Chris, I use a similar technique: - I use the Wyze plug, which is the same price. Similar but has two independently controlled outlets. - I try to normally charge my battery to 80% to increase the lifespan (That's all I need for a normal day). - I created schedules for 1, 2, and 3 hours then I activate one each day based on my estimated need. - They each start in the early hours and finish at 7 AM. This is the same technique smart charging in phones use. This prevents over-charging as well as allowing the battery to spend more time at half charge, which is healthier. This may be a little over the top but ebike batteries cost more than phone batteries. I want to keep it as long as possible.
I do lol. I charge to 80% using a simple timer on my phone. For example, if I'm at 49V and I want to be at 52V, I just charge for 1 hour. ALSO I have found it very important to always plug in to the battery first and then the wall socket, and unplug the wall socket first and then the battery. The reason is sparking. There are visible marks on my charger prongs from the sparks when plugging in/ unplugging. You don't want that to happen on the end that connects to your battery for obvious reasons.
Chris another eye opener. I knew the chargers got pretty warm but like many others I “assumed “ that the protection was built in by the manufacturers themselves, but, apparently not. Thanks for the heads up.
Wow, I had no idea this type of device existed. Solves my problem of wanting to charge my bike in the shed at night. Will be easy to just set for 6 hours and go to bed. Nice! Thanks for the link. Arrives tomorrow!
As a retired Fire Captain, no way I would count on WiFi to be a safe way to handle those chargers, also you have a fire and we determined it was from a ebikes charger it goes in my report and to fire Marshal office, that's where your insurance company gets the report to fullfil your claim when you have a fire from not following directions from the manufacturer. If it's plugged in " it's plugged in" without a redundant backup only way to be safe is UNPLUG IT . Also if your keeping your charger in garage attached to house, you should use a heat detector because the garage smoke detector will be going off from many things, dust , grill smoke, etc basically you will get tired of waking up and take the battery out. Heat detectors in places like attic, garage, under house . Etc
I'm also adding a smoke detector above the battery that controls the power to the charger. Smoke triggers the alarm and turns off the charger. The amount of energy stored in a typical ebike battery is 48v x 15AH = 720 WH. That's 720 watts for one hour. I never charge when I'm not home. Lithium ion batteries can be very dangerous.
Just a tip I would not plug a extension card into that that's why they make a Dubble the watts pulling 2 maxout the watts of a single outlet they have a max load you can put on it hope I said that right 😅
Great idea. I will definitely get one of those. Thanks. On a separate topic, I hope lectric develops a 12v charger so you can charge the battery while taking your bike somewhere or using a battery bank
Great video. I'd love to see a device, that would allow us to monitor battery charging in real time, with alerts, when the charger exceeds, a certain temperature, along with remote shut off capabilities.
Even better, the Genie could come in handy for all those other big batteries-power tools, yard tools, snow blowers, etc.-that we routinely charge. Thanks for the tip!
It’s not so much the charger burning your house down, but the lithium ion battery, which burns at 3,236 degrees F (past asbestos melting point). No fire extinguishers work. The battery had to be in a Carbon X bag (the only material which has a higher melting/burning point than LI battery torches).
Hello Chris, I just ordered on Amazon the duel one as it was $19.99 where the single was $17.99 and you can control each individual outlet with the app. I don’t need two at this time but for $2 I felt it was a no brainer. I also ordered the Park spoke tool. Thanks for your cool channel it’s very appreciated. 09/10/2022
Also it would be good to know to how long to set the timer for, let’s say if we have approximately 30% off battery remaining vs. 70%. 3 hrs. 6hrs. Etc. I don’t know if there’s a chart out there with that type of info. Thanks again
Excellent video! I came across your videos today and already watched a handful. I like the way you think outside the box. Very creative and thorough explanations! Oh and I did subscribe to your channel!! Thank you for the great videos!
Hi from Canada! I like your video! I now own a Lectric ebike 2.0 and with your help solve the lower gear problem. Oh the only thing in your video the camera does not point at The right angles to much high or low! Thanks for you help.
Hi Jill, you don't need to unless your bikes need to be stored in extreme hot or cold temps. If that's the case, then I'd bring them inside. It's best to store your battery around half full when not in use, but they can stay in your bikes. 👍
@@PedalWithPower Thank you so very much! Enjoy and safe riding! My husband and I purchased our RadExpand 5 bikes about a month ago! We love them and I appreciate your videos! 🙏💜🥰👍🏻👍🏻
Since I first got my bike, I have used a timer set to allow five or six hours of power. So I might charge overnight and unplug the following day. Have never noticed my charger getting very hot.
If you're setting a timer than they shouldn't. If you only charge overnight and unplug every morning you're also probably fine. This is for folks that may not be doing either. It's easy to just plug in your bike and not ride for a few days or even a week or more and forget that it's still plugged in. This is just a suggestion for those that may want it.
My Engwe Pro 2.0 burnt my hand when I tried to pick it up . Will it work for that? Shouldn’t they put a fan in those like they do even the smaller bikes? Thanks.
Hi Edward, good question. No you don't have to be near it. It links to your wifi and once you've set the timer, you don't even need to keep the app open on your phone. It will turn itself off at the time you set.
Must be plugged directly into wall outlet. No power strip or extension cord. WiFi signal must be very strong. Returned to Amazon. Opted for TP-Link smart plug with Alexa
The charger shouldn't draw power from your battery. It's still best to unplug your battery from the charger when you can. This just helps it so that your charger is not still drawing power from the electrical socket and heating up.
@@PedalWithPower Yeah that's a good point made. These basic battery chargers will all be smart enough to charge your battery properly and with with no over charging (That's a standard in any charger that passes regulation), But they tend to continue to draw power from the socket after it's job is done and that's why they stay heated.
My first battery 30 amp hour 48 volt caught on fire burnt the BMS ended up getting a refund keeping the battery removed the BMS worked fine for 6 years so far.
Do you unplug your charger from the wall after charging your ebike, everytime? Let me know! (I know I don't)
Chris, I use a similar technique:
- I use the Wyze plug, which is the same price. Similar but has two independently controlled outlets.
- I try to normally charge my battery to 80% to increase the lifespan (That's all I need for a normal day).
- I created schedules for 1, 2, and 3 hours then I activate one each day based on my estimated need.
- They each start in the early hours and finish at 7 AM. This is the same technique smart charging in phones use.
This prevents over-charging as well as allowing the battery to spend more time at half charge, which is healthier. This may be a little over the top but ebike batteries cost more than phone batteries. I want to keep it as long as possible.
@@Goodasgrits That's impressive! Good job. You're taking the extra step and it will save you in the long run.
I do lol. I charge to 80% using a simple timer on my phone. For example, if I'm at 49V and I want to be at 52V, I just charge for 1 hour.
ALSO I have found it very important to always plug in to the battery first and then the wall socket, and unplug the wall socket first and then the battery. The reason is sparking. There are visible marks on my charger prongs from the sparks when plugging in/ unplugging. You don't want that to happen on the end that connects to your battery for obvious reasons.
Chris another eye opener. I knew the chargers got pretty warm but like many others I “assumed “ that the protection was built in by the manufacturers themselves, but, apparently not. Thanks for the heads up.
Wow, I had no idea this type of device existed. Solves my problem of wanting to charge my bike in the shed at night. Will be easy to just set for 6 hours and go to bed. Nice! Thanks for the link. Arrives tomorrow!
Glad you found it helpful Jeanne! It's super easy to use, just set the timer and you're all good 👍
As a retired Fire Captain, no way I would count on WiFi to be a safe way to handle those chargers, also you have a fire and we determined it was from a ebikes charger it goes in my report and to fire Marshal office, that's where your insurance company gets the report to fullfil your claim when you have a fire from not following directions from the manufacturer.
If it's plugged in " it's plugged in" without a redundant backup only way to be safe is UNPLUG IT . Also if your keeping your charger in garage attached to house, you should use a heat detector because the garage smoke detector will be going off from many things, dust , grill smoke, etc basically you will get tired of waking up and take the battery out. Heat detectors in places like attic, garage, under house . Etc
I'm also adding a smoke detector above the battery that controls the power to the charger. Smoke triggers the alarm and turns off the charger. The amount of energy stored in a typical ebike battery is 48v x 15AH = 720 WH. That's 720 watts for one hour. I never charge when I'm not home. Lithium ion batteries can be very dangerous.
Another in a long line of exceptional videos and information!
Thanks Chris for all your time and attention to detail!
Thanks Jerry, I always appreciate the feedback 👍
Just a tip I would not plug a extension card into that that's why they make a Dubble the watts pulling 2 maxout the watts of a single outlet they have a max load you can put on it hope I said that right 😅
Great idea. I will definitely get one of those. Thanks. On a separate topic, I hope lectric develops a 12v charger so you can charge the battery while taking your bike somewhere or using a battery bank
Yeah, it's very easy to use. As far as charging on the go you might check out the Jackery chargers -- www.jackery.com/
Thanks for the info on this great device. I have a tendency to forget to unplug the charger in time and this will be a great help and increase safety.
No problem 👍 Me too, I'm bad at staying on top of it and this is super easy, just set the timer and you're all good!
That’s why I ordered mine but got the two outlet for $2 more
Great video. I'd love to see a device, that would allow us to monitor battery charging in real time, with alerts, when the charger exceeds, a certain temperature, along with remote shut off capabilities.
Even better, the Genie could come in handy for all those other big batteries-power tools, yard tools, snow blowers, etc.-that we routinely charge. Thanks for the tip!
Yeah, I thought it was a cool idea, it's inexpensive and easy to use.
Great tip and video as usual. I just ordered the double version for both our bikes.
It’s not so much the charger burning your house down, but the lithium ion battery, which burns at 3,236 degrees F (past asbestos melting point). No fire extinguishers work. The battery had to be in a Carbon X bag (the only material which has a higher melting/burning point than LI battery torches).
Great idea, I’m getting one for my Drone charger.
Hi, thank You my friend. I just ordered one. I have been worried about that. I love my 2.0 I don't trust chargers at all.
Hello Chris, I just ordered on Amazon the duel one as it was $19.99 where the single was $17.99 and you can control each individual outlet with the app. I don’t need two at this time but for $2 I felt it was a no brainer. I also ordered the Park spoke tool. Thanks for your cool channel it’s very appreciated. 09/10/2022
Also it would be good to know to how long to set the timer for, let’s say if we have approximately 30% off battery remaining vs. 70%. 3 hrs. 6hrs. Etc. I don’t know if there’s a chart out there with that type of info. Thanks again
Excellent video! I came across your videos today and already watched a handful. I like the way you think outside the box. Very creative and thorough explanations! Oh and I did subscribe to your channel!! Thank you for the great videos!
Thanks Saul! Very much appreciated. Your feedback is always good to hear. 👍
Simpler solution.. A fan.
I would be more inclined to buy a safe charger with a cooling fan instead lol
Can I ask what are you using?
Hi from Canada! I like your video! I now own a Lectric ebike 2.0 and with your help solve the lower gear problem.
Oh the only thing in your video the camera does not point at
The right angles to much high or low!
Thanks for you help.
Thanks, for the feedback. I'm still trying to figure out how to work my video equipment.😊
Should we take our batteries off our bikes when they are not in use? Thank you so much! 💕🙏🥰
Hi Jill, you don't need to unless your bikes need to be stored in extreme hot or cold temps. If that's the case, then I'd bring them inside.
It's best to store your battery around half full when not in use, but they can stay in your bikes. 👍
@@PedalWithPower Thank you so very much! Enjoy and safe riding! My husband and I purchased our RadExpand 5 bikes about a month ago! We love them and I appreciate your videos! 🙏💜🥰👍🏻👍🏻
I like your shirt. Mine says, "Look busy...Vaders coming"
Since I first got my bike, I have used a timer set to allow five or six hours of power. So I might charge overnight and unplug the following day. Have never noticed my charger getting very hot.
If you're setting a timer than they shouldn't. If you only charge overnight and unplug every morning you're also probably fine.
This is for folks that may not be doing either. It's easy to just plug in your bike and not ride for a few days or even a week or more and forget that it's still plugged in.
This is just a suggestion for those that may want it.
Get the chargers that turn off automatically when the battery is fully charged.
My Engwe Pro 2.0 burnt my hand when I tried to pick it up . Will it work for that? Shouldn’t they put a fan in those like they do even the smaller bikes? Thanks.
I have a Lectric xp 3.0 and Wow it’s still super hot
I put a small computer fan that blows on the charger brick pointed at the hottest spot of the charging brick, its almost room temp now.
Also a cooling fan on the charger might help. ❤
It is actually a good idea to leave your bike battery plugged in after it's done charging for about an hour every once in awhile to balance the cells
I just ordered the lectric XP 2.0 with the Long-Range Battery: • 14 Ah • 672 Wh. It says on the Amazon website that the unit is only good for 10 amps?
I picked up my wifi outlet from Costco 14$ awesome idea.
That's awesome, I really like mine!
Tried doing this with a wifi plug. Don't think it was rated to do it since it would turn off
Nice to know, since mine has been plugged in for six months...
Love your videos. Great information
Good to hear Richard, thank you!
Wouldn't it be same to say if we used a timed adapter?
Yep, this is just a fancy timed adapter. What I like is that you can also operate it anywhere within your wifi signal.
Perry
Very helpful thank you
I'm considering zip-tying a CPU cooler to my wife's Aventon Adventure because that brick gets crazy hot.
Interesting idea! Let me know if it helps
I put my charger over an ac vent or fan to keep it cool while charging.
Does your phone always have to be near by? What happens if you go to the grocery store and take your phone along?
Hi Edward, good question. No you don't have to be near it. It links to your wifi and once you've set the timer, you don't even need to keep the app open on your phone. It will turn itself off at the time you set.
@@PedalWithPower Thank you and thanks for the quick reply.
I have a VIVI E Bike my charger heats up and gets warm battery 🔋 is cold
Fantastic. Thank you
Must be plugged directly into wall outlet. No power strip or extension cord. WiFi signal must be very strong. Returned to Amazon. Opted for TP-Link smart plug with Alexa
If the charger is plugged into your bike then won't your bike battery put current into the charger when you shut off the Genie?
The charger shouldn't draw power from your battery. It's still best to unplug your battery from the charger when you can. This just helps it so that your charger is not still drawing power from the electrical socket and heating up.
@@PedalWithPower Yeah that's a good point made. These basic battery chargers will all be smart enough to charge your battery properly and with with no over charging (That's a standard in any charger that passes regulation), But they tend to continue to draw power from the socket after it's job is done and that's why they stay heated.
Genius! no pun intended lol... Thank you...
Battery charger has a red light and green light when charged
There at chargers that will turn themselves off after the battery is fully charged.
Some, my Bosch charger turns off. The Lectric and Rad Power charges do not. This is just an easy way to set a timer for the power to everything.
My first battery 30 amp hour 48 volt caught on fire burnt the BMS ended up getting a refund keeping the battery removed the BMS worked fine for 6 years so far.
Good tip! Battery fire are a real thing. What I like about this timer is that it turns the chargers and everything off.
rocking an s7 edge bro get outta here. also they make smart extenison plug outlets.
You are daisy chaining unnecessarily and this will void your insurance if there is a fire