North Melbourne as a club have never recovered since Dennis Pagan has moved on more than anyone in recent history he built the success through development of boys into men not always being politically correct or everyone’s best friend but he was the man responsible for the success Wayne definitely played a massive role but Look back and realise Dennis was the key to success
That was very disrepectful to Sam , as a north supporter and member , we wanted and had a right to hear these answers to these questions sam bought to the for, not to mention , Sam agreed not to go on with it when Ed pushed the last question. Because Wayne did the wrong thing, the presedent and full back thought they had free riegn to unsult Sam on national tv, when he acuallly treaded very carefully and asked the questions respectfully. I hope they both apologized to sam and it should of been publically.
“We’re not a one-man team.” And yet as soon as Carey left, North was never the same again. Pagan’s Paddock worked because it was built around Carey’s skills in the forward line. Without him, it was never going to work.
Maybe the biggest ramification for a club ever. Ruined the club, destroyed Carey's career as a top line player, no doubt it made Denis Pagan resign and join Carlton the following year. Its not the first time its happened at a VFL/AFL club...human nature never changes...incredible what some are willing to risk despite the cost
Carlton haven’t been the same since 01 and the salary cap saga , Essendon hasn’t been the same since 13 drug saga , and north hasn’t been the same since 02 Carey scandal
I remember Micks dad Bryan Martyn was on the show a few weeks later and conceded that Mick overreacted and whether Mick had spoken to Wayne was a fair question
Skinny was also on the week before he passed away. I remember Eddie saying that Bryan said something like "Mate, I'll be on tonight because I won't be here next week"
Wish I could go back in time and tell Martyn that the team was about Wayne Carey and that Norf wouldn't go close to sniffing another grand final for the next 23 years.
Not true, they had a few chances after 2012 but faded when it counted, did not have the right coach to go the next step, he was to sl oiw to react when changes on the field needed to be made and chose sacking players while at the top of their game as the option.
@@doriankeating1963They never had another legitimate chance to be a premiership team. The closest they got was in 2007 when they finished 4th on the ladder. In the Finals, they lost to Geelong by 106 points, and to Port by 87 points. They honestly had no business to finish where they did that season, and everyone knew it. Two years later, they were back to missing the Finals.
If there is a positive to come out of this, it has to be the best Banner in the crowd after he went to the crows. It depicted the word CROWs is an acronym for Carey Roots Our Wives........ Australian humour at its best.....
Bringing on that Dr. Allan was meaningless. Sam asked some hard questions that every viewer wanted to hear answered and he just got defensive and refused to answer. What was the point coming on, so he can brag that the club had the support of the sponsors?
I like Sam but I disagree. I don't think Carey won those 96 & 99 flags, North were lucky enough to have developed a team of good depth and skill. To say Carey was 'the man' is disrespectful to Longmire and other North forwards. As a Collingwood supporter I was glad to see North get those flags. They choked in 98 but they deserved 96 & 99. From what I've seen and heard of Carey since he left North he's an arsehole. I hate his football views when he is/was on the commentary team and the other thing is Luke Darcy is a flog to say he's the greatest. I can name 20 VFL/AFL players that are/were better. I changed my all time greatest team last year and replaced Carey with Brereton at CHF. Lesson learned out of this is you don't get involved with someone else's partner.
There was a time in the early 2000s where they were "The Kangaroos Football Club" - it was when they were flirting with Canberra and being a 2nd Sydney team.
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North Melbourne as a club have never recovered since Dennis Pagan has moved on more than anyone in recent history he built the success through development of boys into men not always being politically correct or everyone’s best friend but he was the man responsible for the success
Wayne definitely played a massive role but Look back and realise Dennis was the key to success
Credit to all on this show - Sammy asked the gutsy questions.
That was very disrepectful to Sam , as a north supporter and member , we wanted and had a right to hear these answers to these questions sam bought to the for, not to mention , Sam agreed not to go on with it when Ed pushed the last question.
Because Wayne did the wrong thing, the presedent and full back thought they had free riegn to unsult Sam on national tv, when he acuallly treaded very carefully and asked the questions respectfully.
I hope they both apologized to sam and it should of been publically.
No one should ever feel sorry for Sam Newman
“We’re not a one-man team.”
And yet as soon as Carey left, North was never the same again. Pagan’s Paddock worked because it was built around Carey’s skills in the forward line. Without him, it was never going to work.
Here we sit 2024 and the roos are still cooked,W Carey killed this club in G Archers dunny
😂😂😂😂
Can't blame the King for the Kangaroos poor decision making over that last 20 years
@@richardbehan8118 we train em up and ship them out.. we're the training team it seems like.
Maybe the biggest ramification for a club ever. Ruined the club, destroyed Carey's career as a top line player, no doubt it made Denis Pagan resign and join Carlton the following year. Its not the first time its happened at a VFL/AFL club...human nature never changes...incredible what some are willing to risk despite the cost
Great episode and guests - huge scandal the Carey scandal. One of the biggest in VFL/AFL history. The media coverage was huge/
This was the beginning of the end for North 😢
Carlton haven’t been the same since 01 and the salary cap saga , Essendon hasn’t been the same since 13 drug saga , and north hasn’t been the same since 02 Carey scandal
I remember Micks dad Bryan Martyn was on the show a few weeks later and conceded that Mick overreacted and whether Mick had spoken to Wayne was a fair question
Skinny was also on the week before he passed away. I remember Eddie saying that Bryan said something like "Mate, I'll be on tonight because I won't be here next week"
sam newmans a funny guy wouldn't have had a show without him
Wish I could go back in time and tell Martyn that the team was about Wayne Carey and that Norf wouldn't go close to sniffing another grand final for the next 23 years.
Not true, they had a few chances after 2012 but faded when it counted, did not have the right coach to go the next step, he was to sl oiw to react when changes on the field needed to be made and chose sacking players while at the top of their game as the option.
He went on to play for Carlton. As we know, they haven't done any better than North.
@@doriankeating1963They never had another legitimate chance to be a premiership team.
The closest they got was in 2007 when they finished 4th on the ladder. In the Finals, they lost to Geelong by 106 points, and to Port by 87 points. They honestly had no business to finish where they did that season, and everyone knew it.
Two years later, they were back to missing the Finals.
The day the Shinboner spirit died a little
Now these days it’s died a lot
great vid thanks for that... got some PTSD from it tho
It’s very rare on this show that Trevor Marmalade is actually serious, rather than making a joke.
I know right, I was still waiting for the punchline
I was waiting for him to crack a joke, but he didn’t.
Why put your hand up to come on a show and then refuse to answer tough questions...
I think he wanted to convey a message to club supporters and sponsors that the group was united.
If there is a positive to come out of this, it has to be the best Banner in the crowd after he went to the crows.
It depicted the word CROWs is an acronym for Carey Roots Our Wives........ Australian humour at its best.....
Quality banter right there.
Massive news at the time
This saga was as enthralling as the _Titan_ sub.
Any chance you have uploaded the rest of this episode?
2002 what a time
Aylett a champion ❤
"Norf are not a one man team" Well without Carey they would never have won a flag.Greatest player there has ever been
Rubbish, in both Grand Finals, he played very ordinary, never won a Norm Smith Medal
R.I.P. Dr Aylett. Represented his club so well and gave Sam nothing.
look at them all looking so smart wearing ties.. & wonder if barb is still goin to the footy?
Pretty certain she died
To me it just shows that for all the great things Carey did in football, he's got nuthin'! As a man and a mate, the lowest of the low.
How about Anthony Stevens wife?
What was that about statues? Was a bit hard to understand
God crazy to see so many of them become managers now. Carey was a disgrace.
Takes two to tango.
So was Stephens wife
And to think that the Swans sold Wayne to North for $5k …!!! Sigh ….
Dr Aylett batting away everything from Sam like it ain't no thing...
Bringing on that Dr. Allan was meaningless. Sam asked some hard questions that every viewer wanted to hear answered and he just got defensive and refused to answer. What was the point coming on, so he can brag that the club had the support of the sponsors?
Shouldn't be calling Sam that word on live tv, very poorly spoken Martyn.
Who cares, it’s only Newman hahaha
I like Sam but I disagree. I don't think Carey won those 96 & 99 flags, North were lucky enough to have developed a team of good depth and skill. To say Carey was 'the man' is disrespectful to Longmire and other North forwards.
As a Collingwood supporter I was glad to see North get those flags.
They choked in 98 but they deserved 96 & 99.
From what I've seen and heard of Carey since he left North he's an arsehole.
I hate his football views when he is/was on the commentary team and the other thing is Luke Darcy is a flog to say he's the greatest.
I can name 20 VFL/AFL players that are/were better.
I changed my all time greatest team last year and replaced Carey with Brereton at CHF.
Lesson learned out of this is you don't get involved with someone else's partner.
As a North supporter I agree with just about all you've said here.
Carey is easily in the top 5 players to play the game.
Mick Martyn, I.Q of 200.
Micks career choice was footballer or nuclear physicist. 🙂
Why go on and not answer questions?
How defensive is / was that stary eyed Dr bloke?
Mick wasn’t happy with Sam
Why put your name forward to come on if you refuse to answer a lot of questions. 🤦🏼♂️
Horrible time. Never forget it.
Aylett a strong leader.
Media hasnt changed and Nixon ?
Demi God. Had to Google that
They did sack boomer
Ricky Nixon another Joke
FFS Eddie, it’s not ‘The Kangaroos Football Club’!
There was a time in the early 2000s where they were "The Kangaroos Football Club" - it was when they were flirting with Canberra and being a 2nd Sydney team.
It was the name of the club at the time.
it was at the time peanut
Clubs in NRL removed suburban names as well at that time 🤷♂️
@@Will-nb8qk NRL is for puffs, tho