5 Things Every New Linux User Should Try!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ส.ค. 2024
- When you first start using Linux it can be easy to fall into just using Windows on Linux but there's so much more out there that's worth trying so how about giving it a bit of a shot.
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when i started playing around with linux, i wanted to get something very familiar to Windows, but when I found out how nice TWMs can be, I gave them a shot and it is truly worth it.
Same. I was so used to alt-tabbing between windows, and when I found out about edge snapping that made aligning multiple open windows easier, but tiling window managers are my jam now. You don't realize how much time you've been wasting dragging and resizing windows until you don't have to do it anymore.
TWMs brought me to more advanced linux distros tbh
To be fair, I tried Ubuntu in 2018 after being away from Linux since late 2011 (when I dual-booted Ubuntu from 2010 - 2011 even through Unity) and I hated GNOME. My search for a good KDE Plasma distro led me all over the place until I landed on a then new Arch-based distro called EndeavourOS. When Windows 11 was released, I dumped Windows for Linux and haven't looked back. With Copilot and now Recall, I won't be back to Windows anytime soon, if ever.
My experience is completely the opposite with TWM. I have my windows placed in a very specific hyper optimized way, that greatly fluctuate position size and screeen based entirely on what I am working on, or my mood that having forced. How TWM managers function makes me want to pull my hair out in frustration constantly fighting all the edge snaps, and forced tiling and resizing. (To be fair I have hated tiling since windows 8 started auto snapping things)
I am an edge case though as having multiple tiles appearing on top in focus makes me unable to focus where I need to focus and thus unable to actually do anything. I also have most things in some form of translucence to see between things unless gaming. So for me this tiling managers where a nightmare, as it's infinitely faster for me to set up and my mind has the muscle memory for exactly where to go to get to the correct size and position for my mood or project. (Nothing ever touches the edges, and is usually floating somewhere in the middle then tiled on level of importance and order of need.) So for me watching how everyone else in linux does tiling managers induces extreme stress and if multiple windows are up I am usually unable to follow along due to how split my attention is.
Respect that it works wonders for everyone else. I am jealous that you all are able to use it as well as y'all do!
@@songrimredtide4352 Same. I've been using Hyprland lately, and I think I can customize it to the point I can use it by utilizing rules for workspaces.
But still, Wayfire remains the single best compositor I've used so far by a wide margin. It's got window snapping, a grid-based workspace area. The only thing I found to be lacking is per-monitor workspaces. Haven't tried the most recent release because something is busted, so I don't know if they added it or not.
Without any context of the foss and privacy-conscious communities, i had a friend who chatted with me about his hobby in the linux community. I was a Windows 10 user for almost thirty years, as I was just a bit tech illiterate and used what came default with the computers i bought. computers aren't my hobby, i use my computer to do my hobby and so i depended on windows a lot. i work with text and digital art files almost every day, as well as conduct research and write a lot of notes. i also have weekly meetings most of the year, so i relied a lot on my headset working as intended. i didn't want to babysit or tinker with my operating system if i didn't have too. eventually earlier this year, my friend encouraged me to transition from windows to linux. while i already knew that different linux distributions existed prior to meeting my friend, i wouldn't have made the switch without his help and encouragement. while the learning curve was a little rocky, i've stuck with my current installation ever since. there are some features that i miss, that my friend doesn't really understand, and i'm still trying to make my new desktop environment feel like home. but its alright, so far.
how can you be a windows 10 user for over 30 years it's only a decade old
@@sashakoshkaJust disregard the 10 part
I'm an old timer. I started using Unix at an actual terminal. I love me some terminal.
I'm not an old timer, I'm younger than WinXP, but I still love me some terminal. Those 'mini' computers in the schools basement looked soooo cool.
I'm a DOS baby, terminals all the way (as long as you know what not to do)
I could NOT wait to get away from that garbage. Never going back.
@@claycassin8437 which garbage? Old timers? Lear Siegler terminals? Unix?
The greatest thing about the terminal is the tactile satisfaction of working in it. Nothing beats the feeling of typing a command and watching the terminal work.
I had to do that garbage for years before Windows matured. I will NOT be going back to the stone age again. If you get satisfaction from watching typed commands get executed, try DOS. It was a blast. As soon as Linux FINALLY matures past that crap, I will give it a go(for the third try).
2025 - Year of Linux on Desktops (& Laptops) - Finally?
I can feel it in my timbers
No, it's not gonna be.
Linux people are disconnected from reality and don't understand what average desktop user wants. Linux on desktop was bad, still is bad, and it will be bad (unless somewhat very dramatic changes). It's very buggy, and many features aren't present.
For example, bug 865 is still not fixed, even after 20 years, literally. Or you still can't view SMART status of nvme drives in gui. Apparently, nvme is a rocket science for linux in 2024, despite CrystalDiskInfo has been a thing for Windows for years.
Or can't record gameplay with hardware acceleration on amd gpus.
I can on and on, and for other people the list may be different, but it wouldn't be empty.
@@PiterDeVries 2025 will be the year of Linux for some people. Maybe not for you. You can stay on Windows for the meantime. Cheers!
@@PiterDeVries bro, average desktop user wants to open the browser and that's it
Obviously not, but there could be movement, depending on whether or not Microsoft can provide a version of Windows 11 with Recall and all the AI and other attack vectors turned off, for corporate and government clients. If they can't/won't, it seems that some big customers will turn to something that is easier to protect--maybe EU governmental organisations, since the EU is standing up (a bit) to the US monopolies at the moment.
It's not even that I especially want Linux, though I'm happy with what I'm using now; I just want an OS that will help me to do things the way I want to, and not predate on me, and I don't mind paying for that. I have happy memories of OS X in the days of the Big Cats, and I wouldn't mind paying for that. But you probably need FOSS these days to be sure your OS won't try to do ransomware with your data (it's called The Cloud). Who knew? Stallman was right.
I've started Arch like two weeks ago. It's a rabbit hole of way too much tinkering and I love it. My goal wasn't to substitute Windows, but speak its language like I can with Windows (at least as a "casual power user"). So far it's been going great. Successfully bricked my system at least 4 times and recovered from the last 2 of them. I'm actually having fun learning Linux and how it works. Windows hides so much and has their weird ways that I was never able to wrap my head around. The archwiki has been an immense manual, as well as current AI models. If it wasn't for either of those, I would've had to rely on random forums and endless google searches, which would've hurt my impression of Linux.
Would I do it again, yeah probably.
Hey what did you do to bork your system? Just so I don't replicate hehe
@@opposite342 Remember that I've only got like 2 weeks of experience, so take what I'm explaining to you with a grain of salt.
For context, I have a btrfs file system with GRUB. btrfs allows for snapshots of the system, allowing for rollbacks. I use snapper to routinely take snapshots, but I use snapper-rollback (NOT snapper rollback) for rollbacks.
My most recent failure started with an update to the kernel (Linux). Installed it, rebooted. It booted into Linux, but failed to properly startup, and I was greeted with an emergency shell. Looking through the journalctl system logs, for some reason my EFI System Partition (ESP) couldn't be mounted to /efi. Reading deeper, logs stated that the vfat file system format was unrecognized.
vfat is a common file system format, and usually its "module" is loaded at boot so it is recognized. So for some reason, this module, and whatever else, was not being loaded at boot.
Puzzled, I simply revered with snapper-rollback to before the kernel update. But what exactly happened? I have no idea, but I have some theories.
I remembered that ESP could be mounted on /boot instead of /efi. /etc/fstab tells your system where to mount things at boot, so I changed my ESP to mount to /boot instead of /efi. I manually remounted ESP onto /efi, reinstalled GURB. I then compiled the initramfs; when your computer boots, it loads this first, then intifamfs loads the rest of your system. I then ran grub-mkconfig to update my /boot/grub/grub.cfg, which tells GRUB where my initramfs is on my system.
So for further context, on initial boot, your computer looks in ESP for a bootloader, in this case, GRUB. It reads grub.cfg, and gives you the defined entries in it, which may or may not be borked. You select the entry, and then your system boots to the initramfs it points to.
So after doing all of that, the system booted fine with ESP on /boot. Okay, now let's move it back to /efi. I did that, and then system boot failed to complete. I ran into a similar log when I first started. I then tried to rollback my changes way back to the intial snapshot, when ESP was on /efi. However, it also failed to complete boot.
So this meant that my snapshots were not working now. I freaked out a bit, but then I realized that it meant that the problem was isolated to something about GRUB, ESP, and initramfs.
Turns out that when I moved back from /boot to /efi, I thought I was smart. I didn't install GRUB on the ESP because it's already installed on the ESP, so I thought reinstalling it was a redundant step. I only recompiled the initramfs (I think) and rebuilt the grub.cfg.
So I reinstalled GRUB on my ESP, now being mounted on /efi, rebooted, and the system fully booted successfully.
I asked ChatGPT this, and have yet to fully confirm it, but it states that when installing GRUB, within its binary file, it writes the location of where to find grub.cfg. Since I reinstalled it when it was mounted on /boot, and making grub.cfg usually ouputs to /boot/grub/grub.cfg, whose location is no longer on the ESP because the ESP is on /efi.
But then how was I able to at least boot into into a initramfs? If grub.cfg pointed to an invalid initramfs on the ESP, it wouldn't boot because it doesn't exist.
So when you mount A onto B, A now points to B. However, what happened to the original contents of A? They are still there. If you unmount B, you gain access to A's files again. So I speculate that perhaps GRUB was looking at an outdated grub.cfg or initranfs at /boot rather than on the ESP. But I did (did I?) recompile my initramfs and grub.cfg...
idk, it works now. I'll have to test it more later and do more research.
The Arch Wiki (Gentoo's is good too) and LLM's are pretty good for general overviews and troubleshooting common problems, but if you haven't already, I would also get in the habit of reading man pages when you want more specific information about a certain tool.
Also, it sounds like you're already doing this, but please do take anything LLM's say with a grain of salt. Its amazing how plausible-sounding yet completely wrong a lot of their information tends to be.
By the way, is Arch Linux your first Linux distro, or did you start with something else first? Did you use the archinstall script or go manual?
@@JansHeikkinen Arch is my first distro. Crazy how people recommend it as a first intro, but I also understand why recommend it. It's perfect for me (for now).
I did a manual install like three times just so I understood what was going on (and I also borked it). I was also trying to wrap my head around btrfs, subvolumes, snapper, and how to properly rollback.
After I had a good grasp of what was somewhat going on, (and after another bork), I used archinstall.
And yes, I've been reading manuals nonstop.
@@UsaraDark Okay that's honestly quite impressive. I've only ever heard people recommend Arch as a first distro ironically. For people who *are* willing to learn how Linux systems work, and like to customise them, Arch Linux is definitely the one I recommend most, but it's also not really something I'd expect any beginner to use (successfully).
I've only recently started messing with BTRFS (along with LUKS/LVM) in the past week or so, and honestly I imagine that made the whole experience a lot more complicated compared to a pure filesystem like EXT4. BTRFS is nice to use though; I really like its builtin snapshots and compression.
it's quite interesting that I went through the whole gui thing unintentionally, I started with Kubuntu and Manjaro where I used their gui tools all the time, then the further I got into Manjaro the more I realized the power of the command line, then I switched to Arch and tried doing everything I could from the command line because that's what the Arch wiki usually recommended. Then I moved to Endeavour OS after I was having issues because I screwed up my install from faafo (fucking around and finding out) and I didn't feel like going through the Arch install.
I have been really happy with Endeavour OS for over a year now, and probably wont change
I came to the GUI thing kicking and screaming. "You'll have to take my command line access from my cold dead hands." All my first computing experiences up through punch cards, teletypewriters, CRT TTYs and DOS were command line and I resented work imposing Win3.1 on us. I'd fire the machine up then drop immediately to the DOS prompt. All through the Win9x, WinXP, Win7 and Win10 years at work, I'd always have a command line open somewhere because am I going to do file management with a GUI, like an animal?
With Linux as my daily driver since the kids got their own machines in the early 2000's and didn't need mine for school, I've always had a terminal open somewhere. It's my happy place.
@@dingokidneysme too
Garuda Linux user, one of the major things that has saved me from several mistakes is the pre-configured backups being accessible from Grub, has let me undo noob mistakes in minutes that would have screwed me over otherwise
Please do a full video for window managers, like aimed at dummies! Please, we trust you. Thanks
Upvote for this! Great idea!
the funny thing about the using the terminal is its simple commands but microsoft wants to push for LLM which are just more human complex commands.
Can you imagine trying to script with prompts?
I loved your mention of Openbox. I spent 1 year on it and I loved it!
Also, I have to use a borrowed Windows machine for work and I noticed that my wrist hurts more than it used to be when I was full time using Linux. Too many mouse to keyboard travelling!
Hey Brodie, just wanted to mention this but I like the little editing flares you have been doing now. I have noticed them and think they make the video better!
I swapped Fully now. Running Fedora, with Tweaks and dash to panel, it has a great normal feel as windows, and no I didn't even install archmenu. I never used the button I just type even in windows, lol.
I run a Full Studio Audio and Videos.
Game wise, I have not messed with much becuase I don't. But the games I did try all worked, except Warframe and I think there was a patch or someting for it.
Everyone, basically try a VM and try linux.
You can use any terminal and will use it very little until YOU choose to. There is plenty GUI.
You can edit all your configs with vscode or anything. GUIs are there.
I kinda disagree. Running linux on a vm will never give the full experience. Try bare metal, dual boot or smth
VMs are slow and often buggy. I suggest shrinking your Windows partition and dual booting
good thing about CLI apps is they are inherently network transparent. So if you are used to them you can use them remotely or in a development container.
Technically x11 (and plan9/derivatives) let you do this for gui apps, but no-one does it on x11 anymore
@@SFSAtlas x11 is network transparent by design but 1. sadly wear e moving on to wayland. 2. x11 with compositors already lost its network transparent protocl.
@@ChrisWijtmansit's not network-transparent. It's network-capable and pretty poor at that
@@guguludugulu incorrect.
I like the format of this video Brodie - nice and chilled. Personally I started on Ubuntu Studio (I'm a muso) and couldn't get on with the age of the packages. I then went fully cutting edge - Manjaro (yeah shoot me), followed by Arch, Endeavour, Garuda then back to Endeavour. Didn't like feeling on the edge all the time so settled somewhere in-between on Fedora KDE. As you said - have a play about with the distros - you aren't locked into a single one. Experiment and you'll find your home after a few months or so. You'll learn along the way too if you want to.
Avoiding the terminal is my life goal. This can partially explain my.... enjoyment of the system
People say that you cannot escape the CLI on linux , but honestly its true for windows too just less so.
any power user will use CLI on any operating system. its just not an argument.
@@ChrisWijtmans CLI is just better for certain tasks. That will always be the case.
@@LaughingOrangeExactly. Linux just has it better when it comes to the command-line, as bash, zsh, & fish just beat powershell and cmd hands downs. Not to mention that they're used heavily on servers, which of course is one of the main use cases for Linux nowadays (as well as supercomputers, which all of the top 500 use some OS based on the Linux kernel).
You'd think Microsoft would take this Linux on the desktop threat a bit more seriously given all of these unpopular Windows 8, 8.1 and 10 did and now 11 turned that up to, well, 11. But oh well, more users for us! 😂
I can confidently say I can use Linux Mint 100% without the terminal. I just choose to use it for certain tasks.
Many (vast majority) Windows users have been using Windows without CLI for decades. I'm certain that many user don't even know there's a cli in Windows.
I prefer a CLI myself for a lots of tasks, It's just faster.
yeah tiling window managers are a pain in the ass to setup but the windowing system it offers is just so much better
Years ago you showed me a WM when i was first giving Linux a serious try, i was amazed and these days im an wm addict 😂 i also now religiously live in the terminal, I just love having what i need when i need it and only when i need it. My games run ridiculously faster than they did on Windows and at idle.. 300mb is nice lol
Thanks Brodie!
As a recent convert the terminal stuff it on point. I can't imagine not using the terminal to install stuff now, it is just quick and easy. When it comes to managing files I'm still a fan of the GUI, some of it is because I deal with a lot of images. Having a visual element of it helps me understand where stuff is. That being said moving stuff around, making new directories, removing old directories and so on, terminal all the way.
I will die on the hill that Krita is a better program than photoshop. That was the one thing I was worried about when making the full switch to Linux, not having photoshop. After a couple months of using Krita, I'm sad I haven't been using it longer. I haven't even fully dived into what you can do with brushes in it either.
My first Linux distro was Mint, after a recommendation from a friend. While it was certainly useable, I didn't really start enjoying my experience until I tried i3wm. That was the turning point for my linux journey. When I started learning how to use the terminal more and eschewing my Windows habits.
Nice to see Niri mentioned. I found Niri a while back, and ever since I didn't want to use anything else.. Scrolling just feels right.
05:32 only reason I like terminal package managers is they are better at auto removing and marking as auto installed packages (like apt vs synaptic, zypper vs yast2)
Zypper just sucks. If you delete something, it often ends up deleting essential dependecies without warning.
If it doesn't, the next update you do, it will just reinstall those packages, and the only way to prevent it is to freeze them.
Also doesn't support parallel downloads, and it's slow af.
Zypper it's the reason i switched to fedora
Also useful advice for experienced Linux users. I still haven't tried a tiling window manager, I'll have to see if it can break my decades long KDE addiction, always seemed to come back to KDE eventually.
been helping to beckon over a couple people lately who have had Enough Of Windows & one has already asked me how to build some rando's project on github from source.. truly some people were born ready; these are great suggestions for someone who does the fish-to-water thing like that. enrichment.
You know what nobody talks about and should. How to check for and fix possible corruption on hard drives. Drives me crazy. There's no viable replacement for Windows Chkdsk or Sfc. Oh there's fsck but that can only be used on unmounted drives. Also ntfsfix but that doesn't fix any hard drive problems but sweeps them under the rug. The recommendation is to have a drive with Windows installed and use Chkdsk and Sfc. The other solution that's offered is use HBCD (Hiren's BootCD).
fschk is done on boot before mounting rootfs/home as r/w. Linux boots with rootfs as ro. It depends on the distro though but that is how it is usually.
I actually swapped to Kubuntu this week, mainly because of concerns over the new Recall feature. I was a W10 user so it wouldn’t have affected me anyway, but I figured to go ahead and make the switch because the things I was interested in learning was easier to do through Linux + I knew Steam would drop W10 at some point after EOL like they did 7&8
I really try to use Linux, but there are always dealbreakers. The latest one was Discord screen sharing.
Is it about the sound not working during screenshare? I was wondering about that too, long ago. Turned out I just had to install Pipewire and enable it using the terminal.
No audio when streaming is a huge blow for me that I cannot overlook. Also not being able to play Fortnite due to the anticheat. I’d probably have switched over by now if those 2 things weren’t ongoing issues.
@@Stuke51 fortnite anticheat is a trojan spyware. might as well use windows recall.
Huh. Works fine for me on hyprland
Works on my machine. You're probably just stupid.
I totally and wholeheartedly agree with this video. Everything in it, honestly. I have been running Gentoo, straight-alsa, X11, OpenRC, and the system I now have mostly set up flips 75% of that on its head.
1: people stuck to Windows want a repeatable user experience. a different window manager is a car crash for someone who's money making life is tired to a repeatable behavior from a computer. It was that way with the start button of Win95, but went less noticed because Win95 added so many new users who knew nothing of win 3.0/1. and that was just a launcher when you get down to it. At this point we have 30 years of computer convention around Windows and how it manages windows, and even if one person has some pretty torqued up settings, the likelyhood of being able to still use that system if you had to is very high.
"Try it and see what you like" is not going to be a persuasive statement to anybody but a super casual, not someone looking to replace their primary system and especially not someone in a position where making money is dependent on their workflow built from Windows experience. This is a use schism that I just don't see people framing the discussion accurately.....
That's assuming the video is addressing people locked into windows rather than regular people that are disgustedwit hthe shit windows is doing. If you're locked into windows for work you won't be switching your OS in the first place
@@TurtleKwitty This misses the point. The rest of the list in the video are all perfectly reasonable suggestions once you're using a distro of some kind, but is undercut by the first item on the list which frames literally every non-terminal interaction with the computer.
Also, it is not mutually exclusive to have work related needs and to be disgusted by the shit that Windows is doing. You may not realise, but your remark set it up as either-or.
@@themadmallard The person locked into windows for work will stay in windows for work. The person disgusted by Microsoft will try out Linux when not in a work time crunch, the only either-or here is your assumption of people going cold turkey even if they're locked into windows
@@TurtleKwitty Thats kinda built in the way you typed it out as saying 'rather'... but thanks for clarifying.
and don't get me wrong, i think people should try. But the kind of adoption levels being sought after by linux advocates is not going to happen by making someone willing to switch feel like a bad person for wanting the windows to behave closer to... Windows. And it seems like that tends to be the response when the user resists these new/fancy window managers. And my point was also that it was not just a Linux problem, but every time MS @$!#@ around with Windows in a paradigm shift( 3.1, 95, 7 to an extent, 8, 10, and now 11), the backlash was for the same reason.
I think you over estimate how many people are in that position. Most people just use a pc to use a web browser and that can be done on any desktop/mobile OS. I would even argue that quite a lot of people are using a phone/tablet running IOS or Android rather than using a pc with windows or mac OS.
Fedora Workstation Plasma is my daily driver, but I LOVE tinkering with CachyOS, Arco, Opensuse Tumbleweed, and several others. I have a second Fedora installation that I'm trying to alter with some of the changes made in Nobara- mostly a learning experience.
Yeah I use fedora workstation for my actual work laptop, while using nobara for my private gaming rig. Couldnt be happier. Some stuff still sucks on linux and its hard to get things up and running sometimes. But Id rather spend a few hours trying to fix an issue and learn a thing or two, than spend another day on windows.
Thanks for video. Some real-world examples of when using a terminal would be a good choice would be really useful. Because as an "ordinary" user (windows history; no programming knowledge) you don't know what you don't know. I've never used a terminal but am quite open to the idea -- but *when* would I even think of using it?
Worth noting that Ranger, a terminal file manager, can indeed do image preview with a little setup! In fact, images are natively supported by Kitty, for example via `kitten icat the_image.png` (and Ranger can use that same interface)
In my case I use lf and wezterm, which has sixel support, so I just yoinked a script from the lf github wiki to convert images to sixel (using chafa).
Going for mainstream adoption the last thing you want is 100 bells and whistles. If you're going to deploy Linux laptop for Grandma it needs to work as simple as possible on the daily driver side
Speaking of terminal people should be aware that even if you click on icon of aplication to launch it you excuted a command to launch it in background with option to make it executable turned on.
To add to my comment people have no idea how many commands they issue on their distro without ever realizing. Open app,Close app, reboot, shutdown not to mention changing settings, applying them, installing apps via software center, removing apps via software center and so on. Basicaly people use commands one way or another all the time i linux but they aren't aware. Desktop environment in linux is essentially graphical representation of commands.
Regarding GUI tools, as a new Linux user, one thing I like about the MX Linux distro, is that it has a lot of GUI tools to do a lot of system tasks that can only be done on the terminal in other distros.
Since I don't do any graphical heavy work, I found myself in the commandline most of the time. On some days I don't even start the display manager after reboot. Just change to a tty and work from there.
I personally found that I like doing almost everything via GUI except for installing and updating software through package manager. Its just so much quicker using terminal that I dont know why you would want anything else - unless maybe you wanted to search for flatpaks or something.
As a fulltime Linux user since 2015, and off and on since mid-2000's there's things in here that I still haven't done. I've never really tried to fully live in a terminal nor fully in GUI. I've always had a bit of both.
It took me a very long time to try anything really different in terms of the windowing model. I mostly used KDE from 3.5 up to somewhere in Plasma 5 (5.12 or so) with a bit of XFCE mixed in here and there. Probably 2017ish I finally tried MATE, then GNOME in 2019, then switched over to Wayfire and then Sway where I am today. Somewhere in there I've also played around with Lxqt, Desq, and whatever that one from BSD was, Lumi-something?
Definitely done the different distros and release models though. Started with LFS, moved into Opensuse (old school pre-Leap/Tumbleweed Opensuse though I have used Leap since), then Arch. I've mostly swapped between those 2, but I've briefly tried Fedora (15), and played around with multiple BSDs even daily driving PCBSD (RIP) for about 6 months. Even the immutable thing - while not desktop I am using the "Transactional" Leap version on my home server. Not quite MicroOS, but close enough to count. Oh, also messed around with OpenSolaris a bit too, before Illumos and whatever is or is not going around in that world these days. Was super into distro hopping back in the day, not so much now.
I’ve been on Linux for a couple years now and never switched from PopOS until this week. This week I switched to Debian with XFCE and I’ve been loving it. I still would like to try Arch, maybe something really weird like Guix. But the stability and reliability of Debian is super appealing.
having support built-in for wifi on all major distros would be a good start. I installed popOS on a MacBook Pro last week, and though it looks and runs great, I had to find an adapter to connect it to an Ethernet cable in order to get the assorted wi-fi driver (via the terminal). I'm OK with doing that, but newbies will get frustrated, and never make the switch.
The number one piece of advice I would give anyone starting on Linux and especially if they're looking to go beyond the basics....use a VM and snapshots.
This way you can experiment with Linux in a relatively safe environment and can easily revert any changes....looking at you commenters telling people to rm their root dir ;).
Counterpoint: Skipping the snapshots saves disk space and improves performance, and borking and either fixing or reinstalling is rite of passage for Linux users. Fixing a truly borked install gives you wizard cred, but lots of practice installing Linux systems, with different partitioning schemes, filesystems and MBR vs UEFI is good stuff too.
Still use a VM, but work without the net sometimes.
Man vm suck, as they are either slow, or hard to configure to get them working right.
Literally the smoothest way to get into linux is to dual boot and be careful not to brick your entire system, just so you can fallback to windows if needed.
Then after 1 or 2 years, you jist delete windows and use linux only
@@dingokidneys I'm not sure installing teaches that much nowadays, it seems like a lot just run through an easy installer (which is good imo). The box with text that gives options and a next button is something very very familiar to windows users, lol. (It sounds like even Arch is that way)
One Piece mentioned
VMs are slow from windows host, i would recommend installing linux on actual hardware and use BTRFS for timeshift snapshots.
The only thing I need the terminal for anymore really is handling my NAS via SSH.
Everything for day to day use can be done with graphical tools.
Is that better or worse? Neither as it depends on someone's workflow.
How would you describe the Opensuse Slowroll release model ?
The thing about the CLI for me is, even if I spend the extra time to learn it (when in a proper GUI program you don't generally need to, unless it's something extra complex for a specialized task), am I going to remember the commands past the basic ones in a year or two? It's ALWAYS going to be a case of alternating between man files or wiki's to slowly build commands, or copying and pasting, which.. you may as well just have a button to just do it at that point. Either way it's just extra steps but less comfortable and harder to find, for the same thing. If you're doing the same things a lot, then it makes more sense, but then why aren't you automating/scripting that anyways? Maybe I'm just a more visual person, idk.
The big thing to me is knowing what options you have (without having to go separately research it), both for the commands and for the options/arguments/parameters. I could sit there going back and forth from some documentation, copying and pasting or slowly building commands, checking what arguments it can accept and tabbing back to enter them and then going to look at more, etc etc. Or we could just have a list of options where you can clearly see them without tabbing or other windows, and choose the relevant ones. You could even do it by keyboard, the mouse really isn't the point as much as old time Linux people seem to think. By default, Windows is designed to be controllable by keyboard alone in most instances (yes, in the GUI).
(Also random aside, back in the day I played FPS games with just a keyboard, before people realized mouse is just way better for that, lol. And it is. It very much is.)
Also, I don't know about existing package managers, but how are you discovering/finding programs via CLI? You're not, surely? Wouldn't it be searching online, and then coming back to start typing into the CLI? I don't see how that would be better than just installing directly from where you're searching. You see the program, description, maybe screenshots, and just click to install (or hit a key). Surely I can click or press one key faster than somebody can type "apt" let alone the rest of the line. If you already know what you're looking for, sure, but then.. why are you reinstalling the same things repeatedly? Is that not strange?
In windows, I have a folder of "portable" apps, when I reinstall windows (which is rare), they're already there and working. I can literally copy the shortcuts into the start menu, and open any I have on hotkeys by hotkey, and they're already working, no install, fully configured. Different people, different use cases and all, but I feel if you're repeatedly typing out the command to install the same already-known programs repeatedly, you might have some optimization potential.
I personally use both the gui and the cli, I usually look at both options and just use whichever is easier for each task if I do something a lot I do put it into a script. The cli is more consistent commands rarely change etc. which means I only have to learn them once usually unlike settings menus, it changes quite a bit when using windows though I find that I end up using the gui primarily on windows except for opening programs where I type it, another factor is what I'm doing if I'm gaming I'm probably going to be using my mouse more so my hand will already be on it, but if I'm doing something like coding or writing it's easier to type things.
You can search package managers though if I don't know what I'm looking for exactly yeah I'll be using a web browser, and autocomplete makes a big difference for working out what you can do and help commands so that you don't have to go to docs for most basic things, I can understand completely why someone wouldn't want to use the cli though it is a very different approach and depending what you use your computer for it might not add any value at all.
Its kinda funny you mention copy pasting as a negativethough considering that you just... dont have that option at all with GUIs? Whens the last time you had instructions for a gui that you could copy paste instead of tabbing back and forth through pages of pictures with red boxes and arrows (or better yet how often do those picture instructions turn out to be for a different version and just outright lie about where things are). If you care so little about what youre doing that copy pasting means you dont learn any of it then you certainly will never learn by following screenshot instructions either, but if you cared to learn it then you would.
Knowing what options you have is way easier with a cli I find. cli apps have the --help command for a convenient way to just show how to use it without needing to tab back and worth or other windows while the gui... you gotta hover every option to MAYBE get a bit of info on what it is, or just click it to see what it does and hope it doesnt bork anything. Good luck trying to get some actual details of what the program is doing from a GUI
Package managers tend to have categorization so thats oneway to find new things. You mention that you think it's easier to install right from your search, and I would agree if that was anywhere near the reality? Through apt, installing comes down to ``[ctrl+t]sudo apt install app name`` after seeing a new package I wanna install, with windows its doing a second search to get the actual site of the thing to find the download link, finding it on the page, clicking it, waiting for the download, clicking the file to run the installer clicking through the installer because it doesnt have a fully automated option, wait for the install to finish and go back to manually delete the installer... that is WAY more work to me than a simple apt install command
Another thing is you bring up reinstalling the same things, I've had to reinstall windows from corrupted drives many more times than linux but at least with linux I can make a simple text file that lists out the commands to reinstall the software with windows and GUIs... at best its a text file with a URL and I have to manually go through hoping that the link didn't die because they changed their url format
On linux I have a thumbndrive with a full second OS and portable utils so theyre already there and working and I can reinstall from it. But past that if you're able to keep a folder through installs keeping a bash script to reinstall your software isnt really more work but it's also not stopping you from having portable apps if that's a usecase you run into.
I do agree that retyping the commands to reinstall the same things over and over is an optimization potential, but that potential is automation through scripting which you just can't really do easilly on windows so Im not sure how that's a negative for linux compared to windows in your mind?
@@TurtleKwitty I don't look at pages with red boxes saying "click here then here then here". That's the point of the GUI, you don't need to tab back and forth because you don't need to be told how to do it. It's self-evident with good UI design. Even if it changes, it might be a bit annoying, but you don't have to "learn" it, you just do it. That's what my main issue with Linux has been, it's like this is an alien concept. There's this expectation to have to "learn" things to do everything.
You can say, "oh, you're just lazy", but windows allows me to be so "lazy". You could say it's lazy to script things, or optimize workflows, or customize things to be quicker. I don't think it's a bad thing to get the same things done in less time.
I don't even like in games when they put up manual-style tutorials where you read page after page. Good game design would allow people to learn by doing. With other software it's not always as easy, but it shouldn't have to come down to reading a manual or wiki for every tiny little thing.
I'm starting to get the idea that people living with Linux often hate GUI so much because they're referring (naturally, perhaps it's to be expected) to Linux GUIs. If it's done well, the options would be named to give a good idea of what they do, and if more info is needed/available, it doesn't hurt to have a little icon indicating there's a tooltip so you don't hover pointlessly, and there are definitely designs where it's just shown without any hovering. It depends on the program what would probably be better.
I find CLI --help often much more cryptic and it can also be short on information too. That's just something that can happen with either.
But yes, there are bad (G)UI's, there has been the occasional GUI program where it was unclear what certain checkboxes were, and I had to go look online. I think that's bad whether it's a GUI or a man/help file, like one that just says you can put -p and barely says anything about it. They're not even always named with full words, it would be very weird to see an option in a GUI just say "e", lol. (Even windows CLI at least uses words, with aliases for short form versions.)
It's much easier to understand what "validate" is than "v". CLI would be more self-explanatory if it didn't rm rdm ltrs and ad morx fr no reson.
I used to write notes to myself in a similar cryptic style, then months or years later look at them just thinking, "What was I even trying to say?" Indecipherable. I learned to stop doing that. It's like writing code with all your variables being 1-2 letters. Why do that to people?
Then having a manual to go look up what each variable is. That's what it feels like. Just write a proper name, maybe a comment (tooltip/description), and it'd save a lot of effort. If that's lazy, I'll accept that badge.
As for package managers, that's why I said "I don't know about existing ones". I'm not sure how convenient the ones already out can be. It was meant more about the design rather than what to do as a user of what's out now.
For finding programs for windows, it's generally downloading it from where you found it, it's just not all in one place. There's a lot of pros and cons and I don't want to argue it because it would be tl;dr and extra boring. It's true it can be a pain to install a lot of different things, which is why I like having an installer actually! That way I can tell it where to install (my other drive), so next time it's just there and I don't have to install it again. (Unless maybe for an update, package managers definitely win for updating a lot of programs in bulk. But sometimes I don't want it to update until I'm ready to verify the new one still works.) Some things break that way, so they have to be reinstalled, which is annoying, but it's not most things I find.
Windows or Linux, I would prefer a system where each program just had its own folder and didn't "install" anything anywhere else on the system (maybe a separate settings folder, but just one, not scattered around). I don't like it when Windows does it either, it's confusing and messy and that's probably part of why people reinstall so much (in either OS).
For the record, I've reinstalled windows about once per 5 years on average (with active daily use and few exceptions). It would be less if they didn't force us off older versions by stopping security updates and causing everyone to discontinue support on their software (or actively disable it from working arbitrarily for no functional reason).
apt-cache search .*-.*
i just have a gui text editor open with files full of commands & templates. they are repetitive tasks that i commonly use (some every day).
then i have a "working" file where i copy templates, write down info i need for that particular template(like timestamps), modify it (file name, url...), then copy to terminal.
some things i can turn to scripts or aliases, but many others are just easier as command templates.
Bro tiling window manager is like a non stop loop for new Linux users for new users Mint with cinnamon is better than arch with i3 :)
Some great tips. Personally I try to fully move to Linux once every few years, and the only issues I had last time was getting the Affinity suite and the Jagex Launcher running on Linux and starting RuneLite and RuneScape 3 from there. The Linux terminal definitly makes using Linux a better experience (I already do this with WSL on Windows anyway). I also sometimes experinece Windows task that can’t be done trough the GUI.
I have tried OpenSuse KDE and Pop_OS and I actually like the default Ubuntu UI quite a lot, but the snaps do make it a bit annoying, so I’m now experimenting with Fedora. I hope I can switch to using Linux soon.
This video is both a good info to beginners but also the reason why Linux will never be "mainstream" on normal desktops 😅 Way too many options, too many paths, a lot of things can go wrong and if they do there's often times no other way around a full reinstall. There's no way for a normal non-tech person to understand or learn this all, and those are usually the ones wanting things to "just work" or install bog standard applications like Office with a few simple clicks.
This. It's not even a "non-tech-person" issue, it's a "non-enthusiast" issue. I have no issue with using the terminal, I just don't want to. I have no difficulty with fixing the problems that crop up, I just don't want to. I'm not unable to eventually find an answer to a question, I just don't want it to take as long as it always seems to.
Install the flatpak version of bottles through the software store app. It doesn't recognize any exe files. Annoying, but see somewhere that the AUR has it and it works. Remove the flatpak bottles and install AUR bottles with yay. It shows the exe files, but nothing that had issues being run through proton on steam seems to run with any fewer issues on bottles.
Screw it, I'll just run a VM for Windows stuff. Just let me move this folder first. Apparently I don't have permission. sudo dolphin. sudo is disabled with dolphin, install this thing instead. Nevermind, I'll just use the terminal and type out two whole filepaths like a barbarian.
It's just so many little things have issues, big or small, on such a regular basis. It's not even an Arch thing. Arch has been great, especially the AUR and wiki, but everything else has just been constant problems.
Went from ubuntu with no knowledge to gentoo, building your own desktop environment is a great experience, def not everyone's cup of tea!!
All roads lead to Gentoo
@@yep596 frrrr
When changing one file, I like the GUI. When making the same change to many files, CLI works better for me.
Been trying out Linux on my laptop, started on Linux Mint and moved to Fedora. I want to switch to it from Windows but keep hitting so many hard blocks that stop me from doing so. I have a bunch of Windows only apps that there are no Linux equivalents for, or if there is they lack specific things, or are only packaged for .deb. Most of them don't play nicely with Wine either. Another issue I've run into is just constant driver issues, be it not being able to open Steam using the dedicated GPU, or incredibly slow network speeds when the same device on Windows and all my other devices hit full speed. I may be techy and enjoy tweaking things to a degree but I want to switch away from Windows to avoid having to do so much of that and for it to just work and use the GUI for everything. Even something simple like HWiNFO or the Windows Task Manager doesn't have a comparable Linux GUI equivalent. All the Linux based ones I've come across also miss out GPU usage, VRAM usage and GPU temp which is now built into the Windows Task Manager.
windows 11 ltsc iot enterprise its pretty neat. it has copilot, but you can unistall it. sadly my games no longer work on linux
Having tried avoiding the terminal, I'll just go ahead and say that you might as well buy a chromebook and use your computer as a web browser machine at that point. Many problems are nearly or completely impossible to do without the terminal.
I switched from windows to Arch Linux with KDE plasma as my desktop environment. My workflow seems more like a hybrid. Most of my management of the system including text editing is done via the terminal. However, I still prefer to find my applications and connect to wifi using the gui.
I missed dwm in the list of tiling window managers, the grand old daddy which so many other tiling window managers are either forked from or are based on. I rarely use a filemanager these days, mostly I simply do filemanagement from the terminal, I simply use aliases for 'ls'. Filemanagers don't do much, basically the same functions as which cd, cp, mv, mount and potentially archiving-tools do. You might as well just do it in the terminal, that is easier.
as someone who's been using Linux for a few years I really have to disagree with you on Windows-like desktop environments. Windows has been the same for decades for a reason. the Windows desktop is incredible and intuitive. i love tiling, i use i3 on my EOS install, but KDE is by far my favorite DE because it takes the right lessons from Windows.
switched from win 2 weeks ago. enjoying exploring it so far.
Slightly off topic, but I also suggest Windows power users or sysadmins to try to do common configuration changes from PowerShell or terminal - some things are a lot quicker than in the GUI, and also you can do them remotely or from the recovery environment where a GUI for it is not available/feasible. Think about configuring Windows Firewall to allow inbound RDP :) And it is also true that there are tasks on Windows where there is no GUI available - e.g. splitting an Windows installation image so that it can be put on a FAT32 installation medium when a machine does not support UEFI boot from NTFS, or including a storage driver to a installed system's recovery enviroment which is not yet present - because you want to plug the disk into another machine with a different storage controller later.
And to get on-topic again, when trying window managers, also try ones that can be entirely controlled by keyboard shortcuts or where everything from default positions to shortcuts can be scripted/customized. When trying X11 window managers, also get familiar with Xnest - a way to run a window manager inside a window of another window manager - and Xpra - a "screen/tmux" like window detach/reattach function for the GUI. The latter is especially useful when working remotely on other Linux machines.
At least twice in the last few months I had to use terminal to finish the update in Linux Mint because the GUI for what ever reason refused to finish it, but only on one of four laptops.
My advice: Don't be afraid of using distros that aren't the hot thing at the time. (I would say arch, endeavourOS, mint are hot rn)
I've started with arch but because I was curious about how things worked and what I could change I broke it after a month.
Then I installed openSuse Tumbleweed and I just LOVE it.
The AUR equivalent (obs) works a bit differently and better in my experience.
But my biggest reason for openSuse are the automatic btrfs snapshots. Everytime you install a package for example the system creates a snapshot.
It takes like one second and you can boot into that snapshot from grub in case you really messed things up.
So at the end of the day my tumbleweed and arch systems behave the exact same way, only that one has snapshots (which I couldn't for the life of me setup on arch btw)
One last thing though: tumbleweed installs a lot more packages be default, but you can actually (de)select every single one in the install or select new ones
Would that revert changes like to a text file I edited after the snapshot?
Whenever I install Linux for a non-user I always install 1 desktop (or more) + 2 or three wm for them to play around. (one in X and some in wayland)
this is super simple and even simpler in a noob distro like Arch and arco, where you can pick many in archinstall or calamares.
We still lack guides on a WM setup. For instance: I kept looking for GUI alternatives for months just because I didn't know that I should install something called policy kit 🤯, like, 1980 or something.
And no need to mention the poor installation experience and lack of similar alternatives to software, however what we have now in the Linux ecosystem is enough for some minority of Windows users.
Linux has come a long way, and for your boomer parents, it is ready at this point - I am considering just wiping my parent's computer prior to Win10's EOL date, as the computer they have is most likely ready at this point to be able to handle Linux. Prolly just gonna put Linux Mint - Debian Edition.
can confirm, my parents ask me the me for the same thing when they need help with the their computer running linux mint as when it was still running windows
Make sure you don't wipe the drive, or at least make sure all of the files are backed up safely. Don't delete photos!
As a boomer myself I say Hey! Boomers built a lot of that technology to begin with. Just kidding.
I'm pretty sure that when Win10 goes down for the count, I'll move my 67 year old brother's machine over to something like Mint Cinnamon, maybe with a Win10 type ricing so he doesn't blow the seat out of his diaper. He'd barely notice as long as Chrome, Facebook, his banking and Thunderbird for e-mail all show up where they were.
Heh, for me it's the reverse, it was my boomer parent that introduced me to Linux, Slackware back in the 90s on over 50 floppies! Thank goodness we don't need to do that anymore
I did this for my mother, set her up on Debian and KDE then installed all other stuff through flatpak. Her system is just naturally tidy and so easy to manage, the only thing is she doesnt understand shes not supposed to run .exes anymore 😂
Installing packages from the terminal works if you know the package. How can you search packages if you're not installing from the Software GUI?
How do fix gnome blurry x11 application (xwayland)?
I've decided to give Linux a shot because of the state of Windows 11. Have only a few issues with Mint so far, and I don't seem to be locked out of solving any of them.
Started on Slackware before version 1.0. Tried Arch, Mandrake, PCLinuxOS, Zorin, FreeBSD and many others. I always go back to MInt.
As when I game, I do things with style, efficiency or ease of use can go out the window ( hahaha ), as long as I get what I want, the way I want.
edit: When I want to show off, I want to do everything from the GUI, but without touching the mouse. That's an old quirck I got from my early windows 95-2000 era.
It took 7 years of tinkering before I learned to love Linux. It's no coincidence that I also spent 7 years resisting the terminal and insisting on doing everything with UI tools.
It took setting up a headless Ubuntu server and forcing myself to do everything over SSH before I learned to stop worrying and love the terminal.
i already switched last week and i am happy
A good recommendation is to try distros in Virtualbox even before switching.........I ran Linux exclusively from 2009 until 2015 when I got back into gaming. This w11 Ai spying is my last nerve, I hopped back into it via Linux Mint XFCE last week. So far so good, and any games that won't work with Linux just don't need to get my money.
every time I try some new GUI or distro I always find myself going back to KDE on fedora. the only thing that I don't use that on is a very old laptop that I use for writing stuff in Vim and copying files (usually pictures) from hard drives before reinstalling windows on someones computer. on tat one I use Ubuntu LTS with I3.
2020, Alex decided to blow the summer trying Pop, Mint, Ubuntu MATE & Endevour ~ That was fun, that's what I'd recommend to anyone, if you can, find a chunk of the year where you don't do anything critical work wise, maybe keep a copy of Windows around on a different drive and just mess with Linux, you'll learn a thing or five :)
1:08 You just reminded me about some of the things I did to Windows XP when I was a kid. I had a Windows XP install that I made look and behave a lot like a emerald and beryl Linux install. Yes a cube for XP, Although it wasn't nearly as good. Was it a stupid idea? Yes, But I had friends that could appreciate that type of stupidity.
Beryl was more popular than compiz was with my friends at the time. They merged pretty soon after I made that abomination.
And now I just remembered smashing my head against a wall trying to get my mouse and keyboard fully supported by editing the xorg config. I did get it working right in the end. I suddenly have a lot more positive feelings towards Wayland.
I use the terminal to update my entire computer because I have a script called "update" in my PATH that runs all the commands I need to update my entire system whether it's pacman AUR or flatpak. I also have it aliased. It's just easier.
OpenSUSE's yast enables an almost full on GUI experience but as a Win10 user you will need Wine or the full Win10 VM to xrdp in it.
never mix gaming and work computer. Gaming is full of spyware. Better to install SteamOS on a different machine and not worry about a thing.
Would get comfortable with the DE you're currently using before trying other DEs since you can have multiple DEs on a single distro
I did this when starting Linux, but it was because I did this in Windows, and MS-DOS, and even Commodore 64/128.
Commodore: shell Geos
MS-DOS (5.x): shell WordPerfect Library, others
Windows 3.x: many shells including: Aporia, Command Post
Windows NT/2k: many shells including: LiteStep, bb4win, bblean, bluebox, dashboard (HP VUE port to windows), xoblite
I also tried different cmd replacements like 4nt/4dos and zsh.
So, moving to Linux was evolution to more control.
oh my god, you made me remember the times I broke my window system... at least 20 times messing up with bblean, because I hated how windows looked and want to put some personality in it. and seeing my history with windows, feels like it really was never meant for me, I always tried to break it in some way and the system didn't let me.
holy moly, I'd totally forgotten my days of messing with customising windows. LiteStep and/or nextStep were my shells for quite some time. Ty for the reminder!
Shifted to hyprland after using kde for nearly 10 months. Let's see how it goes
Carl Sagan summed up Gentoo best: “If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe.”
Kubuntu user here.
I loved the idea of linux for a long time, but I just couldn't force myself to redo everything. Now, that Microsoft made me want to never buy a new Windows laptop and needing to upgrade, I went out, and got a last gen ThinkPad P1 and jumped around on distors... Pop->Ubuntu->Manjaro->Kubuntu and it looks like I'm going to stick with it.
gentoo has a binary distro option now BTW.
Honestly, that just sounds like giving up the benefits of Gentoo and keeping the greater amount of configuration, like a more configuration dependent version of Arch?
@@OhhCrapGuy I like the gentoo package manager.
Could you react to the blog post that made into the hacker news top 10 recently which was talking about Wayland and incompatibilities with digital art software like Krita?
Arch (btw) bro immediately suggests tiling compositors that needs to be configured using a text editor. 🤣 Seriously though, the cool thing about Linux is that you have that option. Give it a shot! If you like it, use it! It's worth your time investment to try things out and see what you like. And the big thing is … you can adopt pieces or ideas from anything you try to make what you do work better for you. That's what Linux is all about!
the good thing about text configuration is that it easy to modify and its not obscured by a registery blob like in windows or in a folder that even highest level of admin cant access.
@@ChrisWijtmans Registry does suck, but I see it as basically no different. It has ups and downs, like you can search it. Really I'd rather have the options in a settings menu, so I can't accidentally enter something unexpected and mess it up. "Time = 30" Seconds? Minutes? ms? hours? Some random arbitrary thing like ticks in a game?
It's more important when it wants a string, and I'm not sure what it's even asking, or how to format it. A dropdown when there's only so many options is nicer.
@@Aeroxima you need a special program to r/w registry. You dont for text config.
"Maybe people will give linux a shot"
Did it, loving it, glad I got the hell out of the windows ecosystem. I've yet to find anything I was able to do in windows, that I'm not able to do in linux.
I want a Linux Mint KDE Plasma 6 edition.
That would absolutely be what I would recommend to people, if it existed. Cinnamon is okay, but Plasma I feel is a whole lot better for people migrating from Windows, its how I migrated years ago.
The first thing I have to do with my new install is get my elgato facecam to work with roll20 and learn OBS
I'd really like to try a tiling window manager, but I've installed two (Sway and i3) on my Linux Mint box, and I can literally do nothing with them. At least on i3 I managed to accidentally open a terminal so I could reboot. Under Sway, I just get a blank desktop where nothing happens at all and I have to hit the power button. Maybe I'm old and dumb. Maybe I just need to read the manual. But I really don't want to read a manual to just to do ANYTHING. So I guess I'll just stick with easy-to-use Cinnamon.
Maybe you should try awesome. I believe it's the most beginner friendly TWM since it comes already with bar, panels and more pre configured stuff.
Graphical Terminal application like btop are cool
I'm a user of windows yet I try to use foss options for any programs I use due to so many garbage structures for access
The good thing with Linux is that Linux is privacy free and doesn’t have bloated useless features unlike Microbloat. I hope Linux golden will reach the dominant left by Microbloat demise.
been a windows user for years, switched to ubuntu for 6 months then to manjaro for 2 days then to arch for last 1 year. arch killed my distro hopping
Is there any Linux Distro which does not require troubleshooting? I just want to install it and use. I tried Ubuntu and Linux Mint so far and both have problems. like audio not working well.. wifi not working well etc
I doubt if there is any OS that doesn't require troubleshooting (I trouble shoot Windows for my friends over the phone -- not without stress), but I have found Mint to be the easiest for me. There's a different version of Mint called Linux Mint LMDE, which is not based on Ubuntu, which might get round your problems. Or if you have a very new computer, it's possible that you need the latest and greatest to work with your hardware, so you could try Linux Mint Edge. It might well be that another distro would be better for you, but I haven't found anything that is easier to get going and keep going than Mint.
It's also the case that, with normal luck, getting stuff going properly is a one time thing. Try entering a search with the name of your hardware, your distro, and a description of the problem, and see what Duck Duck Go or Google brings you.
I have switched to LMDE (Mint Debian Edition). I now spend more time having to troubleshoot Windows than LMDE. The last update M$ forced on me broke everything. Now 90% of my time is in LMDE.
@@lesh4357 That gets exactly what I'd like to say to someone in Shabbir-A's position. With Linux, you may have stuff to do to get something working, but these days I feel I have to fight AGAINST what Windows is trying to force on me.
This advice is for people who already have tried a distro or 2. Asking a new user to do this stuff just increases the likelihood that they switch back
he specifically said that's who the video is for. Are you deaf?
I've dabbled with linux in the past, mostly Ubuntu but is was just not at the right place for me at the time.
When I finally bit the bullet around 5-6 years back, I went with Fedora and Cinnamon.
It went quite well until one day (1-2 years in) when it only allowed Software Rendering in Cinnamon.
I couldn't fix it no matter what I tried and went for Ubuntu.
I tried Gnome, but it just isn't for me (if you like it, that's all right).
So I finally settled on KDE, which is good for me.
There are some apps that I like better from the Gnome world (such as Files and calculator - don't like Kcalc) but that's another matter entirely.
Pleas link the video to immutable distros.
Gentoo IME has the best support. Which is a good thing, because you'll need it. 😜
Anyone know any good resources for learning the terminal?
There's the channel @LearnLinuxTV , Jay has a pretty good set of playlists for Linux tutorials aimed at beginners
I keep saying this, once driver 555 is released I'm just not going to use windows anymore. I can do everything I need either with linux, my macbook, or running a windows VM on my macbook.
I will happily give up glazeWM and using a tiling window manager just to not have to deal with windows anymore.
VMs are very good these days and can you can use yuor GPU almost at native speeds. IF you really need to use windows for something.
Well, I switched to Linux since Microsoft announce recall 😂 this video fits me, but I was already using windows as if it was Linux I was using the terminal a lot, the real problem with me now is the application I'm left without any real good video editor davinci is not working good on Linux at all I tried every way even tried distrobox and well gimp is not bad, but it's not photoshop! And Inkscape is awesome, I can live with it!