Rutherford Gold Foil Experiment - Backstage Science

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  • Ernest Rutherford's famous gold foil experiment involves the scattering of alpha particles as they pass through a thin gold foil.
    It led to a better understanding of the structure of atoms.
    It's also known as the Geiger--Marsden experiment, after Hans Geiger and Ernest Marsden who performed it under Rutherford's supervision.
    Particle physicist Bruce Kennedy explains wit this modern re-creation.
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  • @VincentAcrimony
    @VincentAcrimony 9 ปีที่แล้ว +9745

    That's my father. He was a really intelligent guy and I am still so proud of him.

  • @madsciclare
    @madsciclare 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1384

    It's REALLY cool to be able to see this experiment-I've only seen it in books!
    Thank you so much!

  • @modernblacksmith
    @modernblacksmith 13 ปีที่แล้ว +341

    I was torn in half by this video.....one side loved the cool science of it and the other half was driven insane by that doorbell noise!

  • @Draxis32
    @Draxis32 13 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    I've always been fascinated by this experiment that Rutherford did to prove the atom was not a single blob.
    In my opnion its one of the most revealing experiments in all history of mankind.

  • @purplehayabusa
    @purplehayabusa 12 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    This is the best explanation of the Rutherford Experiment I've ever watched. Very clear and it has a working replica of the experiment.

  • @milfordvital5254
    @milfordvital5254 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2331

    I'm here because of my assignment

  • @Shroommduke
    @Shroommduke 9 ปีที่แล้ว +805

    Someone get the door!

  • @fluxcapacitor05
    @fluxcapacitor05 12 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    By far the best explanation of Rutherford's Gold Foil Experiment and Plumb Pudding model that I"VE ever seen...

  • @lomertamahon1
    @lomertamahon1 11 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    the ghost in the atom wants to know if you're home.

  • @flawns
    @flawns 10 ปีที่แล้ว +459

    I can't focus on what he is saying with that door bell ringing noise

  • @StarFury2
    @StarFury2 11 ปีที่แล้ว +207

    Buy full version today, to remove irritating ringing!!!

  • @AliChi
    @AliChi 11 ปีที่แล้ว +184

    Man, I really want to do this, but I have no gold foil...

  • @ritheshrprabhu8584
    @ritheshrprabhu8584 11 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    thank you . for a reconstruction of the rutherford experiment

  • @So_Sinister
    @So_Sinister 10 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Thank you!. I finally understand.

  • @Jonesv33
    @Jonesv33 10 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    My dog was barking at the door all through this. Good way to link Rutherford's experiment with Cern.

  • @CoyoteBuddy
    @CoyoteBuddy 13 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    History and practicality together. Great video. Quit worrying about the bell, it's just a BELL!

  • @sorrydogz
    @sorrydogz 11 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    12 people obviously had a teacher assign this to be watched

  • @dmidc
    @dmidc 11 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    A lot of speaker wire and headphone jacks/plugs today use gold plating/wires as well since it causes the least amount of interference. You could probably get gold the same way from there as well ^.^

  • @TheProCactus
    @TheProCactus 10 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I dont normaly like dodgy top comments on a good science video.
    But that nearly made me choke on my bong.
    Cheers

  • @anishjaywant
    @anishjaywant 10 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Does that ringing bell tells us that alpha particle is detected by alpha detector..and yeah those detectors must be present @ angel of 180 Degree too.

  • @Chapterlegend
    @Chapterlegend 10 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    I put on video, walked away heard the bell ring, paused the video. checked who was at the door, walked back pressed play, heard it again paused. this happen one more time. reset, the video read what it said! and :) lol

  • @NamesDontMatter1992
    @NamesDontMatter1992 10 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    So useful. Its good to know that someone out there knows what he's doing. :-)

  • @vasudev666666
    @vasudev666666 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    excellent video, thanks

  • @rahulgautamsharma8056
    @rahulgautamsharma8056 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    it helped me so much in my studies......

  • @nicstroud
    @nicstroud 11 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Excellent explanation and experiment recreation. Subscribed.

  • @thugricanz
    @thugricanz 10 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    So nobody knew about the atomic nucleus before his experiments? that is amazing to me! It wasn't that long time ago :X

  • @theyouuser
    @theyouuser 11 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    excellent thank you.

  • @SchumiUCD
    @SchumiUCD 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @thewindowproject The distribution of particles is proportional to 1/sin^4(O/2)

  • @vmelkon
    @vmelkon 12 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The bell could be outside the jar. I think the digital counters are outside as well.

  • @twycross3
    @twycross3 13 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Loved your video!!!!!

  • @MrTranceNinja
    @MrTranceNinja 13 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    It seems the detectors are at quite precise angles - is that for a reason? Do all of the electrons hitting or getting deflected by the gold leaf/foil deflect at particular angles, or are the detectors placed in the most likely positions?

  • @MultiBrendab
    @MultiBrendab 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    @iiAngelic A negative and negative deflected like a magnet and how he found out I believe was by using a nucleus that was negatively charged so every time a electron would go thru it would bounce back in various directions

  • @HarryBrielmann
    @HarryBrielmann 9 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    The gold foil is 1.5 microns thick, and the gold atoms atoms are in the nanometer range... how many layers of gold atoms does the helium nuclei need to avoid to pass through without deflection? Thousands? ....Why is only one gold atom shown in the model? That doesnt look like an accurate model to me. How frequently are the alpha particles being emitted? Does gold foil that thick present an effectively solid wall of gold? If helium nuclei pass through easily, how about helium atoms? How about water? Wouldnt a pin-ball sort of behavior be expected for the alpha particles? Helium is a noble gas, but a helium with a +2 charge would be an incredibly reactive ion, desperately seeking electrons...could it react chemically?? These are the sorts of questions that anyone would wonder about. I do.

  • @asmathyder
    @asmathyder 13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i love that bell sound

  • @theWackedOut19
    @theWackedOut19 12 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    this is reallly cool

  • @SimbaMwendapole
    @SimbaMwendapole 13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    @flakemusic86 hahahaha, it got me too. I went to the door thinking there was someone!

  • @LolxDBart
    @LolxDBart 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the person who disliked thought there was someone at the door and kept pausing the video and running to the door.

  • @LtPinback
    @LtPinback 13 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    @MrTranceNinja No scattering goes on around the target. You move the second detector to get a statistical scatter count for each angle. It always bothers me that they simplify this point in the animations. So alpha particles mostly go in a straight line to the 1st detector and a "small" number scatter in ALL directions from the gold atom encounter. Is that clear.

  • @vk2zay
    @vk2zay 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is that belljar under vacuum? The MFP of alphas from Am-241 can't be too long?

  • @bellinivernon
    @bellinivernon 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Exelente !

  • @supergsx
    @supergsx 13 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Do they ever take quantum effects into consideration in this particular experiment?

  • @kyle3420
    @kyle3420 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @vk2zay The range of alpha particles from Am-241 in air @STP is about 4.13 cm

  • @yashodeepsant2743
    @yashodeepsant2743 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    nice science!!

  • @Chucktage
    @Chucktage 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thanks good video

  • @TheCRTman
    @TheCRTman 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice. :D

  • @Christophe_L
    @Christophe_L 13 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Awesome channel, Brady! I only found out about it today! I wish you got rid of the cheesy 80's educational video music, though :/

  • @Sini444
    @Sini444 10 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    thank u so much....

  • @wyojeep
    @wyojeep 13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great experiment video with "anybody can understand" illustrations, however the doorbell volume was overwhelming the rest of the audio.

  • @MrTranceNinja
    @MrTranceNinja 13 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    @LtPinback Ah right - that makes sense, thanks. Simple diagrams only make things more complicated, it would seem. :P

  • @appelelle
    @appelelle 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @zapo147 thank you! :-)

  • @marvincervantes3493
    @marvincervantes3493 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    the brass can? does brass behave the same way that Lead did back in Rutherfords day?

  • @xDeviLZeee
    @xDeviLZeee 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    After every deflection would the nucleus of the Gold foil would it loose energy?

  • @simons901
    @simons901 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    if alpha particles are helium nuclei (lighter than air) surely it makes more sense to place the detector above the alpha decay outlet - also what about the atoms in the air causing interference!

  • @BackstageScience
    @BackstageScience  13 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    @vk2zay it was pumped down yes.

  • @LOLgamer90
    @LOLgamer90 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well but the electrons were not spread randomly, as what shrodinger said that the electrons are spread in organised clouds of electrons...

  • @joel7308
    @joel7308 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @iiAngelic this is wat i understand alpha particles r positive so wen they come in contact with the proton very close they deflect back i'm i correct if u get the correct answer tell me pls

  • @SubhamShrivastavaa
    @SubhamShrivastavaa 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    cool thank u n nw YOU tube thanxxxx! =D

  • @louistournas120
    @louistournas120 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Marvin Cervantes:"the brass can? does brass behave the same way that Lead did back in Rutherfords day?"
    Brass and pretty much most metal will work because it stops alpha particles. The gamma ray will mostly pass through and they will hit the detector head on. All you need to do is remove the gamma ray counts from the counter.

  • @naturfagstoff
    @naturfagstoff 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Easier to make thin enough, even if it is expensive.

  • @ze_rubenator
    @ze_rubenator 13 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video, but you should have used some Genesis music =P
    (Mike Rutherford played the bass/guitar in Genesis)

  • @piranha031091
    @piranha031091 13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    @HAMMERHEARTSSB He also looks like Nicolas Rush, from Stargate Universe!

  • @TheRaybreaker
    @TheRaybreaker 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    wt abot the alpha particle vch mak head to head contact with the nucleus? that part is not mentiond here. any hv nyc n imformative

  • @himasekharvemuri
    @himasekharvemuri 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    nice

  • @vmelkon
    @vmelkon 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is there a vacuum in the bell jar?

  • @Fourmyle1
    @Fourmyle1 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Not hard to get. I'd probably cheat and plate some thin copper and then disolve the center :-) . Old electronics have a fair bit of gold plating ( early 70s it could be gold alloy ) and if you just need a strip then drop a wire wrap pin ( old style apx 1 mm by 2 mm ) into some dilute nitric and wait. If you find a Burrows B500 computer to strip, I'd like an invitation to your yacht afterwards :D

  • @ActiveStorage
    @ActiveStorage 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    how this experiment can show the actual geometry of an atom?! You can only speculate about it.

  • @mohitkoli1
    @mohitkoli1 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    nyc one..

  • @Nenets15
    @Nenets15 9 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Maybe i sound stupid but.. How can there be particles of a particular charge all disposed in a container?

  • @JoshMr07
    @JoshMr07 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @ManusCelerDei legend... probably a more correct term

  • @suvidani
    @suvidani 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    They definitely repeat the experiment without the particle source, then subtract this control from the measured count. This matters only if you want to quantify the result, the phenomena is obvious without this control.

  • @LtPinback
    @LtPinback 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @LtPinback No. (period) Scattering goes on around the target.

  • @Mikeyadig1095
    @Mikeyadig1095 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gotta Love Chemistry

  • @ArthurViktorHoffmann
    @ArthurViktorHoffmann 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @vmelkon if there is a vacuum in there, then there would be any sound

  • @EDude82
    @EDude82 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    exactly however i gave it a like as it was interesting

  • @pooltrader
    @pooltrader 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW THE DETECTORS WORK? ARE THEY PHOTODIODES, COVERED BY THIN ALUMINUM MYLAR?

  • @Lavabug
    @Lavabug 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @deanbrickland
    The size of a nucleus is extremely small compared to the entire atom, the probability of a head-on collision is very low.

  • @sharnrock
    @sharnrock 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It has nothing to do with interference. Copper and aluminum are more likely to oxidize than Gold. Interference is caused by inductance or magnetic fluctuations caused by alternating electrical current.

  • @MultiBrendab
    @MultiBrendab 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @Mrleopleasure I know I don't get the use of knowing this, except for the use of wanting to make an atomic bomb.

  • @eshwarramesh6992
    @eshwarramesh6992 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    about:cache

  • @hashmeme
    @hashmeme 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    yeah...it wasn't too long ago...only a century back ;)

  • @W31RDC4ND3C
    @W31RDC4ND3C 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @Phil Sam

  • @farefouse
    @farefouse 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    what about background radiation

  • @trespire
    @trespire 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @flakemusic86 Maybe it's an alpha particle at the door ! :-/

  • @giuseppemarziano2148
    @giuseppemarziano2148 11 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    A-level physics :'(

  • @rjhrjh3
    @rjhrjh3 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    This experiment proves that atoms are mostly empty space. But does this say how big the nuclei are?

  • @paridhirai4839
    @paridhirai4839 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    preety gud one

  • @JackMania77377
    @JackMania77377 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I only study chemistry for the methamphetamine business.

  • @jeebersjumpincryst
    @jeebersjumpincryst 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    excellent vid - thanks! @puncheex thumbs up for that :)

  • @zbret
    @zbret 12 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Would somebody get the door!?

  • @iiAngelic
    @iiAngelic 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    i still don't understand. why do the particles bounce back?

  • @prwexler
    @prwexler 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great presentation. (...but you need to see an American dentist, right away!)

  • @matthias3895
    @matthias3895 13 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Awesome experiment! Awful doorbell!

  • @abaabaabaaba4
    @abaabaabaaba4 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know this has already happened but
    Hydrogen

  • @alliestewart6490
    @alliestewart6490 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    am i the only one who wanted this guy to say the word "strawberry" the whole time?
    straw-bur-ee

  • @nodariel
    @nodariel 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought one of Rutherfords students were responsible for this laborious experiment? Is this true?

  • @michaellovegrove
    @michaellovegrove 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    answer your damn door!

  • @airazabu1126
    @airazabu1126 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    how can i download it

  • @1AaronDanger
    @1AaronDanger 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    me like science

  • @luckyluke1232
    @luckyluke1232 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    intesresting

  • @JTX8000
    @JTX8000 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    why gold ?