quality and tech specs. Nike has cheapened the shoe in retro form big time. He’s right, the retro 4 is a toy shoe, whereas in 1989 it was an actual performance shoe.
Oddly enough I have 3 pairs of 4s and Imo the best quality ones is my J4 Fiba by far, ugly ass hell but they promoted it as more premium and it is. Better leather compared to my Taupe Haze and my Breds
@@Trebor-gw8lt exactly. Imagine 40 years from now. They will look at the way of the wade shoe the same just given the technology. Shit ai probably gonna tell us we been wrong this whole time with performance lol
I simply love the look of the 4’s, however, I ultimately ALWAYS avoid buying resell. Not just for these, but for EVERY shoe. It’s not worth the extra cash. Other color ways and collabs will pop up. Waiting on it won’t kill you, but that potential 1000% price hike might
It really depends on the shoe IMO.
Consider Chicago 1s. There's nothing rational about paying resell for those. But paying resell is often the only way to get Chicago 1s and it's probably one of the most desirable shoes/colourways out there.
So while it's definitely not worth paying resell from an objective standpoint, considering history and the irrational human brain, some shoes can only be bought on resale.
@@salvadorHombre lol irrational is right. I’ve seen my share of idiots paying upwards of 300$ for a colorway I’ve already hit twice. Once when the Origin Story dropped and the other is when the L&F dropped. Didn’t need to pay any resell to obtain the Chi color way. Waiting isn’t really an issue. It’s the delusional people who hype up these shoes and pushing the “exclusivity” factor that’s making all these younger generation believe they’re missing out. Even though they know deep down Nike will re-release this shit 🤦♂️
Considering just about every sneaker worth having is gobbled up by bots the second they release resell is the only option to obtain most.
@@jeremyjackson8196 There’s always an option. People just choose to overlook it because of their own delusion. I’m a huge fan of Kobe, my dream is to at least own 1 pair of his shoes. In my younger days, my family was poor. I couldn’t afford Jordan’s til I was 20 and had a stable job. By the time Nike rolled out the SNKRS app I was already 30. The dropped the Kobe Protros, and not once have I ever won a pair of Kobe’s. However, I made it a point to NEVER buy at resale. No matter how much I admire Kobe, I can’t justify supporting a community where buying out products, then reselling it for ridiculous prices to actual consumers who want them. So ya, like I said, there is an option to not buy into the hype and support these companies and people that cash in. Then again, that’s just an optimistic point of view 🤷♂️ People are just too stubborn nowadays
REPS make it a more logical and a wiser choice unless you can afford to spend stupid amount of money for a pair of Jordan 4’s $500-$1000 LOL when we were paying about $100 at the max back in the day simply walk into footlocker pay and leave. Why wait in line for a golden ticket 🎫 or online battle with bots and then find them on sites like stockx goat etc where almost 75% of the time are REPS. Reps Gave gotten really really 1:1 good. Made by the same people in the same country in the same factories with the same materials etc. These kids weren’t even around to watch MJ in the 4’s there about “FLEX” lol and “clout” when majority of them don’t even own a property let alone a income generating property. I love my clean reps wear them with confidence NEVER claiming they are “real” lol always rep with confidence. This generation are not sneaker heads they are clout chasers they go on you’re feet and meant to be worn! Why spend hours and hundred among hundreds of dollars. You can find so seriously dead on clean reps.
Weston always gives the most unbiased reviews ever. No one else can say "I love this shoe, don't spend this much money on it." with this much sincerity. Been waiting a minute for a Jordan 4 review and this did not disappoint! Loved the "$ wasted to date" counter too ahahaha
The original 1989 AJ4 and the 1999 retro used a hard plastic for the support wings and pull tab which would be much stronger than the rubber ones they use now.
Loving the next level edits, especially the B roll at 10:18 with the diagram that labels all of the parts after they're cut in half. As a sneakerhead, it hurt to watch this (and the other Jordan videos) but you do show what you're paying for when you buy a pair of Jordans, and what we're really buying is nostalgia; it's a very powerful buying factor.
Jordan 4 SB next, please!!🙏
Wait they make a SB version?
@@grandmasteraj855 Yup. The midsole has a softer foam and the tongue + collar feature more padding. I also believe the last/shape is closer to the 1989 original. The AJ4 Bred Reimagined uses the same cues for the SB4. People are hyped on them but they are way too chunky and stiff to skate.
bro finally been waiting for this vid
I had the original release "III's" in grade 9. I played a lot of sports in junior and senior high years and needed a good all-around performance sneaker. The original "IIIs" are, to this day, the best/most comfortable all-around performance sneaker I've ever owned. I remember saving to buy the "IV's" for the following year and was HUGELY disappointed with the quality when I first held them. I chose not to get them and went for a Reebok Pump that year. Then the "V's" were released the following year and I swear they seemed even worse than the "IV's". Can't recall what I bought that year. When the "VI's" came out, they were $20 (CAD) more than the previous three models and I was skeptical because of the synthetic material but I decided to buy them and to this day they are 2nd best all-around performance sneaker. They actually were hard to "kill" they were so durable. I now own the retro "III's" and the retro "VI's" and they are so disappointing. Not even comparable. A waste of money if you ask me.
The cardboard like leather on the IIIs are just unacceptable to me too.
Nike should just make the shoes top quality and request the appropriate amount of money.
Maybe you should try the Jordan 4 SBs too. It's the most confortable Jordan 4 I ever had, and they allegedly change some stuff on the sole. You'll probably be the first one to verify that theory !
I'd say the 13s is the most comfortable retro with the zoom comfort.
@@marvin7533 13s are like walking on clouds. Them and the 14s are fantastic. The 12s are nice as well but imo not on par with 13s and 14s.
Also heard 18s are incredibly comfortable but haven't been able to get a pair for a reasonable price (yet)
Ive seen someone else tear the 4 SB's down, they have a air unit in the insole unlike normal AJ4's
My first Jordan I purchased for myself was the 4, The Pure Money pair from 2017 love this shoe.
that shoe is super clean. I love it.
how have they been lasting? i got myself some retro 4s Red cements and bought my sister retro 4s metallic gold.
Had the Mars 4, 2012 fire red 4s and 2020 fire red 4s. My favorite color way , has a lot of meaning to me .
the quality of your videos has been on a constant come up. this one knocks it out of the park
12:05 thats exactly why i like watching these before i buy a shoe. I want to know im making a valuable purchase
Durabuck is the one that was used on the Bred colorway (black and red), it was like suede but much smoother, while this Fire Red and other colorways use regular leather
Btw I love your videos, I learn so much about leather quality
Wrong. Durabuck was used on all of the 1989 “OG” color ways except for the military blues.
Yup, and the insoles were never PU, they were thick chunky rubber foam so you're definitely getting more sports performance response than PU insoles.
@@Trebor-gw8lt thank you for this piece of information, I only see the retro ones not the OG that’s why I know that the Bred has the durabuck, not the rest
The original fire red Jordan 4 from 1989 used a white durabuck, same with the Jordan 4 white cements 1989 original release. Also the Jordan 5 original white fire red also used white durabuck.
@@thomascalderon598 wrong, those were PU closed cell insoles. Only difference is the thickness, the OGs were "chubby"
I'd love to see you review the Lidl sneakers (Yes, the grocery store). They retailed for something like 16 bucks and the resale is crazy. I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on how a cheap af shoe like the Lidl shoe compares to Nike etc.
Seen a pair in Lidl the other day and was half tempted to get a pair the quality seems as good as some twice or tree times the piece
@@mreyes2575nahh not really. I bought them when they dropped on the website and i like wearing it cuz of looks (got the yellow pair) but the materials feel super weird and cheap. They dont crease that much but just because you‘re so locked in inside them and it takes super long to break them in
I’ve been super curious about the Jordan 4 as they are some of my favorite shoes in my collection I’ve always loved the design and all the different color ways
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Synthetic leather: exists
Weston: *And I took that personally*
My 2nd favorite retro next to Air Jordan 1. I've always learned something from your video everytime you cut a pair of shoes in half! Big ups to you Weston.
It's funny how every retro gets like a 1-3yr time to shine as a trend, and for the last year or two, the 4s and 1s have been the go-tos
Theyre doing 3’s now and I love it. Never owned a three until 2 years ago and by far the most comfortable jordan and the minimalist design comparatively is fire. No nike swoosh, just beautiful leather
could you do the sb version of this show down the line? curious to see the difference woul be. great vid tho!
Rose Anvil (and everyone else): "Looks like a kid designed it."
Designer who designed this:
One of the most important features of a basketball shoe is how it performs
With lateral movement. How the sole grips on hard side to side stops and if the foot is able to push through the front or side. It would be interesting to see how these retro shows hold up to those forces
It's not a basketball shoe, it's a fashion accessory
@@Conorsev originally designed to be a basketball shoe
I really love what you are doing to the overhyped boots and sneakers judging their style, price, and value.❤!✌!👌! I am subscribing now.
I was always iffy on the Jordan 4. It always had to much going on for my taste. The 1 and 3 are my faves.
The 4s were my first Jordan’s ever after helping my mom with house chores. I played in them and was satisfied.
I love my Jordan Chicago colorways. I went to the same high school as the guy who created the Bulls and he gave the Bulls are hs' colors to honor it. I dont mind paying the extra money for those colorways because the sentimental value behind it.
Would be cool to see a club c 85 pair cut in half (can’t find literally any on the internet). Specifically the vintage pairs have some of the softest leather I have ever seen on shoes. Would love to see an in depth analysis on the overall quality and durability of the leather though.
Would love to see the Jordan 4 SB from 2023 cut apart!
Me too. There is some concern that Nike didn’t put the forefoot Air unit in them because they lauded the forefoot flexibility of the SB4 in their product literature. They probably did put them in, but you never know. They have been busted before in the past for removing tech from retro shoes.
Had the original Black Cement as a kid, not even knowing what I had. Bought the 2019 pair, still have it, keep it clean in its box and I do wear it every now and then. Definitely one of my favorite looking sneakers and one that I enjoy a lot wearing.
But they are what they are. I think "Toy Sneakers" is a great term, because that's what they are for a sneaker collector. They are just toys that you enjoy looking at and wearing. As for the shoe itself, the materials suck. Specially the Black Cements which are the "fuzzy" fake leather. The sole is hard as hell too. Good thing is that the material doesn't crease like the smooth leather, and even if it does, it doesn't look bad.
You should compare the Regular Jordan 4 retro to the New Remade Jordan 4 SB, OR since you already cut the newer released Jordan 4 Retro, find a older model from 2012 and see the changes in the model over the years
FIRST articulated air unit in the forefoot! but its small for sure
It's interesting that the Jordan 4 is manufactured in Vietnam. I bought a fake pair in Vietnam and honestly the quality feels better than my genuine 1s at home. I think that there is more leather in the upper and they just feel a lot more sturdy. They also didn't crease instantly which is nice.
I cannot wait until you get to the 5. My personal favorite and i want to see you break it down to see if i just bought the hype all these years, lol
Jordan 4 sb next!
Bold for calling Jordan sneakers “toys”. You’re not wrong.
Hi, you should absolutely make a video where you compare the air force 1 and the Court vision low, they are quite similar from the outside, but what about the inside?
They are old retro shoes would be more interesting to compare them to what was available at the time.
I love your videos especially the Jordan ones. But it's sooooo painful watching the cutting in half. 🤣 🤣 I have the bred 4s. They look nice but they are definitely one of the most uncomfortable Jordan retros until they are broken in.
I've been waiting for this video!
I love how the 4's look but I cannot wear them for very long because of the flex zones pinching on the top of my toes. Also, because they're like bricks on feet.
The SB4s sorted out that pinch factor although the brick factor remains 😄
you need to halfsize up for the comfort
@@tungnguyen-oh3fs I've tried half-size up and full-size up lmao
I wonder if kids that grew up wearing these premium shoes grew up having more, less or the same foot issues as those that didn’t? I know people that wore Vans and Chucks a lot started having foot pain as they got older.
Regarding the foam used for the insole, open cell foam is generally considered superior as it breathes better. Ortholite is the most commonly used foam brand and most of their products are open cell. In addition, Poron, one of the the most durable and best shocking absorbing (and expensive) foams, is also open cell .
open cell is crap and you would know if you owned the originals or even the 1999 bred retro. They bottom out much sooner and just arent as comfotarble out of the box.
@@airtec87 The open cell foam that Nike uses in that sneaker may be crap but that does not mean all open cell foams are crap.
Poron is an open cell foam and is generally considered the most durable foam you can find in footwear and I've seen claims from people that it holds up for decades (one guy on Reddit said that he had boots that were 30 years old and still good)
I've owned good quality hiking boots and Nike running shoes which use Ortholite brand foam and they've been very good. So much so that I still have the insoles long after the shoes are gone (I will use old insoles to adjust fit in my boot collection).
Best looking Jordan tied with 1, but pinky toe crusher, not bad on get all day if insoles are swapped and long socks are worn to prevent back pull tab from scraping Achilles, thanks for showing us what's under our feet all day, you are the only one in TH-cam that does this, on par with bedosleather, thanks you, truly!
I believe the original release shoes had different materials more performance based as to now they are casual and made to last longer.
Yes, it has been proven a long time ago that retros are not meant to be a performance shoe than it’s original.
As a older dude who skated a lot of the air flight 89’ and played a lot of basketball in them I can tell you their durability and performance in both has no others to compare it two.
I was shocked Nike made a jordan 4 SB and was having pro skaters skate them because I thought I was the only one who appreciated them for skating but not surprisingly is that many who try to skate them now and do like how they perform.
Plus they have top notch durability(for skating and basketball).
Not to mention they look way better then modern basketball shoes especially with jeans yet I could walk or hike in these and be totally fine too.
I’m super glad I found some cheap Chinese sites I got knock off SB color ways for 40 bucks including shipping and they have real gray suede toes.
Nike is going to bury themselves overcharging w limited releases.
The case with most basketball sneakers from before the mid 2000s is they’re just “fancy”lifestyle shoes by modern standards.
Sneaker tech has come a long way and pretty much any pro nba player is choosing those super athletic looking sneakers because well they’re actually athletic.
Still it’s nice to see how these shoes are constructed and hold up.
One of my viewers mentioned you and I had to come see for myself. Absolutely amazing channel. Your content blew me away in this vid. It gave me insight on what I buy now!
Do some of the pinnacle releases! Like the air jordan 5 premium. Lets see those vs normal stuff as they retailed for 400
Can you do the new Jordan 4 SB Pine Green to see how it compares to a normal pair of 4’s? Love the content!
Common Rose nobody wears Jordans for performance. Fans wear them for casual wear and to flex what they have.
I've seen a lot of shoes cut in half on this page, but this one hurt me in the chest. 😢
Got into Jordans during lock down because of "the last dance." These are totally the coolest Jordans in my opinion and these were the first pair I bought. Can't believe he's called them toy shoes 😢😂. I do believe they're actual "tanks" when it comes to durability though and I didn't buy them for function. 🎉
They are toys compared to the originals, the wings for example weren't made of rubber, but much more a sturdier TPU. The originals also had a bigger forefoot air bubble and thicker PU insoles.
Since I first learned about the Jordan 4 (thanks to the wild resale price of Eminems) I have always loved the look. But I have insurance to pay for first
Jordan 4 is my favorite of the 1-13 lineup. Next is the 11 for style. After that it's the 7 for comfort.
This channel makes all the right videos. I love it!
Thought I was subscribed but you were just in my recommended. Now subscribed
Please do the Nike SB Jordan 4. The original Jordan 4 (like the fire red here) are universally known as the pinky toe killers. I'm really curious how Nike SB made the shape better for the SB collab. Also Nike apparently updated that shape to all Jordan 4s for this year
I did a survey on Facebook in a very large sneaker group asking what age everyone was. Largest groups were 30s and 40s.. So, it’s an old head game.I’m 50. When I think of vintage Jordans, I immediately picture bred 1s and fire red 4s. So for me, worth every penny to buy a shoe from my youth, and luckily for me and people like me, at our age, we make the kind of money it takes not to care about the price so much. I remember thinking those 4s were so modern looking, when they first came out.
jordan 4 is one of my favorite shoes of all time. but i knew its so not worth it, the "leather" wrinkles like crumpled paper with just a couple wears, my feet hurts from walking in them for too long, and they're dumb heavy too. but i still love it because of the history and aesthetic.
I had a pair of these way back in Middle School and they got pretty beat up since I didn't really comprehend just how much people love these things.
But the weird thing is that my coach dissed them at one point as looking like crap 😂 Like what kind of adult- a teacher no less, fires shots at a kid for having dirty shoes
I've never seen anyone actually play basketball in these remakes of Jordans. They are classed as life style shoes, like nearly all Jordans of today.
Awesome teardown video as usual, thank you for doing this one. Also maybe in the future you can do a comparison with the SB Jordan 4, these recently came out and there is a curiosity in the sneaker community if the skate version have a forefoot air unit. Also the materials used on the SB model are vastly different, or appear to be than the regular Jordan 4 retro like the fire reds.
I love it when you guys look at the Jordan retro models
The Air Jordan 4 White Cement is my favorite shoe of all time.
Unfortunately the quality of the the whole shoe has sunk constantly over the years. This is a genuine proof. Thanks for that Wheaton.
I never expected Nike to smaller the Air Units. This is dishonorable. The long year faithful customers deserve better than this. Mister Jordan himself has to intervene as soon as possible.
Wheaton, why don’t you cut the stitching of the soles any more?
hey Rose, BUT you got one of the rare colorways that don't go with all leather upper.
the homework here hasn't been completeled))
personal experience - while being quite a heavy shoe they don't give tired feeling my feet after having long walks.
also they're great on not having any stench after you wear them at least several months.
p.s. another amazing episode
Amazing video bro. I love how structured and detailed you get. Much respect!
In the movie Do the Right Thing Giancarlo Esposito's character Buggin' Out has a fit when someone steps on his white cement Jordan 4's
REVIEW THE VRL AIR JORDAN 1 PAIR THAT TONS OF PEOPLE REQUESTED WHEN YOU MENTIONED LOOKING AT JORDAN REPS
Hey Ross! Great vid. Definitely made want to stray away from the current hyped Nike sneakers even more. You earned a new sub!
Is there any chance you'll look at Novesta? I came across a video comparing their high tops to the Chuck 70s. I'd like to see your breakdown and know your own take on that.
I don’t care if it’s made of jello; it’s a priceless sentimental item from my youth.
Key word being 'Youth' :-)
I will never hate this model or colourway. I was on to 4s a long time before the hype really kicked off. Not the most comfortable but super high dope value 😅
AJ1, AJ5 and AJ4 are my favorite Air Jordans. Period. All great shoes for Skateboarding too.
I Hope I Get To Do Every Jordan from 1-14 or 1-23
SB 4’s please!
Thats awesome your doing a breakdown of the "tech/performance" function of these, but I gotta tell ya at least for me, the tech or performance these shoes have within them have never been a reason I've ever bought a pair of Jordan's.
Maybe not a lot of performance but plenty comfy. I had a pair that I used daily for a while. My mom took me to the mall once and told me to get anything I want as long as I threw away my keds-like sneakers, and I went for the spizikes and wore 'em all the time.
The spizike are the only jordan hybrid i would get lol its a comfortable shoes!
You guys need to do a "Dunk By You" vs a general release pair.
Project Rock 6 shoes should be next !!
$160+ for what’s sold as the Rock battle test ultimate engineering performance shoes, but is it ??
Great breakdown as always. You have picked a Jordan 4 that had some pretty bad QC issues. My right shoe came out of the box with horrible toe box creasing even before wearing it. The toe box shape was more narrow than all my other 4s and I had to go up a half size. There's definitely better 4s out there than this one
Meh, to me, all the early Jordans are for fashion. The only Jordans I play with are the later Jordans.
You gotta do the SB version next
Finallyyyyy I’ve been waiting for this episode, can’t wait to watch it
Oooof the fire reds getting cut but I appreciate you doing this! I don’t have any 4’s in my collection but there’s a few i was looking at lol
You should do a docu about the history of the brand Jordan 1-14
That’s why I hate the J4 it’s just the hype
Finally found someone that uses his brain. Agree 1000% it's overhyped as fuck. For me it's just a Air Max 90 high
THESE VIDEOS KEEP GETTING BETTER AND BETTER
i would love to see a review of the Air Jordan 1 ZOOM CFT 2 and the Dunk by you, sneakerheads say that the by you dunks have tumbled and a higher quality leather.
I've ALWAYS thought the Air Jordan 4s look like " Toys " !!! Particularly, the Bred's !!! Never owned a pair and I shouldn't say never will but, not on my radar currently. Everytime I consider it, I go for a 1, 3, 5, or 6 instead !!!
P.S. - For my collection's sake, I will eventually grab a pair !!! Hopefully the UNCs ....
I've been waiting for this video
Next you should do 4s vs SB 4s
The fake/low quality leather drives me nuts especially with the price of these shoes
Would love to see a Nike Foamposites
Hi! You should compare them with the Jordan 4 SB pine green. They are supposed to be more comfortable and made differently. It would be fine to see exactly how!
I’m very curious to see you review the sneakers from Veja. Could be pretty interesting
I have the reverse motorsports and i appreciate this breakdown
It's really sad to see the youth spend so much money on a pair of 5$-10$ production line shoe
o7 to that pair. your sacrifice will be remembered. i own a pair of these and theyre one of my favorites. but this run of fire red 4s are notorious for being made kinda crappy. Some of the newer 4s, theyre on an updated shoe last and they are better made and more comfortable.
I personally really like the fit on the 3s and the 4s. They don't work for me as a basketball shoe though (mainly because they are too bulky for the way I play)
When the rear pull tab dries out it cracks super easy