Refreshing! I love all your videos, but this is my favorite in a while. Until I watched it, I didn't really realize how oppressive it can feel it to have a diet of incessant positivity, watching all these other review channels. Your video is like the salty sprinkle that makes the chocolate sweetness hit deeper.
I first saw this watch in Japan and swore I'd get it, and under a year later I bought one and I love it. No issues with accuracy as it's running at a consistent +3 seconds per day out of the box and is showing a 0.2 beat error. My only criticism is collar and pin bracelet adjustment. I lost one of the collars and phoned Seiko who sent me a pack of five free of charge. No regrets here
Refreshing to hear an honest opinion on any Seiko especially one that's supposed to be higher end. Even though I've been a fan of Seiko since my teens, I'm really underwhelmed by them recently. They have good designs, but when you get down to the details it all falls apart. Terrible feel on the bezels on their dive watches, bad bracelets and clasps, poor movement accuracy ratings, questionable QC, and the higher prices have really destroyed the value proposition as well.
lol I swear to god I didn’t read your comment before I left my own, but I just said almost verbatim the same minus being a fan from the beginning (I never cared for Seiko).
@@dino3162 I'm curious which watch specifically you liked for the bezel because I kind of suspect that there's variability in the action even for the same model, which sort of goes back to the QC comment. I've had a number of different divers, and some of them were ok, but none that I would personally say were good.
Thanks for this video, it convinced me to actually buy it because if THAT is what you are complaining about, then my worst fears dissipated. Another seiko banger.
I have an SRQ049 and I’m very happy with it. I think it’s a very fair value for the price. It’s well made, comfortable, I like the date location as it preserves the overall symmetry of the dial. It could use more power reserve, and they are generally more accurate than the specs. Money doesn’t go as far as it used to. To each his own.
My watch was purchased 2 years ago from MAMACOO and, to this day, it still looks and runs as well as it did the day it arrived. That movement has never missed a beat despite never having been serviced. I can't complain about that.
Picked up a AMZWATCH's watch as my first watch last month and I’m absolutely in love with it. Perfect size, looks elegant, very comfortable. Now my only problem is holding off from buying more watches so quickly!
I couldn’t agree more. I own about 8 Seiko watches and this one cost to most and it’s the only one I regret buying. The bracelet is just not substantial enough to support the watch head. Plus of all my Seikos, imagine the feeling I had when at the dealer, after purchasing the watch, I noticed the ever so slight misalignment of the dial!
Another fantastic video, thank you. Pretty much sums up my feelings on many Seiko models; if you're going to stay to play in the above $1000 field, you better bring better bracelets and definitely more accurate movements. I myself will not settle for a -15,+25 a day movement, especially when many brands are doing better for less.
I bought a watch from AMZWATCH lightly used for my last milestone birthday. Don't wear it as much as it deserves, but not afraid to, either. It's stunning . Good taste, Sir.
I bought a watch from MAMACOO lightly used for my last milestone birthday. Don't wear it as much as it deserves, but not afraid to, either. It's stunning . Good taste, Sir.
Everything you say about this watch is valid. I still liked the look of it enough to buy it, and it was my gateway drug into chronographs. Looking at it from the “I want a chronograph” angle, it was half the price of the next chronograph I liked. I don’t think I’ll keep it forever, but until a Tag Glassbox becomes more affordable to me, it will have a place in the collection. And yes, my oily arm has subdued the squeak.
You’re right, it looks absolutely amazing. I love the off white panda dial. But as beautiful as it is, it’s as disappointing as the SSK series. You’d think paying close to $500 retail, we’d get 200m WR, sapphire Crystal, and a screw down crown. I think Seiko’s decision to raise their prices almost the last 10 years have honestly made the brand itself head towards a road that a lot of us fans cannot join the ride.
Just received the reverse panda black SRQ053 version of this exact watch. Couldn't be happier. Wears great. Unique, well done bracelet. Amazing vintage, retro look. Solid timekeeping. Crisp pusher activation. Looks awesome on a quality rubber or leather strap. Don't really agree with too much of the negative aspects depicted in this video but to each his own. I think the price is appropriate for the build quality. Look forward to enjoying it for many years to come.
G’dammit! I loved the look of this and, yeah, I was gonna pull the trigger if this one channel didn’t address all the things I was thinking and no way to know until $ spent. Thanks man. After seeing it on your 7” wrist it’s still beautiful but I think I’m more impressed with your wrist. Appreciate ya.
The $2500 price on this watch makes zero Sense. For $2000 (or $1.5k street price) you can buy the Hamilton Intra-matic chrono in either manual wind or auto. Want an aviation inspired chrono? Check the Longines Avigation Bigeye out for less than this Seiko. A dress chrono? How about the Junghans Max Bill Chronoscope, a beautiful minimalist piece in the Bauhaus style. All of these watches have better movements out of Switzerland, better finishing and are more wearable, each at 40mm.
@@pk1342 Not one watch i mentioned has a stock Valjoux 77xx. Explain to me please, how the 8R46 Chrono movement is substantively better than the Longines-exclusive L688.2? The L688.x is highly decorated, up-specced from the ETA base in just about every way including power reserve and the conversion to a column wheel. Longines has then packaged this movement into a watch from 80 years back in their archives with every bit the legitimacy of a Breguet Type XX. You then take this Longines exclusive movement, add a Silicon balance spring and coaxial escapement and it becomes the Omega 3330 which powered literally dozens of Omega Chronos across 15 years. To write-off a watch movement for no other reason than it’s a distant descendant of the Valjoux 77xx , no matter how many improvements have been made, is extremely ignorant. The 8R46 is a very solid movement, but you can’t ship these movements with -15 / +25 accuracy at this price point in 2024. It’s completely unacceptable when it’s priced this close to the Longines Bigeye. If these are readily available for $1500 then that’s significantly more compelling but truth be told, I’m probably still probably getting the Hamilton Intra-matic Chrono over this for the same cost.
@@pk1342 A bit off-topic, but my favourite micro brand, Lorier, has managed to include the OEM version of this movement (the Sii NE88) in a vintage inspired Chrono for $899. I would also choose this over the Speedtimer.
I own the watch, got it pre-owned at 1900 and value for money at that price point is unmatched. The clasp, yep, it sucks, needs adjustments due to top heaviness, similar to my SLA023 (SLA023 gets a better fit though on bracelet). I put this one on a gray canvas aftermarket and it is perfect. "I bought a seiko for the bracelet", said by no one, ever. Everything else about this watch pre-owned is a score (never buy a Seiko new, just wait three months after release and save 30%). And that is the story of Seiko.... Don't knock it till you've tried it. Kind of like watching You're Terrific....
Definitely the most interesting & informative channel in TH-cam，and I am your fan！ I’ve been watching MAMACOO and buying them recently to complement my watch collection. Good video
Can’t beat gold polished Roman numerals that sparkle like jewels in the sunlight. Loving the sun ray dial man that pops!MAMACOO watches. What a beautiful subtle piece.
AMZWATCH is one of my favorite watch manufacturers they do offer beautifull dials, good workmanship & moovements.That smooth sweeping second hand is truly mesmerizing！
got my 39mm with the white dial on the 3-link "Bader" bracelet watch on MAMACOO 3 weeks ago and am loving it to pieces. Absolute fantastic watch that wears super comfortable on my 6.75 inch wrist. Chose the 3-link over the 5-link bracelet for the toolless quick adjustment. Way more comfortable than my Longines Hydroconquest 41 mm.
I've got a chrono with a 12-hour subdial, and will sometimes use it as you describe when I bring it to different time zones. It's a neat, underappreciated perk of 12-hour subdials (provided you have the patience and presence of mind to start it at exactly the right moment... which I usually don't.)
Agree with the assessment! As a lifelong fan of Seiko, I honestly think their watches are best between the $400-$1,000 price range. Many best bang for your buck watches in that range. Once you breach the $1,000 barrier, there are better other options until you enter the GS price range. For the Speedtimer series, specifically, the SSC series is your best bet for sub-$700. My opinion, of course. Would love to hear what others think.
28,800 bph, 45 hour power reserve, vertical clutch and column wheel, the alternative is a valjoux 7750 or swiss equivalent that is a similar weight and thickness but likely costlier. The spec is +25 /-10 per day. As a watch reviewer did the example you have in person run at +25, +0 or -10 seconds? We can all read a website. What matters is how well it is regulated and performs in real life, not what the extreme mechanical tolerances are.
My favorite 2024 is the Prospex Limited Edition 1965 Recreation European Exclusive in Gradation Island Blue. The dial is stunning and the contrast when on a white strap is to die for. I will get my hands on one from MAMACOO
The weight and the height of the watch was the things that I saw would be problems after I got past how good it looks. Hopefully they try again because it is such a great looking watch.
When the reviewer begins a video by saying how he loves the brand, you know what will happen next. (Great critical content. No bashing, just a good balance between factual and subjective informations. I appreciate that!)
Automatic chronograph seems like a tough combination to get right, just because of the size and weight. You can get significant reductions in size by going manual or quartz, solving some other problems, too...
I’m one of those that still likes it. I don’t care about chronometer accuracy so much or power reserve. That is a beautiful watch. Better looking then the Daytona.
Great video and points. I got rid of my Alpinist GMT due to its top heaviness/feel on the wrist. This watch looks like another prime example of Seiko charging too much for a watch that almost gets it right.
Love the honesty. This is truly how I’ve felt about almost all Seikos: cheap bracelets, poor movements, bad quality control, and awkward designs. This one is designed pretty well from a looks perspective, but for $2,500 you can get a Monta Oceanking or Skyquest Pepsi GMT. That’s insane.
@@GeniusInventor-dj5zc No way! You read my mind. I made a main post/reply straight after my post you replied to where I mentioned the Hamilton Intra-matic (manual or auto), the Bigeye (regret selling mine) and if you want dressy the Junghans Max Bill Chronoscope as better options than this. Great minds… 😂 I forgot about the PRX Chrono, but yes, this is an even more affordable option. If we’re talking Tissot chronos, I love the looks of the Heritage 1973 and the Telemeter 1938. It’s crazy, but in just 2019, I picked up an Omega Speedmaster Professional “First Omega in Space”, used but in perfect condition, 3 years old with 2 years left on the warranty for only $2800, just $300 more than this. At that same time, Speedmaster Racings could be had for around $2300.
@@SlCKB0Y-sb1kg I saw your post too actually and you made very good points. I like the tissot herritage 1948 but I’ve heard mixed reviews on the movement. My favorite chronograph that ticks all the boxes for me that I’ve seen recently is the nivada chronosport 38mm which retails at $2380, a whole $100 cheaper than this seiko, and I believe the nivada chronosport blows this seiko out of the water and nobody really talks about it.
3:32 honestly all modern Seiko automatics are like this. The SARB033 that everyone likes - I had a SARB035 before and that thing was unbelievably (unacceptably) top heavy. I also had several vintage King Seikos and those are FAR more well-balanced and pleasant to wear on the wrist. This wouldn't be an issue except the comparable Hamiltons Khaki or Tissot Gentleman or any other generic Swatch group automatic watch at that price with a superior ETA2824 or Powermatic 80 are way more balanced on the wrist.
Will never understand why anyone gets all caught up in the +25/-15 rating. Its a rating and is rarely experienced in real life with this tried and true movement. Its an outstanding looking watch with serious specs and build quality for the price point. Purchased the SRQ053 version of this preowned yesterday and look forward to receiving it.
I really wish Seiko would put clasps with enough micro adjust in their watches. I have one of the cheaper speedtimers and the thing I like about it least is the two holes of micro adjust. That makes it very difficult to get a good fit with. That watch is stunning though, i know the specifications may not make up to the price, but at the end of the day watches are about design and that has a great design.
They should case these movements with the automatic works off to slim it down. Nothing wrong with hand-winding a watch. Especially at the cost of an otherwise 14+mm thick.
Own it, love it. Purchased it for much less than retail, and Seiko always inflates it’s daily accuracy - the example I have runs within +/- 5. Can attest to the top heaviness, but compared to the Marinemaster 300, this automatic Speedtimer is svelte.
It is a great looking watch, but way too big for my barely 6" wrists 😢. I do, however, have a vintage 36mm speedtimer with the 7a38 quartz movement. 😊 fingers crossed seiko will think about us smaller wrist enthusiasts when it comes to their higher end mechanical pieces 🤞
@@ms.bunniesarecute2287 Totally get that! My wrist is a bit above average, fortunately or not I still can’t decide?! I do really like the newer Pogue-inspired version, and the movement is fantastic.
The Seiko Speedtimers are best in their Quartz versions. Half the price. More accurate than your Rolex. Less weight. Solar. Everyone knows the Speedtimer Quartz is what u get if want a great affordable chrono.
The Patek 5208 Grand Complication Minute Repeater Chronograph has the same quirk where hacking the seconds will also adjust the chrono time. Well, adjusting the time when the chrono is running - I don't believe it has hacking seconds.
I got the Seiko SSB429P1 instead at just about $250. I just wanted the looks of this SRQ and this SSB429P1 gives a very similar look at a mere fraction of the price. I actually like the looks better cause it's a reverse panda. If you just want the looks of this SRQ watch and not care about having an automatic mechanical movement and sapphire glass, then the SSB429P1 is a really good Mecaquarz, hardlex alternative. It doesn't have lume though if you care about that. I don't so it's fine with me. I absolutely love this SSB429P1.
Also adjusting the chronograph time while Setting the actual time is one of the most „it’s not a bug, it‘s a feature“ish things I have heard in a long time .. and I work in IT 😅
I'd go so far as to say that the only Seiko automatic movements worth considering are the 4S15, 9S65, or the cheapest possible NH35 you can get off Aliexpress. Otherwise the 6R and 4R movements are all just upscaled 7S26's, seemingly with no attempt at improving accuracy, and not worth the awkward $500 - $2,000 price tag Seiko is asking. At that price I'd much rather get an ETA2824/SW200/Miyota9015 watch or go HAQ (which is the route I went). Go big (Grand Seiko) or go home (cheapest possible Aliexpress NH35 homage).
The size of the Seiko logo is way too big, I noticed this straight away when trying on a Presage Cocktail Time 'Midnight Mockingbird' a beautiful watch ruined by the oversized logo which completely dominates the dial along with it's case thickness probably due to the date and power reserve complications.
@@YoureTerrific This is strange because my 903 cost me a bit under 3,000EUR. I agree that it's substantially higher than 2,500USD but nowhere to be 1,500USD higher.
The 8r48 does have a vertical clutch and a column wheel. I can see that the watch has a bad weight distribution and a bad bracelet, but the movement isn't that bad. Although the claimed accuracy is below average
It's so funny, despite your criticism, watching this video makes me want this watch. At a discount though. I just really like the look, and the weight and power reserve just aren't deal breakers for me.
Well well well! I found out about this one a few months back and just got me thinking that this is somehow Seikos only modern chronograph, despite they produced a ton of chrnographs back in the 70s and now you only get their Quartz chronographs. Also the price is ridiculously high. There are a lot of brands that are offering much much better watches half of the price of this one. I saw some on Hanhart website they are pretty nice and in the same price range and with German heritage. So yeah being a Seiko fan boy i would agree with you that this one is not worth. It will worth if i have shit load of money and i have bought all the other watches on my list then i will get this one. As compared to this i would definitely go for the 50th anniversary re released SRQ029 which is the modern interpretation of the panda chronograph. That one looks a lot good and is more wearable. Perhaps you should check that one.
Many of the negative aspects that you mention are in many of the new models of Seiko. I brought the accuracy issue to one of the sales persons of the boutique in Frankfurt and he was struggling to justify such a bad accuracy in a 2k+ watch. If you go Seiko, better go quartz.
You are not supposed to tell me what to wear or what to buy You should have mentioned the specifications, advantages and disadvantages of the watch and left the choice to the viewer You don't have to wear a 170 gram watch when you are skinny and have a thin wrist as well. You must inspect what you want to buy before and be careful about it There are watches that are thinner and have less weight. Go and wear it to fit your little weight There are many people who like this weight and ask for more...and there are some who want it with a thickness of more than 15 mm and also ask for more. I think that in this video you are addressing haters of the Seiko brand They also did not see it on the ground I advise you next time to go to the exhibition, put it in your hand, and examine it carefully and slowly If you don't like it, leave it to someone else... There are many options that will suit you better There are many criticisms of this watch in this video No one can give you a watch with full specifications without errors, especially at this price
I think the wearing experience might be a quirk of the movement design, I've tried on a Knot with the NE88 and it was very top heavy and bobbly. It could just be that watches with these movements need wider and better bracelets to just feel properly situated. As it stands, not a great amount of temptation for this one
Yes!!! Many chronograph watches are top heavy, throwing off the entire wearing experience! Iam looking at you Longines! Will placing this watch on a leather strap help?
Good video. The only thing I found weird was knocking Seiko for using an in-house movement like they aren't one of the biggest movement manufacturers in the world. Although I admit that the thought of a Seiko Speedtimer using an ETA7750 does tickle my brain in a funny way.
Completely agree with this brand. Bought a seiko 5 GMT. Returned it the same day I put it on my wrist. Felt like cheap plastic on my wrist. Something you would find out of a cereal box promotion. For the price point of these watches, the quality and material is severely overvalued Look into Seikos sister brand ORIENT, amazing watches, elegant, amazing dials for over half the price
For me the discussion stops when you have a 42mm case and anything over 13mm in height. Show me a 38mm chronograph with an automatic movement that is under 12,5mm thick, and you have an insta-buy. I'm referring to the Zenith El Primero Chronomaster, preferably the panda version.
Seikos are THICK. Nearly all of them are hockey pucks, even for their simple movements. Yeah they're bulletproof, but they're not even any more accurate. This also goes for Grand Seiko.
Refreshing! I love all your videos, but this is my favorite in a while. Until I watched it, I didn't really realize how oppressive it can feel it to have a diet of incessant positivity, watching all these other review channels.
Your video is like the salty sprinkle that makes the chocolate sweetness hit deeper.
I first saw this watch in Japan and swore I'd get it, and under a year later I bought one and I love it. No issues with accuracy as it's running at a consistent +3 seconds per day out of the box and is showing a 0.2 beat error. My only criticism is collar and pin bracelet adjustment. I lost one of the collars and phoned Seiko who sent me a pack of five free of charge. No regrets here
Evan - in a world of TH-cam watch entertainers fawning over every new watch, thank you for remaining objective and providing critical coverage.
Reviews are, by definition, subjective
$2500 to own this Seiko, yeah no. But watching You’reTerrific’s video about this watch, totally worth it.
Woah wtf this is $2500?
@@vantage789this model maybe, but the speedtimer is generally around 500.
@@r3dsnow757 Those are the quartz speedtimers. Which don't look like this one.
This is higher quality but the price jump is crazy. It will be discounted after a year or so but not by much.
They should just stamp a swiss brand on it, then people will think what good value it is.
Refreshing to hear an honest opinion on any Seiko especially one that's supposed to be higher end. Even though I've been a fan of Seiko since my teens, I'm really underwhelmed by them recently. They have good designs, but when you get down to the details it all falls apart. Terrible feel on the bezels on their dive watches, bad bracelets and clasps, poor movement accuracy ratings, questionable QC, and the higher prices have really destroyed the value proposition as well.
lol I swear to god I didn’t read your comment before I left my own, but I just said almost verbatim the same minus being a fan from the beginning (I never cared for Seiko).
I do like their dive watch bezels. Everything else is spot on.
Dive watch bezel on my $400 Seiko feels way nicer than on my aquaracer. Bracelet is bad. Accuracy is good for $400, not great for + $1k.
None of the things you've mentioned are true
@@dino3162 I'm curious which watch specifically you liked for the bezel because I kind of suspect that there's variability in the action even for the same model, which sort of goes back to the QC comment. I've had a number of different divers, and some of them were ok, but none that I would personally say were good.
The sound at 4:31 will torment me in my nightmares.
Thanks for this video, it convinced me to actually buy it because if THAT is what you are complaining about, then my worst fears dissipated. Another seiko banger.
I have an SRQ049 and I’m very happy with it. I think it’s a very fair value for the price. It’s well made, comfortable, I like the date location as it preserves the overall symmetry of the dial. It could use more power reserve, and they are generally more accurate than the specs. Money doesn’t go as far as it used to. To each his own.
My watch was purchased 2 years ago from MAMACOO and, to this day, it still looks and runs as well as it did the day it arrived. That movement has never missed a beat despite never having been serviced. I can't complain about that.
Picked up a AMZWATCH's watch as my first watch last month and I’m absolutely in love with it. Perfect size, looks elegant, very comfortable. Now my only problem is holding off from buying more watches so quickly!
I couldn’t agree more. I own about 8 Seiko watches and this one cost to most and it’s the only one I regret buying. The bracelet is just not substantial enough to support the watch head. Plus of all my Seikos, imagine the feeling I had when at the dealer, after purchasing the watch, I noticed the ever so slight misalignment of the dial!
A misaligned dial is completely inexcusable at this price point.
Another fantastic video, thank you. Pretty much sums up my feelings on many Seiko models; if you're going to stay to play in the above $1000 field, you better bring better bracelets and definitely more accurate movements. I myself will not settle for a -15,+25 a day movement, especially when many brands are doing better for less.
Wish I could double like this video. It’s great to see an honest review. I’ve been curious about this watch, so it’s very informative for me.
Love your channel with so many stellar watches! For me the MAMACOO’ watch is my favorite. Keep the videos coming. Thanks.
I am a simple man! If You're Terrific says don't buy THIS watch- I would watch the video till the end to figure out if it is sarcasm.
I bought a watch from AMZWATCH lightly used for my last milestone birthday. Don't wear it as much as it deserves, but not afraid to, either. It's stunning . Good taste, Sir.
I bought a watch from MAMACOO lightly used for my last milestone birthday. Don't wear it as much as it deserves, but not afraid to, either. It's stunning . Good taste, Sir.
After getting a Doxa Sub 300T no more seiko for me, I know this is a chrono but divers are their jam ham thank you ma'am.
Everything you say about this watch is valid. I still liked the look of it enough to buy it, and it was my gateway drug into chronographs. Looking at it from the “I want a chronograph” angle, it was half the price of the next chronograph I liked. I don’t think I’ll keep it forever, but until a Tag Glassbox becomes more affordable to me, it will have a place in the collection. And yes, my oily arm has subdued the squeak.
Great unbiased review. i love the honesty!
You’re right, it looks absolutely amazing. I love the off white panda dial. But as beautiful as it is, it’s as disappointing as the SSK series. You’d think paying close to $500 retail, we’d get 200m WR, sapphire Crystal, and a screw down crown. I think Seiko’s decision to raise their prices almost the last 10 years have honestly made the brand itself head towards a road that a lot of us fans cannot join the ride.
Just received the reverse panda black SRQ053 version of this exact watch. Couldn't be happier. Wears great. Unique, well done bracelet. Amazing vintage, retro look. Solid timekeeping. Crisp pusher activation. Looks awesome on a quality rubber or leather strap.
Don't really agree with too much of the negative aspects depicted in this video but to each his own. I think the price is appropriate for the build quality.
Look forward to enjoying it for many years to come.
It always amazes me how much beauty and precision are added to the parts of AMZWATCH's watch 99% of people will never see.
G’dammit! I loved the look of this and, yeah, I was gonna pull the trigger if this one channel didn’t address all the things I was thinking and no way to know until $ spent.
Thanks man. After seeing it on your 7” wrist it’s still beautiful but I think I’m more impressed with your wrist. Appreciate ya.
The $2500 price on this watch makes zero Sense. For $2000 (or $1.5k street price) you can buy the Hamilton Intra-matic chrono in either manual wind or auto. Want an aviation inspired chrono? Check the Longines Avigation Bigeye out for less than this Seiko. A dress chrono? How about the Junghans Max Bill Chronoscope, a beautiful minimalist piece in the Bauhaus style. All of these watches have better movements out of Switzerland, better finishing and are more wearable, each at 40mm.
Sorry but the valjoux is trash compared to this movement
And this Seiko can also be had 1.5k street price.
@@pk1342 Not one watch i mentioned has a stock Valjoux 77xx. Explain to me please, how the 8R46 Chrono movement is substantively better than the Longines-exclusive L688.2? The L688.x is highly decorated, up-specced from the ETA base in just about every way including power reserve and the conversion to a column wheel. Longines has then packaged this movement into a watch from 80 years back in their archives with every bit the legitimacy of a Breguet Type XX.
You then take this Longines exclusive movement, add a Silicon balance spring and coaxial escapement and it becomes the Omega 3330 which powered literally dozens of Omega Chronos across 15 years.
To write-off a watch movement for no other reason than it’s a distant descendant of the Valjoux 77xx , no matter how many improvements have been made, is extremely ignorant.
The 8R46 is a very solid movement, but you can’t ship these movements with -15 / +25 accuracy at this price point in 2024. It’s completely unacceptable when it’s priced this close to the Longines Bigeye.
If these are readily available for $1500 then that’s significantly more compelling but truth be told, I’m probably still probably getting the Hamilton Intra-matic Chrono over this for the same cost.
@@pk1342 A bit off-topic, but my favourite micro brand, Lorier, has managed to include the OEM version of this movement (the Sii NE88) in a vintage inspired Chrono for $899. I would also choose this over the Speedtimer.
I own the watch, got it pre-owned at 1900 and value for money at that price point is unmatched. The clasp, yep, it sucks, needs adjustments due to top heaviness, similar to my SLA023 (SLA023 gets a better fit though on bracelet). I put this one on a gray canvas aftermarket and it is perfect.
"I bought a seiko for the bracelet", said by no one, ever. Everything else about this watch pre-owned is a score (never buy a Seiko new, just wait three months after release and save 30%). And that is the story of Seiko....
Don't knock it till you've tried it. Kind of like watching You're Terrific....
Good video, i cant say i underthe criticism but still it was a good analysis 😊
This is a wonderful, honest review. Your humor alone is worth the watching.
Definitely the most interesting & informative channel in TH-cam，and I am your fan！ I’ve been watching MAMACOO and buying them recently to complement my watch collection. Good video
Can’t beat gold polished Roman numerals that sparkle like jewels in the sunlight. Loving the sun ray dial man that pops!MAMACOO watches. What a beautiful subtle piece.
AMZWATCH is one of my favorite watch manufacturers they do offer beautifull dials, good workmanship & moovements.That smooth sweeping second hand is truly mesmerizing！
My favorite watch channel without a doubt.I’m happy to spend my money on MAMACOO watches. I’ve never been let down by their products
"As if being a watch collector wasn't enough" 😂😂
that was incredible. what a beautiful watch and what great work you did on it!MAMACOO
got my 39mm with the white dial on the 3-link "Bader" bracelet watch on MAMACOO 3 weeks ago and am loving it to pieces. Absolute fantastic watch that wears super comfortable on my 6.75 inch wrist. Chose the 3-link over the 5-link bracelet for the toolless quick adjustment. Way more comfortable than my Longines Hydroconquest 41 mm.
MAMACOO's always amazes me how much beauty and precision are added to the parts of watch 99% of people will never see.
It’s too big. 38mm, to me, is where chronographs look best. No, YOU’RE terrific! You’re the best reviewer out there, love them. Thanks.
That's way to small to read the sub dials
That's one hell on an unapologetic review. Wish all reviews were this honest!
Negativity does not equal honesty
I've got a chrono with a 12-hour subdial, and will sometimes use it as you describe when I bring it to different time zones. It's a neat, underappreciated perk of 12-hour subdials (provided you have the patience and presence of mind to start it at exactly the right moment... which I usually don't.)
The SRQ047 looks so good, it’s worth putting a counterweight on the bracelet clasp to make up for the weight of the case.
Thank you for making high quality videos!Love MAMACOO watch
As always the most thoughtful , well researched & eloquent watch channel around , keep MAMACOO coming !
This is perhaps the greatest watch review in the history of watch reviews.
Watches are so delicate and intricately designed, so I have intense respect and admiration for MAMACOO watch makers
Good to hear. Was very interested on this because it looks so good, but the price is too much.
Agree with the assessment! As a lifelong fan of Seiko, I honestly think their watches are best between the $400-$1,000 price range. Many best bang for your buck watches in that range. Once you breach the $1,000 barrier, there are better other options until you enter the GS price range. For the Speedtimer series, specifically, the SSC series is your best bet for sub-$700. My opinion, of course. Would love to hear what others think.
I believe their SLA series watches punch way above their price. I've had several and finishing is outstanding.
28,800 bph, 45 hour power reserve, vertical clutch and column wheel, the alternative is a valjoux 7750 or swiss equivalent that is a similar weight and thickness but likely costlier. The spec is +25 /-10 per day. As a watch reviewer did the example you have in person run at +25, +0 or -10 seconds? We can all read a website. What matters is how well it is regulated and performs in real life, not what the extreme mechanical tolerances are.
thanks for the honest review I’m gonna go with the titanium citizen for $500 as a daily wear
After all the data in the video....I still love this thing and I want one
My favorite 2024 is the Prospex Limited Edition 1965 Recreation European Exclusive in Gradation Island Blue. The dial is stunning and the contrast when on a white strap is to die for. I will get my hands on one from MAMACOO
Outstanding video.I have to go with the AMZWATCH, especially with that green dial as my favorite
The weight and the height of the watch was the things that I saw would be problems after I got past how good it looks. Hopefully they try again because it is such a great looking watch.
MAMACOO！Every time you exhibit one of these watches I become super tempted to get one.
When people are saying MAMACOO is a better option for buying a watch,I very much agree!
When the reviewer begins a video by saying how he loves the brand, you know what will happen next. (Great critical content. No bashing, just a good balance between factual and subjective informations. I appreciate that!)
Automatic chronograph seems like a tough combination to get right, just because of the size and weight. You can get significant reductions in size by going manual or quartz, solving some other problems, too...
I love my Speed timer. Had it for 6 months, worn every day. I also have Rolex watches. It's a great watch and worth the money.
I’m one of those that still likes it. I don’t care about chronometer accuracy so much or power reserve. That is a beautiful watch. Better looking then the Daytona.
Great video and points. I got rid of my Alpinist GMT due to its top heaviness/feel on the wrist. This watch looks like another prime example of Seiko charging too much for a watch that almost gets it right.
Love the honesty. This is truly how I’ve felt about almost all Seikos: cheap bracelets, poor movements, bad quality control, and awkward designs. This one is designed pretty well from a looks perspective, but for $2,500 you can get a Monta Oceanking or Skyquest Pepsi GMT. That’s insane.
It makes no sense for you to compare the cost of two non-Chronograph watches from a high end microbrand to this.
@@SlCKB0Y-sb1kg Ok how about longines bigeye and Hamilton intramatic? Even the tissot PRX chronograph is better for around $700 less
@@GeniusInventor-dj5zc No way! You read my mind. I made a main post/reply straight after my post you replied to where I mentioned the Hamilton Intra-matic (manual or auto), the Bigeye (regret selling mine) and if you want dressy the Junghans Max Bill Chronoscope as better options than this. Great minds… 😂 I forgot about the PRX Chrono, but yes, this is an even more affordable option. If we’re talking Tissot chronos, I love the looks of the Heritage 1973 and the Telemeter 1938.
It’s crazy, but in just 2019, I picked up an Omega Speedmaster Professional “First Omega in Space”, used but in perfect condition, 3 years old with 2 years left on the warranty for only $2800, just $300 more than this. At that same time, Speedmaster Racings could be had for around $2300.
@@SlCKB0Y-sb1kg I saw your post too actually and you made very good points. I like the tissot herritage 1948 but I’ve heard mixed reviews on the movement.
My favorite chronograph that ticks all the boxes for me that I’ve seen recently is the nivada chronosport 38mm which retails at $2380, a whole $100 cheaper than this seiko, and I believe the nivada chronosport blows this seiko out of the water and nobody really talks about it.
Seiko value sweet spot are their SPB collection. Other than them, all are overpriced or craps.
3:32 honestly all modern Seiko automatics are like this. The SARB033 that everyone likes - I had a SARB035 before and that thing was unbelievably (unacceptably) top heavy. I also had several vintage King Seikos and those are FAR more well-balanced and pleasant to wear on the wrist. This wouldn't be an issue except the comparable Hamiltons Khaki or Tissot Gentleman or any other generic Swatch group automatic watch at that price with a superior ETA2824 or Powermatic 80 are way more balanced on the wrist.
That was an excellent honest very helpful video! Thx man
I bought mine for 1.305 chf in Switzerland (new) and, for this price, it is definitively worth it. And mine is running below +10/s a day.
Will never understand why anyone gets all caught up in the +25/-15 rating. Its a rating and is rarely experienced in real life with this tried and true movement. Its an outstanding looking watch with serious specs and build quality for the price point. Purchased the SRQ053 version of this preowned yesterday and look forward to receiving it.
Initially when this video showed up on my feed I thought it was the Seiko Solar (pseudo) Pogue...happy that it wasn't because I hope that one is good
MAMACOO Stunning watches stunning video you are special i love it keep it up
I love Seiko, and I also love your reviews. So there.
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I really wish Seiko would put clasps with enough micro adjust in their watches. I have one of the cheaper speedtimers and the thing I like about it least is the two holes of micro adjust. That makes it very difficult to get a good fit with. That watch is stunning though, i know the specifications may not make up to the price, but at the end of the day watches are about design and that has a great design.
It's getting annoying now that Seiko/Grand Seiko just cannot figure out how to give their bracelets more adjustment :
They should case these movements with the automatic works off to slim it down. Nothing wrong with hand-winding a watch. Especially at the cost of an otherwise 14+mm thick.
Own it, love it. Purchased it for much less than retail, and Seiko always inflates it’s daily accuracy - the example I have runs within +/- 5.
Can attest to the top heaviness, but compared to the Marinemaster 300, this automatic Speedtimer is svelte.
It is a great looking watch, but way too big for my barely 6" wrists 😢. I do, however, have a vintage 36mm speedtimer with the 7a38 quartz movement. 😊 fingers crossed seiko will think about us smaller wrist enthusiasts when it comes to their higher end mechanical pieces 🤞
@@ms.bunniesarecute2287 Totally get that! My wrist is a bit above average, fortunately or not I still can’t decide?! I do really like the newer Pogue-inspired version, and the movement is fantastic.
The Seiko Speedtimers are best in their Quartz versions. Half the price. More accurate than your Rolex. Less weight. Solar. Everyone knows the Speedtimer Quartz is what u get if want a great affordable chrono.
The Patek 5208 Grand Complication Minute Repeater Chronograph has the same quirk where hacking the seconds will also adjust the chrono time. Well, adjusting the time when the chrono is running - I don't believe it has hacking seconds.
I got the Seiko SSB429P1 instead at just about $250. I just wanted the looks of this SRQ and this SSB429P1 gives a very similar look at a mere fraction of the price. I actually like the looks better cause it's a reverse panda. If you just want the looks of this SRQ watch and not care about having an automatic mechanical movement and sapphire glass, then the SSB429P1 is a really good Mecaquarz, hardlex alternative. It doesn't have lume though if you care about that. I don't so it's fine with me. I absolutely love this SSB429P1.
Also adjusting the chronograph time while Setting the actual time is one of the most „it’s not a bug, it‘s a feature“ish things I have heard in a long time .. and I work in IT 😅
You are suuuper underestimating that movement. The setting hour/chrono, is because it's a triple vertical clutch.
The top heavness is normal for this type of chronograph. It sounds like theres nothing wrong with the watch. You just dont like big chronos.
I'd go so far as to say that the only Seiko automatic movements worth considering are the 4S15, 9S65, or the cheapest possible NH35 you can get off Aliexpress. Otherwise the 6R and 4R movements are all just upscaled 7S26's, seemingly with no attempt at improving accuracy, and not worth the awkward $500 - $2,000 price tag Seiko is asking. At that price I'd much rather get an ETA2824/SW200/Miyota9015 watch or go HAQ (which is the route I went). Go big (Grand Seiko) or go home (cheapest possible Aliexpress NH35 homage).
I'm genuinely impressed with how close AMZWATCH were able to replicate every aspect of this very very goofy looking classic watch.
The size of the Seiko logo is way too big, I noticed this straight away when trying on a Presage Cocktail Time 'Midnight Mockingbird' a beautiful watch ruined by the oversized logo which completely dominates the dial along with it's case thickness probably due to the date and power reserve complications.
I don't deserve better. 😔
Yes you do 😊
“Some of you even deserve better” 😂 love the dry comedy
Agree 100%, especially when a Sinn 903 St II can be had at roughly the same price.
I see those at $1,500 more.
@@YoureTerrific This is strange because my 903 cost me a bit under 3,000EUR. I agree that it's substantially higher than 2,500USD but nowhere to be 1,500USD higher.
Lol, not anymore.
The 8r48 does have a vertical clutch and a column wheel. I can see that the watch has a bad weight distribution and a bad bracelet, but the movement isn't that bad.
Although the claimed accuracy is below average
I watch a sports channel that opens with the same song. I thought my TH-cam had glitched, I open and closed it and I was so confused.
It's so funny, despite your criticism, watching this video makes me want this watch. At a discount though. I just really like the look, and the weight and power reserve just aren't deal breakers for me.
Well well well! I found out about this one a few months back and just got me thinking that this is somehow Seikos only modern chronograph, despite they produced a ton of chrnographs back in the 70s and now you only get their Quartz chronographs. Also the price is ridiculously high. There are a lot of brands that are offering much much better watches half of the price of this one. I saw some on Hanhart website they are pretty nice and in the same price range and with German heritage.
So yeah being a Seiko fan boy i would agree with you that this one is not worth. It will worth if i have shit load of money and i have bought all the other watches on my list then i will get this one.
As compared to this i would definitely go for the 50th anniversary re released SRQ029 which is the modern interpretation of the panda chronograph. That one looks a lot good and is more wearable. Perhaps you should check that one.
It is very attractive though. Perhaps a nice rubber or leather rally style strap would hold it in place better.
Many of the negative aspects that you mention are in many of the new models of Seiko. I brought the accuracy issue to one of the sales persons of the boutique in Frankfurt and he was struggling to justify such a bad accuracy in a 2k+ watch. If you go Seiko, better go quartz.
You are not supposed to tell me what to wear or what to buy
You should have mentioned the specifications, advantages and disadvantages of the watch and left the choice to the viewer
You don't have to wear a 170 gram watch when you are skinny and have a thin wrist as well.
You must inspect what you want to buy before and be careful about it
There are watches that are thinner and have less weight. Go and wear it to fit your little weight
There are many people who like this weight and ask for more...and there are some who want it with a thickness of more than 15 mm and also ask for more.
I think that in this video you are addressing haters of the Seiko brand
They also did not see it on the ground
I advise you next time to go to the exhibition, put it in your hand, and examine it carefully and slowly
If you don't like it, leave it to someone else... There are many options that will suit you better
There are many criticisms of this watch in this video
No one can give you a watch with full specifications without errors, especially at this price
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I think the wearing experience might be a quirk of the movement design, I've tried on a Knot with the NE88 and it was very top heavy and bobbly.
It could just be that watches with these movements need wider and better bracelets to just feel properly situated.
As it stands, not a great amount of temptation for this one
They need to make a thinner one with manual wind and a high quality strap
When it comes to fine imitation watches, MAMACOO delivers. I've bought from them several times, and I've never been let down.
Yes!!! Many chronograph watches are top heavy, throwing off the entire wearing experience!
Iam looking at you Longines!
Will placing this watch on a leather strap help?
Good video. The only thing I found weird was knocking Seiko for using an in-house movement like they aren't one of the biggest movement manufacturers in the world. Although I admit that the thought of a Seiko Speedtimer using an ETA7750 does tickle my brain in a funny way.
Completely agree with this brand. Bought a seiko 5 GMT. Returned it the same day I put it on my wrist. Felt like cheap plastic on my wrist. Something you would find out of a cereal box promotion. For the price point of these watches, the quality and material is severely overvalued
Look into Seikos sister brand ORIENT, amazing watches, elegant, amazing dials for over half the price
For me the discussion stops when you have a 42mm case and anything over 13mm in height. Show me a 38mm chronograph with an automatic movement that is under 12,5mm thick, and you have an insta-buy. I'm referring to the Zenith El Primero Chronomaster, preferably the panda version.
Seikos are THICK. Nearly all of them are hockey pucks, even for their simple movements. Yeah they're bulletproof, but they're not even any more accurate. This also goes for Grand Seiko.
Just buy the solar speedtimer, it's a far better watch
The dial is terrific! Make this in quartz, slim out the case and sell it for $1000. I'd buy two.
Yo do realize that mech a quartz mov costs $20?