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Yeah, I use the M1 12.9” iPad Pro as my primary personal computer. I completely agree with this list. They need to address the thunderbolt port. It needs to get up to speed. They brag that you can connect external storage, but I can’t format a drive so I can use it. They brag that you can connect to an external display, but it only runs in mirror mode, and doesn’t scale. - What kills the most, is that they could fix all of this with a software update.
@@nikshaymeghwal4396 I think this is personal opinion question. You need to go to the store and feel the weight in hand. Spend some time holding it. Pull up a website, and read a couple of articles. See if you’re comfortable holding it. If I was giving buying advice to a student, I’d say get a non pro as a companion device to a M1 MacBook Air. You’ll need the desktop os and app support in your classes. While being able to draw and take pictures will help in note taking. There are awesome apps like Good Note that are powerful and super useful. Keep in mind that you’ll also need a keyboard case as well. Maybe consider an Air instead of the Pro.
Do you know that a calculator is also a computer? It is a fact you can google it if you want. By that definition what is wrong calling iPad by itself a computer?
As an owner of two iPad Pros (Gen 1 and 2), who uses them for painting, I finally had enough of the Playskool OS, and spent the same money on a Galaxy Book 360. OLED screen, 15 inches, Wacom EMR pen, runs an actual operating system. Loving it. After 25 years, they finally made me buy a Windows machine. Well done, Apple.
I think Apple may have outsmarted themselves. They made an iPad Pro so powerful that it rivals the performance (and sales) of the MacBook Pro. So, the only way to prevent that bit of unforeseen unfortunateness would be to limit iPadOS. That, in turn, limits the appeal of a Pro level iPad thus encouraging consumers to opt for the cheaper iPad Air or Mini.
@@tom_marsden yeah but that's dumb, ipad pro 512GB with a keyboard and a pencil costs 2000€ while a 8core 512GB MacBook air costs 1300€ And I'd much rather buy the ipad because it's amazing to draw on (and fun vs. a Wacom tablet for example) but the iOS has mad it just a bigger iphone that's it
@@PresidentValentine what you said might be true, but they don't want you to choose between them. they want you to purchase both devices and be a part of "the ecosystem" they have .... ,which would sum up to 3300€
@@polycrystallinecandy Can you please dumb it down for me on the ipad issues and which ipad i should get? I just need to take notes and watch videos for my major and thats about it.
@@lolfala101 if you want to take notes and watch videos, then there shouldn't be any problems at all. I think iPad Air 2020 will work great for that. You can also get iPad pro 11 inch 2020 which doesn't cost much more than the Air. It has a smoother display and better speakers. Just know that if you want to watch videos and take notes at the same time, then the screen might be a bit small, but it can still be done. You can get iPad pro 12.9 inch 2020, which has a bigger screen, but will cost more. Edit: I forgot that they added quick notes in iPadOS 15, which should make it much easier to take notes while watching a video, even on a small screen, since you can get a floating window instead of splitting the screen. Also, if you buy from Apple's Education Store you can get a student discount and there is currently an offer which gives you Airpods for free. You can get Air 2020 from there, but they only have 2021 versions of the Pro. In summary, your options are: - iPad Air 2020 (great overall option, free Airpods from Apple Education Store) - iPad Pro 11 inch 2020 (slight upgrade over Air but same screen size, a bit more money, no free Airpods) - iPad Pro 12.9 inch 2020 (bigger screen, more money, no free Airpods) - iPad Pro 11 inch 2021 (don't think you need this, more money, but you get free Airpods) - iPad Pro 12.9 2021 (don't think you need this, a lot more money, free Airpods)
@@polycrystallinecandy thank you so much! I started looking for the ipad 2020 but it seems that it is almost the same price as the 2021 with the educational price (pro)
Guys I got it !!! You’ll need a higher capacity drive to handle the faster read & write speeds. So I’m thinking 1TB and 2TB models. Not the lower end storage options…
Thank you for your work. For my use, the impossible “text search” in “files” is the most annoying problem. Totally unacceptable. It really slows my productivity.
The inability to eject drives… like, that’s just insane… thanks for calling out the problems here! Apple needs to get their shit together and fix these FUNDAMENTAL stuff in their PRO product
Lol i thought pulling out the USB drive was a streamlined apple experience thing? I check the light though to make sure its not active on my portable SSD
I'm glad someone is doing some detective work on the M1 iPad Pro instead of just gushing about the hardware. The software is showing some serious issues. What are you trying to pull, Apple?
I’ve got the m1 Mac mini with my iPad as a companion, and there are definitely problems with the M1. Nothing too awful major. Mainly connectivity problems and random stuttering when you fill up the memory which happens way faster than you’d think even with the 16 gb version. But honestly who didn’t think there would be ANY problems? It is still the best Mac I’ve ever had
8:11 this is a downgrade from iPadOS 13/14, the new Home Screen feels like a regression. It's 6x4 app layout compared to 6x5, you cannot pin the today view, the apps change position when rotating the iPad, and space is just badly used now...
@@fgjhcfgg24242 yeah exactly and having the possibility to customize landscape and portrait separately is nice but sometimes you want to sync both. Or sometimes when I edit in landscape it messes up my portrait layout.
@@LUKAS-bb4jc the annoying thing about apple is first they let you have something that’s actually useful and then they take it away. these guys need to chill out fr i
@@fgjhcfgg24242 It’s like they removed some Siri Shortcuts for developers just why ??? Oh and making the phone call and data sharing both green in iOS 15 is also a weird decision
Of all the watched reviews on youtube, this is the first one I have seen that is consumer oriented, is useful and not just a parroting the sales commercial of the product.
Thanks for all the hardwork in uncovering these shortcomings of the iPAD PROs. Most reviewers are auditioning to remain on Apple's good books, but you guys don't hold back any punches.
I was really looking forward to upgrade my 2018 iPad Pro, but I don’t see much difference in performance and I am still happy with my three year old iPad Pro
Same. I’ll stick with my 11” 2018 model. There’s literally no reason to upgrade now when it can’t really do anything better than a 3 year old iPad. It’s just a bit faster.
Apple labeling its thunderbolt port as “thunderbolt” instead of “thunderbolt 3” or “thunderbolt 4” should raise alarm in the beginning. It means it’s not certified as neither specs.
The port on macbook is also labeled as thunderbolt / usb 4 though, the same as the ipad pro. It also list thunderbolt 3 in ipad pro's technical specification.
To be honest, I’ve been saving money to get myself a 1TB version of this so I could use it as my daily driver for personal and professional use. However, whenever I dive in to purchase, I always seek your review cuz I think you’re one of the most reliable TH-camrs out here who spit facts and none other than the truth. With the problems being said, I think I’m giving this a pass cuz I think iPad Pros are meant to be pro’s but the problems are making it look less like it and it sounds like a regular iPad to me. I’d say, it’s a pass. Thank you Max Tech
I don't think the ipad will reach macos level anytime soon. Even if it does, the m1 chip is far behind it's competitor. You're sacrificing performance for a slimmer form factor.
What made you felt the need to upgrade to the 2021 iPad pro to begin with when you have a fairly new iPad your-self? It makes absolutely no sense to begin with.. 😒😒
The transfer speed is based on SSD speed to read/write. The one in the iPad is mobile grade SSD, same as the one used in phones, configured for low power usage. Thunderbolt won't magically makes it faster, it's however useful for 5K video signal output in the iPad case.
A SSD that is twice as slow doesn't really explain a transfer speed up to 10x slower, though. This thing has a battery whose capacity is not really that different from the one on MBA, so why not just have a proper laptop/desktop grade SSD?
The write speed of the M1 iPad Pro is 1,500MBps as seen here 3:15 but it isn't getting near that with the thunderbolt SSD test. So, your point is irrelevant. The port is limited by the software in many ways by Apple which will hopefully be enabled for full bandwidth, monitor extension, and not having a faulty drive after unplugging the drive you just used to transfer files.
@@andyH_England yes so u suddenly agree it has issues . it's much slower than it claims to be. Which has nothing to do with Samsung or previous models. It's about iPad M1
@@andyH_England they literally just told you in the video. But you seem smarter than them lol. What is much lower voltage ? Whats the difference on the air and iPad pro ? They use the same charger and has the same chip. He just told you they might be limiting it's true capabilities. Like are you ok? What do you mean we expecting to much ? Even in video rendering the old iPad pro is faster lol. If you don't see the issue you are clearly lost, for the last time tab7 has nothing to do with apple. People compare with the laptop because they have the same chip and want to replace their laptop. Nobody gives a F about talking about Samsung when it's not even relevant for our use cases. Less clicks lmao stop yourself, that's the dumbest I ever heard . Voltage between macbook air and iPad pro is the same you Brainy techie. Stop try outsmart people with dumb comments
@@andyH_England anyone in the world can make a video comparing to Samsung we are not limited to big TH-camrs. Yes it's twice as fast as previous gen but it's the combination of all the issues that makes is problematic . And by now it should already been optimised but isn't. Previous iPad didn't have these problems . Transfer speeds could be the same as the laptop even if you believe it or not. It's limited by apple. Rather get the 2020 model at its full potential than an crazy fast but limited M1 that is slower in some areas than the old one because of poor optimisation. Apps are suppose to be able to cope with any speed or be fixed.
I tried the M1 12.9 iPad with my Pro XDR display and text looked like Sh**. I returned mine. I'm rocking 2020 iPad Pro now and won't upgrade for many years if Apple doesn't fix the software weakness.
I just want to add a huge thank you and appreciate the time and effort you've taken to compile these flaws/limitations in iPadOS vs MacOS this is exactly what I was looking for!❤️😁👍 Great content, keep up the great work!
Ok we get it, you guys have to make content and ragging on Apple gets views…this is like the 3rd or 4th video you’ve made about how much you hate the M1 iPad Pro. Weren’t you going to sell it anyways? Why keep making videos about the same issues?
I think they are going negative to get there videos out there more. They forget A lot only buy the IPad as there only computer device. It is super simple and easy to use. Why would they make it more complex to impress only like 10% of users. Apple does not make devices for Tech reviewers. They make it for the majority of consumers.
They should fix the issues. And probably they will or else they would just be called as a gimmick brand and not the one with wonderful user experience.
They seemingly fixed the 5GB/APP RAM issue, after they got raked over the coals for it. Apple will fix issues only if more people raise these important points and hold their feet to the fire.
I bought a 12.9” and have had it for about 2 weeks. Most of what you listed I agree with except for the blooming issue. You can only see blooming in any way shape or form if you turn the brightness all the way up and turn off the room lights. If you use auto-brightness (which is on by default) then the blooming in dark rooms is eradicated. In other words; blooming is only visible if you TRY to make it visible by manually changing settings in order to defeat the auto-brightness. Otherwise this was a great video as always Vadeem!
Ugh. I’ve been using my early 2013 MBP 15” for a while now. I use it for photo editing, it still runs Lightroom and Photoshop very well for my needs, but since Apple doesn’t update this model anymore, I’ve been thinking about upgrading. At first the M1 iPad looks very pleasing, but from this video (and all your other M1 iPad videos) it looks like it’s better off to wait till they update the 16 MBP to M1 or till Apple adds more Pro features on this iPad! :(
If you do actual work, get an actual computer. Apple will never let their iPad cross over into Mac territory. That would defeat the purpose of product segmentation, and that’s bad business. Peoples’ expectations are just not rooted in reality. Wait for that new M1 MacBook Pro with the big monitor. I bet it’ll slap the hell out of your current one
To be honest I use the iPad Pro for making notes and typing up documents ready for my apps on my M1 Mac mini when away from home. If there is a lot of videos from an event I need to transfer, I simply use the iCloud to sync my files across to appear on my Mac mini. I’ve not used an external hard drive for transfer in years. Now that everything is online now to the cloud storage especially with Fiber optic broadband pretty much everywhere now it’s easier to transfer this way.
Excellent review and analysis -- target! Like watching an honest after-action review at the National Training Center... let's hope the lessons are actually learned and solutions implemented soon.
After saw them launch the M1 ipad Pro, it seem like a test product to receive what feedbacks. If Steve job still alive, he will get mad and don't let this happen. Too bad, I really wish they can launch a complete product. Not just keep updating their ios to fix things, but hope they can launch a new ios with surpass features like what Apple did before....
@@Toyeboy89 Nowaday Apple give me fee like lack of innovation, they are the giant in microtech, but look at what they doing just way behind other competitivor. Hmm... Where is their moneys had gone.
@@Toyeboy89 by “stylus”, he meant one that came with a small phone screen and was the only input. His version of “a stylus” was a narrow metal finger. The Apple Pencil is a drawing pen that is NOT the main source of input and is not used on small screens either. It has pressure sensitivity and tilt. It is more of a drawing pen than a stylus.
I feel like if apple decides to address all of these 8 problems listed; the MacBook line up would not sell very well. The iPad would basically just become a glorified MacBook Pro, if they addressed the issues, that most people would prefer the iPad over the MacBook; due to its versatility of both a tablet with the capabilities of a Mac and similar price tag. This is why I think apple is holding off all of these features.
This is a really well researched video! I really appreciate you guys putting in the time and effort to come up with not the pain points, but also what a simple solution for each might be. I hope some Apple employee takes a look at this and takes it back to the drawing board! This helped me decide between a Macbook pro and an iPad. Thanks a ton!
I bought an M1 iPad Pro 12.9" just for music notation, so most of these shortcomings don't apply to my use case. However, if I were expecting Mac-like functionality from the device (especially full search capabilities and full external drive compatibility), I'd be very disappointed in my expensive purchase!
I do love this video. It gives me things to look out for, but honestly none of the problems affect me, except for the limiting amount of RAM that apps could use. It’s all about perspective and workflow like if I wanted to use my iPad as a second monitor or even use external hard drive, then yes definitely all this would be an issue, but honestly my main focus is for Procreate. Which having the 16 gigs of RAM will help with the amount of layers I can have and gaming for my toddler. He is going to be to playing the kid games, so honestly from my workflow or even lifestyle like I said none of these problems affect me so for me my choice still is to get the M1 12.9 inch screen one. Thank you for allowing me to comment. Edit: Since I made this comment, Apple has announced that they are removing the RAM hard limit for apps, so I really am sticking with my decision.
Thanks for another great review! But it’s really interesting how everyone on TH-cam is complaining about the new iPad Pro for having more power than you can use. I can’t recall this ever happening before. It’s like no one is even considering how future safe it is instead. And then we have the “blooming issue” everyone on TH-cam is talking about. I’ve had my iPad Pro for two weeks now and this “blooming” is not a real life issue. I’ve seen a lot of people try to show it here on TH-cam but in real life this is definitely not an issue.
I think it’s because they are TH-camrs so they have to edit videos etc etc but over 90% of the users don’t use any of that actually, so for most people IPadPro can yes be a laptop as well
@@RealHogweed That’s still about 1TB in 10 minutes. I don’t think there’s any industry out there today that doesn’t have that time to spare for a 1TB transfer. Even in the film industry where might deal with 300+TB transfers.
It is definitely limited but not everyone needs it for the things mentioned in the video. I am using mine 11" M1 for stocks trading and digital marketing and it is a lot more portable for use than my MBP 13". The media consumption on this device and reading on it is great too. Replying emails also is great with the Magic keyboard.
@@jadoo16815125390625 The 120Hz display is enough reason to buy it over the Air 4 + the LIDAR scanner is very handy for measuring objects :) The flashlight to is missing which is not great. The 4K 60FPS video is great for a tablet + editing it or GoPro 4K videos in LumaFusion is more than enough.
@@hristoborislavov6578 2020 iPad Pro has a lidar scanner. 4k video editing with lumafusion can also be done on 2018 iPad Pros. video editing doesn't make up for an M1 iPad Pro essentially being hamstrung by an iPhone OS. People have been specific with the OS to have more MacOS capabilities and features. Hold Apple accountable to higher standards.
My iPad Pro got here yesterday and I love it. All I use it for is media consumption, which is what people should get a tablet for. IMO if someone is getting a tablet, something that was from the get go a cool toy, to do work, they’ve made the wrong decision. All tablets are just cool things, and this one is just really cool. At some point I might go back to school, where the pencil and magic keyboard will be useful I considered getting the iPad Air, but I wanted the better monitor the pro has. No regrets. Never buy into marketing, and apple has always been about marketing
@@kathemsalah1227 I like it a lot. I even got 2 homepod minis that I put on my night stands and linked them in stereo for better sound while watching stuff in bed at night
Pro is quite a broad term. Pro doesn’t mean you’re a master video editor all the time. Pro can be defined based on how much more pro it is compared to other iPads. You could say simply writing books is ‘pro’ or artwork is pro.
Exactly yet soon they'll have to do something to boost the sales of their ipad pros. Give it time since most people will definitely head towards M1 Macbook Air.
Mine never gets hot unless I play Genshin impact on it. It would get so hot that the Apple logo would nearly burn your skin. But it’s never overheated, it just throttles the CPU down
I purchased the 12.9" M1 iPad topped out. 2TB with keyboard. It’s my first and only iPad I’ll ever own hah. Enjoying it so far, even with the flaws mentioned in this video.
Not me anymore. I am waiting on Windows 11 tablets and hopefully MS will make a good Surface Neo to go with their App enabled Win 11....then I am done with iPads. Will actually have a real tried and true computer operating system.
Just replaced my 2017 Pro with a Tab S6 instead of a M1 due to reason that it gives me much more of the computerlike experience that Apple only keeps promising 🤷🏻♂️
Apple could have shut everybody down if they put a proper operating system on the iPad they left the door wide open for Windows to take over the tablet Market if Windows 11 it is good as it's looking
But they have the Mac, so what is the point to have a clone in a tablet version? The iPad is the iPad, and being upset over what it is seems very nonsensical.
@@TaipeiGeek Apple should be able to Draw a clear line between Macs and iPads capability,iPads have such good hardware,but the software limitations are just disappointing.Think about it,you spend over 2k dollars on a 16Gigs ipad and find out u can only use 5.Apple is close to make the iPad a laptop to replacement for much more vast audience,but with these limitations and the fact that we have to wait A year for new features can be annoying.
@@ryanliu117 even though it's almost the same thing for now, iOS doesn't need as much as software upgrade like iPadOS does. Or at least, the upgrades that consumer wants. It's lacking too much
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@@polarbeargaming5615 MacBook hands down.
@@polarbeargaming5615 definitely the mac but wait for the new ones that should come out in a few months
Yeah, I use the M1 12.9” iPad Pro as my primary personal computer. I completely agree with this list. They need to address the thunderbolt port. It needs to get up to speed. They brag that you can connect external storage, but I can’t format a drive so I can use it. They brag that you can connect to an external display, but it only runs in mirror mode, and doesn’t scale. - What kills the most, is that they could fix all of this with a software update.
I’d be scared to plug in a ssd with new video footage to find it corrupted after unplugging. Nope bye
Are u using a 1tb memory if not then it only has 8gb ram the 1tb an 2tb has a 16gb ram .
its a tablet! if they make it as good as macbook than nobody will buy laptop anymore..... common sense...
Hlo sir, Should i go for ipad pro 11 inch ??...? I want ipad for studying and streaming...thats all
@@nikshaymeghwal4396 I think this is personal opinion question. You need to go to the store and feel the weight in hand. Spend some time holding it. Pull up a website, and read a couple of articles. See if you’re comfortable holding it. If I was giving buying advice to a student, I’d say get a non pro as a companion device to a M1 MacBook Air. You’ll need the desktop os and app support in your classes. While being able to draw and take pictures will help in note taking. There are awesome apps like Good Note that are powerful and super useful. Keep in mind that you’ll also need a keyboard case as well. Maybe consider an Air instead of the Pro.
You need a mac in order to use your iPad as a computer? Whoever got this idea at Apple must have had the promotion of his life!
Idk what you do on your computer but most people end up using even a $2000 laptop for web browsing and video.
Brainless people there are like give me one dollar instead of one thousand and justify it as 1 dollar looks better
Do you know that a calculator is also a computer? It is a fact you can google it if you want. By that definition what is wrong calling iPad by itself a computer?
@@super_hero2 i dont think ipad should become as computer what it needs better system enhancement
@@super_hero2 It's "technically" a computer, just a much less capable computer than a mac or windwos device. Ipad OS just can't compare
Its like having a 1000hp car but you're only allowed to drive 60.
And yet…unless you drive on a track….that’s all you’re allowed to drive anyways…..
It is more like buying a 1000hp car but they refuse to give me the key 😂
As an owner of two iPad Pros (Gen 1 and 2), who uses them for painting, I finally had enough of the Playskool OS, and spent the same money on a Galaxy Book 360. OLED screen, 15 inches, Wacom EMR pen, runs an actual operating system. Loving it. After 25 years, they finally made me buy a Windows machine. Well done, Apple.
Lol you right
the company claim the car can do 50 mpg while you're getting 20 mpg
I think Apple may have outsmarted themselves. They made an iPad Pro so powerful that it rivals the performance (and sales) of the MacBook Pro. So, the only way to prevent that bit of unforeseen unfortunateness would be to limit iPadOS. That, in turn, limits the appeal of a Pro level iPad thus encouraging consumers to opt for the cheaper iPad Air or Mini.
Yes sir! I got the iPad Air (4th Gen) with the Pencil and Smart keyboard...and spent sub $1000!
Bingo!
Apple is putting artificial limitations on the device to prevent it from eating into Mac sales.
@@tom_marsden yeah but that's dumb, ipad pro 512GB with a keyboard and a pencil costs 2000€ while a 8core 512GB MacBook air costs 1300€
And I'd much rather buy the ipad because it's amazing to draw on (and fun vs. a Wacom tablet for example) but the iOS has mad it just a bigger iphone that's it
@@PresidentValentine what you said might be true, but they don't want you to choose between them. they want you to purchase both devices and be a part of "the ecosystem" they have .... ,which would sum up to 3300€
That's exactly what happened with me. Got a cheap MacBook Air M1 and iPad Air. Maybe that's the point, push us to buy 2 devices
it's like owning a mansion but you are only allowed to sleep in the guest rooms
More like the closet
@@AdityaSingh-pe8nq a single issue was fixed
@@polycrystallinecandy Can you please dumb it down for me on the ipad issues and which ipad i should get? I just need to take notes and watch videos for my major and thats about it.
@@lolfala101 if you want to take notes and watch videos, then there shouldn't be any problems at all. I think iPad Air 2020 will work great for that. You can also get iPad pro 11 inch 2020 which doesn't cost much more than the Air. It has a smoother display and better speakers.
Just know that if you want to watch videos and take notes at the same time, then the screen might be a bit small, but it can still be done. You can get iPad pro 12.9 inch 2020, which has a bigger screen, but will cost more.
Edit: I forgot that they added quick notes in iPadOS 15, which should make it much easier to take notes while watching a video, even on a small screen, since you can get a floating window instead of splitting the screen.
Also, if you buy from Apple's Education Store you can get a student discount and there is currently an offer which gives you Airpods for free. You can get Air 2020 from there, but they only have 2021 versions of the Pro.
In summary, your options are:
- iPad Air 2020 (great overall option, free Airpods from Apple Education Store)
- iPad Pro 11 inch 2020 (slight upgrade over Air but same screen size, a bit more money, no free Airpods)
- iPad Pro 12.9 inch 2020 (bigger screen, more money, no free Airpods)
- iPad Pro 11 inch 2021 (don't think you need this, more money, but you get free Airpods)
- iPad Pro 12.9 2021 (don't think you need this, a lot more money, free Airpods)
@@polycrystallinecandy thank you so much! I started looking for the ipad 2020 but it seems that it is almost the same price as the 2021 with the educational price (pro)
Thunderbolt seems to work fine on my iPad Pro. Transferred an 8GB file in 5 seconds.
How did you format your drive? APFS?
Other people also report the problem with TB transfer speed. Constant Geekery does a good job presenting the problem with other drives as well.
How did you umount the volume? I.e. Eject it?
I am not sure that we should be satisfied that it sometime works :')
Guys I got it !!! You’ll need a higher capacity drive to handle the faster read & write speeds. So I’m thinking 1TB and 2TB models. Not the lower end storage options…
Thank you for your work. For my use, the impossible “text search” in “files” is the most annoying problem. Totally unacceptable. It really slows my productivity.
@@Oleg__ they’re using a beta version
The inability to eject drives… like, that’s just insane… thanks for calling out the problems here! Apple needs to get their shit together and fix these FUNDAMENTAL stuff in their PRO product
Lol i thought pulling out the USB drive was a streamlined apple experience thing? I check the light though to make sure its not active on my portable SSD
@@grimhammer00 it would be if it didn’t screw up the drive. Simply unplugging it would
Be ideal
@@grimhammer00 just checking the light isn't enough. The filesystem can still be in an inconsistent state.
Yep imagine corrupting a ssd with valuable video footage that gets corrupted. Bye iPad Pro ts
I'm glad someone is doing some detective work on the M1 iPad Pro instead of just gushing about the hardware. The software is showing some serious issues. What are you trying to pull, Apple?
It has NOTHING to do with M1, these issues were on the last iPad. They just never review or tested them properly cuz they are too fanboys for that.
I’ve got the m1 Mac mini with my iPad as a companion, and there are definitely problems with the M1. Nothing too awful major. Mainly connectivity problems and random stuttering when you fill up the memory which happens way faster than you’d think even with the 16 gb version.
But honestly who didn’t think there would be ANY problems?
It is still the best Mac I’ve ever had
@@marlonprice4165 It has NOTHING to do with M1, i’ve had this issues with the previous versions.
@@powerhouse884 Oh okay.
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8:11 this is a downgrade from iPadOS 13/14, the new Home Screen feels like a regression. It's 6x4 app layout compared to 6x5, you cannot pin the today view, the apps change position when rotating the iPad, and space is just badly used now...
To be fair it's not actually released yet.
i HATE the way they removed today’s view… now everything is so badly scaled and there’s just so much space left on the screen.
@@fgjhcfgg24242 yeah exactly and having the possibility to customize landscape and portrait separately is nice but sometimes you want to sync both. Or sometimes when I edit in landscape it messes up my portrait layout.
@@LUKAS-bb4jc the annoying thing about apple is first they let you have something that’s actually useful and then they take it away. these guys need to chill out fr i
@@fgjhcfgg24242 It’s like they removed some Siri Shortcuts for developers just why ??? Oh and making the phone call and data sharing both green in iOS 15 is also a weird decision
Of all the watched reviews on youtube, this is the first one I have seen that is consumer oriented, is useful and not just a parroting the sales commercial of the product.
Finally they are fixing the RAM issue
One of the biggest problem of iPad is apps. iPad apps don’t have full functionality and forces to go to web which is not touch optimized.
Thanks for all the hardwork in uncovering these shortcomings of the iPAD PROs. Most reviewers are auditioning to remain on Apple's good books, but you guys don't hold back any punches.
I was really looking forward to upgrade my 2018 iPad Pro, but I don’t see much difference in performance and I am still happy with my three year old iPad Pro
Same. I’ll stick with my 11” 2018 model. There’s literally no reason to upgrade now when it can’t really do anything better than a 3 year old iPad. It’s just a bit faster.
You've got a very capable and future proof iPad, don't bother upgrading.
And there's me looking to buy a M1 iPad Pro to use for school after using my 2012 iPad 4 ever since release :')
Apple labeling its thunderbolt port as “thunderbolt” instead of “thunderbolt 3” or “thunderbolt 4” should raise alarm in the beginning. It means it’s not certified as neither specs.
The port on macbook is also labeled as thunderbolt / usb 4 though, the same as the ipad pro. It also list thunderbolt 3 in ipad pro's technical specification.
To be honest, I’ve been saving money to get myself a 1TB version of this so I could use it as my daily driver for personal and professional use. However, whenever I dive in to purchase, I always seek your review cuz I think you’re one of the most reliable TH-camrs out here who spit facts and none other than the truth.
With the problems being said, I think I’m giving this a pass cuz I think iPad Pros are meant to be pro’s but the problems are making it look less like it and it sounds like a regular iPad to me.
I’d say, it’s a pass. Thank you Max Tech
Good ban such product
I don't think the ipad will reach macos level anytime soon. Even if it does, the m1 chip is far behind it's competitor. You're sacrificing performance for a slimmer form factor.
I'm just glad I stuck with my 11" 2020 iPad Pro.
even more glad to have purchase the 2018 version back
Me too!!!
I'm glad I bought a m1 MacBook pro
What made you felt the need to upgrade to the 2021 iPad pro to begin with when you have a fairly new iPad your-self? It makes absolutely no sense to begin with.. 😒😒
@@sonicvboom let people do whatever they want with their money salty guy. ever heard of that?
This sort of intensive testing requires hard work man!! Kudos👊🏻
This is the result of going past the return window. A brutally honest review 😝
The transfer speed is based on SSD speed to read/write.
The one in the iPad is mobile grade SSD, same as the one used in phones, configured for low power usage.
Thunderbolt won't magically makes it faster, it's however useful for 5K video signal output in the iPad case.
A SSD that is twice as slow doesn't really explain a transfer speed up to 10x slower, though. This thing has a battery whose capacity is not really that different from the one on MBA, so why not just have a proper laptop/desktop grade SSD?
The write speed of the M1 iPad Pro is 1,500MBps as seen here 3:15 but it isn't getting near that with the thunderbolt SSD test. So, your point is irrelevant. The port is limited by the software in many ways by Apple which will hopefully be enabled for full bandwidth, monitor extension, and not having a faulty drive after unplugging the drive you just used to transfer files.
@@andyH_England yes so u suddenly agree it has issues . it's much slower than it claims to be. Which has nothing to do with Samsung or previous models. It's about iPad M1
@@andyH_England they literally just told you in the video. But you seem smarter than them lol. What is much lower voltage ? Whats the difference on the air and iPad pro ? They use the same charger and has the same chip. He just told you they might be limiting it's true capabilities. Like are you ok? What do you mean we expecting to much ? Even in video rendering the old iPad pro is faster lol. If you don't see the issue you are clearly lost, for the last time tab7 has nothing to do with apple. People compare with the laptop because they have the same chip and want to replace their laptop. Nobody gives a F about talking about Samsung when it's not even relevant for our use cases. Less clicks lmao stop yourself, that's the dumbest I ever heard . Voltage between macbook air and iPad pro is the same you Brainy techie. Stop try outsmart people with dumb comments
@@andyH_England anyone in the world can make a video comparing to Samsung we are not limited to big TH-camrs. Yes it's twice as fast as previous gen but it's the combination of all the issues that makes is problematic . And by now it should already been optimised but isn't. Previous iPad didn't have these problems . Transfer speeds could be the same as the laptop even if you believe it or not. It's limited by apple. Rather get the 2020 model at its full potential than an crazy fast but limited M1 that is slower in some areas than the old one because of poor optimisation. Apps are suppose to be able to cope with any speed or be fixed.
I tried the M1 12.9 iPad with my Pro XDR display and text looked like Sh**. I returned mine. I'm rocking 2020 iPad Pro now and won't upgrade for many years if Apple doesn't fix the software weakness.
Why
If you type at night with full brightness blooming issue does occur but I don’t think anyone would do that anyways like bruh
I just want to add a huge thank you and appreciate the time and effort you've taken to compile these flaws/limitations in iPadOS vs MacOS this is exactly what I was looking for!❤️😁👍 Great content, keep up the great work!
Ok we get it, you guys have to make content and ragging on Apple gets views…this is like the 3rd or 4th video you’ve made about how much you hate the M1 iPad Pro. Weren’t you going to sell it anyways? Why keep making videos about the same issues?
For the views and clicks! I’m only hear to listen to the whining comments
I think they are going negative to get there videos out there more. They forget A lot only buy the IPad as there only computer device. It is super simple and easy to use. Why would they make it more complex to impress only like 10% of users. Apple does not make devices for Tech reviewers. They make it for the majority of consumers.
Can someone explain to me what’s the point of Thunderbolt on the iPad even with these issues? Think Apple will ever fix these issues?
They should fix the issues. And probably they will or else they would just be called as a gimmick brand and not the one with wonderful user experience.
In the next iteration, yeah. They don't have the bandwidth to do anything about it now.
They seemingly fixed the 5GB/APP RAM issue, after they got raked over the coals for it. Apple will fix issues only if more people raise these important points and hold their feet to the fire.
@@OBrandt-i5c Kudos to Max Tech then !!
@@OBrandt-i5c they should fix all the problems what do they do in the office? grow balls?
yep, the ipad software really needs some work...
it's honestly embarassing that Apple hasn't fixed any of these software issues YEARS AGO already.
The most underrated channel
I bought a 12.9” and have had it for about 2 weeks. Most of what you listed I agree with except for the blooming issue. You can only see blooming in any way shape or form if you turn the brightness all the way up and turn off the room lights. If you use auto-brightness (which is on by default) then the blooming in dark rooms is eradicated. In other words; blooming is only visible if you TRY to make it visible by manually changing settings in order to defeat the auto-brightness. Otherwise this was a great video as always Vadeem!
Brilliant, glad to see these issues being highlighted
38 seconds is slow? Damn. Waiting for a burrito to heat up in a microwave for two minutes must be an eternity for you
Burrito doesn’t cost 1500 dollars
You have the best channel about apple products!
Ugh. I’ve been using my early 2013 MBP 15” for a while now. I use it for photo editing, it still runs Lightroom and Photoshop very well for my needs, but since Apple doesn’t update this model anymore, I’ve been thinking about upgrading. At first the M1 iPad looks very pleasing, but from this video (and all your other M1 iPad videos) it looks like it’s better off to wait till they update the 16 MBP to M1 or till Apple adds more Pro features on this iPad! :(
If you do actual work, get an actual computer. Apple will never let their iPad cross over into Mac territory. That would defeat the purpose of product segmentation, and that’s bad business. Peoples’ expectations are just not rooted in reality. Wait for that new M1 MacBook Pro with the big monitor. I bet it’ll slap the hell out of your current one
To be honest I use the iPad Pro for making notes and typing up documents ready for my apps on my M1 Mac mini when away from home. If there is a lot of videos from an event I need to transfer, I simply use the iCloud to sync my files across to appear on my Mac mini. I’ve not used an external hard drive for transfer in years. Now that everything is online now to the cloud storage especially with Fiber optic broadband pretty much everywhere now it’s easier to transfer this way.
This really should be called “(a not so) iPad Pro”….
The campaign should your next computer is not a computer( sorta kinda)
Me : *Gets a 256GB 11" 2021 Pro
YT : Starts showing all videos with "ipad 2021 problems"
*FML*
I liked this video so that it gets recommended and that people know that the iPad isn't that good without proper software.
Excellent review and analysis -- target! Like watching an honest after-action review at the National Training Center... let's hope the lessons are actually learned and solutions implemented soon.
All are important issues!
Relocating the camera will be a new “feature”
They will have to rotate the Apple logo on the back too
Great video as always!
I hope someone at Apple watches this
I just watched after I ordered one last night lol. Have any of these issues been resolved?
Oh no, 38 seconds for a 16gb file transfer!
Unless you use huge files, anything under a minute is great.
Imagine transferring files at pc in like 29 minutes and seeing people complain for 38 seconds. This is hillarious😂😂😂😂😂😂
Geez talk about restrictions! Thank you for this review. 😎
These are great complaints and I really hope Apple sees this video and implements updates
Great insights mate. On point.
After saw them launch the M1 ipad Pro, it seem like a test product to receive what feedbacks. If Steve job still alive, he will get mad and don't let this happen. Too bad, I really wish they can launch a complete product. Not just keep updating their ios to fix things, but hope they can launch a new ios with surpass features like what Apple did before....
If he was alive we wouldn’t even have the Apple Pencil, he despised styluses.
@@Toyeboy89 Nowaday Apple give me fee like lack of innovation, they are the giant in microtech, but look at what they doing just way behind other competitivor. Hmm... Where is their moneys had gone.
@@Toyeboy89 by “stylus”, he meant one that came with a small phone screen and was the only input. His version of “a stylus” was a narrow metal finger. The Apple Pencil is a drawing pen that is NOT the main source of input and is not used on small screens either. It has pressure sensitivity and tilt. It is more of a drawing pen than a stylus.
Super helpful, bro, thanks so much!
2 in 1 PC’s have become viable and nevermore appealing.
Windows imo is a terrible tablet experience, but I hope Windows 11 changes that - Nervous Surface Pro 7 user
You are the Best of the Best of all the APPLE reviewers. Thank you for your
hard work. You make it fun and interesting.
I feel like if apple decides to address all of these 8 problems listed; the MacBook line up would not sell very well. The iPad would basically just become a glorified MacBook Pro, if they addressed the issues, that most people would prefer the iPad over the MacBook; due to its versatility of both a tablet with the capabilities of a Mac and similar price tag. This is why I think apple is holding off all of these features.
Finally someone adressing these issues...its been a hassle for over two years...
Why didn’t you format the external drive APFS on the Mac?
This is a really well researched video! I really appreciate you guys putting in the time and effort to come up with not the pain points, but also what a simple solution for each might be.
I hope some Apple employee takes a look at this and takes it back to the drawing board!
This helped me decide between a Macbook pro and an iPad. Thanks a ton!
going to hold off from purchasing one now...thanks for your video
3:13 I think something is wrong with your storage.
My 11" M1 Pro gives 2200MB/s & 3000MB/s Write & Read respectively (it's a 256GB model)
I bought an M1 iPad Pro 12.9" just for music notation, so most of these shortcomings don't apply to my use case. However, if I were expecting Mac-like functionality from the device (especially full search capabilities and full external drive compatibility), I'd be very disappointed in my expensive purchase!
Oooh what a bummer! 😣 Thanx for this straightforward review
I thought you guys had already sold that iPad Pro
Thank u for being so honest
I do love this video. It gives me things to look out for, but honestly none of the problems affect me, except for the limiting amount of RAM that apps could use. It’s all about perspective and workflow like if I wanted to use my iPad as a second monitor or even use external hard drive, then yes definitely all this would be an issue, but honestly my main focus is for Procreate. Which having the 16 gigs of RAM will help with the amount of layers I can have and gaming for my toddler. He is going to be to playing the kid games, so honestly from my workflow or even lifestyle like I said none of these problems affect me so for me my choice still is to get the M1 12.9 inch screen one. Thank you for allowing me to comment.
Edit: Since I made this comment, Apple has announced that they are removing the RAM hard limit for apps, so I really am sticking with my decision.
9:39 captain America and Thor together 🤣🤣
Definitely enjoy your videos because you aren’t not a Apple evangelist. You just say as it is, somethings products are amazing sometimes they are not
Very helpful I'll be patient to choose which if any I'm going to grav
Thanks for another great review! But it’s really interesting how everyone on TH-cam is complaining about the new iPad Pro for having more power than you can use. I can’t recall this ever happening before. It’s like no one is even considering how future safe it is instead. And then we have the “blooming issue” everyone on TH-cam is talking about. I’ve had my iPad Pro for two weeks now and this “blooming” is not a real life issue. I’ve seen a lot of people try to show it here on TH-cam but in real life this is definitely not an issue.
I think it’s because they are TH-camrs so they have to edit videos etc etc but over 90% of the users don’t use any of that actually, so for most people IPadPro can yes be a laptop as well
Thank you for this... I was about yo buy one...
I mean, we _are_ a little spoiled when we think of 16GB transferred in 38 seconds as slow…
It depends on how you use the device. A professional content creator would probably need to transfer even heavier files
@@RealHogweed That’s still about 1TB in 10 minutes. I don’t think there’s any industry out there today that doesn’t have that time to spare for a 1TB transfer. Even in the film industry where might deal with 300+TB transfers.
Very informative bro thanks
It is definitely limited but not everyone needs it for the things mentioned in the video. I am using mine 11" M1 for stocks trading and digital marketing and it is a lot more portable for use than my MBP 13". The media consumption on this device and reading on it is great too. Replying emails also is great with the Magic keyboard.
You would probably be just fine using a non pro iPad. People looking to buy this device are looking for pro features.
@@jadoo16815125390625 The 120Hz display is enough reason to buy it over the Air 4 + the LIDAR scanner is very handy for measuring objects :) The flashlight to is missing which is not great. The 4K 60FPS video is great for a tablet + editing it or GoPro 4K videos in LumaFusion is more than enough.
You can use regular iPads to do those things.
What is the point of the $2,000+ M1 iPad "Pro" line?
@@hristoborislavov6578 2020 iPad Pro has a lidar scanner. 4k video editing with lumafusion can also be done on 2018 iPad Pros.
video editing doesn't make up for an M1 iPad Pro essentially being hamstrung by an iPhone OS.
People have been specific with the OS to have more MacOS capabilities and features.
Hold Apple accountable to higher standards.
Thank you so much for this video! Please keep updating us if you find any further information or updates on existing problems.
thanks was just going to buy this based off the hype train lol
Good review
The file management and hard drive compatibility is a joke, they never should have included it in such a state. And it’s been here for years. Pathetic
Thank you. Best video about the new iPad.
Im so glad i didnt upgrade from my 2020 ipad pro to the m1 ipad. Wouldve just been a waste of money
How’s the front facing camera? Comparable to iPhone 12? For selfie video specifically
Very few youtubers r left who r honest 💫👏 💯 ✨
Great video! I would love to see how the new ipad pro compares to the Mac Mini.
I don't get what the fuss is all about... we got WIDGETS people! WIDGETS!
Great info thank you
I'm glad I kept my Air 4. It's doing everything I need. Sounds like the M1 Pros need to bake a little longer.
My iPad Pro got here yesterday and I love it. All I use it for is media consumption, which is what people should get a tablet for. IMO if someone is getting a tablet, something that was from the get go a cool toy, to do work, they’ve made the wrong decision. All tablets are just cool things, and this one is just really cool. At some point I might go back to school, where the pencil and magic keyboard will be useful
I considered getting the iPad Air, but I wanted the better monitor the pro has. No regrets. Never buy into marketing, and apple has always been about marketing
@@berengerchristy6256 what are your thoughts after 2 months of using?
@@kathemsalah1227 I like it a lot. I even got 2 homepod minis that I put on my night stands and linked them in stereo for better sound while watching stuff in bed at night
ipados 15 is not out yet, why you guys complain
Why doesn’t Apple want the iPad Pro to be Pro? Because they want to sell you a Mac.
Pro is quite a broad term. Pro doesn’t mean you’re a master video editor all the time. Pro can be defined based on how much more pro it is compared to other iPads. You could say simply writing books is ‘pro’ or artwork is pro.
Exactly yet soon they'll have to do something to boost the sales of their ipad pros. Give it time since most people will definitely head towards M1 Macbook Air.
My 2021 iPad Pro 2021 gets really hot doing a lot of basic tasks.
Mine never gets hot unless I play Genshin impact on it. It would get so hot that the Apple logo would nearly burn your skin. But it’s never overheated, it just throttles the CPU down
Great review. iPad OS 15 is a huge disappointment.
Best real life review brother
You saved many others
This video is why I’m happy I resisted the impulse to trade in my 2020 iPP for a 2021 model when they were announced.
Same, I was very tempted but I’m glad I didn’t. The only thing I’d really like is the better brightness but I can’t complain
@@uuuu260 the hdr is wonderful. The monitor is the whole reason I got mine, and I love it
Thank you for telling us!!
Does anyone experience warm issues on the left side of the glass while doing normal use (opposite to the apple pencil place)? (I got the M1 12.9 inch)
I haven’t had that issue on my m1 12.9
That is the display driver, will heat up with high screen brightness I would assume. It never is uncomfortable to me tough.
I use the 11 inch one and I have the same problem. Does your ipad run out of battery quickly?
I have not noticed that with my 11
Haven’t had that issue with editing, painting and such for long periods of time
Exactly taking mine back
I purchased the 12.9" M1 iPad topped out. 2TB with keyboard. It’s my first and only iPad I’ll ever own hah. Enjoying it so far, even with the flaws mentioned in this video.
How’s it going so far? I’m planning to buy it
Isn't the iPad OS you are talking about still in beta?
apple treats us like this and we still be coming back... they got us guys
Exactly.. they make some things brilliant and other things equally frustrating.. a person can't leave them but never really likes them
It's because "this" is the best hardware and software you can get in a tablet... period.
@@77dris i think best hardware but software!!
Not me anymore.
I am waiting on Windows 11 tablets and hopefully MS will make a good Surface Neo to go with their App enabled Win 11....then I am done with iPads. Will actually have a real tried and true computer operating system.
This is an excellent video.
Just replaced my 2017 Pro with a Tab S6 instead of a M1 due to reason that it gives me much more of the computerlike experience that Apple only keeps promising 🤷🏻♂️
same..
can you run ubuntu or some real os on it?
Apple could have shut everybody down if they put a proper operating system on the iPad they left the door wide open for Windows to take over the tablet Market if Windows 11 it is good as it's looking
But they have the Mac, so what is the point to have a clone in a tablet version? The iPad is the iPad, and being upset over what it is seems very nonsensical.
@@TaipeiGeek Apple should be able to Draw a clear line between Macs and iPads capability,iPads have such good hardware,but the software limitations are just disappointing.Think about it,you spend over 2k dollars on a 16Gigs ipad and find out u can only use 5.Apple is close to make the iPad a laptop to replacement for much more vast audience,but with these limitations and the fact that we have to wait A year for new features can be annoying.
Please don’t bring up Windows tablets in the same conversation and an iPad it’s insulting to the far superior iPad tablet experience.
I planned to buy this coming December but those issues you mentioned got me thinking twice.
iOS limitation kill it .
You mean iPadOS
@@mocha6315 almost same thing
Yup.
Your grammar kills me.
@@ryanliu117 even though it's almost the same thing for now, iOS doesn't need as much as software upgrade like iPadOS does. Or at least, the upgrades that consumer wants. It's lacking too much