The Horn of Africa: Its strategic importance for Europe, the Gulf States and beyond

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  • In this seminar, Alexander Rondos will address the challenges facing the region and the Horn’s strategic importance Europe, the Gulf states and other actors. A key question is how these challenges can be converted into a joint effort that will allow for the integration of the Horn of Africa into a platform of security and economic cooperation?
    The diversity of geography, history, population, politics, and culture has made the Horn of Africa prone to conflict within its societies and between its countries. And it is those differences that have allowed outsiders to play proxy politics with the region.
    The core of this region, comprising the countries of Djibouti, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Sudan, South Sudan, and Somalia-with Kenya and Uganda very closely associated-has attracted once again in its history the attention of greater powers.
    Several issues are affecting the Horn of Africa today: Terrorism, realignment of loyalties because of confrontation with the Muslim world, the security of trade through the Red Sea and the global migration crisis, to mention some. In geopolitical terms, the Horn is the fragile neighborhood of Europe’s very fractured southern neighborhood.
    Programme 14:00-15:30:
    Welcome by Jon Harald Sande Lie, Senior Research Fellow, NUPI
    Introduction of Alex Rondos by Jens-Petter Kjemperud, Ministry of Foreign Affairs
    Presentation by Alex Rondos
    Comments, NUPI
    Q & A
    Chair: Jon Harald Sande Lie, Senior Research Fellow, NUPI
    More information and sign-up:
    www.nupi.no/en/Events/2016/The...

ความคิดเห็น • 177

  • @cabdisamadmahdicabdiraxman8623
    @cabdisamadmahdicabdiraxman8623 7 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Hey European leave us alone always you interfere our internal issues Somalia will come back soon our new generation were well educated in best European universities and America so we are so strong mentally and 70% our population is under 40 you will see soon the change

  • @JAGUARR1
    @JAGUARR1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Man, what about the importance of our natural resources to us?. Our youth, women, elders and almost our whole community is suffering. We can benefit from our own country's priceless natural resource. Somalia will always be Somalia. Wealth is not what you have after all but wealth is who you are. Somalia is my beloved country which is The land of Freedom, wealth, apportunities and an ancient priceless history. God bless Africa and the rest of our planet....Asalam calaykum.

    • @aishaqamar1989
      @aishaqamar1989 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Amiiìiiin

    • @JAGUARR1
      @JAGUARR1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @潘poon All.

    • @ghst4487
      @ghst4487 ปีที่แล้ว

      @poon4473 everyone

    • @Muhammad-sx7wr
      @Muhammad-sx7wr ปีที่แล้ว

      Inay ku danaynayaan miyaad mooday barito hadaad dhimatid inay dhahaan maxaa dadkaa ku dhacay bay hoos ka dhowlacadaynayaan inaad oga dhimatay maalkaaga si ay ayaga u dhaxlaan.

    • @Bell_plejdo568p
      @Bell_plejdo568p 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What did he say about natural resources? Also wdym "Our youth, women, elders and almost our whole community is suffering."

  • @mohosman4089
    @mohosman4089 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Wow! Without the knowledge of this lecture ever existed , I have just commented not to long ago exactly what this gentleman is talking about. Specially Somalia.There are Somali Nation, Amhara Nation, Oromo Nation, Tigray Nation, Tigranya Nation and many others in these region. We all know where one nation's border end and other begins for thousands of years. With all respect Sir, we don't need the creation of another artificial nation call United East Africa which wouldn't serve the interest of our people but the interest of foreign agenda.One such creation has already gave us enough problem.

    • @Dabayl
      @Dabayl 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you know United East Africa will not serve the interest of the people?

    • @barawaupdate
      @barawaupdate 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      As a Somali I like the sound of "United East AfriKa" at the end of the day all Horn of Afrika are Cushit meaning the same people their share same culture. Everybody controls their own borders and increase the power of Horn Afrika and security, military and Economic gross. If we as a East Afrika come together honestly and work out our problems as a unity you can already see the vision of the Horn.

    • @meznehemia
      @meznehemia ปีที่แล้ว

      @@barawaupdate With the coming generation UEA is all but guaranteed. I'm 50 with decades long friends from Somalia, Kenya, Amhara, Tigray, Eritrea, Harar and Oromia. FWIW we may argue on methods but are in 100% agreement on UEA concept.

    • @haypfdj1st
      @haypfdj1st ปีที่แล้ว

      United we are strong divided we will disappear with the wind. Think about one sing arrow easily breakable but when ten arrows comes together stable not easily breakable. What we need is an institution that serves every nation equally without marginalizing some and accordingly dispersing the wealth equally. When we are divided it is easy for the opportunists to widen our differences. United doesn’t mean losing your Somali identity or Eritrean identity it is integrating nations economically.

  • @alansih1
    @alansih1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very wise expert and the presentation is profoundly informative. Thanks NUPI for the great efforts.

    • @yusufmagan9057
      @yusufmagan9057 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The wise man's wisdom formulated by the expertise!
      He spoke reality and an existing issues which it needs to solve and to discuss about the geo- economical and geo-political what's the interest of world community in the horn of Africa? And how can we solve the matters of border problem in that region?
      Thanks

  • @luulcisman8783
    @luulcisman8783 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The Golden Horn SOMALIA!!!

  • @almazmengztab320
    @almazmengztab320 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    You folk are our problem! !
    live us along!

  • @ahmedjama1040
    @ahmedjama1040 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a minority Somali-American I would love to state that you do not speak for the majority of us.. Don’t look at the subject , look at the principle in this situation. We all want a Greater Somalia who not just intercedes and trades with our neighbors but also provides jobs in the region (did you forget we have the longest coastal line). With that being said we have to think Pan-African in order to move forward for the generations to come. I’ve been to Somaliland and there is a war for information in the city of Hargeisa, the local government in the Waqooyi state not just controls everything that the citizens of watch or listen to on the internet but they’ve ruined the future of the youth by not providing them with jobs they can support themselves and their families with. This pushes the majority in the country (the youth) to be divided into two groups , the ones migrating through the Sahara dying to get to Europe, and the ones still in their homeland that follow the steps of their forefathers who do nothing but chew Khat and lose hope in life and wait for a member of the diaspora to support them. I say open up the private sector, and have businesses invest in the youth , provide the youth with the finer things in life ( in the third world , that’s anything we take for granted here in the first world) and only then will money circulate in the communities and make the citizens happier. Give the people HOPE!!

    • @Bell_plejdo568p
      @Bell_plejdo568p 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Firs thease euopeans don't want to help they have there own agenda, also I haven't watch this video what did he say?, but yes we all want Greater Somalia

  • @hornofafricahornofafrica2647
    @hornofafricahornofafrica2647 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    this is our land and we have the right to do wat ever we want not u u have to ask a if u want something not juss come with militaries base

  • @Aklilusas12
    @Aklilusas12 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A hygiene governance and concrete economic and security cooperation among African nations, are the only ways that could and can save Africa. Historical romanticism of the 1960s is not enough! I heartily thanks to the press!! Thanks to all those intellectuals who waste their time to debate for Africa....the Nature Endowed continent.

  • @teddymeshesha9592
    @teddymeshesha9592 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    True and correct view.

  • @baramacalin4444
    @baramacalin4444 7 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    leave us alone

    • @naciimhassan2755
      @naciimhassan2755 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whe are choosen People u will never win us!

    • @maxameddeeq4037
      @maxameddeeq4037 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@naciimhassan2755 what do u mean!

    • @naciimhassan2755
      @naciimhassan2755 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maxameddeeq4037 MASHALLAAH

    • @maxameddeeq4037
      @maxameddeeq4037 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@naciimhassan2755 insha Allah ✌😅

    • @naciimhassan2755
      @naciimhassan2755 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@maxameddeeq4037 hooyada u sheeg

  • @leban9958
    @leban9958 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very wise man

  • @Dabayl
    @Dabayl 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very good lecture and the best that i come across on TH-cam channel

  • @FarahAbdul
    @FarahAbdul 7 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    We Somalis are demanding our lands back from Ethiopia and kenya therefore there will never be peace between us and these two Nations guaranteed, make no mistake for the past 500 years Europe has been the problem in East Africa starting from the Portuguese to the British to the Italians to the French and know NATO.

    • @mohammedibrahim3790
      @mohammedibrahim3790 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I Love You Spirit...#ShantaSomali Wa muqadaas.

    • @ogadenbarawajecliya9128
      @ogadenbarawajecliya9128 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      xaaji Abdulqadir with that flag u are demanding lands from who ? Ogaden u are a somalinder so u have no problem ethiopia as u call them walalaheena

    • @benny34303
      @benny34303 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fuck u ok?

    • @ogadenbarawajecliya9128
      @ogadenbarawajecliya9128 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Benny word my home is ogaden somalia not ethiopia u will never get our land till last somali infant is alive

    • @lacecocoa6272
      @lacecocoa6272 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      xaaji Abdulqadir true

  • @Mario01243
    @Mario01243 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Dear white man all am hearing is how can we get them how we going to get them, let me tell you secret about Somali people we’ll never forget what you did and is still doing in our country, we’re not going to let you to strip us off our natural resources, we’ll never submit to the pyramid sign

  • @lacecocoa6272
    @lacecocoa6272 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    SMH African unite and fight against European colonization

  • @mahamedahmed7805
    @mahamedahmed7805 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wake up Africkan people

  • @AhmedMohamed-tv6kr
    @AhmedMohamed-tv6kr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    New sleeping bills for Africa by Europeans. Classic! Isn't it?

  • @davidcooper177
    @davidcooper177 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    THANK YOU SIR FOR caring about famined People of Ethiopia. Ethiopia and Eritrea were ruled by the AMHARA ETHNIC GROUP who are cruel, GENOCIDAL, and DICTATORIAL who have no brain left in how to build a country where peace and prosperity is available. Since TPLF AND EPLF, who are from the TIGRE ethnic group who got hold of both countries, a lot of economic and human development has taking place.

  • @yayaydebnatey9252
    @yayaydebnatey9252 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Who is this man

  • @manontopdonn
    @manontopdonn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice video, good speaker, can see he actually cares about correcting historic mistakes in Africa. We need more whites like him.

  • @surafeladmasu9421
    @surafeladmasu9421 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys live alen auer continent perhaps Ethiopia

  • @baskilyare
    @baskilyare 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Africa divisions makes the Europeans super nations

  • @Nasarry
    @Nasarry 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Somali ha noolaato!

  • @sirdoon1
    @sirdoon1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    somaliland is main point in horn africa and barbera strategic red seas and HOA

    • @Mahad921
      @Mahad921 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      True but it is not a country and it is still controlled by xamar

    • @Bell_plejdo568p
      @Bell_plejdo568p 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      exactly@@Mahad921

  • @frontendprodesigner4299
    @frontendprodesigner4299 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what happen to horn of africa is divide and rule

  • @Atifra1532
    @Atifra1532 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    in ethiopia tplf paying money to sudan and sudan army killing ethiopian poor farmer in side our border we ethiopian trying to build democratic leader ship and 1 big low

  • @Madajiye
    @Madajiye 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hmm keep try to know more grandpa

  • @newshot3191
    @newshot3191 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    no Ethiopian don't own u shit. Somalia didn't exist before the creation of current Ethiopia. Somalis live in Ethiopia besides many other ethnicities. We have Nilotic people who are native to Sudan, s.sudan, Kenya as well; we got Tigre who is also native to Eritrea, we got afar who are also native to Djibouti; we got Oromos who are native to Kenya... This is true for almost all countries in Africa (including Somalia obviously). so, don't be ignorant. ethnicity doesn't define a country. also what about Somaliland that is more prosperous and stable than Somalia which is an autonomous state on its own yet they are all Somalis.

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry min is taf canina mi is not is tar no

  • @kifleasmalish6637
    @kifleasmalish6637 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    If the ero cantrice thenks in right wey there may be granted important for the eropa end the world

  • @sdprz7893
    @sdprz7893 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm disappointed by this comment section.

    • @sdprz7893
      @sdprz7893 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kickrocks71 Big difference between suspicion and delusion. We're not going to improve Somalia without practical policy.

  • @leban9958
    @leban9958 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let somalia for security empowerment then busines will be flourishing sucess

  • @mahadjama1481
    @mahadjama1481 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Please dividing Somalia. Somaliland is not a country its a region of Somalia.

    • @baaqmedia7202
      @baaqmedia7202 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fuck you somaliland is independent state

  • @hodanadan6595
    @hodanadan6595 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Horn afric belongs somali not other

    • @henoktv1595
      @henoktv1595 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hodan Adan you are just mad . Can you answer how?

    • @henoktv1595
      @henoktv1595 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hodan Adan you mean Saudi arabia

    • @user-oo6vr1ky5f
      @user-oo6vr1ky5f 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@henoktv1595 it’s not Saudis idiot

  • @abdifattahroble9472
    @abdifattahroble9472 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mi is not qanis shis inoy mani

  • @flaria4011
    @flaria4011 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    too long

  • @alemayehuwakjira7337
    @alemayehuwakjira7337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are you really working to decolonize??????????????

  • @mohammadabaire1231
    @mohammadabaire1231 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am addressing the two respected guests. Please as a professional guest and having served in top government position treat the conflict that is taking place in Ethiopia honestly and frankly.
    As every body knows the war started after TPL officials which are administering Tigray Regional Government attacked the 31st Northern Army Brigade at mid night by killing solders and looting ammunition. Afterwards the central government army interred Tgray Region to maintain security and arrest the Juntas in charge of the massacre.
    Now the Western and American Governments are supporting the Junta by imposing economic embargo on Ethiopia and also forcing our Government to negotiate with the junta who destroyed hospitals, schools, factories, hotels, farms, homes, shops, telecommunications and electricity facilities, killed cattle and ships. Also elderly and yiung women were raped. When such destruction happened you kept quite which implies you are supporting the action taken by the Junta. So you seem to be indirectly supporting such action.

  • @hornofafricahornofafrica2647
    @hornofafricahornofafrica2647 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    it's a strategic but u won't get shit dude

  • @trollgod4911
    @trollgod4911 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lol wtf is this?

  • @leban9958
    @leban9958 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its Africas not your busines

  • @fatimanour9793
    @fatimanour9793 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The horn of africa is somalia only and we need ahelp anf u are well came to somalia especially puntland wich is red see.

    • @bettysolomon8147
      @bettysolomon8147 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      But do u know where land of punt is pls if u know can u tell me

    • @Bee-it8sx
      @Bee-it8sx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Betty Solomon because there’s a region in Somalia called Puntland

    • @yordanosfirew71
      @yordanosfirew71 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Bee-it8sx bullshit man....

  • @trollgod4911
    @trollgod4911 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Angry tribalist Somalis here insulting Ethiopian and Kenya

    • @idaacada2459
      @idaacada2459 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Said the Bantu

    • @Baasta
      @Baasta 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Troll God we not insulting anyone dude and u can’t judge us all like that.
      By da way there Somali Ethiopian and Somali Kenyans 😭😭 Somalia has connection with these two countries even if we don’t agree with their political view.

    • @abdirahmanmohamed7169
      @abdirahmanmohamed7169 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Baasta why are you using that emoji fuck kenya and ethopia we bad boys killers and nato will be conqured god willing

    • @safiamah
      @safiamah ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Baasta what is somali ethiopian and somali kenyan?

  • @kingmeow4226
    @kingmeow4226 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The future president of somalia it will be somali Christian 2069

    • @Mahad921
      @Mahad921 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In your dreams more likely Muslims will be ruling Ethiopia

    • @henoktv1595
      @henoktv1595 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mahad921 who dr Abby is Protestant but it doesn’t matter don’t see the horizontal just follow the vertical one

    • @abdirahmanmohamed7169
      @abdirahmanmohamed7169 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@henoktv1595 you really cant stop can you seens your cushitic we will not kill all of you but revert you if god wills

  • @MyNadje
    @MyNadje ปีที่แล้ว

    Welcome to the world of the new western colonialism

    • @Bell_plejdo568p
      @Bell_plejdo568p 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What exactly did he say?

  • @gerrymari3873
    @gerrymari3873 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    somalia must united with ethiopia based ancient history. the war of Ezana king in 3rd century brought to division

    • @abdiqafarabdullahi9313
      @abdiqafarabdullahi9313 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Somalia( somali land) never was part of Ethiopia 🇪🇹 and they don’t need to be united. Moreover, amhari and tigre immigrated to our land in the 6ths. What we need to do is to live peace and respect with each other. So you don’t know what’s happened there.

    • @ahmedeeqnur4047
      @ahmedeeqnur4047 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gerry Mari
      It will never happen we were never United never will be but we can have peace if only you give us our land back,

    • @jamayasiin2951
      @jamayasiin2951 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      We have more than 7 thousand years of history so someone have that reach history can’t give away to someone else. We have had relations with old world like China ,Egyptians of pharaoh and India.

    • @barawaupdate
      @barawaupdate 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      shishisennin
      True before Somalis ware brainwash by the Arabs

    • @henoktv1595
      @henoktv1595 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why these Somalis crying in every comment. If you post love story they start crying

  • @yosiyosef6508
    @yosiyosef6508 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tigray VS 🇪🇷🇸🇴🇦🇪🇪🇹

  • @selomunhagos2142
    @selomunhagos2142 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    African countries are very fragile. Because of European colonialism, so they have to come back how was the history before colonialism .
    I am from Ethiopia but the map of Ethiopia is not the same hat used to be .
    I believe on Aksumait kingdom which was Eritrea and some part of Ethiopia . We donot need to lost that kingdom and our people and neighbors can live with peace and stability .

    • @Bountylicious
      @Bountylicious 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      selomun hagos no the map of Ethiopia is definitely not the same. As Eastern Ethiopia is part of Somalia & Eritrea is part of Ethiopia but they wanted to separate after your Ethiopian government raged war & have been killing then for decades.

    • @A.D.540
      @A.D.540 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Bountylicious true also it's not easy it's south ogadon is in South not east.

    • @dankenedy760
      @dankenedy760 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @selomun hagos you are arrogant agame leave Eritrea alone.

    • @tesfaldetyitbarek7708
      @tesfaldetyitbarek7708 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just forget about Eritrea . We don't want you. Period!

    • @eriblood803
      @eriblood803 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@Seventh Heaven 😂😂😂 eritrea 🇪🇷 is never been Ethiopia...ignorance is bliss 😊