Microdosing of Psychedelics for Adult ADHD
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 พ.ย. 2023
- In this short video I discuss a recent study that appeared in the mainstream trade media this week on the benefits of macrodosing of psychedelics for adults with ADHD. The article was reporting the results of a journal article recently published and shown below. It is by a group of scientists in The Netherlands who published other results from this same project a year ago. That paper is also shown below.
This is a rather poorly done scientific study that did not involve any control procedures for possible confounding variables. It simply surveys people claiming to have a diagnosis of ADHD or high symptoms who intended to use macrodosing of psychedelics over the next month. it had them complete online surveys of ADHD, well-being, personality traits, and mindfulness at baseline, two weeks later and 4 weeks later. 80% of the sample had left the survey by week 4. No placebo condition was used, nor was the use of psychedelics monitored in anyway other than asking if the people had taken their doses each day. Because of the numerous flaws in such a study, one cannot conclude that micro-dosing of psychedelics helps manage ADHD or improve mindfulness and well-being, as the authors reported. Clearly more and better research needs to be done before making any claims about the benefits of psychedelics for adult ADHD.
Journal articles that I discuss in this video:
Haijen, E. C. et al. (2023). Trait mindfulness and personality characteristics in a microdosing ADHD sample: a naturalistic prospective survey study. Frontiers in Psychiatry, 16 October 2023.
www.frontiersin.org/articles/...
Haijen, E. C. et al. (2022). Microdosing with psychedelics to self-medicate for ADHD symptoms in adults: A prospective naturalistic study. Neuroscience Applied, 1. www.sciencedirect.com/science...
Psychedelics helped me get out of years of depression and severe social anxiety. They have proven very effective in treating various mental health related issues.
I've been looking to try shrooms. Can someone direct me to a source?
Doctor_coxx is the person you want. He's the most knowledgeable about psychedelics that I know.
He's on instgram??
You can find him there, he's excellent.
Golden Teacher mushrooms has been quite therapeutic for me and I’m using PE for spiritual and mental gratification.
I love that they surveyed people with ADHD and 80% didn't return their surveys 😄 I feel seen.
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Microdosing psilocybin, around 0.3 and 0.4, just enough that it´s felt and has a little glow, has helped me a lot. It soothes my mind so much and my mind feels less foggy. It also allows me to click into meditation way easier.
So you can take it with your adhd medication? I’m having trouble trying to figure out if it’s safe or not
@@gabriellewhite6194I've seen it mentioned it is not unsafe to mix, but it was in the context of people tapering off/getting off the ADHD meds and transitioning to microdosing. Tapering off the pharma should be done slowly and ideally with awareness from doc, but I know that's not an option to many due to clueless doctors out there.
Maybe have some time between pharma dosing and microdose. I'm not a doc, but wanted add my 0.2¢. Goodluck
Genuine question, because I just started. How much you weight? Coz I’ve tried 0.1 and I felt nothing at all, I tried 0.2 and somehow I felt my mind running like crazy I felt so restless so idk if that means 0.2 is too much or if I should try 0.3. I read that 0.2 should be alright for 60kilos so, idk if you can guide me with your experience would be very helpful
@@NItzzy-bj5hs I used 0.1 and felt the effects but not the "golden ticket" I was looking for to rid me of my ADHD. Tried 0.2 and was in "limbo" - a place between sub-psychedelic but perceptual and psychedelic which effectively just feels like anxiety and excess energy that one would feel whilst "coming up" on a macrodose. Try 0.15, you shouldn't really feel or see anything except common side effects such as more positive mood, increased appetite, colours feeling warmer/deeper, "quieter" headspace/more clarity, more in touch with emotions. You do not want to be feeling overly introspective, or anything close toward the macrodose effects if you want to be using as part of a self-medication plan for ADHD. I found that microdosing on it's own produced effects of lethargy, over contentness/satisfaction, and self-comforting when giving in to vices (being too kind to myself about over eating for example). I found a much better combination to be the microdose with a medium dose of standard ADHD Medication, it helped to reduce the side effects of anxiety (general and social), lack of appetite, emotionlessness, and depressive thoughts during medication "come down". Check with your doctor though as some people experience cardio vascular side effects from microdoses of psychedelics which can compound with ADHD medication.
@@gabriellewhite6194 I found that microdosing on it's own produced effects of lethargy, over contentness/satisfaction, and self-comforting when giving in to vices (being too kind to myself about over eating for example). I found a much better combination to be the microdose with a medium dose of standard ADHD Medication, it helped to reduce the side effects of anxiety (general and social), lack of appetite, emotionlessness, and depressive thoughts during medication "come down". Check with your doctor though as some people experience cardio vascular side effects from microdoses of psychedelics which can compound with ADHD medication.
Thanks for your continuing work, Dr. Barkley. I use you as a resource often to sift through a lot of the BS around ADHD that's become prevalent in the last few years.
I have diagnosed mixed ADHD and have been microdosing two different types of psychedelics at different times for my mental health. I have seen a dramatic improvement in my ADHD symptoms and have weaned off of my prescription stimulant medication. I hope there is more research done and that this becomes more accessible and accepted as a support for ADHD.
Microdosing provides calm, focus, and seems to improve my working memory. I handle stress better and my anxiety levels have improved. I am less impulsive and periods of overwhelm, burnout, and depression are less frequent, shorter duration, and easier to manage.
Do you plan on also weaning off the psychedelics? I'm interested in this but do not want to become dependent.
What do you microdose?
@@awdwadawda352 lsd and psilocybin. I primarily microdose the mushrooms because they are decriminalized where I live, but I was gifted a bottle of lsd specifically for microdosing and it really helps me on days when my depression hits hard.
@@NJ-500 no, I do not. I occasionally just stop taking them because I don’t feel like I need them and restart when I do. They are non-habit forming and don’t have any withdrawal symptoms. I use toothpaste everyday to maintain my dental health and don’t consider myself “dependent on it”. It’s the same with microdosing. Seriously.
Is it psilocybin?
I am very glad you are making a video on the subject and research. As someone who feels microdosing has helped me with my mood, I believe that way too many people see microdosing as some sort of holy grail. For me it has helped with some stuff, but I think a lot of it is because I enjoy the hobby of cultivation.
Literature so far says a LOW DOSE of acid has therapeutic effect on adult ADHD, but NOT microdosing
@johnnycarson67 shutup Ur promoting a scam
@@johnnycarson67 what's the difference between a low dose and mirco-dose?
I’ve heard many good things about psychedelics like LSD or psilocybin mushrooms and their health benefits, I also heard it helps one get through addiction and depression. I’m just wondering where I can get my hands on them cause I’ll love to give it a try. I’m passing through a state of terrible depression lately.
Research has shown psilocybin to have potent to treat a range of psychiatric and behavioral disorder.
Please how do you sources yours please?
Doc.Brent
I source from him
Despite the recent research,, there’s no realistic timeline for when,,or if, psilocybin will be approved by FDA..
Is on IG???””
You're so much more important than you currently get credit for. You deserve to be one of the men of our times.
I really appreciate this assessment of the study as empirical evidence (or lack of it). Not that psychedelic therapy can't be helpful for ADHD, it's just really important to know the specifics of research findings. And I would love to see more reliable testing and research around it!
Before I was officially diagnosed at 28 I had been a huge user of psychedelics. It was one way for me to kind of mute some of my symptoms. At the time I didn't know I had ADHD all I know is I was having trouble sleeping, I couldn't get my thoughts to stop racing, I had really bad anxiety and I was having trouble regulating my anger and emotions.
Psychedelics allows your brain time to heal, at least I found after a psychedelic trip usually LSD, for a week or so I would just feel absolutely great. I wouldn't have any of the issues that I was facing, I was able to sleep a little better, I felt like I had literally just hit the reset button and for a week or two I would feel great. Then they would gradually come back because that's how it works. It doesn't cure it just helps but the perspective gained is the biggest help
After diagnosis and medication along with CBT and mindfulness practices I still consumes psychedelics but not nearly as often.
I think one of the big things I took away from most of the psychedelic trips is it allowed me to connect with myself on an emotional level that I had never experienced before. That was just as helpful as therapy, it's better than any mindfulness practice I had ever learned.
I feel like I helped shape my intuition a little earlier than I would have gotten it. It allowed me to not only feel relief for my symptoms but it allowed me to empathize with others It allowed me to connect on a level that was bigger than myself and all of my problems and issues kind of go away for a while and with that "vacation" if you will, It's like a reset button.
Psychedelics are truly medical miracles and have so much to offer. I'm very glad people are starting to find other use for substances that for the longest time we're considered the worst of the worst drugs that you can have.
Everything should be done with the medical professional and you're going to get more therapeutic results with medical professionals but doc I promise you, there's a lot here to help people. By no means is it going to cure my ADHD. What it does is it allows me to take a third person view of life and experience an ego death, shedding that part of you holding you back, that hinders you from being the best you you can be. It's exhilarating. It's life-changing.
I stopped drinking cold turkey after a psychedelic trip on LSD. Before diagnosis I was drinking a lot to deal with my symptoms, after one psychedelic trip and some deep reflection on that I gave it up I had no desire at all to take another drink and haven't had another drink now in 3 years.
It has the ability to rewire the brain or reestablish connections that have weakened.
Again, as far as actual treatment for ADHD I don't think it is a treatment for ADHD.
It does however allow the brain to reset to a point where the behavior of the individual after that experience will be a different level of mindfulness examination of the individual. It will be its own perspective of mindfulness.
When you give yourself access to that perspective you unlock the ability for an individual to literally put mind over matter and change on the spot if they so choose. That's the only catch they got to do it themselves but give them access to the key and you will be surprised at the level of insight an individual will come out with and that refreshing perspective will completely change the way they live their life from that point on. Like being born again.
I want to mention that yes I do still consumes psychedelics even though I'm medicated, but I do not take medication for 48 hours before consuming psychedelics. It's a very rare thing but it's something I'm able to plan well ahead of time. I do not like the idea of mixing any additional chemicals with those chemicals lol
Great comment.
THIS! I wholeheartedly agree with all of your examinations here friend.
It's incredible what these trips can do to such a broad array of symptoms.
I think what's missed by medical literature is that our consciousness affects everything downstream in our bodies and minds.
Western Medicine in particular is (correctly, though limitedly) sometimes really bad at assessing what something does when they can't see the precise mechanics of what's going on under the hood.
Your subjective analysis is spot on with my experiences with macro and microdoses of these drugs.
Your consciousness affects all systems in the body. I see psychs as almost a "meta" medicine in that it brings proper awareness to the issues that need addressing, allowing you to more dispassionately address them.
A reset button is the perfect way to describe it.
@@Shinyshoesz The reason it sticks and works so well it's because it's done by choice. When you get to that level of consciousness and you're able to observe everything from a third person perspective free of judgment and without bias.
It's simply is.
When you see that for yourself it is much more impactful than having someone guide you to that point. That's why most people who have major life changes after a psychedelic trip are able to approach that which they fear most look at in the eye and accept it.
Within that instant, it's done. It works that quickly. Not everyone is going to get it that quickly and not everyone would be able to get it on their own. Some individuals would require medical assistance and some people's body just cannot take the side effects that come with taking LSD. I've taken macro doses and that's usually where I stood about 10 times what everyone else eats.
I was getting so much from psychedelics that I wanted to push my own consciousness as far as I could so I would take 10 strips every time I would dose. The most I ever taken one sitting was 18 paper hits and about 3 and 1/2 of liquid in a vial.
In that time I learned how my body reacted to the chemical. I learned how the purge can be one of the most underrated things when you take a large dose of LSD. You're going to either poop your brains out or vomit and if you do you're going to feel a million times better as soon as you finish. Lol
I had to regulate my body temperature in showers and to make sure I drink plenty of water. Put what I was able to accomplish in those windows of time was worth everything that I was experiencing physically It was the mental cleansing and insight that I was after.
I have Aphantasia, and what I experienced visually is more outward than in. I've always found it really difficult to have any meaningful closed eye visuals Even in incredibly high doses I barely get anything but think Windows screensaver 2008 lol.
But on the outside with eyes open I had visions of things I had never seen before with my own eyes and it's amazing what it does for someone like me but for someone who can actually have a mental image I can only imagine how intense those images must be!
@@ThatADHDKid Absolutely.
And dang! Kudos to you for enduring that high of dosages.
I haven't been brave enough or in the right situation to undergo that heavy of a dosage though I do think in right time and space in the future I definitely will.
My max is 2 tabs right now but I'm extraordinarily sensitive to any drug anyways so I still have had some of the experiences of which you speak -- wonderful, mind-altering experiences and visions that have led me to understand there's a lot more going on than meets the eye.
I'm so glad it has been such a transformative experience for you. :)
Just saw a doctor yesterday about ADHD thanks to you. It’s good to know I’m not hopeless.
Well done! Wishing you health and happiness.
I really appreciate the translation and very concise break down of this type of information. Great content.
Brazilian ADHD here, dr. Barkley.
I took some microdoses of psilocybe cubensis and, in certain doses (200-400 mg), it seems to help with mindfulness, while larger doses (+600 mg) start to have cosmic and mystical effects. I only used it a few times for anxiety and depression, but after my team diagnosed me with ADHD, I started taking sertraline, bupropion and methylphenidate. I say that psilocybe cubensis has an effect similar to that of methylphenidate, but much more intense, euphoric and much more visually colorful. *PLEASE: I DON'T WANT TO PROMOTE DRUGS. IT'S JUST MY EXPERIENCE!*
(I used the translator to write this, so forgive me if there are any errors).
Finalmente um brasileiro aqui!
Muito daora irmão.. mas hoje em dia você já largou a micro dosagem? Estou pensando em começar para o meu TDAH, não me identifico com os remédios convencionais e os efeitos colaterais..
@@grower014 Salve, cara. Parei, sim, com a microdosagem. Misturar com remédios pode ser fatal. Estou agora somente em metilfenidato e bupropiona. No início, não me adaptei com Ritalina L.A. 20 mg, pois estava muito ansioso, e eu já tomava bupropiona. Depois, tentei metilfenidato genérico 10 mg e me adaptei muito bem. Ao invés de ansiedade, eu ficava era relaxado, tranquilo, sem me mexer demais. Pretendo voltar com a microdose só quando eu sair da CLT e tiver mais liberdade pra mim. No momento, os remédios estão sendo mais precisos pra evitar problemas no trabalho. Eu desenvolvi uma sensibilidade maior pra microdose, então já sinto bastante com 400 mg.
The warning at the bottom is very important, it seems like you are in a rabbithole of medication and that is one of the main reasons I'm hesitant to start a microdose.
@@NJ-500 Yeah, man!
You need to be very careful, as your mental state influences the neuroplasticity that microdosing can consolidate for you. Good practices during the state of neuroplasticity caused by mushrooms can promote good results, but this should be done with great care. I am on bupropion and methylphenidate today due to work demands. As a welder, I wouldn't risk a substance that made me see galaxies during those welding flashes and ended up interfering with my work. Haha...
@@wendelsantana2190 aren’t you supposed to have no visual effects when microdosing? I believe you were taking a too high dose.
Thank you for speaking on this. I would guess that if microdosing has any efficacy for reducing ADHD sxs, that it would be far greater when microdosing with LSD or a phenethylamine, rather than with psilocybin or other tryptamines.
As you said, it'd be wonderful to see some double-blind placebo studies, yet that seems unlikely as funding seems to be a likely barrier in addition to regulatory hurdles. (As I understand it, these molecules aren't able to be patented beyond novel delivery systems, which reduces pharmaceutical companies capacity to recoup R&D expenses.)
Also, fun trivia fact, Albert Hofmann (the creator of LSD and first synthesizer of psilocybin) also speculated that his "problem child" [LSD] may have utility as an alternative to traditional stimulants for managing ADHD.
Dr. Barkley, thank you for outputting the enormous amount of very interesting video's on this channel, I'm sure i'm not the only one here that consumes each and every video the moment you release them. I've re-watched the lecture you gave in Toronto in 2009 ('The 30 essential ideas about ADHD' one) multiple times, in which you talked about the possibility of genotyping ADHD patients in the (near) future for better insight in medication response. I'm curious about your thoughts on the current state of genotyping for ADHD.
@9:04 It sounds like you give the journalists the benefit of the doubt in them "not picking up on these nuances" etc but I feel like they can do better. Thank you for sharing your perspective and keeping us educated Dr Barkley!
Great that you are covering this, and love the honesty about the nature of the publications and results. Finally got a doctor here in canada and she knows of your work! So pleased with that. I microdosed decades I knew I had ADHD or even heard of microdosing and found it to be the only way I could gain any control over time and my severe lack of executive function. However, I never could get the dosage right nor stay consistent with it as there would be about five to ten minutes where I could feel a buzzy effect and disliked the sensation, though after it would settle down and work well. Because of that, I would under dose it often and take too little. That said, I dont like the feeling of stimulants kicking in either and usually split my dose of vyvanse to avoid it but at least the dosages are consistent.
Psychedelic's definitely have potential to deal with mental health symptoms like anxiety and depression,I would like to try them again but it's just so hard to source here
Love this.I battle from depression, anxiety &C-PTSD,I've heard shrooms cured depression. Wish doctors were more open to natural medicines over big pharma but we know why
trip_vardy
Got psychedelics
I had a moment on my first mushroom trip where I was lying in bed and lost total connection to my physical body.I felt as I was just a dot of energy on my pillow such a crazy feeling and made me smile, really realized that we are really nothing but energy and had an overwhelming feeling from that trip
One of my best experience in my life was doing LSD and writing a paper on my interpretation of God and how the universe works,it was amazing and I got an A in college class of comparative religion
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"Psychedelics had a very large impact in the 1960s. But in a way it was never anchored to anything, it was never explained to anybody by anybody, how it fit into the historical context of what preceded it. It was presented as an exploration of the contents of the personality with a little bit of overflow into aesthetic issues. And even back then it was clear that this was simply the room where you wipe off your shoes and hang your hat." - Terence McKenna
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Thanks Dr. Barkley. As much as your analysis of strictly ADHD topics, I think your example of critical thinking applied to any topic is much needed today. Maybe you could begin teaching the general public about critical thinking and the the scientific method in general? Just a thought. Thanks again.
Exactly
a video like that is needed
agreed
There is a tremendous need for this! It’s kinda frightening.
Thank you, Doctor! You’re a hero !
I swear, everytime I start thinking about or researching a topic, you seem to also be reading about it haha. Keep it up
Always a pleasure to see your videos in my feed 🙂
@@meekmanhushkain7917 I might be missing some context here. I’m not sure I understand your reply to my original comment.
The retention rate seems to speak ADHD lol
Hey doc thank you for your continued efforts! I wish the world cared like you! I've been prescribed medicine since I was 7 years old and My insurance got changed without me being able to have a So say in that and my new doctor is awful and the waiting list for additional doctors is 6 months plus! My new doctor doesn't believe in adhd I have showed her your videos and she seems to listen for a second then tells me I need to be doing CBT therapy for ADHD because medicines Dont help and cause bad side effects and people with ADHD just need to learn coping skills! I tried to tell her there is clear irrefutable evidence on the effects of the medicine, and how it helps and she just says “mhhhmmmm” in an undermining voice and then goes on to talk not listening to me or acknowledging me! I have recently lost my job and got into legal trouble because of the withdralws of not having my medicine ontop of the extreme difficulties that come with unmedicated adhd and due to losing my job lost my counselor and I haven't had a family I speak too in 5 years because my therapist pointed out how they were toxic which is true but my point is I'm left with no support system and no help and feel hopeless and feel like the only way to get my doctor or anyone to believe me and how bad I need help is to show them through an extreme example because I've tried everything else! I've been so nice and presented evidence to show her your videos etc I have cried in front of her because I'm anxious because my life is falling apart and I need my medicine!
She told me I should go see a adhd specific doctor or psychiatrist and I said I would and have looked desperately but my insurance is not the best and the only doctors/psychiatrist my insurance is not the best and the only doctors availible is on a 6-month waiting list and that includes specialists/psychiatrists and even regular doctors! She said she believes adhd is a trauma issue and has heard other doctors say that and she believes in handling things in a way where you Dont have to rely on medicine and I said I wish I could not have to rely on medicine! When I was little and put on the medicine I didn't want to take it but as I got older and realized how much it helped me I decided to continue to take it and now without it I am falling apart! Idk what to do I feel hopeless and feel like this is why tragedies happen and people do very bad things to make big statements in regards to mental health because no one listens to them or cares and they are slowly losing everything they have and dying slowly essentially! I know saying dying slowly sounds extreme but it's not! If I become homeless because of this due to medical conditions I have I will absolutely die sleeping on the street! So why do I choose to continue to go forward? Just to suffer till I die? Because where is hope or help? I have looked at moving to a different state so I can see a doctor and get the help I need!
But now that I lost my job and my counselor and now owe money to my counselor as well as other financial issues that come with adhd and forgetting everything etc especially if unmedicated and btw my doctor didn't ween me off the medicine either she took me off of Vyvanse 40 mg cold turkey! My brain has been fucked up since! Please help doc is there any doctors taking clients? Thank you and I'm not giving on my life yet or anything but just simply venting atm and still hopelessly trying!!!!!
Hi, i am so sorry to hear that. I have had undiagnosed ADHD and just last year, in my late 30s, i was diagnosed. I lost many jobs and relationships due to my ADHD. Plus I also suffered sleep Apnea, I couldn't sleep well, because of a congestion in my nose. I went under radiofrequency surgery, and things got worse, much worse than before, the doctor says you are ok don't worry. I went to four specialists and they all say you are ok, every thing is normal. Imagine I couldn't sleep for three or four nights in a row, at the same time I had to work hard, which required alertness and a good mood. A few weeks ago I started microdosing for one month, then after a few weeks I took a strong dose of psilocybin(fresh magic truffles). I highly recommend not to start with a high dose. I took it with an experienced friend besides me, taking care of me. And... it was a real game changer. I cannot say it directly improved my focus and attention and reduced my brain fog, but, it gave me motivation to build strong relationship with people around me, it gave me enough mental and physical energy to do exercise again(after almost two years), eat more healthily and properly, quit taking too much sugar, and you know, It gradually changed my lifestyle, which in the end resulted in a decrease in my ADHD symptoms. I still have breathing problem, but the anxiety and depression is almost gone. The only thing that I can recommend is to begin with lower doses and not to jump into strong trips.
Microdosing Psilocybin vs LSD is also reported to be very different.
I discovered I have ADHD later and live and just started med a year ago. I also started microdoseing. I can tell you between both of them My life is 1000X better! Microdosing help me overcome alot along with ADHD meds
Whats ur schedule , every third day?
Thank you for doing the work! Appreciate you!
Thanks for this intriguing little video. Research in this area is so fascinating, I hope to see more done.
Anecdotally (Diagnosed at 29 with ADHD), over a decade ago I tripped on mushrooms and I felt VERY good mentally for weeks after use. I felt a lot of the same clarity in thought I feel now on Atomoxetine as well as a massive reduction in anxiety. I always wondered what it was about them that did this, but I hadn't thought about that experience since my diagnosis.
Judging by my own experience and so many others' I see online regarding this- it's hard not to get the sense that something must be there. The answers to those questions would surely have beneficial answers to our scientific understanding of this group of disorders.
LSD/Mush are the most powerful anti inflammatory known to man by thousands of %
So powerful they affect the Amygdala
what's the Amygdala, Well the bigger it gets the more autistic you are
therefore the smaller it gets the less autistic you are
which is why i have spent my life drinking LSDTEA
there are trillions of molecules in 100ug of LSD
for some reason you only need one molecule, its like a word, a deflamme order biologically speaking
and this affect does not build tolerance
Shhh its a secret, we wrote all the religions about it
Thank you for analyzing the research. I am skeptical about microdosing in general. Is it mind altering, a magical solution for the daily work of building new neural pathways, does it address the right neurotransmitters. Since most psychedelics have a stimulant quality to them one could say they could help ADHD but that’s a small effect compared to the perceptual alteration, so the jury, as you say, is out.
I would forget to take it on schedule and definitely forget to turn in the surveys.
Pure analogy based on a handful of experiences of an undiagnosed impulsive teen nearly 30 years ago at doses that were not micro; research should be done on treatment resistant depression in people with ADHD.
The day after the few times poor judgement and opportunity aligned were some of the most positive young adult moments in memory. Increased mindfulness for sure. Low mood was gone. In the moment the doses were absolutely overwhelming but the day after was a day without the usual overwhelm felt daily. Calm, peaceful, present, and joyful instead of surly, distracted, withdrawn, and sad.
10/10 still don’t recommend because I was incredibly lucky and it was incredibly foolish and dangerous to experiment.
Hopefully the FDA will get on board the research train and ensure safe and reliable prescription forms are available, at the very least for research purposes. It would be nice to know if good evidence can be found to back up my experiences.
In continuation to the videos about Caffeine and Nicotine, are there any research papers about the effect of Theanine on ADHD?
I have ADHD as well as trigeminal neuralgia(Facial nerve pain on the right side). After only a month the benefits are noticeable even without the use of traditional meds. What amazed me was how much it help bear the weight of the TN after five year is agony.
I hope you get better from your TN. I had a student that had it and it was just terrible. I hope microdosing helps. She got botox injection which helped a bit. How she was managing doing a very difficult a vet degree I don't know.
Clear explanations.
I was particularly interested in this video Dr Barkley, last year I applied for a psilocybin treatment with our friend Gabor Mate doing the supportive therapy over in Holland. It was for PTSD primarily. I duly filled out the forms truthfully and based on my aces being too high, I was refused a place. Perhaps it was for the best but I'm really not that bad and certainly not out of control in anyway. It wasn't for research as far as I knew. It still smacked of cherry picking people who perhaps were very mild in their trauma history.
A very good and close friend, of several years, went on that course and enjoyed. However, it upended her life and it doesn’t seem she’s any happier as a result of the course & retreat.
Both my friend and several of the other people on the retreat had significant amounts for trauma. Mate did not attend the the retreat in the Netherlands that was at the end of the course.
My friend has since disappeared into what sounds on many levels like an addictive, and possibly toxic, romantic relationship with someone she met on the retreat. She’s since completely withdrawn and ceased contact from several people, including me.
From everything she said it sounded she benefited far more from EMDR and then IFS therapy
I microdosed psilocybin alongside taking Strattera. It helped my depression and anxiety, helped me be more agreeable and accepting of annoying things, but didn’t touch my adhd symptoms. I have not felt like microdosing again since adding guanfacine bc the medication helps with emotional regulation.
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I am reading your book, the ADHD handbook for diagnosis and Treatment.
The 4th edition was released in 2014.
Do you think that it is still up to date, and if not, is it still worth the reading?
As someone with ADHD and a lot of recreational experience with psychedelics mainly LSD, I can say that their isn't any change with symptoms. Except some temporary relief from a depressive episode, it was twenty years ago so it's hard say how long it kept depression at bay. I can say that it does build up in the body and that can cause some mental anguish so be careful it can end up being a rough ride.
Though I’m not particularly hopeful, I sure hope they find something to mushrooms+ADHD.
Mushrooms are easily the most exciting drugs being researched. They do a lot to influence all sorts of brain activity and I’m eager to hear more updates.
I’m wondering about sleep: melatonin, L-tryptophan, blue light, bed wetting in older kids, and night terrors in young kids.
Also, exercise in elementary age kids.
So long as it isn't detrimental, since I hope to find a psych in Australia somewhere that might let me try micro dosing for my depression. I'm currently in the "what's the point I'll never get better" hopeless pit and am wondering if treating enough of the depression will make all the hard work seem worthwhile.
Psychedelics have definitely had a positive impact on my mental health. They've been really helpful for me in dealing with anxiety and depression.
I've been looking to try some recently, but I can't find anywhere to source.
Psychedelic mushrooms completely helped me get out of addiction and depression. It totally rewired my mind. Honestly, they worked better than antidepressants.
Can dr.scottshrooms post to me in PA?
Of course, he delivers anywhere, and discreetly as well
Psychedelic mushrooms healed me from severe ptsd that I suffered for years. Truly magical
Microdosing has helped me quit drinking alcohol, has helped with depression, has helped with self awareness, and anxiety
@@Kayla_dickerson easy to create my own too
psychedelics offered me a kind birdseye understanding of my life - thus, a new, kinder lens.
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i have severe ADHD. i was undiagnosed for 50 years, the last 8 years were horrible. it took psilocybin get me back to close to normal. so far it's the only thing that temporary relieves all my symptoms for 14 - 25 hrs. im now on 4 ADHD meds and I'm not back to functional yet - but i am much closer. if psilocybin works for you, you have low serotonin. unfortunately, SSRIs have so many side effects.
Dr Barkley, would it be possible for you to make a video on sleep (theta wave) intrusion? I recently learned about this and it explains a lot about problems I have when doing tasks I am not engaged in, and it's difficult for me to find or understand research studies on the phenomenon.
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Small doses of THC gummies are enough for me to balance out my Autism and ADHD. It’s a lot easier to focus on right hemisphere activities with a little help.
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I took about a bag of shrooms over the span of a month every morning and the rate of progress with my goals noticably increased. About halfway through the month I was taking about a gram a day. This is too much to be considered a microdose but it acted as one because of my tolerance.
Other than the usual psychadelic affects. For me, I feel it made my routines easier to do and just made the day more smoother and communication with others had this golden feel to it. Your mind will clear itself. It felt like I was going somewhere. As opposed to having feeling like youre living the same day everyday. This was around the time I was also introduced to Paul Staments. I got Diagnosed last year year but this was about 3 years ago, when I just started researching and getting curious about ADHD.
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I second this, similar experience. Although way less often and smaller dose. Highly positive experience on other co occuring conditions.
I'm trying microdosing for ADHD and mild depression but it either makes me feel no less distracted at all or worse, it makes me feel tired and drugged, what's up with that??
Mushrooms/ fungus , are some of the earliest life forms on earth . They're quite fascinating
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WE need studies about that. I think LSD (maybe Shrooms) can help to focus when using them MD. I think it is difficult to make a study for MD anyway if they use 20 mcg what is noticeable even though not tripping. Anyway, in this case I would suggest to have not a placebo instead but a common medicine as Vyvanse. Probably it only works if the clients haven't used the substances before. Anyway, I think it is even with MD difficult to have a placebo instead. My subjective experience with MD-LSD. It's another focus lense as ADHD medicine. I feel not as focused on one subject but having a better general view on things. Feel generally more motivated and it feels more natural. Anyway, I use it every third day, I slightly feel it as I feel Vyvanse slightly. I don't mix them together anymore but take one day pause from Vyvanse - that works good for me. Anyway, depending on what I have to do I might variate a bit.
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I was microdosing my Ritalin IR 2.5mg every hour. Worked amazing. But it was unconventional and I was labelled a drug addict. Doctors don’t won’t give me IR anymore lol. But XR sucks for people who take low doses and fast metabolism. They rather me get zooted out my mind on high doses once or twice a day lol.
Wouldn't it be great if doctors actually treated us like people that know our own bodies and not like drug addicts?
Maybe this is why I split my vyvanse dose into smaller amounts. I have a fast metabolism and dont like the feeling of it kicking in.
Looking back I now realize I have some form of ADHD. I must admit ever since I did a megadose on shrooms I’ve felt like it changed my life. I’ve almost reprogrammed my mind I could say. I feel much more present which is probably my biggest take away.
Psychedelics is how I discovered that I have ADHD.
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but this study’s design may be due to the restrictive nature of psychedelic research. These results may pave the way for ACTUAL studies.
I have paradoxical effect of most medicines. I haven't heard much about other people experiencing this. I would like to know how common it is. I can't even take a benadryl without akathesia.
If by that you also mean that sleeping meds make you stay awake and stimulants calm you, I've been the same since I can remember and it's a strange phenomenon that few seem to understand including doctors, who treat me like a liar often.
@@DivineLightPaladin This has been the same for me all my life too. Pre surgery sedatives got me sitting up chattering excessively as a kid.
Dr. Barkley, thank you for being so dedicated to sifting through the BS that surrounds ADHD. As a person who has been off medication since I was 13, because things like Adderall made me feel like a zombie, I've always been searching for alternative methods of treatment for my ADHD. I have been micro-dosing since I was 19 years old, and I'm 26 now. I can tell you without a doubt that what you are saying is true and hold weight. I hope you get more traction and become a popular person for many people like me to come too for guidance. Thank you again, Dr. Barkley!
I have ADHD and depression , I took them when I was younger . I don't recall suffering from depression back then, But I'm curious to see what a micro dose would do , If it would improve my symptoms without distorting my judgement
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Somewhere, the text says ’macrodosing’ …. a mistake ??
"Nope" - Terrence McKenna
As if a typo is going to stop me from doing science 😎
I lost my compulsive buy after 2 MDMA pills on a chill evening with good friends (never took other drugs than alcool, weed cofee and sugar) , I felt nothing the day I took it but I felt changes the days after, I didn't relapse into compulsive buying since, I don't even have to fight the urge to buy, I completely lost it ^^
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Tried it before. Didn´t help me personally at all. Pretty much like any (in most western countries illicit) substances I tried, either the dose was too small to have any verifiable effect, or it does have an effect especially when not micro dosing, but really is more of recreational use, than anything else. Based on personal experience I heavily doubt there´s a substance based magical solution out there, that hasn´t some sort of trade off.
Scientifically there is almost certainly a substance based solution that is in fact "magical" in it's efficacy, the problem is nobody has determined how to figure out what exactly it is yet.
But we know all ADHD is is an imbalance of chemicals which is far more easily rectified than many other mental disorders and means without a doubt, it can actually be rectified with a "perfect dose" of the right chemicals to bring you into balance.
Perhaps someone will invent a machine in the future that determines exactly how much medication you need (ex. you need EXACTLY 23.46 mg of Vyvanse to be normal) or something. That would help tremendously.
Did you take it on a empty stomach? And what was your dose? Taking it on a empty stomach makes allot of difference, and having the right intentions when taking it..
I'd rather stick with the stimulants. I don't want to be a guinea pig if stimulants are sufficient treatment.
That said, I am worried about how long I can be on stimulants. Will my doctor want to prescribe it when I'm 70 years old? Probably not. So I'm supportive of further research, even if it means ruling things out officially.
IDK how old you are but I got booted off pretty fast. Only a decade and they stopped allowing it so I had to look elsewhere.
Personally, the experiences helped me a lot. But I'm also one that wouldn't have turned in the survey in time because I'm also chasing other types of joy like creating art and surveys aren't as fun.
@@DivineLightPaladin survey?
@@DivineLightPaladin Yeah, the sad part of this is the age part. I have a friend in his eighties with massive ADHD who buys a tiny bit of meth with his pension and spreads it out over the month so he can function enough to pay his bills on time and get his groceries. Ive talked to him about having ADHD, to which he agrees, but its clearly pointless for him to be seen by doctor as they will dismiss treatment in his case over age but yet, he resorts to a dodgy supply of inferior drugs. This is in the land of harm reduction, BC canada, where small amounts of street drugs are legal but doctors are reluctant to write prescriptions for ADHD.
I have thought of that too but I hope they will discover something new in the coming years...maybe stimulants with less side effects?Then again the adhd drugs are really really old.Methylphenidate was discovered in 1940s and amphetamines in 1920s.All they managed to do since then is change the delivery mechanisms 😢.Who knows?Maybe God will bless me to live at an old age taking blood pressure meds along with the stimulants 😅
If mushrooms truly cause neural plasticity to increase, and if ADHD is truly a chemical valve control issue between neurons, then yes. Paired with close therapy and guidance, mushrooms can be useful.
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44 is too low of a base for even a survey. We would not do analysis on bases lower than 50 when I worked in Market Research.
Yes and for something with a mental disorder, in which people are prone to tons of outliers, I think it should really be 5,000 people not 50.
Reading the title, I thought it had to be far too early for any kind of research paper to be concluding anything about psychedelics. Makes sense that's not what has been published. A light survey of anecdata is all.
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Could anyone give me an answer to the question about tolerancia for LSD micro doses?
Do i really need to increase the dosage rapidly just to gain the Same effect? Or do i Keep the dosage steady?
The nhs in the uk have started making people trip to help with depression but cannabis is so taboo i also have epilepsy and have asked my neurologist to put me on a canabis trial but its a couple a year and the waiting list is long.
Ridiculous when we've had it for years in the US and it's been proven over and over to help everyone who tried it instantly. I pray your laws get updated soon, UK citizens deserve access to cannabis and plant medicine in general especially given the shortages, no one should be suffering with nothing at all to help! ❤🙏
Find a way to do it by yourself, don’t rely on the state
Collect some data, look at it several different ways, publish a number of fluff papers in journals - maybe you might get some funding to investigate further - repeat - you might have a better chance of better funding - repeat and repeat. Ten years later you might get decent funding to do a proper study. As most psychedelics are still schedule one drugs making progress in such proper research is a long way off.
Meanwhile those of us that think it helps us will continue self medication as we may feel the need.
I think I will try it anyways just to see how it effects me.
Big pharma can toss right off
Mushrooms have helped me more then any pill
"mindfulness" has been severely distorted by pop sci :(. I'm a Theravadan Buddhist, and in the material the term originates from, mindfulness means being able to keep useful things in mind. Non-judgment is part of equanimity, not mindfulness, and the Buddha's teachings make it clear that equanimity, unlike mindfulness (the correct definition, that is) is not appropriate at all times. To be a skillful person in the world, you need to be able to judge and compare things. Also "mindfulness" in pop sci has been used to mean other things too. It's a real shame.
Problem for me is controlling impulses, if i had these in the house o would defo abuse them.
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If microdosing were actually so effective then why would the patients taking it be continuing to repeat microdosing for months and years as it common?
I would imagine that it's treating the symptoms, not curing the disorder. Like prescription medication.
Maintenance dose. Sometimes you can mess yourself up right back into disorder, or rather, life kinda happens.
We need to build community... all this self medicating is kinda alarming.
Interesting, how does this kind of study get approved for publish?? I am a bit lazy (hey my fellow adhd crew) so when I see a journal I just assume there is a solid level of legitimacy. Oop.
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A concrete conclusion would be "and a 100% of ADHA patients filled in the survey". Bingo!
Would be good if there was a proper study. I'm sceptical about use for ADHD, there's no way it should help really but who knows.
Also would be good if journos stopped misinforming the public for clicks but they never will
10:05 You could have said "Take the headlines with a microdose of salt"
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Dubious self reporting? placebo ? and what is microdosing anyhow ??
...If a dose is below the effective threshold then it's ineffective by definition 😂😂😂
Good God RB is being generous and gentle here
It's below the threshold of expected effect at the "assumed high/normal" dose.
Which would clearly at least to me, be below the level of visible psychoactive affect.
Many think that just because you're not seeing squiggles means it's not doing anything so the dose isn't high enough. That's how the idea came to be, to take lower than that "squiggly" level, that was once assumed to have no other effects because the scientists were only looking for "squiggles" per se.
Hope that helps.
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Whats wrong with the sentence "improving extroversion"? 🤔 That it's not clear what an improvement in this genre would even be? Less - more?? There is nothing wrong with being introvert. There is nothing wrong with being extrovert 🤷♀️
From my experience I would take it as perhaps meaning to increase extroversion in those who are otherwise normally introverted. Nothing wrong with either, you're right. So a change from one to the other may not be a bad thing, depending on how the person themselves views it.
I am more sociable than I used to be and would not say that is a bad thing. It seems more fluid and less... Difficult. Therefore the change to me was positive.
Can you get to the point. Those of us with ADHD are having a hard time listening to this.
Psilocybin Mushrooms and Psychedelics are very beneficial to humans and it has really helped ease my anxiety and depression also people with health issues you can get them from the below specialist details can also guide you if you're a newbie to it?
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Microdosing psilocybin does nothing for my ADHD, i really wish it would but it just doesn't work. Most of this stuff is just wishful thinking imo.
Psilocybin Mushrooms and Psychedelics are very beneficial to humans and it has really helped ease my anxiety and depression also people with health issues you can get them from the below specialist details can also guide you if you're a newbie to it?
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You know what's weird. I recently, like last week, did the test for adhd with my doc and she confirmed it. About a year ago I had an opportunity to buy some microdose shrooms and I got some on a whim. The first dose completely changed my whole way of thinking. I thought I had found a cure for my depression and PTSD(I'm a retired police officer). But now, since this new diagnosis I cant help but think the miraculous fog I felt lift when I took those mushrooms was because it helped out my adhd. I stopped taking them after the one little bottle I had, some part of me thought it was not a good idea to take it all the time, or that it was illegal. I dunno, my brain makes up its own mind without my input lol. I think I might look for more to try.