Choosing The Right Regulator
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- Choosing The Right Regulator
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When divers talk about regulators they are usually talking about a complete set of regulators which is typically made up of a first stage, hoses, a second stage, a redundant second stage (normally referred to as an Octopus) and an instrument console (which can include pressure gauge, depth gauge, compass or possibly a dive computer)
All of these components can be bought individually but manufacturers match suitable elements together to create pre-assembled packs to meet a number of uses and environments that both recreational and technical divers typically find themselves in.
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35yrs of diving always with mixed brand regulators, nothing wrong with a Scubapro, Dacor, Oceanic, Sherwood rig..
I have dived less than a year and I was very suspicious about that comment in video.
Thanks for clarifying.
This is the first I've ever heard the alternate needs to the same brand as your first stage. As a matter of fact, I've always had a different brand on mine and was sold and installed at various dive shops. I've bought several through the years.
Was just about to comment this. Pile of BS.
Yeah I don’t see why they’d have to be the same brand
Had a Mares 1st stage and primary, and US Divers octo for over 25 years, with no issue.
You can mix and match regulator brands / manufacturers, it just would not be advised by the manufacturers because they want your money for the Octo as well, all the gas fittings are standard.
I ve been using an oceanic air XS integrated with my aqualung Titan set up for 10+ years🤷🏽
Do first stages matter that much, apart from if they are designed for cold or warmer water?
I have been diving since 1990 2,3,4 dive trips per year, Hot and Cold destinations. I Dive French Federation so can do -60m if I choose. Most important thing at the moment is get a DIN regulator not an INT. In the red sea and elsewhere they pump their tanks to 230+. Yes they have INT but with INT you use their O rings, badly maintained and I have had one Blow completely. With DIN you use your O ring and that will be good.unless you are stupid.. After that check the service cost and time of the regulator. A service can cost nearly as much as a regulator. Yes I am a bad man, I use Scdubapro regulators, religiosly soak them in diluted vinegar followed by distilled water soaking after every trip.. My favorite regulator Scubapro Mk2, not balanced, bought second hand, had been hammered by a club, So SIMPLE so light on breathing, even at depth. Easy to maintain. Still travels in my bag as a reserve. Second stage my Octo, If someone needs it it WILL worki.
What regulator do you personally use mark? I don’t know why TH-camrs never say what gear they prefer to use.
... I run miss matched, but the components are all at a similar performance level ...
Recommended to me by some Techies was a APEKS DS4 1st stage and ATX40's. last me for life
Hi. This video was very helpful! However, what I’m most interested in right now is tanks - how often do I need to dive locally to get a good ROI on a tank and what kind of tanks are good for which conditions/types of diving. For example, I’m pretty efficient with my air consumption but half of the people around where I live have high pressure tanks, which makes it a little awkward when finding buddies if they have a high pressure and you don’t. But I’m not about how to weight myself for a high pressure tank and if it’ll be harder to get filled. It would be so great if you could do a video on tanks. Thanks again!
Have the same questions as this. Being u didn’t get a response what did u go with an why
@@AquaTech225 I ended up getting high pressure steel 80s and it was soooo worth it. The HP tanks are great because I am shorter so they are move comfortable. I can still dive with many of my older male buddies who dive 100s without running out of air and my female buddy who is good on air consumption and I can sometimes do two dives on the same tank if we get cold and get out early and owning my own tanks makes life so much better - no need to wait on a rental or worry about returning them. For deeper dives I just rent a 100 with Nitrox. And with a fill card and/or some free fills for being a volunteer Reef Check diver, I’m pretty sure I’ve made back my investment. I’m actually waiting for a fill at this exact moment. Other key purchase - the little things that look like pool noodles that keep the tanks from rolling around in your car.
What's the reason for you to say you can not mix brands (1st, 2nd, and octo)?
Tayguara Pereira different inter-stage pressures. Different first stages step the pressure from the cylinder down to different levels. But the vast majority of manufacturers use the same pressure range (135 - 145 PSI). So you totally can mix first, primary second and octi stages.
Provided you do the research and/or have them tuned together. I've serviced more than one set where nothing matched. E.g. a US Divers first stage, mares primary and oceanic octi mounted on cressi hoses with a suunto gauge. All worked fine. Well, as well as mares and oceanic ever work, anyway.
I see. Thanks for the reply and love you channel. Keep it up !!
I smell "flowers" !
Lifetime high performance gear is all I buy, because no matter what depth or temperature I'm at, my life depends on my gear working correctly at all times.
Not mixing brands....?? That is the worst advice i have ever heard. I have been diving professionally since 1995 and I mix all my regulators and then adjust them accordingly for the intermediate pressure. I have SP A700 on a MK25 with an OMS Evoque as a primary. I have SP MK2+ with Oceanic GT3 and Aqualung Calypso. I even combined a SP G250 to a Poseidon first stage and primary. My point is, that you can put everything together IF you know how to adjust it properly! But if you are a brand new diver and uncertain, what to buy, then i suggest you buy a ie. Scubapro first stage with a primary and a R095 or R195 Octopus, then you have come a long way. If you have the money and you want absolutely the best, then buy a complete Poseidon regulatorkit. You will never regret it and you will have a set for the rest of your life. I have 3 different Poseidon kits and they have never failed yet. The oldest is from 1996 and is a Cyklon 5000 and it works super. Just make sure to take care of it and have it serviced regurlarly. Mixing brands has for me never been a problem at any point, just know what you are doing.
You are absolutely right. If anyone doesn't believe it, look for the videos by Alec Pierce, he not only explains how you can mix and match, he actually demonstrates it.
So .. Basically there is 2 factors to look at. If cold water diving - heavier first stage, if you want easier to breathe - pay more for primary. This video didn't help me at all.
You are 100% wrong on mixing brands of octopus. Any brand of octo can be used on any first stage if it is tuned properly. In fact some mixed brands work better than same brands.
Really? Why can you not mix and match brands? All first stages reduce to intermediate pressure. Yes you may need to have the 2nd stage tunes for 1st but there is no reason to not mix and match.
Because the intermediate pressure differs from brand to brand. For example your 1st stage gives 11 bar intermediate pressure and the 2nd stage only takes 8.9bar. This creates troubles and is the reason why you should not mix the brands.
Why the hell would you lie to everyone like that? You absolutely DO NOT have to have matching brands in your regulator set?
Too much jargon for new divers.
Not mixing brands....?? That is the worst advice i have ever heard. I have been diving professionally since 1995 and I mix all my regulators and then adjust them accordingly for the intermediate pressure. I have SP A700 on a MK25 with an OMS Evoque as a primary. I have SP MK2+ with Oceanic GT3 and Aqualung Calypso. I even combined a SP G250 to a Poseidon first stage and primary. My point is, that you can put everything together IF you know how to adjust it properly! But if you are a brand new diver and uncertain, what to buy, then i suggest you buy a ie. Scubapro first stage with a primary and a R095 or R195 Octopus, then you have come a long way. If you have the money and you want absolutely the best, then buy a complete Poseidon regulatorkit. You will never regret it and you will have a set for the rest of your life. I have 3 different Poseidon kits and they have never failed yet. The oldest is from 1996 and is a Cyklon 5000 and it works super. Just make sure to take care of it and have it serviced regurlarly. Mixing brands has for me never been a problem at any point, just know what you are doing.
I have asthma,& stopped diving due to respiratory infection from a deep dive @ 100 ft..Got spooked,badly! Assinine divemaster team.( Padi),Florida.Live& learn. Cressi regulator ? Any thoughts..I saw scubalab tested ****.Easy breathing & safety biggest concern.Not bells& whistles..Female diver here,! Thank you 🙏