The Biggest Scam In Guitar History
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 มิ.ย. 2024
- I was made aware of this situation by @LeviClay who reported about the ventures of TTM back in 2018, so I see it as my duty to do my part in killing Lance's new business venture before it's even born. Thank you for watching.
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0:00 What is TTM?
1:32 2007
3:26 Jason meets TTM
8:23 The dissolve of TTM
11:31 Summer 2019 - เพลง
I thought TTM might stand for “taking their money”
I actually thought he was going to say that that's what it stood for. Lol
YESSSSSS!!
Megedeth is my favorite metel band.
Took me like an hour to understand you’ve written megadeth like he said in the beginning of the video
I seen magedeth live before it was fronted by Jeremy Dewitt and George santos
I prefer Sloyer.
Anrtax ys mi favorite trash metle band
I approve this messege
I can’t believe Lance almost conned a guy out of his Forklift Operator’s License
Not a nativr speaker, I don't get the joke. I know what a forklift is. Please help!
@@alexisjordan3303Gabelstapler
@@alexisjordan3303 I'm straight American, speak English, and I'm just as confused as you, bro. Lmfao! 🤷🏻♂️
I actually remember the day that I almost bought a TTM guitar, I was halfway through the transaction when my bandmate (who also told me about it) called me and told me that I should wait a bit, to see if there would be reviews on TH-cam or other sites. So we waited a while and found no reviews. And after almost 4 years we finally understood that it was a scam and were thankful that we didn't fall for it. Thank you for putting some attention on this! Keep it up bro! 🤘🏻
Damn, got lucky there! 😂
Your bandmate is smart.
That was a close shave !!!
"Sometimes, the best purchase is the one we don't make" - Sindri from God of War.
Had chance to try 2 of their guitars and they are great, especially due to prices were around 300 US$ on 2nd hand market with that wood quality, great necks as luthier i have to say they are much better value then some fancy names. Are they scam or not i have no clue but from this and other videos i see they lied and OK guess what other brands lie even more not in the same manner but they lie. For example when they say ''We designed guitar with a...'' dude a player don't design guitar at all it's a lie. Then lies in marketing about quality and have you ever seen any lab test of any guitar that it proves their marketing hype? maybe from a pickups or pedals? I haven't.
I love Megedeth. Piece Cells is a classic
I preferred, Youth in Asia.
I like the sog piss smells veri much
Lust in preach is better
Sew Fer Sew Geed Sew Wet is the best
Pooper Collider
Dude has balls of steel to pull this stunt again. Hopefully people wise up some and deal with this nonsense.
Lol no fs given!!!
They may not have gotten their guitars that they paid for but they still got their superb notoriety right? right?!
Don’t you mean ‘notariety’? 😂
@@JJ-mp7rg Yeah, no one promised anyone superb notoriety. Check the fine print.
Randy Jackson is phenomenal player. I saw him play at NAMM a few years back with George Lynch, Doug Aldrich, and Frank Hannon. Killer show and that guy shreds with the best of the best…
His stuff with jean luc ponte is inhumanely fast and notey
"Middle-aged men who missed their shot at making it in the music scene". Hey, I found a company that will endorse me!
I know a middle aged man who fell for the TTM BS. Hook, line and sinker. He's still trying to be famous.
This is a great video. Keep up the good work
Thanks! 😎😎
OMG a sleezeball in the musical instrument business?? I am shocked, SHOCKED! Why cant these guys just do it the old fashioned way like Rob Chapman and Ed Roman?
Oh ed…what a piece of work he was
Well, atleast if you bought a guitar from Roman you would actually get a guitar. Probably a fairly nice one. With a new fretboard, and neck... and body.
Oh yes, If it walks like an oxygen thiefing ponce/ bully, and talks ,ect. what a world we live in. by the the way I'm willing to give my address to any miss guided you tube fans/ followers who would like to send death threats. but at the end of the day, theres only one Steve Vai and there will always be many poor imotations. I hope Lee has deep pockets.
Heh heh.
Fantastic work my friend...you've done many musicians a tremendous service..too bad you weren't abreast of these things in time to get the word out before all the damage was caused...I applaud your courage and efforts..mad respect 🤘
Well done! Great video. Hard to believe this went down and that this dude is starting up again
Great vid! Thanks for doing the research on this crazy story.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Haha man....That TTM questionnaire video Levi did is GOLD I tell you. Can't wait to watch this after work!
I’m glad Metalliga kicked out Dave Mustang so we could have me favorite band MEGEDETH
🤣 Dave "Mustang"
Another great video. Thanks for doing your thing. 🙂
Wow! Thanks for bringing this to light.
Man, I worked for a company that was in another field, but one that's equally specialized, like bowling, or archery, or whatever, and listening to a lot of the practices you describe are reminding me of a lot of that time. Very frustrating to think back that I was an unknowing worker cog in this machine
I had no idea. Entertaining contribution. Do keep it up.
Phenomenal work on this video 😮🙌🙌
Thanks! 😎
Great video, thanks for informing fellow musicians of this shady company.
God damn, banger after ganger keep it up👍
What a coincident ... Was wondering what the guitar scam brand was just the other day. Saw a video from Jason a year ago or so and found the whole story very intriguing but forgot the name of the company! Thanks for the video!
add 'superb notoriety' to the patreon benefits. That should really pull a crowd!
I feel like things will get even weirder about TTM in the near future. Hope they stop scamming people, this is sad.
Mark Kendall played one for an endorsement video early on but then I’m guessing wised up and realized what was going on. Thank god because Kendall is one of the most underrated rockers of his era
You’re doing a great job with all of these videos, it’s important to have guys like you and KDH keeping people informed
Imagine if TTM ends up being some huge reputable and amazing guitar manufacturer.
Allegedly?
Great vid!! So many folks have been taken in by him and it's time folks heard the truth.
If you are gonna have notoriety, it may as well be of the superb variety.
How do these con men never take a bullet to the face by people they have scammed? Amazing :/
I think I saw the TTM name along with CC Deville model Made In USA on a headstock at a local guitar store around 2017-2018..It was an Orange body and headstock with a Maple fretboard neck..it was for sale for $550...from a distance it looked cheap so I stayed away from it.
I saw some TTM guitars pop up on ebay recently. What a nice trip down memory lane.
i was looking forward to a more professional, journalistic style video on this situation after the Levi Clay saga. Levi’s series was so entertaining and i’ve been waiting for a more condensed version detailing the events of Lance’s,, questionable behavior since. thank you so much, it’s lovely seeing your channel grow!
Thanks! 😁😎🧡
Thanks for this.
Great video.
Thanks!
Thanks for the warning !!!
You bet!
Hey. @ 1:17 What is that lying on top of your Marshall Cab that is moved back after the edit jump?
That would be my phone. Had to take a call 🤣
@@sixstringtv1 Ahh. Ha. Thanks. I was just curious. I'm a "little" older. I remember hearing about and seeing adds for this company and I do remember quite well some of us in my area (also Nashville) thinking it was odd we had never heard of a company that supposedly had relationships with the bands they claimed. We we're doubtful but had no idea it was as bad as this nor that it had a Nashville connection. Thanks for this story. Aery informative and interesting heads up. 🤘👍
Can't wait for your guitar scam tier list.
I've heard about TTM Guitars, but I wasn't a guitar player back then, and once I discovered the meaning of their abbreviation, I couldn't trust them.
The guitar player from a Prog Metal band called Vanden Plas used to play one of those
I hope everyone spreads the word to stay away from TTM
I remember this , I got the email on this to get the green light on the endorsement, I didn’t fall for any of it. I’m very happy with my current endorsements and so grateful, but this was so interesting and crazy , I had been in show biz for along time and never heard of these guys till 2018
You mean....I'm NOT actually a sponsored guitarist....I WON'T be getting my promised guitar....I WON'T be getting my superb notoriety?
...well, shit.... (edit: GREAT video, by the way!)
🤣🤣
I guess it sucks trying to make it Big
TTM was DM ing my social media back in the day trying to snag my money. I'm glad my instincts were hell no
Hope this gets more attention
Wow. I live where this company said it was located and never heard of them. I'm gonna keep my eyes peeled for this lol
I was on Harmony Central when TTM first released guitars. He was giving guitars away left and right, promised me a guitar, then later, refused to send me one when the few people from harmony central that received one started roasting the quality.
My mate was supposed to tour Europe a few years ago and couldn’t make it as he was unwell, he later got a message from Lance on his bands website saying, Hey Man I saw you recently at the concert and you were amazing and would like to offer you an endorsement, my mate never set foot on stage let alone enter the country! hahaha
Well done
Glad I learned this history today
This is a great warning for morons who buy guitars they don't play first. However they probably do so many other idiotic and potentially dangerous things that it ultimately won't help much. And it was only the market for painted "metal" guitars where people completely didn't care about what woods were used. Again, no remedy for that kind of disregard.
Love the Moo Moo Homer hoodie
I remember Status Quo endorsing Kramer guitars . Their bass player might have used one live but have never seen any proof .
I was endorsed with TTM in 2019. Went to the 2019 NAMM show, Lance paid for a big house that had a pool and hot tub. We each had our own rooms.
I was supposed to get a signature 7 string, and he was supposed to bring it at this name show. When I got to California, he shows up and all he had was a seven-string neck. No body, no frets on it, just the neck. He kept telling me how amazing they were
Right there, I started kind of panicking. Because I realized that I came all the way to California to play at the NAMM booth and had no guitar to do it on. Because he told me not to bring anything and that he would provide me with a guitar. We got into it about why we came all the way to Florida for this. Was a huge disappointment. That was just the beginning too lol
If you want, I would love to chat with you and you can use my story as another added piece to the puzzle.
Luckily I'm endorsed with Ernie ball music man now. Don't have to worry about this nonsense.
Lance just added me on Facebook too. What a dork
But you don't mind playing and showing on a YT Ormsby Guitar, that dude is just a successful manipulator and guitars aren't better then TTM. Plus He lies, and Rusty Cooley lies as well by showing that amazing jack on the back of guitar as ''something new'', x companies did it before O... In case of RC signature they obviously copy Yamaha super starts from 80's..
Imagine 100's of kids born after 2000's who have no idea about that, they will get a terrible guitar that is copy for a lot of $, and you have helped such brand. I wonder were is moral in all that ? As long as someone pays some people to endorse their products they seems to not care about such things, or they were tricked along the way?
i'm not defending TTM, but its strange game or moral. Due to all that guitar music is vanishing for the last 15+ years. Percentage of people who learn to play HM /Rock, Blues etc guitar is smaller each year.
Kid will rather became a DJ, or make some electronic music then to listen lies how they need a specific brand of guitar that cost above 1000$, amp above 2000$, pedals above 200 $ etc in order to play some gigs or to be a ''pro''.
You and KDH are the real heroes of the guitar TH-cam world.
🙏🙏🙏
lol KDH plays Ormsby that is worse guitars, they don't cost 100E but people pay 800-1200 for that trash. Plus He lies about design, the dude stolen Yamaha design for jack on the back lol. Imagine such ''hero'' a real double faced $ lover.
In one Philip McKnights videos where he is looking through Sam Ash, he finds an actual TTM guitar
If anyone is near lakeland, FL there's one at Guitar Center apparently.
Lance was the drummer in first band.
He was 15 years old.
He was a great drummer and a smart kid. I am really disappointed in what he did with TTM and the players he bilked.
Sad.
Mark Kendall of Great White still uses TTM I believe
Legacy One Guitars did the same grift around the same time. He got me but I disputed the charge after months of not hearing back. A few years later I unexpectedly received a box of Chinese parts, tossed it.
Währe eigentlich eine coole idee deine 80er strat zu refretten und die electronics zu fixen, währe eine coole serie
I've never heard of TTM Guitars until watching this video. Thanks for the skinny on them.
Ok I'm convinced. Where do I go to invest in TTM?
I love the cheek of a guy who keeps using the name of a notorious scam company.
I owned 2, cant believe youre covering them. Ill go into detail when i have more than a minute to comment. I found them on ebay.
If only they had endorsed 'They Might Be Giants'
I remember that the guitar player in the house band on Eric Andre show played one of these guitars. I remember thinking wtf and laughing when I saw what TTM stood for.
What a weirdly specific place to find one of these guitars 🤣
"hundreds of thousands of dollars building a brand new factory"
That should have been a massive fucking red flag on its own. You would need WAY MORE money to build a "brand new guitar manufacturing factory", especially in that area.
The 357 Customs Zak Wylde guitar scam was pretty huge as well.
I was just getting ready to type that out, what a sham that was. I never fell for it but I read a bunch about it and I was on the 357 customs site looking at the deal many times. I also spent lots of time reading many web forums about that shady deal.
You got a new sub... allegedly
Doing the lord's work, good sir
You should cover the Zakk Wilde 357 Customs controversy
I owned a TTM predator, a reverse rhoads shape. It’s not bad, not my favorite. Sold it to get a hold of my Bc Rich Stealth.
@15:00 Any thief / con-man is a certifiable garbage excuse for a human being. Stealing someone's hard earned money is terrible enough but then to try and rob a person of their livelihood and destroy that persons ability to provide for themselves and family is absolutely inexcusable and unforgivable. I'm glad that person, whomever it may be was able to escape having their professional business license(s) revoked simply for trusting the wrong guy. Everyone should always be very careful about who you choose to potentially go into business with.
I still cant figure out if the Boaz1 guitar is going to come down the mountain and set our bushes on fire or if its a never ending scam. Either result is fascinating.
Heh, fire bush
Be advised; there's also a grifting, con man drummer running around out there named Luke Johnn, who's right in the same scamming market just like Lance Benedict; he drops big A-list rocker names claiming to be personal friends with these people who have no idea who he is. He's got a great, plausible silver-tongued line of BS and lots of plausible sounding backpedaling. So, just a heads-up for anyone out there who might run into this guy. Check TH-cam, he's on an episode of America's Most Wanted.
Nah, I'll just go with Solar if I want a out of the norm guitar. I have one and it's pretty damn good. Firefly is a good mod platform too, I have one of those too
I looked into TTM when they where offering custom guitars, at the last minute I decided it sounded to good to be true and did not send money. I still get invoices through paypal to this day every month lol.
Lmaooo good call
The whole TTM thing has always been crazy to me, like, bands, and more specifically their labels, are violently litigious when people infringe on their IPs, and like, dead metal bands from the 80s, RATT n what not, sure they could get away with it, but like Megadeth? Ozzy Osbourne??? It literally feels like this dude just thumbed through his record collection and said "Yeah, these'll do"
And I thought Australia's Devries Custom Guitars was a bad company...
Wow thats a throwback
I remember him running rampant in a FB guitar group I was in, like 10 years ago or so.
I think he passed away a few years back though.
He obviously endorsed Back Stabbath
Magedeth was a side project by George santos .. according to him he was #1 in Antarctica
I’m glad people remember this catastrophe of a business. I guess they still exist although i’m not sure how. Entry level ltd/harley benton-esque guitars for serious instrument money. I used to get into it with them all the time on their facebook page back in the day, like basically when they started. Anyone who has been around a variety of instruments could look at them and know what they really were. But they really preyed on that weekend warrior demographic
"weekend warrior demographic" that's perfect
Yeah...one of their agents tried to sign me a deal...only problem was, I didn't want any of their guitars! Why should I? I play ESP, Gibson, Washburn, Yamaha, Fernandes, Peavey Vandenberg guitars ... I could very much play the new Charvel / Jackson, Kramer or Fender lines, but not TTM
Thanks for the warning ⚠️ 🙂
Mr TTM to his investors: “Well shucks, I don’t have your 50k… if you don’t want to lose it just loan me another 50k and I’ll triple it for you, I promise…!”
Yes, something is a miss and I believe it's this guy.... 🤣 Wow this really was educational AND entertaining.!! Allegedly!!
There are actually some of these guitars listed on Reverb.
This lance dude makes Dean Zelinsky look like a saint a true saint that is
Just out of curiosity I looked for a website,, looks like if there was one it's gone today
I’m one of the people that got an endorsement and put the down payment down and received nothing….
😬😬😬
He conned Ward music in Canada in 1990's over orchestral instruments thats what led to him starting scamming with guitars with TTM. Hes a multinational con man.
He conned thousands of junior high school kids and parents for band instrument rentals
Time to call the Bunco squad--Sgt. Friday where are you?
Interesting...and weird. You done good.
I wonder if they're one of the suppliers of Badlands. They won't disclose who they are using for their suppliers, just that it's all made in the USA except for the heel plate.
Did not expect the Breaking Bad reference, a not-so-memed one in face
Dang, I'm feeling pretty frivolous with my one million sixstring credits.
"Endorsements" don't work that way.
It is the ARTIST that offers their popularity to endorse a product, connecting their name and notoriety to a product or company for the purpose of advertisement and increased sales.
An endorsement is meant to get the fans of the noted artist to want the same product that the artist says they like and use.
The company will often compensate the artist for endorsing the product with money or free products, some even going so far as to offer a product with the artists name actually on the product, or being designed or modified to the artist's ideas/desire.
So - the company DOES NOT endorse the artist, though they may offer an artist an endorsement DEAL - an agreement/contract for the artist to endorse the product and the value and means of compensation.
Biggest scammer was Ed Roman allegedly, but this guy was a real tiger king too with the securities fraud, nice video