lots of familiar charging stops, we did the trip about a year ago, and interesting to see the changes since we did the trip. there was no fast charging between Broken Hill to just outside Perth. at William's, Supercharger. Kimba was a 5 hr charge for us.
Me & my Son Drove form Perth to Ocean Shores (50k's south of Tweed Heads) in a Toyota Corolla. We left Perth 6pm Friday & were home 2 pm Monday, the longest We stopped to Refuel was 4 minutes, ( not counting Food & Sight Seeing) ! First night we slept in the car at Norsman, next night Porta Gutter, next night Gunnadah, then home Monday! & no We didn't stick to the Speed Limit!! 4295k's
We have two Tesla’s. I think there is still too much planning involved for travelling long distances due to the limited supercharger footprint in Australia. It’s not an issue for us because we don’t do cross country road trips but it’s definitely I big problem.
Hi. The charging landscape is changing very quickly. Quite likely if you do the journey across to Perth in a few years time it will be DC fast chargers all the way. No more 3-phase! I see since I did the journey there is DC fast charging now at Norseman, Port Augusta and Nullarbor Roadhouse where previously it was slower AC.
I would have to say I also apreciated the free charging on NRMA. So much so I have insured my car with them. I like supporting businesses that support me :)
Plug share is amazing just make sure you have all your cables and portable charger and you can charge at any power outlet. I have done Gold Coast to Adelaide and back as well as Gold Coast to Charlieville and back. Where ever a caravan park is you have a charging service just rent a site. On both my trips I never had to use the portable charger and only was on AC (destination charger) once and that was to charlieville. The Nullabor is a trip im also looking to do from the Gold Coast. Might even go the full around Australia trip while im at it. Ill probably wait for when I buy the Model Y as my Model 3 wont be great at camping.
We stayed in Nyngan about 8 months ago before they installed the fast chargers, we had come from broken hill so had a cabin at the caravan park and charged from the 15amp came site outlet.
There are caravan parks littered across Australia and they are not normally listed on Plugshare. A powered site is a great option to charge at a 15A caravan socket. Even if you are staying in a Motel nearby the caravan park management are receptive to you leaving your EV overnight on a powered site.
Great video I do this trip often (reverse direction) and am looking at an EV for my next car. Once WAs electric highway is fully built we’ll have decent charging to the borders. Btw, some pronunciations of SA and WA towns need work lol (eg Norseman not Nooseman)
Correct. The really remote roadhouses are not on the electricity grid so have to be self reliant using a combination of solar and diesel generators for electricity supply.
In Australia, we really need a car driven by power of flies, well, hopefully, we will be flying on the backs of flies. That is how many of them in this country and no one want to tell you about it.
Wth I didn't know you could get a 3phase direct plug charger. Holy shit how come no one talks about this. Basically charge anywhere there is access to 3 phase power plug. Just opens up the ev range in au Soo much !!!
Thank you for posting this video. Really shows the critics that this kind of trip can be done. One random question… where did you get your wheel covers? Do you like them.
Hi Renny. The hubcaps are Razors. Yes they are great. They sit over the lip of the rim and protect the rim if you scape a gutter or something. Got them from Tessories but they don't seem to stock them now. I see them at tesdaddy.com.au/products/19-razor-wheel-covers-matt-black-for-model-y
Hi Peter. As of today you have four charging options within a 500m radius of which one of those charging options is a DC fast charger at Kingsbury Park. Check plugshare.com as the charging infrastructure is constantly improving. The Kingsbury Park DC fast charger was commissioned in March this year. I probably would charge there if I was stopping through Kalgoorlie again rather than use the overnight street charging.
Hi. 3 phase is 415 volts and the type 2 AC connector delivers 240v in a single phase so you do need electrical supply equipment in the middle to make that electrical change. I have an explanation of 3-phase and the EV supply equipment required in my video [Day 0 Tesla Y 2023 Road Trip - Planning]. Check th-cam.com/video/QbwQu9PFXwc/w-d-xo.html video starting at the 4min mark.
Hi Raymond On my TH-cam video [Debrief Tesla Y 2023 Road Trip - Crossing Australia] I talk about what charging equipment I took and what I ended up using at 1min01sec in. Link to that position is here: th-cam.com/video/9qMAQnfjp7I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=6FK58yXDcNVjVk32&t=61 You can get what cables/charging supply equipment you need for remote travelling from here evchargers.com.au/product/portable-charger-3-phase-bundle/
Hi planning for long trip what are the cable I need to buy and Is have spare wheel or puncture repair kid which one you will recommend thanks love your video 👌👌👍🏽
Hi, If you are travelling remotely you'll most likely will need 3-phase supply equipment. On my TH-cam video [Debrief Tesla Y 2023 Road Trip - Crossing Australia] I talk about what charging equipment I took and what I ended up using at 1min01sec in. Link to that position is here: th-cam.com/video/9qMAQnfjp7I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=6FK58yXDcNVjVk32&t=61 I did not take a spare wheel but took a Tyre Plug Kit and also the Tesla Tyre Repair Kit. Also took out a an NRMA Ultimate Care Road Assistance policy which gives me 24x7 Australia wide coverage with the first 100km towing free. I discuss these items in my TH-cam video [Day 0 Tesla Y 2023 Road Trip - Planning] at 8min20sec in. Link to that position is here: th-cam.com/video/QbwQu9PFXwc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=PtV-FTMoimzMzOwx&t=494
15A extension cord as the caravan sockets won't accept the Tesla UMC 90degree bend on their plug. Get a heavy duty cord from Bunnings. Also you'll need a type 2 to type 2 cable as a number of AC chargers were bring your own cable.
Wow, great drive John. My wife and I took our first test drive in a Tesla Y & 3 yesterday at the Mt Gravatt Tesla Centre in Queensland. Amazing cars. The Model Y is our car of choice. We are trying to convince ourselves that we can afford it. A Question is your Y a standard Range or Long Range? My wife isn't a road tripper, but here first thing after the drive was that she can't wait to do a road trip. Look forward to your next adventure.
Hi Raymond. My Tesla Y is a standard range which is ample for road tripping. Good for 300km+ between charging stops which was not an issue travelling the 9,800km return trip from one side of the country to another. The standard range is an LFP battery which you can charge to 100% regularly - even daily. The long range uses an NMC battery which Tesla recommends charging to 90% except on long trips. So for the majority use case of daily commuting / local trips there is not much difference in range if you charge the battery normally. Personally I could not justify the AUD$13K difference in price for an extra 80km range or so.
@@EV_John I've just finished watching all your videos. Very inspiring. Unlike what a lot of people think, you can do these sort of road trips in our big vast land, today. But in the years to come, when Fast DC charges are much more common and even 7/11/22kW AC chargers it will make it a so much easier for the general traveller. It makes me think a trip for us to Longreach is a walk in the park. I hope to someday go from Brisbane-Sydney-Melbourne-Perth and back and see more of our amazing country. Thanks John.
Hey, I too went on a test drive of a Model Y and have placed an order just yesterday. I just ordered the standard rear wheel drive version which states a 455km range. My reason was to keep the price under $70k for the $3500 government rebate, but I am also novating the car through my work and with the waiving of FBT makes it a very cheap option. I also tried the Model Y performance just to see what it was like and man, the acceleration just pins you back in your seat. I can't justify the $92K price tag though, haha. You might also want to find someone with a referral code, you'll get another $750 off which will cover the cost of a mobile charger, plus some and the referrer also gets 10,000 points to redeem from the Tesla shop.
Interesting video thanks. What 3 phase tails did you use? I've looked at getting the whole set, which is expensive so wondering what the minimum you'd need is.
Hi. If I'm outback I use wikicamps.com.au/ app to see what camping is in the area. Otherwise if I need to charge overnight I look at www.plugshare.com/ and see caravan park or motel with EV charging facilities is nearby. If travelling I book on the day that I will be staying after I know I definitely will make it there, which is usually around midday. Yes I do get caught out with no vacancies from time to time but there generally there are alternatives.
I haven't removed them yet, though will need to do so shortly for a wheel rotation. They don't seem brittle, I would be surprised if they break easily.
I have changed my tails on the portable chargers many times and have done so for over a year now. Changed well over 50 times. The tails haven't been a problem at all just pull them out and push them in. I havent experienced mine get brittle at all.
On this Sydney-Perth-Sydney trip I did not take a spare tyre. I address what I would do if I had a puncture here: Day 0 Tesla Y 2023 Road Trip - Planning@8m20s th-cam.com/video/QbwQu9PFXwc/w-d-xo.html That said I do now carry a spare tyre for remote trips. See here: Tesla Y Roadtrip 2024 Australian Snowy Mountains@3min43s th-cam.com/video/WPBS6IMlWOY/w-d-xo.html
What a nightmare. Sounds like you spent most of your time worrying where charge up. The fuel savings were spent on accommodation and food. Im glad you werent in a hurry
Did you watch the show? Sydney to Kalgoorlie for $282. A petrol car would of been comfortably $600 probably more so even if he took 2 extra nights at $100 ish per night he’s in front, still in front after eating out.
Where do you get this anti-ev bullshit? Just grow up and realise that EVs can get us around Australia. They are going further, cost less. and are fun to travel with. @@smileypureblood930
Hi Darren. Yes special adapter. I have an explanation of 3-phase in my video [Day 0 Tesla Y 2023 Road Trip - Planning]. Check th-cam.com/video/QbwQu9PFXwc/w-d-xo.html video starting at the 4min mark.
Have a look in the Description for the video for a link to the spreadsheet. All costs for each stop are there. th-cam.com/users/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbG84bTJvWFlIWFRVeG5DUHJWWjI5OFAyeGhzd3xBQ3Jtc0ttQlJCQjNXczY0ZlpxTVpPM0gxYkViQWdLWDQtVTVoOEVCbHUteGZUelluNkRPekhKcnEwNzZQemN6cVNIWWtlMVdNaFpzcXVJSHFYQzhaUnkyWXl0ajlrMDRvTEE4QzFsMk1sYUpseHZZNkk2YmdVNA&q=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fspreadsheets%2Fd%2F1N8U4OJ1zzC09nNarh_JOQMbbGsZjNkbc%2Fedit%3Fusp%3Dshare_link%26ouid%3D110958940178964593757%26rtpof%3Dtrue%26sd%3Dtrue&v=XF-M9os1sqw
So happy to see videos for Australia on road trip in Australia. No one does that
This video provides valuable information for EV owners planning a road trip. Great job, mate.
John, this is an excellent film, well done, you show very concisely how a trip like this can be done. Please make more of these films!
Please Include how long your car is plugged in!
What a great trip and such a nice way to do it being able to take your time and enjoy it, I'm going to enjoy part two
Wow that was amazing well done mate 👏🏽👏🏽
lots of familiar charging stops, we did the trip about a year ago, and interesting to see the changes since we did the trip. there was no fast charging between Broken Hill to just outside Perth. at William's, Supercharger. Kimba was a 5 hr charge for us.
Me & my Son Drove form Perth to Ocean Shores (50k's south of Tweed Heads) in a Toyota Corolla. We left Perth 6pm Friday & were home 2 pm Monday, the longest We stopped to Refuel was 4 minutes, ( not counting Food & Sight Seeing) ! First night we slept in the car at Norsman, next night Porta Gutter, next night Gunnadah, then home Monday! & no We didn't stick to the Speed Limit!! 4295k's
Wow. That's a quick sprint.
We have two Tesla’s. I think there is still too much planning involved for travelling long distances due to the limited supercharger footprint in Australia. It’s not an issue for us because we don’t do cross country road trips but it’s definitely I big problem.
Fantastic journey, we want to go all the way to Perth in a couple of years - also in our model Y.
Might be some more DC chargers by then too.
Hi. The charging landscape is changing very quickly. Quite likely if you do the journey across to Perth in a few years time it will be DC fast chargers all the way. No more 3-phase! I see since I did the journey there is DC fast charging now at Norseman, Port Augusta and Nullarbor Roadhouse where previously it was slower AC.
Hi John. WA is slowly catching up to the Eastern States in charging infrastructure....still a ways to go. Good video.
I would have to say I also apreciated the free charging on NRMA. So much so I have insured my car with them. I like supporting businesses that support me :)
That’s living mate! I’ll be pullin me super out next year, first stop for me is a Tesla shop!
Gonna spend a few months doing this exact thing mate!
Loved the video mate, straight forward and to the point and exactly the info I was after.
Plug share is amazing just make sure you have all your cables and portable charger and you can charge at any power outlet. I have done Gold Coast to Adelaide and back as well as Gold Coast to Charlieville and back. Where ever a caravan park is you have a charging service just rent a site. On both my trips I never had to use the portable charger and only was on AC (destination charger) once and that was to charlieville. The Nullabor is a trip im also looking to do from the Gold Coast. Might even go the full around Australia trip while im at it. Ill probably wait for when I buy the Model Y as my Model 3 wont be great at camping.
We stayed in Nyngan about 8 months ago before they installed the fast chargers, we had come from broken hill so had a cabin at the caravan park and charged from the 15amp came site outlet.
There are caravan parks littered across Australia and they are not normally listed on Plugshare. A powered site is a great option to charge at a 15A caravan socket. Even if you are staying in a Motel nearby the caravan park management are receptive to you leaving your EV overnight on a powered site.
Well done mate.
Thanks for the upload, nicely done and informative
Excellent channel this. Thanks so much for the data. Love it
It always shocks me how quickly Australia becomes wild red earthed wonder when you venture outside of the capital cities.
Fantastic video. Can’t wait for part 2.
to put in slow chargers in the outback seems Ludicrous to me or to force long stopover
Great video I do this trip often (reverse direction) and am looking at an EV for my next car. Once WAs electric highway is fully built we’ll have decent charging to the borders. Btw, some pronunciations of SA and WA towns need work lol (eg Norseman not Nooseman)
Great video
Aren’t most of the roadhouses across the Nullarbor run on diesel generators?
Correct. The really remote roadhouses are not on the electricity grid so have to be self reliant using a combination of solar and diesel generators for electricity supply.
Epic
In Australia, we really need a car driven by power of flies, well, hopefully, we will be flying on the backs of flies. That is how many of them in this country and no one want to tell you about it.
Amazing mate!
Wth I didn't know you could get a 3phase direct plug charger. Holy shit how come no one talks about this. Basically charge anywhere there is access to 3 phase power plug. Just opens up the ev range in au Soo much !!!
Thank you for posting this video. Really shows the critics that this kind of trip can be done.
One random question… where did you get your wheel covers? Do you like them.
Hi Renny. The hubcaps are Razors. Yes they are great. They sit over the lip of the rim and protect the rim if you scape a gutter or something. Got them from Tessories but they don't seem to stock them now. I see them at tesdaddy.com.au/products/19-razor-wheel-covers-matt-black-for-model-y
Question: Kalgoorlie with the overnight street charging, are there plenty of them? You'd hate to be the 2nd to arrive if there's only one.
Hi Peter. As of today you have four charging options within a 500m radius of which one of those charging options is a DC fast charger at Kingsbury Park. Check plugshare.com as the charging infrastructure is constantly improving. The Kingsbury Park DC fast charger was commissioned in March this year. I probably would charge there if I was stopping through Kalgoorlie again rather than use the overnight street charging.
Great video. It seems like 3 phase is widely used. Is there such a thing as a Type 2, to 3 phase/pin adapter ?
Hi. 3 phase is 415 volts and the type 2 AC connector delivers 240v in a single phase so you do need electrical supply equipment in the middle to make that electrical change. I have an explanation of 3-phase and the EV supply equipment required in my video [Day 0 Tesla Y 2023 Road Trip - Planning]. Check th-cam.com/video/QbwQu9PFXwc/w-d-xo.html video starting at the 4min mark.
Great trip. What charging cables did you take with you, and where did you purchase them?
Hi Raymond
On my TH-cam video [Debrief Tesla Y 2023 Road Trip - Crossing Australia] I talk about what charging equipment I took and what I ended up using at 1min01sec in. Link to that position is here: th-cam.com/video/9qMAQnfjp7I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=6FK58yXDcNVjVk32&t=61
You can get what cables/charging supply equipment you need for remote travelling from here
evchargers.com.au/product/portable-charger-3-phase-bundle/
Hi planning for long trip what are the cable I need to buy and Is have spare wheel or puncture repair kid which one you will recommend thanks love your video 👌👌👍🏽
Hi,
If you are travelling remotely you'll most likely will need 3-phase supply equipment. On my TH-cam video [Debrief Tesla Y 2023 Road Trip - Crossing Australia] I talk about what charging equipment I took and what I ended up using at 1min01sec in. Link to that position is here: th-cam.com/video/9qMAQnfjp7I/w-d-xo.htmlsi=6FK58yXDcNVjVk32&t=61
I did not take a spare wheel but took a Tyre Plug Kit and also the Tesla Tyre Repair Kit. Also took out a an NRMA Ultimate Care Road Assistance policy which gives me 24x7 Australia wide coverage with the first 100km towing free. I discuss these items in my TH-cam video [Day 0 Tesla Y 2023 Road Trip - Planning] at 8min20sec in.
Link to that position is here: th-cam.com/video/QbwQu9PFXwc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=PtV-FTMoimzMzOwx&t=494
Thanks 🙏
Excellent... just a question on charging cables... I saw that you used the 3phase bundle and the Tesla 240v charging cable ... anything else needed?
15A extension cord as the caravan sockets won't accept the Tesla UMC 90degree bend on their plug. Get a heavy duty cord from Bunnings. Also you'll need a type 2 to type 2 cable as a number of AC chargers were bring your own cable.
Wow, great drive John. My wife and I took our first test drive in a Tesla Y & 3 yesterday at the Mt Gravatt Tesla Centre in Queensland. Amazing cars. The Model Y is our car of choice. We are trying to convince ourselves that we can afford it. A Question is your Y a standard Range or Long Range? My wife isn't a road tripper, but here first thing after the drive was that she can't wait to do a road trip. Look forward to your next adventure.
Hi Raymond. My Tesla Y is a standard range which is ample for road tripping. Good for 300km+ between charging stops which was not an issue travelling the 9,800km return trip from one side of the country to another. The standard range is an LFP battery which you can charge to 100% regularly - even daily. The long range uses an NMC battery which Tesla recommends charging to 90% except on long trips. So for the majority use case of daily commuting / local trips there is not much difference in range if you charge the battery normally. Personally I could not justify the AUD$13K difference in price for an extra 80km range or so.
@@EV_John I've just finished watching all your videos. Very inspiring. Unlike what a lot of people think, you can do these sort of road trips in our big vast land, today. But in the years to come, when Fast DC charges are much more common and even 7/11/22kW AC chargers it will make it a so much easier for the general traveller. It makes me think a trip for us to Longreach is a walk in the park. I hope to someday go from Brisbane-Sydney-Melbourne-Perth and back and see more of our amazing country. Thanks John.
Hey, I too went on a test drive of a Model Y and have placed an order just yesterday. I just ordered the standard rear wheel drive version which states a 455km range. My reason was to keep the price under $70k for the $3500 government rebate, but I am also novating the car through my work and with the waiving of FBT makes it a very cheap option. I also tried the Model Y performance just to see what it was like and man, the acceleration just pins you back in your seat. I can't justify the $92K price tag though, haha.
You might also want to find someone with a referral code, you'll get another $750 off which will cover the cost of a mobile charger, plus some and the referrer also gets 10,000 points to redeem from the Tesla shop.
Great video. Thanks for sharing 👍🏽
Interesting video thanks. What 3 phase tails did you use? I've looked at getting the whole set, which is expensive so wondering what the minimum you'd need is.
Hi. I've only ever used the 32A tail on my trips. That said I have seen the 20A around and carry the tail for it just in case.
Hi, I would like to ask how you find the campsite and if they require booking in advance for powered site❤, thanks!
Hi. If I'm outback I use wikicamps.com.au/ app to see what camping is in the area. Otherwise if I need to charge overnight I look at www.plugshare.com/ and see caravan park or motel with EV charging facilities is nearby. If travelling I book on the day that I will be staying after I know I definitely will make it there, which is usually around midday. Yes I do get caught out with no vacancies from time to time but there generally there are alternatives.
@@EV_John Great to share, and maybe I will bring starlink for my trip to perth!
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Great Vid
loved the videp Did you have the 3 phase connector cord made up or did u buy from Bunnings :) ?
Hi. I used a Portable Charger with 3 Phase Tails Bundle.
evchargers.com.au/product/portable-charger-3-phase-bundle/
Thank you. Have you ever had to remove them. I have heard they are brittle and break easily?
I haven't removed them yet, though will need to do so shortly for a wheel rotation. They don't seem brittle, I would be surprised if they break easily.
I have changed my tails on the portable chargers many times and have done so for over a year now. Changed well over 50 times. The tails haven't been a problem at all just pull them out and push them in. I havent experienced mine get brittle at all.
Is this a standard or long range?
Hi Rhys. Standard range (LFP battery).
You don't mention how long you are stuck at all the Chargers!
He does actually..
it is also scary if the nullarbor roadhouse chargers didnt work at all when you arrived there.
Did u take a spare tyre ?
On this Sydney-Perth-Sydney trip I did not take a spare tyre. I address what I would do if I had a puncture here:
Day 0 Tesla Y 2023 Road Trip - Planning@8m20s th-cam.com/video/QbwQu9PFXwc/w-d-xo.html
That said I do now carry a spare tyre for remote trips. See here:
Tesla Y Roadtrip 2024 Australian Snowy Mountains@3min43s th-cam.com/video/WPBS6IMlWOY/w-d-xo.html
Amazing
Standard or Long Range model?
Standard Range (RWD)
yeh, you do not say how long it took you to get there, I suppose if you are not in a hurry. ice is still better and far more reliable
He was not doing a cannonball. Why rush? Match the charging with local exploration and rest
What a nightmare. Sounds like you spent most of your time worrying where charge up. The fuel savings were spent on accommodation and food. Im glad you werent in a hurry
Can you point out where in this video he spent any time worrying about where to charge. I obviously missed it.
Did you watch the show? Sydney to Kalgoorlie for $282. A petrol car would of been comfortably $600 probably more so even if he took 2 extra nights at $100 ish per night he’s in front, still in front after eating out.
What a whacker. PlugShare removes all the worry of where to charge. And who drives non-stop across Australia, anyway? Plenty of “roses to smell”.
Yeah soon they are going to tax you per kilometer and if you don’t pay it ,they will shut your car off remotely and resale will be a joke.
Where do you get this anti-ev bullshit? Just grow up and realise that EVs can get us around Australia. They are going further, cost less. and are fun to travel with. @@smileypureblood930
How did you plug into the 3 phase sockets? Did you have a special cable or adapter?
Hi Darren. Yes special adapter. I have an explanation of 3-phase in my video [Day 0 Tesla Y 2023 Road Trip - Planning]. Check th-cam.com/video/QbwQu9PFXwc/w-d-xo.html video starting at the 4min mark.
Thank you@@EV_John
how much did you pay at each charge stop across the border in WA?
Have a look in the Description for the video for a link to the spreadsheet. All costs for each stop are there. th-cam.com/users/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbG84bTJvWFlIWFRVeG5DUHJWWjI5OFAyeGhzd3xBQ3Jtc0ttQlJCQjNXczY0ZlpxTVpPM0gxYkViQWdLWDQtVTVoOEVCbHUteGZUelluNkRPekhKcnEwNzZQemN6cVNIWWtlMVdNaFpzcXVJSHFYQzhaUnkyWXl0ajlrMDRvTEE4QzFsMk1sYUpseHZZNkk2YmdVNA&q=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fspreadsheets%2Fd%2F1N8U4OJ1zzC09nNarh_JOQMbbGsZjNkbc%2Fedit%3Fusp%3Dshare_link%26ouid%3D110958940178964593757%26rtpof%3Dtrue%26sd%3Dtrue&v=XF-M9os1sqw