Tahtib: Application to Ancient Egyptian Shield and Axe Fighting

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ธ.ค. 2016
  • Da'mon demonstrates how the basic strikes in Tahtib are interchangeable with techniques in Ancient Egyptian Spear and Axe Play.
    This is in conjunction with the techniques taught by Da'mon Stith and his Martial Arts Group 'Sefe Dekote', or Guild of the Silent Sword.
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  • @FuckdasketsHOPassass
    @FuckdasketsHOPassass 7 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    they should hire this guy for Assassins Creed Origins, if they are doing more realistic combat they should study some ancient Egyptian martial arts

  • @davidgeldner2167
    @davidgeldner2167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    What I love about Tahtib is that it’s not “just” fighting with a stick. The whole reason it’s considered the first martial art is that it’s trains the body to have good technique in general; to know how to use weapons in general.

    • @raziyatheseeker
      @raziyatheseeker ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed. A lot of Tahtib strikes remind me of European longsword cuts. Staves are already great fundamentals for spears, and are arguably one of the most practical ancient weapons to train in nowadays,

  • @dick_richards
    @dick_richards 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wow that's fantastic, I study military history, and how men have fought though out the ages too. I just subbed to your channel, keep up the great work!

  • @cyrilgigee4630
    @cyrilgigee4630 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I didn't know what to think when I first saw cutting with a spear, but once I got a look at the implied blade section it seems to me you could just as easily call that a swordstaff.

  • @stevehuff8100
    @stevehuff8100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful. Very fluid. Simply incredible work!

  • @Ethylamine
    @Ethylamine ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember reading about this martial art in the 2000s but have never seen it in action until now. Pretty surprised about how it is used judging from this demonstration I noticed a similarity with for example Bojutsu from Japan, were the stick is also used for combat and intended for strikes but the stance is of course different being held on the middle of the stick to guarantee strikes from both ends of the actual stick. Its interesting to see that it can be applied to axes also and I guess in a actual fight that would use weapons from ancient times that most like if you'd put a Spartan hoplite against a ancient Egyptian than if the Spartan couldn't barricade himself with nos shield and mobilize against the opponent that the Egyptian warriors most likely would be able to hit and kill his opponent if using a axe by landing a series of blows to hit head since its actually quicker than thrusts that the Greeks and the Romans would use a lot of the times being their biggest weakness the need to mobilize and get into formation for battle. Also curious around the historical period that Tahtib would have been in use in ancient Egyptian history as well.

  • @AidenArrows
    @AidenArrows 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You should make step by step training videos for this. Also I assume there was a mental and spiritual training aspect with this as well? Comparable to Asian martial arts but with Egyptian gods?

  • @JHJB97
    @JHJB97 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Ancient Egyptian Martial Arts, eh? Say I'm a HEMA guy and I wanted to pick up Khopesh in my free time: where would I start?

    • @Vagrant860
      @Vagrant860 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      tyrrarius you can start by applying the "six cut saber drill" to the kopesh since the techniques are somewhat similar you can keep practicing them until you are ready for sparring.

    • @svenblubber5448
      @svenblubber5448 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Vagrant860 The Khopesh, apart from in most cases (though not always) being a pure cutting weapon unsuitable for stabbing, offers no hand protection and was almost exclusively used with a shield.... therefore its use is nothing like sabre! Sword and buckler might be similar, if you anly concentrate on cutting...

    • @svenblubber5448
      @svenblubber5448 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @SAYAN 183 there are both surviving examples and depictions of egyptian armies with seemingly mass-produced shields. Assuming they would have used shields with khopeshes is as much a certainty as anything we know of ancient Egypt. That kopeshes have no hand protection and in many cases are pure cutting weapons is a fact, so there is no way it would have been used like a sabre, which relies heavily on its hand protection and uses thrusting...

    • @svenblubber5448
      @svenblubber5448 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @SAYAN 183 if you look at historical depictions and descriptions, tulwars were mainly used with shields in war. While they were used without shields, this would mainly be for ceremonial purposes, modern show-"martial"arts (sastra-vidya), or in self defense in peace times...
      While one can't say khopeshes were never used without a shield, it can safely be assumed that they mainly were, and that if one were looking for a HEMA style as close as possible to historical khopesh use the best starting point would be something with a shield...

  • @tonymontana3949
    @tonymontana3949 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love cause peoples try to found martial arts of their countries and not only something fancy and exotic

  • @haffoc
    @haffoc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice form

  • @EnochDark
    @EnochDark ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool stuff! Curious if he made the oar (axe) thing himself or what it's called so I can order one. 😉

  • @roscoehall309
    @roscoehall309 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How to learn how to fight with a axe just from being a country boy growing up in the woods and I'm good with it too

  • @WynnofThule
    @WynnofThule ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm curious, what kind of weapon is the spear modeled after? You don't often see ones with heads that long

    • @historicalafricanmartialar4295
      @historicalafricanmartialar4295  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your interest. What you are actually looking at is an adaptation of an epsilon axe, modified with longer haft. If you have any other questions, let us know!

  • @tonymontana3949
    @tonymontana3949 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can i make a question way your weapon has hole in blade just art or make not so heavy

    • @historicalafricanmartialar4295
      @historicalafricanmartialar4295  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      GREAT question. The epsilon axe js designed that way to make fastening the bronze head to the shaft easier