Why You Need Winter Housing for Your Pastured Farm | Joel Salatin

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  • Pasture raising animals is the dream when it comes to healing the soil, community, and our health. For most farmers, winter is one of the biggest setbacks to that goal. In this excerpt from Joel Salatin's Carbonaceous Diaper course, he discusses why winter housing is beneficial and can be done in a healthy manner while still being productive and beneficial to your farm.
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  • @darrelpelham
    @darrelpelham หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    As our ministry just bought a Barndominium and 7 acres in NW GA, and I'm currently turning our garden for its 1st use, this video was very timely. Thanks Joel!

  • @tawandag5386
    @tawandag5386 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Greetings from Zimbabwe 30 year old farmer currently into goat and sheep farming, your content inspires me to do more, ❤

  • @jpdunamislodge
    @jpdunamislodge หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We’re located up here in Central Alaska south of Anchorage on the Kenai Peninsula. Winter is for real and winter sheltering is a must for sure up here in our neck of the woods. We are getting ready to start our farm and looking at all of our options right now. Great channel Sir. 👍🏻

  • @bobburkinshaw9408
    @bobburkinshaw9408 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Interesting! I tend to agree with your reasons but know that many ranchers in northern Canada (e.g, my nephew in the far north of British Columbia) and Steve Kenyon in Northern Alberta (I believe that you and Steve have spoken at the same conferences) keep their cattle outside all winter. The ground is frozen and, after they have cleaned up any winter pasture, the cattle consume the large round bales of hay that have been strategically placed in pastures where the ranchers want to see the soil enriched. The ranchers argue that the cattle handle the cold well (it can get as cold as -40 F degrees) and experience less sickness than they would if inside. Also, I know that Greg Judy keeps his cattle outside all winter in Missouri where the soil likely goes through a number of freeze and thaw cycles in the winter. I am not sure what sorts of problems he has with pugging.

    • @et6036
      @et6036 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      If I remember correctly, Greg Judy attributes the lack of pugging to the lower weight of his cattle, high pasture coverage of mature grasses with strong root systems, and frequent rotations. His bulls top out around 1100-1200 and his cows around 900, so that is a lot less weight on each hoof than the standard angus.
      I too believe that if cattle require shelter in the winter there is a problem with the breed or the management. Developing livestock that are suited to your climate and managing them well is an important cornerstone of sustainable farming.

    • @thazen73
      @thazen73 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Was wondering how most ranchers would house all their 100 head of cattle in the winter. If bad storms come here in NM then I have then wind blocks along with round bales.

    • @Earth_Care_Cowboy
      @Earth_Care_Cowboy หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@et6036that’s correct

    • @Marilou-g5t
      @Marilou-g5t หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@et6036well said. Barns even farther north than Joel, northcentral PA, cattle get pneumonia is a barn.

    • @Marilou-g5t
      @Marilou-g5t หลายเดือนก่อน

      In not is

  • @beelerfamilyfarm
    @beelerfamilyfarm หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    All good and valid points. Winter for us here in Missouri means spot seeding pastures and letting them ready themselves for spring growth. We keep the few steers in our dry lot and loafing shed to manage all the things he you discussed. Also gives us a good way to build the annual compost pile area.

  • @michaelmueller1772
    @michaelmueller1772 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Agreed. Low-cost hoop structures work great for shelters.
    I do give our animals the choice to be outside or shelter indoors, but it is there for them.

  • @antonhuman8446
    @antonhuman8446 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Many thanks. As always.
    Richest blessings.
    From South Africa.

    • @johnfitbyfaithnet
      @johnfitbyfaithnet หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Merry Christmas and blessings from Texas!

  • @practicalsheepman
    @practicalsheepman หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Hey Joel,
    I run my mature ewes outside year around here in The Finger Lakes region of NY State. It is Christmas eve and they are out grazing aftermath on a hayfield. It was -6 F yesterday morning, Frozen ground is your friend. When I run out of grass, hay is unrolled in paddocks that need improvement. If sheep have a fleece on them, can get out of the wind, and are adapted to the environment they are much better off not confined in a building. I use portable windbreaks if the ewes are in an area that has no natural wind protection. The animals stay cleaner and better insulated without the expense of bedding and manure hauling and spreading. The outside air is better for them than in a barn with often less than ideal ventilation. Water is available to them every day using frost free hydrants. If we have an ice storm, I bring in the ewes and let them stand under cover in our handling facility but they can't live there. Keeping the mob moving and using your better drained areas strategically goes a long way to minimize pugging. When greenup starts here about April 1st I move my ewes to a dry lot. Otherwise they will nip off new green grass sprouts as quick as they emerge and ignore hay while losing weight during the critical last 1/3 of gestation. Dry lotting the ewes in early spring allows my paddocks to get a head start before I begin grazing with daily or more frequent moves. While the welfare of the animals is a primary consideration, the economics and necessity of housing is questionable for many operations. I find this video disturbing. With your mainstream notoriety, animal activists will be citing your views and creating trouble for regenerative livestock operations. What makes sense for your operation doesn't necessarily apply to many of the rest of us. I hope you will make that clear in an edit to this video.

    • @georgeheller2281
      @georgeheller2281 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I agree 💯, he really over looked the soil health principle called, Context! Pretty disappointed with this video.

    • @Marilou-g5t
      @Marilou-g5t หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@georgeheller2281well said!

    • @tomvalentine9985
      @tomvalentine9985 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      He is talking about his own method at his place and so the point of context is subliminally addressed. I didn't hear him say anywhere that viewers must do this and people watching that have a grasp and interest in regenerative ag will understand and appreciate his point that pastured livestock practitioners are in danger of getting themselves into a locked paradigm where no housing is acceptable ever in any circumstance yourself ignoring the context issue that you are complaining about.

    • @georgeheller2281
      @georgeheller2281 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @tomvalentine9985 the title of the video is , "why you need winter housing for your pastured farm" sounds alot like telling others what is needed.

    • @tomvalentine9985
      @tomvalentine9985 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@georgeheller2281 it's some valid reasons for housing or shelter I didn't take it to mean it was mandatory george despite the title. I've tried to get water to outdoor pigs in fields in the middle of a freezing January and I can tell you it was no fun for me or the pigs.

  • @_j_dog
    @_j_dog หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Read one of Joe's books, he goes into great detail on this issues and it's extremely enlightening.

  • @PhoenixFarm
    @PhoenixFarm หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I live just outside of Winnipeg, MB which is zone 3a which gets down to -40F. Only -18F now lol. I built a 32 by 16 foot deep winter greenhouse with a 14 ft pond 4 ft deep with a waterfall for my 5 ducks and 4 chickens. It’s my first year with the flock I hatched this past spring and fall. The greenhouse is attached to the east side of a 26 x 16 foot garage where the chickens (not ducks anymore!) have 10 feet of indoor coop space. After the Indian runner ducks trampled and pecked to death one of my Hmong chicks at 9 weeks old, then swallowed whole a Polish Tollbunt chick at 11 weeks old, I decided to not allow the ducks “inside”. Just a heads up on co-habitating chicks with predatory and territorial runner ducks lol.

  • @normabumbaugh6929
    @normabumbaugh6929 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I’ve been sitting here bored anticipating our first year of rotational grazing. Excellent point that I should be using this time as a "launch pad ". Thank you Joel AND crew for your hardwork and diligence in teaching the neophytes such as myself. Merry Christmas and God Bless!

  • @eveadame1059
    @eveadame1059 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    ❄️Thank you for talking about, making winter comfortable and safe for our livestock and chickens

  • @ericsplace3004
    @ericsplace3004 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video!

  • @robinkleinsteuber5217
    @robinkleinsteuber5217 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Merry Christmas! 🙂🎄❄️☃️🍾

  • @afarmlife
    @afarmlife หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is the exact thing that led to the way animals are raised. Farmers wanted to improve the way animals were raised and make the job easier to manage. Money has turned it into a practice that no longer centers around the animals best well being. And that's consumer demand for cheap food when I say money because that's what drove the market!

  • @johnfitbyfaithnet
    @johnfitbyfaithnet หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Merry Christmas

  • @buggyridge
    @buggyridge หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Tell that to my Belted Galloways! They'd calve in the middle of a blizzard and -50 windchill.

    • @jayhedtke1012
      @jayhedtke1012 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So would my british whites!

  • @Earth_Care_Cowboy
    @Earth_Care_Cowboy หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I really only noticed a few pigs and a greenhouse full of chickens in the video. Carbonaceous Diaper is a great concept. $400 is allot to spend on a class tho.

  • @steveruby2120
    @steveruby2120 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I know every farm is different. Like Greg Judy's farm, you've mentioned him, he grazes all winter, with some hay sometimes, without barns and his cattle get along great, sometimes even gaining weight in winter. I've heard you say you run as many as 1000 head of cattle. Do you really have enough barns to house that many cattle? God bless you and The Poly face family.

    • @janetk3611
      @janetk3611 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Greg has mentioned that his sheep do even better in the winter.

    • @practicalsheepman
      @practicalsheepman หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I communicated with a former Polyface Farm employee today who said that his beef cattle stay outside at multiple locations. Only swine and poultry are housed. I think The Lunatic Farmer is full of it.

    • @steveruby2120
      @steveruby2120 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@practicalsheepman I know he keeps cattle under cover at the home place. I was just wondering about the other cattle at the several rented farms.

    • @jackiewilliams7950
      @jackiewilliams7950 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Love Joel and his info. But I'm confused. I started raising cattle 7 years ago. On my farm is an old dairy barn built in the 50s that was big enough to house 120 dairy cattle. I thought I was so fortunate that my 65 head of beef cattle would have a dry place out of the wind and snow. But the lot outside the barn would always become a big soupy mess of manure and urine. And every winter I'd be dragging 2 or 3 cows out of the barn that laid down and died. 2 winters ago after I started following Greg Judy I shut the barn off to the cattle. Rotated them on grass all winter and have not lost one since. Think I'll keep doing what I'm doing with the cattle. Maybe pigs in the barn is what I should do

  • @thewildlayman
    @thewildlayman หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is where I differ from Joel. My sheep will live outside all winter. Any animal that can't handle the weather doesn't belong in my program. My sheep are currently munching hay in a brushy area Im converting to pasture. Im a bit more like Greg Judy in that regard. Joel is a little more "old-school" in his approach.

  • @j.b.1855
    @j.b.1855 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I can't afford to build winter housing here in upstate NY. We bale graze cattle and pick a sacrifice area to feed on. Cows eat balage and we unroll poorer quality dry hay for bedding and erosion control. Muddy winters are the worst. If the ground is froze I don't hesitate to feed the cattle right out on a hay field.

  • @dantheman9135
    @dantheman9135 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ThankQ

  • @larson0014
    @larson0014 หลายเดือนก่อน

    videos always focus on summer farming but glad were talking about the other half of the year when its not as enjoyable, least up north

  • @kimnenninger7226
    @kimnenninger7226 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good video, I think people don't realize how nice it is for animals to have shelter.
    We live in Arizona where the weather is very agreeable. Despite the great weather we put in a three sided shed with a roof. The horses love it and use it every day.
    We now have shelters for all of our animals.

    • @michaelmay6859
      @michaelmay6859 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Most people don’t know how inhospitable a barn is for cattle. If you’re moving your cattle to minimize pugging and using the placement of feed to focus fertility placement on areas that need it, cattle should be comfortable to very low temperatures. Bringing smaller livestock in can make sense but cattle are designed to survive outside in the cold.

  • @RobertFredman-ld6kc
    @RobertFredman-ld6kc หลายเดือนก่อน

    Joel quick question. When you buy cows do you worm or keep them separate from the herd you already have

  • @scotthunter1591
    @scotthunter1591 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Perhaps he should have explained his setup more thoroughly. The shelter he houses his cows in in the winter is a giant open air shed loaded with several feet of dry wood chips, which readily soak up the manure and urine. You could have simply stated that this particular system isn’t for you and that would have been fine, but to say the video is disturbing and that it will generate for him extra attention from people who oppose him on every issue already is silly. He has proven his methods are viable over the past several decades

    • @practicalsheepman
      @practicalsheepman หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey Scotty, maybe Joel should have titled the video something like, "How we winter livestock at Polyface Farm" instead of "Why you need winter housing at your pastured farm"? Salatin is losing a lot of regenerative grazing followers over this video.

  • @hillockfarm8404
    @hillockfarm8404 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Between wintermud and wolves (that have nothing else of size to eat but livestockpretty much by now) my animals would be inside at night year round. Rain has been 125% or so of normal, there is no dry area outside to overwinter or overnight livestock on other then a barn/shelter.

  • @dungeonmaster6292
    @dungeonmaster6292 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    This isn't going to be one of Joel's more popular takes

    • @michaelmay6859
      @michaelmay6859 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Mainly because it’s not well thought out.

    • @dungeonmaster6292
      @dungeonmaster6292 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @michaelmay6859 it's abominable

  • @rarestoration
    @rarestoration หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Perhaps for your social and economic context… with the right heritage breed and grazing management you don’t have those issues.

  • @jamesrebanks6194
    @jamesrebanks6194 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    With respect, to Joel, totally disagree on cattle side… do whatever you like, but the logic is weak on every point… the out wintering being criticised isn’t the optimal kind of out wintering someone like Greg Judy does and champions
    On every point they’re optimally outside IF done right… the prop of the barn stops people learning how to do it better outside - longer covers, deeper roots, mid summer thatch, more suitably sized cattle, quick movement and great management - we’ve done this for five years on land with all the same issues and none of the negatives happen
    We winter housed for decades before that and I can honestly say it’s crap compared to the best out-wintering practices

  • @Getawaymoments
    @Getawaymoments หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    But but but .... did the buffalo have a shed?
    I want to see the Netflix winter livestock rumble ....
    One round, Joel vs Greg Judy.
    Who will win?
    Sorry Joel, but the barn full of poo seems like an idea you talk yourself into, keeping the herd out on the grass moving makes more sense unless you're talking dairy.
    Rumble!!!!

    • @Marilou-g5t
      @Marilou-g5t หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Dairy cattle closed up in a free-free barn get pneumonia. I was a dairy farm kid and worker for 50+ years. A barn is a bad idea for housing.

    • @Marilou-g5t
      @Marilou-g5t หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Freeze free

    • @Getawaymoments
      @Getawaymoments หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Marilou-g5t Right, I really meant for feeding and milking. I grew up in Virginia north of Polyface and it is not a severe cold region. Rare for snow to hang around for extended periods.

    • @Marilou-g5t
      @Marilou-g5t หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Getawaymoments feeding grain grows hooves and horns. Much better nutrients in meat when adaptively graized on multispecies paddocks. See Stefan Van Vliet's nutrient testing and Peter Byck's reporting of various studies.

    • @practicalsheepman
      @practicalsheepman หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Marilou-g5t What really grows hooves is standing on a bedded manure pack instead of walking around on frozen ground.

  • @dirkbogarde7796
    @dirkbogarde7796 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    All animals prefer wooden walls and warmth to concrete and the cold.

  • @danielrempel9839
    @danielrempel9839 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Havnt even watched the video but this seems like a dumb take.

    • @Mister_Underhill
      @Mister_Underhill หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Well, thats a dumb take. What is missing here is context and motivation. Salatin wants the soil for compost and uses wood chips to keep things sanitary. It works. For him. There is no end all be all in this business.

    • @michaelmay6859
      @michaelmay6859 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Mister_Underhillthat and he feeds a small herd of cattle. He’s not winter housing 400 head on a carbonaceous diaper.

    • @Mister_Underhill
      @Mister_Underhill หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@michaelmay6859 yes. Context is everything. 👍

    • @AWesker99
      @AWesker99 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      What's really dumb is having a take without watching the video.