Whatever happened to everybody playing Jackson's? at least they think of us little guys with beer budgets....yeah b.c. rich don't do the AFFORDABLE thing anymore and fuck any guitar co. That don't!! Money grubbers man,,,,everybody.
I'm a BC Rich collector and a huge fan of the brand, and I actually hate how this company has been run in the last 10 - 15 years. It just makes me wonder what kind of glue they sniff at the headquarters, because literally all you have to do is listen to your customer and fan base and make good instruments. Why is that so hard, and why is the management of their promotional media so sloppy and poor? :(((
Not a collector. I don't feel like I need multiple guitars. But they used to be pretty good. I guess maybe I'm lucky I got one when I did...I have a late 90s platinum series warlock & it's not a bad guitar as is, but I upgraded a few things (changing the junk trem it came with made the biggest improvement) & it's been my main guitar for 24/25 years. I've played dozens of other guitars over that time, either just messing around or recording at home or in pro studios, some of which cost up to 10x what my warlock originally retailed for ($650-700) & I actually prefer my warlock over almost all of them. One time the engineer accidentally erased my guitar track on a song & I didn't bring my warlock to the studio because I was done recording my parts. I used a "several thousand $" Les Paul to rerecord my parts that were erased. Of everyone who's heard the album, no one but the few of us who were in the studio can tell a difference. Part of one of my erased tracks happened a minute or two into a song & instead of doing the whole thing over, I just punched in where the engineer screwed up...which gives an excellent opportunity to A/B my warlock against a guitar that costs much more & has better pickups & everything. Barely noticeable. So they used to be fine guitars in my opinion. But I've only played platinum series or better. Can't speak for the bronze series. But they used to make good guitars. I'll continue to play & record with my 25-ish years old platinum warlock until I can't or, science forbid, something irreparable happens to it.
@@MichaelD8393 Their guitars are impossible to find, moreso than Gibson's. Their prices are expensive, their QC is shit, they haven't evolved since the 70s (at least Gibson tries to innovate), and they have zero presence in the guitar world aside from Tame Impala.
@@supernintendo182 Ah, all valid points, okay, you've convinced me. Though B.C. Rich is still worse than Gibson & Rickenbacker combined for what they supposedly did to Iconic Guitars; at least Gibson & Rickenbacker haven't done anything like that as far as we know So to me, the "Top 3 worst guitar companies" podium goes like this: 🥇B.C. Rich 🥈Rickenbacker 🥉Gibson
It would be great if they just change the headstock and sell them by themselves. B.C.Rich can't claim them as counterfeits, because they handed the designs and literally order them to make them. What they refused to do is to sell them. I for one would love to buy one, since it would help a company that deserves it and above else - it doesn't have the cursed logo on it.
Hey, that logos the best part!!.....my heroes growing up:Kerry king,,trey azagthoth,,,and Tom g. Warrior in the wine in my hand video😅 teased and hair sprayed mop and all.😉🤣🤣 jk with ya bro,,,but I always did like the cursive b.c signature head stocks.
@@Debbie-e2ethat's the logo I like too. & Luckily mine has the cursive logo on the headstock. & Luckily I have an older model (1999 I think) when they still made good guitars. & Even though mine is a platinum series, after a few upgrades (the tremolo making the biggest improvement) it's a damn fine guitar. I've played dozens of other guitars over the years, & this is still my main guitar all that time.
there is a solid black warlock in stranger things. its in 1 scene, its what eddies guitar looks like before they go to the upside down. its just hanging on the wall
With all the turmoil at BC Rich, I'm definitely going to Neal Moser when it comes time to order my custom bass later this year or early next year. The Virgin, the shape I want most, was a Moser design to begin with, he offers it as the Scythe. Though I haven't seen a Scythe from the shop lately...
Here is the best advice I can give you. Don't buy a Moser that isn't ready to ship. If you put in a custom order there is a good chance that you will never see your guitar. Neal Moser's back order is extensive with all the down payments long gone. The company is likely gonna fail before the orders get fulfilled. Not to mention Neal is frail and close to 80 years old.
Great recap of the situation, thanks for sharing, very unfortunate, hoping the best for Iconic Guitars. There is some nostalgia for BC Rich, historic company and sad to see how they have been running it. Slash was always a big fan, and he has a good classic BC Rich collection.
The BC Rich custom shot was killing it under Ron Estrada before Bill took over and ruined everything. They don't even know how to build a proper BC Rich and if you try to give constructive criticism they ban you or insult you.
@@craigdobson9068 agreed, zach gunter took over as ceo for neal moser guitars and he is KILLING it, they are doing very well, so neal is back doing custom builds for bc rich, and yet again KILLING it from what ive seen. yet like what @deviltronix said above, bill seems to be destroying bc rich, wish rico Jr. or joey rico would step up and get it back to how it was. or hell, even if estrada or crabtree would do that too.
I would assume doing business in California had as much to do with this as BC Rich. Plus, never have anyone not cover materials costs up front. I'm a cabinet maker and NEVER start a job without a 50% deposit. That way if I get stiffed I don't owe anything to suppliers.
Careful, Dave Cohen will have a heart attack on video again 😂 Also i heard when they changed hands that Zoltan was the owner and Bill Xavier was the guy running it
@infinidominion really? I could swear I saw a post of his massive leftie collection only a couple of days ago. I thought he didn't have much to do with it and then there the drama that he claimed Glen Graff stole his bridge master idea, very shouty man.
@infinidominion I'm not sure, I'm in loads of BC Rich groups so can't remember which one but I remembered it because he had the only leftie skull and crossbones CC Deville guitar.
@@craigdobson9068 i don't he had any presence on any except Junkies which he did create. I was going to buy his 7strimg warlock in 2019 but was pretty sure he died in the past year, then actual notable figures came out publicly letting us know more details of how crazy he was, which we kind of already knew anyway
This is why i only buy pre owned B.C. Rich guitars. So none of my money goes towards the company... that and i cant afford and will never pay the prices for a brand new one
Iconic hooked me up with a 7 string in short notice for a gig of mine. They are such a great group of guys and it's very unfortunate what B.C Rich has done.
Own a Shredzilla Prophecy Exotic 7 String Multiscale with Fishmens, Hipshot, Killswitch got it used in mint condition for 700$ honestly plays almost as good as my S1.7 Solar and N7FX Legator. Sounds and plays as good as most of my 6 strings as well and I have a bunch of great guitars. Don't know if id ever get one new through the company but I'm beyond happy to own that Guitar. Spalted maple finish... she turns heads for sure.
Working on it, but January isn't exactly the time to be uploading banger videos cause of the garbage views and ad revenue around this time of year. Killer stuff coming up in February
Can't ESP or someone serious just buy their designs already ? I really wanna support them for keeping the pointy ethos alive but them not giving a shit about the european market makes never want to do that.
@@pauln6803My problem with ESP is their pricing/branding. $2000 will get you a Fender American Professional II series or PRS S2 series guitar or a Gibson SG, but now LTDs are creeping up to this price. $3000 will get you a Gibson Les Paul Standard...ESP will still brand you a peasant with the E-II label for that price.
I’d be happy if BCR could simply stop royally fucking up and just go back to the way things were. Give us all the shapes including the Beast and tone down the insane pricing. It’s not like there isn’t a market.
I so wanted one of those Stranger Things guitars until I started watching the reviews. I would've been pissed had I bought one before I saw the reviews.
i am pretty new to guitar and started learning not long ago, which are the most well received brands? i plan on getting a new guitar in april for my 18th birthda, wich brands do you reccomend? from what i 've heard esp, schecter seem pretty good
When you look at lower priced Schecters be sure to check fret positions on the scale or have someone check it for you. We've had several come through the shop with some pretty nasty errors in the build.
Not a BC Rich fanboy I do have a couple of BC Rich guitars I have core PRS's & Gibson historics also I purchased a new BC Rich neck through Legacy Bich at the beginning of the year that guitar is solid love the new DiMarzio pickups and the fret radius wish I would have not picked it up but once I got it in my hands it's my main player right now
This is not allegedly, BC Rich 100% screwed Iconic over. I sold every BC Rich I had due to this. I went to school with the owner of Iconic (Kevin Proctor), since I have known him, he has NEVER once ever lied to me. They are moving their operations to Nashville, TN due to operating costs in Cali. Kevin is now selling some of his personal guitars, and selling off the secret stash of Iconic guitars that they have. Kevin very well could have helped BC Rich, now he should not do a damn thing for those sob's.
I almost want a B.C. Rich now. Not because I like them or want to play them, but just because I want the bragging rights to say I own a guitar from one of the biggest skid mark guitar companies out there, 2nd best to TTM. haha
I use to like BC rich guitars, but they're not comfortable, not versatile, not good looking, not particularly well made, and unfortunately not a company I would want to support. Gross. Good video though!
You should absolutely check out their higher end stuff. Because NGL even tho the company is a nightmare now the quality of the stuff they recently put out is really damn good especially in it's price range for imports. It's the crappy bronze and platinum series stuff that just annihilated the brands reputation in the last 20+ years. It's a bit as if the only thing we would know esp for is the LTD 50 series.
Bc rich made some of my favorite guitars I'll never be able to afford or own and it just sucks even more what a shitty company they are. Vintage prices are through the roof and any of the cool new models seem to be perpetually out of stock and being resold by scalpers
Bought reversed headstock warlock 1992 last year for 260 euro in germany, replaced hardware its best guitar that I own (also have gunslinger from 2008-9 bought brand new)
Anybody ever think BC Rich lived and died exclusively in the 80's simply cause that's exactly how long it took for people to realize they just weren't that good once you got past the looks??
A long history of new owners and CEOs making somebody else's ideas look bad. At least Paul Smith and Jeff Kiesel staying with there brands. Jeff being a legacy owner. No pun intended.
I don't see that a 400 or 800 guitar order would represent enough money to drive layoffs and broken leases. that just doesn't add up. You're doing a great job tho! XXX
Watch his video. There were definitely other factors involved, probably also the fact that rent in California is just very expensive. But if you're not doing amazing in the first place and a major order gets cancelled that can fuck you more than you think
This is terrible. Makes me wish I could buy an Iconic guitar, although I'd never heard of them until now, and my one purchase would not solve their financial crisis. I certainly won't be buying any B.C. Rich products, that's for sure. (I've just looked and found that there is a dealer for Iconic guitars in a city not far from me, but they are right out of my price range.)
Lol heard nothing but bad things about BCR. As a teenager wanted a Warlock. Unfortunately, it sounded like garbage and got a Schecter. Heard a TH-camr who made the mistake of getting a BCR recently. Apparently they don't set up guitars? They make the stores do it? 😂
I like the guitars, but they are actually taking the piss now. I've seen the custom Mockingbird on their site (it's the supreme model with the ebony fingerboard and cloud inlays) and they want over 10K FOR IT!! I mean they are nice guitars and all, but they are made to a "formula", they aren't really custom made (only comes in 3 colors), and they are charging OBSCENE prices, so they are completely pricing themselves out of the market. How is it worth THAT much? I'd have liked to get a Bich model (I'm not calling it a "B"), it's kind of a dream guitar for me, but even the old ones go for premium prices now , and they seem to be scarce (rarer than hens teeth) and people are asking for 6-7k and it's far too much!! I've even heard getting a custom model doesn't mean that there won't be problems either. They should be absolutely fucking flawless for the prices they are charging!!! 🤔😬
Although it’s sad to see what is happed to Iconic, I think “you blamith too much” on BC Rich. The lack of having a good contract aside, if Iconic ran Into trouble with there expansion because of BC Rich’s pulling Back an order it seems like there capital was pretty shaky at best. Between Covid and a ton of other supply chain issue a lot of companies have found themselves in there shoes. I guess you have it out for this Bill guy. I don’t know what the issue is but it might be bleeding over into you objectively. Good content otherwise.
Iconic jumped into an oversaturated market of Fender clones. Leveraging w BC Rich was an obvious risk I think a hard look in the mirror would serve Iconic
Just checked Iconic guitars and nothing special just a massive price tag. No doubt they're great instruments but a guitar a quarter the price has same spec.
You're paying for their build quality - which is exceptional. I own an Iconic-built guitar (OEM'd) and it rivals the major custom shops - for $1000 or so less.
It's not really fair something like Harley Benton where it's owned by a massive corporation that does it's own distribution and can operate at a loss for years and still be perfectly fine to a smaller company that needs to make a profit to keep the lights on.
If you think you can go to a website and understand what you're buying in a guitar you clearly don't have a clue about what makes a great guitar. Iconic guitars are of some of the best playing and sounding instruments around at more than reasonable prices, AND they're made in the US, AND their quality control is among the best in the industry. You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about lol
Iconic NEEDS to sell those guitars under their own name to recoup losses, I'm sure they will fetch as they are NOT BC poorly "rich" 😂😂 As someone that will NEVER own anything BC "rich", new or used, I'd be willing to get an deal from iconic on those non bc "riches" 😂😂
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Honestly makes Kerry King switching to Dean seem like a PR move for Slayer at this point LOL
Whatever happened to everybody playing Jackson's? at least they think of us little guys with beer budgets....yeah b.c. rich don't do the AFFORDABLE thing anymore and fuck any guitar co. That don't!! Money grubbers man,,,,everybody.
@@Debbie-e2ebecause Jackson’s QC went out the window
I'm a BC Rich collector and a huge fan of the brand, and I actually hate how this company has been run in the last 10 - 15 years. It just makes me wonder what kind of glue they sniff at the headquarters, because literally all you have to do is listen to your customer and fan base and make good instruments. Why is that so hard, and why is the management of their promotional media so sloppy and poor? :(((
*laughs in Bernie Rico Jr*
Not a collector. I don't feel like I need multiple guitars. But they used to be pretty good. I guess maybe I'm lucky I got one when I did...I have a late 90s platinum series warlock & it's not a bad guitar as is, but I upgraded a few things (changing the junk trem it came with made the biggest improvement) & it's been my main guitar for 24/25 years. I've played dozens of other guitars over that time, either just messing around or recording at home or in pro studios, some of which cost up to 10x what my warlock originally retailed for ($650-700) & I actually prefer my warlock over almost all of them.
One time the engineer accidentally erased my guitar track on a song & I didn't bring my warlock to the studio because I was done recording my parts. I used a "several thousand $" Les Paul to rerecord my parts that were erased. Of everyone who's heard the album, no one but the few of us who were in the studio can tell a difference. Part of one of my erased tracks happened a minute or two into a song & instead of doing the whole thing over, I just punched in where the engineer screwed up...which gives an excellent opportunity to A/B my warlock against a guitar that costs much more & has better pickups & everything. Barely noticeable.
So they used to be fine guitars in my opinion. But I've only played platinum series or better. Can't speak for the bronze series. But they used to make good guitars. I'll continue to play & record with my 25-ish years old platinum warlock until I can't or, science forbid, something irreparable happens to it.
All down hill since Bernie SR sold the company. Should have handed the keys over to his son.
B.C. Rich: making Gibson look better everyday.
They’re on par with being absolute shit
Gibson: "I am the most hated guitar company ever."
Rickenbacker: "No, I am!"
???: "Amateurs."
Rickenbacker: "What was that?"
B.C. Rich: "Amateurs!"
@@supernintendo182 Well said, though I am curious as to how Rickenbacker is worse than Gibson. Is it because of their Sky-high prices?
@@MichaelD8393 Their guitars are impossible to find, moreso than Gibson's. Their prices are expensive, their QC is shit, they haven't evolved since the 70s (at least Gibson tries to innovate), and they have zero presence in the guitar world aside from Tame Impala.
@@supernintendo182 Ah, all valid points, okay, you've convinced me. Though B.C. Rich is still worse than Gibson & Rickenbacker combined for what they supposedly did to Iconic Guitars; at least Gibson & Rickenbacker haven't done anything like that as far as we know So to me, the "Top 3 worst guitar companies" podium goes like this:
🥇B.C. Rich
🥈Rickenbacker
🥉Gibson
It would be great if they just change the headstock and sell them by themselves. B.C.Rich can't claim them as counterfeits, because they handed the designs and literally order them to make them. What they refused to do is to sell them.
I for one would love to buy one, since it would help a company that deserves it and above else - it doesn't have the cursed logo on it.
Hey, that logos the best part!!.....my heroes growing up:Kerry king,,trey azagthoth,,,and Tom g. Warrior in the wine in my hand video😅 teased and hair sprayed mop and all.😉🤣🤣 jk with ya bro,,,but I always did like the cursive b.c signature head stocks.
@@Debbie-e2ethat's the logo I like too. & Luckily mine has the cursive logo on the headstock.
& Luckily I have an older model (1999 I think) when they still made good guitars. & Even though mine is a platinum series, after a few upgrades (the tremolo making the biggest improvement) it's a damn fine guitar. I've played dozens of other guitars over the years, & this is still my main guitar all that time.
there is a solid black warlock in stranger things. its in 1 scene, its what eddies guitar looks like before they go to the upside down. its just hanging on the wall
The BC Rich arc continues lol
With all the turmoil at BC Rich, I'm definitely going to Neal Moser when it comes time to order my custom bass later this year or early next year. The Virgin, the shape I want most, was a Moser design to begin with, he offers it as the Scythe. Though I haven't seen a Scythe from the shop lately...
Here is the best advice I can give you. Don't buy a Moser that isn't ready to ship. If you put in a custom order there is a good chance that you will never see your guitar. Neal Moser's back order is extensive with all the down payments long gone. The company is likely gonna fail before the orders get fulfilled. Not to mention Neal is frail and close to 80 years old.
Great recap of the situation, thanks for sharing, very unfortunate, hoping the best for Iconic Guitars. There is some nostalgia for BC Rich, historic company and sad to see how they have been running it. Slash was always a big fan, and he has a good classic BC Rich collection.
Bc rich built this channel whether you like it or not.
Major ouch. That’s horrible. Why isn’t Bill getting sued for this?!
He is probably too broke to make suing him worth it.
BC Rich is the AVID of the guitar industry 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
They truly are.
I run a facebook dedicated to pointy guitars....and we had bill chime in and complain to people publicly about having BC rich shaped guitars/copies
BC Rich high end models aren't worth what they are asking. Their two thousand dollar guitar's are worth about 850$
Unfortunately l agree..
@@thephoenixcycle8854 bronze series BC RICH are a joke and don't buy one unless it's really cheap like 250 or less...
The BC Rich custom shot was killing it under Ron Estrada before Bill took over and ruined everything. They don't even know how to build a proper BC Rich and if you try to give constructive criticism they ban you or insult you.
Tbf it's not Bill himself it's the army of dickriders that moderate the BC Rich facebook pages that make excuses for them.
I'm glad Neal Moser is still doing some really nice work though
@@craigdobson9068 agreed, zach gunter took over as ceo for neal moser guitars and he is KILLING it, they are doing very well, so neal is back doing custom builds for bc rich, and yet again KILLING it from what ive seen. yet like what @deviltronix said above, bill seems to be destroying bc rich, wish rico Jr. or joey rico would step up and get it back to how it was. or hell, even if estrada or crabtree would do that too.
the black Warlock appears, when he plays in hell
Back to square one eh?
It's what it's
I would assume doing business in California had as much to do with this as BC Rich. Plus, never have anyone not cover materials costs up front. I'm a cabinet maker and NEVER start a job without a 50% deposit. That way if I get stiffed I don't owe anything to suppliers.
Sad that BC Rich is in more twist and turn. They got excellent guitars esp their American & Japanese made ones
How is there not a lawsuit over this? Go get'im, Iconic!
At the least the BC Rich company is good for laughs because they sure as hell are not good at making guitars or anything else that is not shitty.
Fuck, and I can not stress this enough, Bill Xavier.
A new BC Rich video, who would have thought ?
Hate to agree but I agree
Watched the Iconic video yesterday, and knew you’d be covering this.
Careful, Dave Cohen will have a heart attack on video again 😂
Also i heard when they changed hands that Zoltan was the owner and Bill Xavier was the guy running it
Dave died and really has not much to do with anything as it turns out
@infinidominion really? I could swear I saw a post of his massive leftie collection only a couple of days ago. I thought he didn't have much to do with it and then there the drama that he claimed Glen Graff stole his bridge master idea, very shouty man.
@@craigdobson9068 where was that? I would vouch for Glenn all day anyway compared to drama Dave
@infinidominion I'm not sure, I'm in loads of BC Rich groups so can't remember which one but I remembered it because he had the only leftie skull and crossbones CC Deville guitar.
@@craigdobson9068 i don't he had any presence on any except Junkies which he did create. I was going to buy his 7strimg warlock in 2019 but was pretty sure he died in the past year, then actual notable figures came out publicly letting us know more details of how crazy he was, which we kind of already knew anyway
I just assumed you'd started to slick it back for the "college professor" look.
Another day another bc rich video
I see BC Rich when I go to sleep
This is why i only buy pre owned B.C. Rich guitars. So none of my money goes towards the company... that and i cant afford and will never pay the prices for a brand new one
Iconic hooked me up with a 7 string in short notice for a gig of mine. They are such a great group of guys and it's very unfortunate what B.C Rich has done.
Own a Shredzilla Prophecy Exotic 7 String Multiscale with Fishmens, Hipshot, Killswitch got it used in mint condition for 700$ honestly plays almost as good as my S1.7 Solar and N7FX Legator. Sounds and plays as good as most of my 6 strings as well and I have a bunch of great guitars. Don't know if id ever get one new through the company but I'm beyond happy to own that Guitar. Spalted maple finish... she turns heads for sure.
your videos are always great, wish you would do more long form content though
Working on it, but January isn't exactly the time to be uploading banger videos cause of the garbage views and ad revenue around this time of year. Killer stuff coming up in February
So shameful 👎👎 iconic guitars are amazing really hope they’re able to recover quickly.
Can't ESP or someone serious just buy their designs already ? I really wanna support them for keeping the pointy ethos alive but them not giving a shit about the european market makes never want to do that.
would LOVE an ESP Ironbird
Same, or an ESP speed V with the big V ESP headstock from the tech house RS models
No thanks.
ESP/LTD dominates the retail sector for metal guitars as it is.
Can't get on with the 42mm nut.
@eliaskapravelos7171 those models were sick, KK's guitars were so cool
@@pauln6803My problem with ESP is their pricing/branding. $2000 will get you a Fender American Professional II series or PRS S2 series guitar or a Gibson SG, but now LTDs are creeping up to this price. $3000 will get you a Gibson Les Paul Standard...ESP will still brand you a peasant with the E-II label for that price.
I’d be happy if BCR could simply stop royally fucking up and just go back to the way things were. Give us all the shapes including the Beast and tone down the insane pricing. It’s not like there isn’t a market.
BC Rich is the Peavey of Gibsons.
I so wanted one of those Stranger Things guitars until I started watching the reviews. I would've been pissed had I bought one before I saw the reviews.
hey man, two weeks is two weeks longer than i expected
i am pretty new to guitar and started learning not long ago, which are the most well received brands? i plan on getting a new guitar in april for my 18th birthda, wich brands do you reccomend? from what i 've heard esp, schecter seem pretty good
ESP/LTD and Schecter are both very good companies, each making excellent guitars.
My personal choice would be LTD or Ibanez. Lower priced Ibanezes can be a bit spotty, but 99% of LTDs that I’ve tried have been solid.
When you look at lower priced Schecters be sure to check fret positions on the scale or have someone check it for you. We've had several come through the shop with some pretty nasty errors in the build.
Not a BC Rich fanboy I do have a couple of BC Rich guitars I have core PRS's & Gibson historics also I purchased a new BC Rich neck through Legacy Bich at the beginning of the year that guitar is solid love the new DiMarzio pickups and the fret radius wish I would have not picked it up but once I got it in my hands it's my main player right now
*the ghost of Bernie Rico Jr has entered chat*
No kidding, black friday 2.0
Is that a Peavey 6505+ in the background? Id love to hear it!
The black warlocks were actually "liquid black" which I thought was stupid.....
the rest of BC rich are under WMI tho
Did you ever get that demo Ironbird?
No. All lies.
I only like Bc Rich because of the Schuldiner Stealth guitar.
This is not allegedly, BC Rich 100% screwed Iconic over. I sold every BC Rich I had due to this. I went to school with the owner of Iconic (Kevin Proctor), since I have known him, he has NEVER once ever lied to me. They are moving their operations to Nashville, TN due to operating costs in Cali. Kevin is now selling some of his personal guitars, and selling off the secret stash of Iconic guitars that they have.
Kevin very well could have helped BC Rich, now he should not do a damn thing for those sob's.
i hope bc rich fixes their shit soon, i love their guitars and thats the brand i have the most of
I almost want a B.C. Rich now.
Not because I like them or want to play them, but just because I want the bragging rights to say I own a guitar from one of the biggest skid mark guitar companies out there, 2nd best to TTM. haha
Wow I've always loved BC Rich guitars,got a new Shredzilla 2 weeks back and it's incredible but I swear this company is cursed
so what did they do with the 400 guitars?
I think some are still unassembled in the shop
if they are selling them for cheap, do let us know. @@scottmartin1875
B.C. Rich is the Chris Barnes of guitar companies.
I use to like BC rich guitars, but they're not comfortable, not versatile, not good looking, not particularly well made, and unfortunately not a company I would want to support. Gross. Good video though!
You should absolutely check out their higher end stuff. Because NGL even tho the company is a nightmare now the quality of the stuff they recently put out is really damn good especially in it's price range for imports. It's the crappy bronze and platinum series stuff that just annihilated the brands reputation in the last 20+ years. It's a bit as if the only thing we would know esp for is the LTD 50 series.
Makes me want to buy an Iconic bass
If ever there was a time to do it it's now hahah
Hi Isahn!
If you want a BC Rich you buy pre 1988
After not watching in a long time, the beard jump scared me
Lmaoo
Bc rich made some of my favorite guitars I'll never be able to afford or own and it just sucks even more what a shitty company they are. Vintage prices are through the roof and any of the cool new models seem to be perpetually out of stock and being resold by scalpers
Bought reversed headstock warlock 1992 last year for 260 euro in germany, replaced hardware its best guitar that I own (also have gunslinger from 2008-9 bought brand new)
Anybody ever think BC Rich lived and died exclusively in the 80's simply cause that's exactly how long it took for people to realize they just weren't that good once you got past the looks??
Kind of disappointing to have this happening.
Didn't know you had a Peavey, when did you grab that beast?
This sucks. The new BC Rich’s look sick, but I can’t support a guy like that.
A long history of new owners and CEOs making somebody else's ideas look bad.
At least Paul Smith and Jeff Kiesel staying with there brands. Jeff being a legacy owner. No pun intended.
Ive been waiting for a Simple Black v to come out. AND THEY JUST KEEP MAKING IRONBIRDS.
To be fair, everyone who wants an Ironbird has been groveling at their feet for years now for new ones. I’m one of those people.
I have a b.c. rich and it's one of my favorites...
Please tell everyone hoe bad they are.... 😉
Aren't you scared of B.C. Rich haunting you by now?
I don't see that a 400 or 800 guitar order would represent enough money to drive layoffs and broken leases. that just doesn't add up.
You're doing a great job tho!
XXX
Watch his video.
There were definitely other factors involved, probably also the fact that rent in California is just very expensive.
But if you're not doing amazing in the first place and a major order gets cancelled that can fuck you more than you think
Stranger things is a fun show. Worth a watch
F@#$ B.C. Rich, I'm done with them. Gonna sell my Shredzilla prophecy series guitar ASAP.
and people wonder why kerry king left bc rich
This is terrible. Makes me wish I could buy an Iconic guitar, although I'd never heard of them until now, and my one purchase would not solve their financial crisis. I certainly won't be buying any B.C. Rich products, that's for sure. (I've just looked and found that there is a dealer for Iconic guitars in a city not far from me, but they are right out of my price range.)
Actually there is a black warlock bc rich
Lol heard nothing but bad things about BCR. As a teenager wanted a Warlock. Unfortunately, it sounded like garbage and got a Schecter. Heard a TH-camr who made the mistake of getting a BCR recently. Apparently they don't set up guitars? They make the stores do it? 😂
I like the guitars, but they are actually taking the piss now.
I've seen the custom Mockingbird on their site (it's the supreme model with the ebony fingerboard and cloud inlays) and they want over 10K FOR IT!! I mean they are nice guitars and all, but they are made to a "formula", they aren't really custom made (only comes in 3 colors), and they are charging OBSCENE prices, so they are completely pricing themselves out of the market. How is it worth THAT much?
I'd have liked to get a Bich model (I'm not calling it a "B"), it's kind of a dream guitar for me, but even the old ones go for premium prices now , and they seem to be scarce (rarer than hens teeth) and people are asking for 6-7k and it's far too much!!
I've even heard getting a custom model doesn't mean that there won't be problems either. They should be absolutely fucking flawless for the prices they are charging!!! 🤔😬
Can you redo the thumbnail and make it on 🔥 please lol
Although it’s sad to see what is happed to Iconic, I think “you blamith too much” on BC Rich. The lack of having a good contract aside, if Iconic ran Into trouble with there expansion because of BC Rich’s pulling Back an order it seems like there capital was pretty shaky at best. Between Covid and a ton of other supply chain issue a lot of companies have found themselves in there shoes. I guess you have it out for this Bill guy. I don’t know what the issue is but it might be bleeding over into you objectively. Good content otherwise.
There's a follow-up video coming.
This deal was worth hundreds of thousands
Yall need to wake up. He made a mistake. The Iconic guy. HE explains the mistakes (actually two) i0nthe video
I won’t buy that guitar. So many counterfeits out there not worth the risk.
so can they now sell on the guitars they made that bc rich cancelled?
bc stitchup
Thats sooo fucked up man..shame b.c.rich have....some..cool guitars
I can't imagine that loosing a 400 guitar order could bring any company down. There's a lot of circumstances missing to this story.
Then, like I ASKED you to repeatedly, be so kind and watch the full video.
Iconic jumped into an oversaturated market of Fender clones. Leveraging w BC Rich was an obvious risk
I think a hard look in the mirror would serve Iconic
The USA Warlocks start around $4k. I'll let you do the math
bro i cant stress how much i love your content dude
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Just checked Iconic guitars and nothing special just a massive price tag.
No doubt they're great instruments but a guitar a quarter the price has same spec.
You're paying for their build quality - which is exceptional. I own an Iconic-built guitar (OEM'd) and it rivals the major custom shops - for $1000 or so less.
It's not really fair something like Harley Benton where it's owned by a massive corporation that does it's own distribution and can operate at a loss for years and still be perfectly fine to a smaller company that needs to make a profit to keep the lights on.
If you think you can go to a website and understand what you're buying in a guitar you clearly don't have a clue about what makes a great guitar. Iconic guitars are of some of the best playing and sounding instruments around at more than reasonable prices, AND they're made in the US, AND their quality control is among the best in the industry. You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about lol
Lol 😂 my god saw this coming
Iconic NEEDS to sell those guitars under their own name to recoup losses, I'm sure they will fetch as they are NOT BC poorly "rich" 😂😂
As someone that will NEVER own anything BC "rich", new or used, I'd be willing to get an deal from iconic on those non bc "riches" 😂😂
It was a better company when Bernie Rico was still around.
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