Thurston Moore og Jørn Stubberud about Mayhem at Rockheim 2016

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  • BOKBAD på Rockheim august 2016: JØRN STUBBERUD OG THURSTON MOORE - DØDSARKIV
    Moore og Stubberud snakker om boka Dødsarkiv. Mayhem 1984 - 1994, som Moore nettopp ga ut på sitt engelske forlag Ecstatic Peace Library. Moore er stor fan av black metal generelt og Mayhem spesielt, i tillegg til å ha vært en av grunnpilarene innen alternativ rock.
    Thurston Moore & Jørn "Necrobutcher" Stubberud in discussion regarding "The Death Archives: Mayhem 1984-94" published in English by Ecstatic Peace Library.
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    Videomaterialet er lånt av Rockheim og er den del av deres arkiv!

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  • @Legion_Atreides
    @Legion_Atreides 8 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    Awesome Interview! I never thought i'd see these two peoples in the same room, talking and having similarity! Love Sonic Youth and Mayhem.

  • @andypike1234
    @andypike1234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Hearing Thurston Moore saying "I´ve always been an incredible Mayhem enthusiast" is the most unexpected statement I´ve ever heard...

    • @garystiltner3385
      @garystiltner3385 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Probably also a lie... Probably started being an "enthusiast" when the documentary came out...

    • @abethecop1
      @abethecop1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@garystiltner3385 that’s not true… Thurston Moore is a huge black metal fan and even joined the USBM supergroup Twilight as far back as 2012. Pretty cool stuff!

    • @SkullOfTheAbyss
      @SkullOfTheAbyss 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@abethecop1 Twilight was extremely ghey

    • @ndesdsadfd
      @ndesdsadfd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@garystiltner3385 Untrue. He's been genuinely interested in the BM scene from aeons. Music lovers generally love music...y''know? Lots of different kinds of music, actually.

  • @ModernDayWarrior2112
    @ModernDayWarrior2112 7 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    In all honesty, Sonic Youth and Mayhem are very similar in which they are very extreme bands in their respective genres. It’s cool to see Thurston and Jørn just chatting away.

  • @kuolematonkuolaaja
    @kuolematonkuolaaja 7 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    This is the shit. Two cool guys indeed.

  • @benthies9531
    @benthies9531 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    For those who don't know, Thurston Moore is in a black metal band called Twilight!

    • @jumpfart666
      @jumpfart666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea...buncha hipsters...the 1st album is where its at

  • @noelhutz
    @noelhutz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    necrobutchers laugh is absolutely hilarious

    • @niezyje8922
      @niezyje8922 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      hat hat hat hat hat

  • @Casketkrusher_
    @Casketkrusher_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Necro is a cool down to earth guy.

  • @Federico.el.Noruego
    @Federico.el.Noruego 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I live in Ski on the other side of the cementary where Euronymous is buried too and work in Langhus where Mayhem was founded

  • @yuggothproductions
    @yuggothproductions 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Mahler was a Jew, not a Nazi sympathizer! Other than that, great conversation! 😊

  • @belia1313
    @belia1313 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Good interview.....MAYHEM FOREVER \m/

  • @Intermentor
    @Intermentor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Glad Mayhem was open to electronic/ambient/noise music back in the days. Meet this black metal moron lately that could not just understand electronical and experimental music. I can understand such critic from people that are into Bon Jovi and Brian Adams, but a black metal person have to understand that it is not easy listening music either (it is ok not to like something, but I dont need a 10 minute explanation. I rather start a fight). So cheers to Mayhem for breathing a bit outside the box, not just listening to Venom and Celtic Frost 24/7. Get inspiration from the outside.

  • @hoellenkatzlehensmarr6036
    @hoellenkatzlehensmarr6036 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    In so happy & excited that Necrobutcher has written the book! And this interview is awesome...Joern seems to be a humble dude and he and Mayhem deserves to reap some positive fruits!Mayhem? Mayhem!

  • @jlobiafra
    @jlobiafra 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thurston is ten years older than Necro, but it looks like the opposite

    • @sleepedge8257
      @sleepedge8257 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      True to his bands name he really has tapped into the fountain of youth

  • @nativedane9351
    @nativedane9351 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Jørn seem like such a sweet dude!

  • @Federico.el.Noruego
    @Federico.el.Noruego 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Met Jørn in Ski he signed my copy of his book He is Awesome

  • @diluted8
    @diluted8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Strange fact I used to love opening up new Sega Genesis video games and smelling the cassette case

  • @legendlemmylivetowin7185
    @legendlemmylivetowin7185 7 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Jørn is the real thing

    • @oliverphilippe4703
      @oliverphilippe4703 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      jorn is a idiot varg should re join the band

    • @Sveino1000
      @Sveino1000 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Jørn isnt an idiot. Varg doesnt even like Black Metal anymore. Burzum wasnt bm after Filosofem, Varg even said it himself.

    • @oliverphilippe4703
      @oliverphilippe4703 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      you obviously have not heard burzums new album belus which is pure black metal

    • @oliverphilippe4703
      @oliverphilippe4703 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      euronymous would kill every member of mayhem if he was alive today he kicked necrobutcher out of the band because jorn was talentless and holding the band back a great new mayhem would consist of varg guitar fenriz bass hellhammer drums aldrahn guitar and old dark funeral singer on vocals

    • @kuolematonkuolaaja
      @kuolematonkuolaaja 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Belus sounds like black metal but is not. Good album though.

  • @zachbos5108
    @zachbos5108 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Necrobanker : "I could have put it online, but I realized I could make a lot more money this way".

    • @CTCAC2000
      @CTCAC2000 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      necrobanker...lol

  • @skatterpro
    @skatterpro 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    35:38 - So damn spot on. The margins are what makes a difference. The margins are where the power resides.
    The stuff about doing legwork to find something different I have to disagree with though. There certainly are acts out there where you feel like you find something new, where there is innovation, and even rarity in finding it. Even in this day and age where filesharing has completely exploded, and spotify is taking over and all that, there still are bands and albums you just can't find more than a snippet of. There still is music left to explore. Saying it won't affect an entire generation, or what ever, is pure nonsense. You can't see the forest for the trees, and you can't pinpoint greatness before it's reached that status unless you're already in the movement, and even then you can't see the cultural impact.

  • @eduardomorales3092
    @eduardomorales3092 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love Sonic Yourh and Mayhem since i was a teenager, (1997) great interview!

  • @trendmassacre8423
    @trendmassacre8423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thurston Moore and Necro Butcher on the same stage...I have officially hit the end of the internet.

  • @medusinator
    @medusinator 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That's a great interview, never knew Jørn is a huge fan of the Beastie Boys

  • @borivoj_navratil
    @borivoj_navratil 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Been real pleasure watching those two great artists, whose musical output I happen to admire in my own way.

  • @starvingbuddha7622
    @starvingbuddha7622 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Looking back in hindsight it is funny to consider how the label "black metal" got attached. The same thing happened with punk. It seems simultaneously a blessing and a curse. Sometimes funny, sometimes irritating. As a musician, you get stuck into that definition, and the true scope of your artistic vision can be clouded

    • @diluted8
      @diluted8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Very relevant comment. Thank you.

    • @SkullOfTheAbyss
      @SkullOfTheAbyss 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Posers spotted

  • @Tchernobog
    @Tchernobog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    25:16 something for the ladies

  • @vladdrakul7851
    @vladdrakul7851 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A very good interview. How great that 'so called' opposites meet and show their commonality while NEVER sacrificing who they are as individuals. Dig IT!

  • @Gr13fKvlt
    @Gr13fKvlt 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What an amazing find. Thank you kindly for uploading this.

  • @mushroomleg
    @mushroomleg 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love necros laugh. Sounds like a total stoner. Saw them on this tour and it was godly!

  • @eaglebauer944
    @eaglebauer944 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Props to Jørn. Duran Duran's "Rio" is indeed a great album.

  • @evasan6089
    @evasan6089 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For Thurston Moore : Gustav Mahler was not a Hitler sympahth. He lived 7 July 1860 - 18 May 1911) He was also Jewish, and his music was banned by Nazis.

    • @yuggothproductions
      @yuggothproductions 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Eva San yeah I thought this was weird too. I think he was thinking of the Nazi’s adopting Wagner’s music, but once again they both predated Nazi germany by many years.

    • @yuggothproductions
      @yuggothproductions 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      kongvinter33 that’s true yes. Wagner also wrote a treatise on why Jews can’t or shouldn’t write music. Not a great guy to say the least!

    • @evasan6089
      @evasan6089 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well.. Even Wagner was dead long before Hitler.. And he has it all wrong. I think this nazi comparison of all and everything is just stupid.

    • @SkullOfTheAbyss
      @SkullOfTheAbyss 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yuggothproductions wow! That’s crazy! What prompted him to make those comments?? What were his points? I never knew this.

  • @bucksatanII
    @bucksatanII 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent interview. Thank you

  • @1158mojo
    @1158mojo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    between two ferns. but really i am only 25 minutes in and this is decent. honest even.

  • @Federico.el.Noruego
    @Federico.el.Noruego 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Necro Jørn Rules

  • @romanplesko5304
    @romanplesko5304 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Yorn is lookalike David Yow.

    • @eaglebauer944
      @eaglebauer944 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely. If Jorn would wear cowboy boots you couldn't tell the difference.

    • @newforestpixie5297
      @newforestpixie5297 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought he looked like the guy from Radiohead THOM Yorke but I’m 57 without my glasses 🙄🏴🐢

  • @bernstyles
    @bernstyles 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice interview, looking forward to the 2nd book!

  • @cyolag
    @cyolag 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you Man From your Video , but Please in french ! subtile . From the Black métal comunity

  • @thadood4373
    @thadood4373 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Interesting combination

  • @newforestpixie5297
    @newforestpixie5297 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In 1987 my Sonic Youth & ‘ alternative’ rock music loving chum Peck was very pissed - off because his new Killing Joke album ( Brighter than a thousand suns ) was disappointing - because in his words it , “ sounds like fucking Aha “ - So at least after 34 years and hearing these fellows admit to enjoying the odd bit of mainstream music , I can square a circle between Norwegian Pop & Un Pop music and Sonic Youth ...🙄🏴❤️new forest chicken coop pixies

  • @Albertobalsam
    @Albertobalsam 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thurston Moore: "Gustav Mahler sympathized with Adolf Hitler" What? Since when? Why?

    • @Albertobalsam
      @Albertobalsam 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "Yeah, Gustav Mahler, fuck him", probably Richard Wagner would have said that, when Mahler started earlier to compose

    • @maxabeles
      @maxabeles 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Albertobalsam lol for real, he must have confused him with Wagner. Mahler was Jewish, although he did convert to Christianity to be able to hold his position at the Vienna Opera House.

    • @JoeParrish
      @JoeParrish 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@maxabeles Still doesn't make sense, both died years before anyone even knew who Hitler was, Wagner before he was even born

    • @maxabeles
      @maxabeles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JoeParrish yeah youre right XD lets face it, neither of these people know what they are talking about...

  • @elkendros26
    @elkendros26 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please, add the subtitles.

  • @scrabbledmind
    @scrabbledmind 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice interview.
    ......Kool Thing

  • @thyxreaper
    @thyxreaper 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    22:49 - 22:53

  • @floresdelmal5512
    @floresdelmal5512 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jørn giggling is everything

  • @zachbos5108
    @zachbos5108 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Surreal.

  • @endowednigerian
    @endowednigerian 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    thurston sounds like agent smith from the matrix here

  • @hallowed
    @hallowed 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Take a shot every time Necrobutcher taps his feet

  • @Wargr89
    @Wargr89 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sometimes those super long never ending questions must be slightly annoying... :D

  • @Intermentor
    @Intermentor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jørn looks like a thin Jon Oliva

  • @marijadjerkovic1277
    @marijadjerkovic1277 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stuberud get wrong question s just about music look gorgoroth interview still don't got it

  • @yuggothproductions
    @yuggothproductions 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is amazing! Really enjoying this!

  • @pawspawlisko4025
    @pawspawlisko4025 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    His laugh xD

  • @petermoes1668
    @petermoes1668 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the upload. Great interview.

  • @tianpermana3558
    @tianpermana3558 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Necro i like you

  • @marijadjerkovic1277
    @marijadjerkovic1277 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is not for the Masses

  • @chrisguastaferro6147
    @chrisguastaferro6147 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've come to realize that Necrobutcher is one scary grandfather

  • @jameswest8241
    @jameswest8241 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for this video!!

  • @boredom535
    @boredom535 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was cool.

  • @AbtinX
    @AbtinX 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Picture in picture on android, looked like guy on the left had no pants, and stubberud had no shirt?

  • @romeosalbatecu4877
    @romeosalbatecu4877 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just in case someone has lots of time and some basic photoshop skills, take a screenshot at 45:28. White shirt, arm position...

  • @cyolag
    @cyolag 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please french

    • @zachbos5108
      @zachbos5108 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Tu connais deja un peu anglais, continuer a apprendre, ca ce merite.

    • @lordsavagelord1659
      @lordsavagelord1659 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No

    • @booshting3520
      @booshting3520 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think not.

    • @Fireglo
      @Fireglo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Je boo boo Claude. Bleh blu bla bleh blah blu.

  • @butch4365
    @butch4365 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The interviewer looks like he should be in an FBI safehouse?. Who wears their hair like that??!!! And sunglasses?? Come on!!!

    • @eaglebauer944
      @eaglebauer944 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thurston does get over it, and he is not the "interviewer" he's the publisher of Jorns book.

  • @sanderpietersen53
    @sanderpietersen53 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mayhem is more punk than Metal 🤘🏻

    • @oliverphilippe4703
      @oliverphilippe4703 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Seander Pietersen you obviously never heard de mysteriis dom sathanas

  • @botramduuze7188
    @botramduuze7188 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That guy on the left talks too much

    • @galetinm
      @galetinm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That guy on the left is the frontman and guitarist from Sonic Youth. One of the most influential bands from the 80s/90s. And he published the book.

  • @beerman3876
    @beerman3876 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need Christ

  • @nihilistambush1583
    @nihilistambush1583 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't believe that Thurston published Necrobutcher book!!! I don't like mayhem because of there treatment on the animals and there "poser" style!!! all things had to think Thurston after his relationship and production with Merzbow!!!! i think he was done it for money and that is very sad!!!

    • @AbigorRealm69
      @AbigorRealm69 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Wtf are you babbling about?

    • @nihilistambush1583
      @nihilistambush1583 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      its obvious that published for money..... black metal is full commercial product mate!!!!

    • @nihilistambush1583
      @nihilistambush1583 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      and see merz interviews about his opinion for the bands that treat animals with the way mayhem do...

    • @monsieurclaudesac1545
      @monsieurclaudesac1545 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Merzbow doesn't give his albums away for free either so wtf you on about?

    • @1985cactus
      @1985cactus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@monsieurclaudesac1545 think he was talking about Merzbow being vegan/vegetarian and about animal rights.