ZERO (S1E14) Stunt Guy Quit, Lex Gets Hurt, Neil Patrick Harris Said ‘No’ & Lots of Flashbacks
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What would you do with zero consequences…
This week we explore that concept in Episode 14 of Smallville: ZERO. The guys revisit a Lex heavy, flashback frenzied episode that almost featured the very own Neil Patrick Harris.
Michael remembers the Lex hanging upside down scenes causing a bit of a health scare and the one scene that caused a stuntman to quit on the spot.
Tom remembers what it was like working with iconic guest stars who made appearances in the series and tricks of the trade in executing some of the Smallville oners.
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14 - Zero: Stunt Guy Quits, Lex Loses Brain Cells, Neil Patrick Harris Turn Down & The Art of Flashbacks #smallville #talkville #season1
Confession: I am in my 70s, have been a TV viewer since the early 1950s - and Smallville is my *all-time favorite* show. It 100% hits every note - acting, casting, writing, filming, music, not to mention its fundamental compassion and humanity. I've rewatched the series many times, and now I'm loving that you guys are sharing TalkVille with us.
You ain’t 70
@@anthonygodfrey4239 what makes you think he isn’t?
Wow!! I started watching when i was 6 in 2001 ❤. A great show is multigenerational
@@Chosen_one_501 no 70 year old commenting on TH-cam
@@anthonygodfrey4239 is it really that hard to believe that a guy who likes a show went online to hear the people who made it talk about it? It’s not like old people can’t use the internet. Plus, his comment is very formal and doesn’t use for lack of a better phrase, “young people talk”. Lol
I just finished a horrible test and thank goodness for Talkville 😅 I really loved the one shot scene with Clark, Chloe, and Pete walking at the school and how natural it looked. Also loved the chemistry between John and Anette :)
I love this podcast and so happy you film it. This and inside of you. I enjoy it so much. Michael, you are one of the best podcast hosts out there. So happy you’ve been doing this. Would love to see you and Tom in your pdocast recording studio on your next episode. The vibe is different when you two and Ryan are in the same space.
Thanks buddy. Stick around ❤️❤️
Man! Ryan wouldnt continue the show if the podcast stopped? Thats so wild. I watched smallville late (2018ish) and binged the entire thing in like a month or so. Absolute favorite show.
Hope he likes it more as the seasons progress!
Congrats on being casted on The Winchesters!! Hopefully, you’ll still have time to continue doing this show
Clark got shown the spaceship in episode 1
Yeah Al sent us a reminder haha
this show is epic
I know Ryan's not from Lancaster, PA because he said "LAN-caster" and not "LANK-astir".
Great episode, but ultimately shows one of Clarks greatest flaws... His Hypocrisy!
Clark very validly criticizes Chloe for sticking her nose in his business but constantly does it to other people (mainly lex) and will often lash out at those trying to help him, while he himself is constantly pushing his help on others. Once again love the episode and this podcast but any thoughts this on this character trait of Clarks?
Weekly episode drops? Bite your tongue! It would kill me if that became the norm for streaming services. I don't start watching anything until it drops 100%.
For me I actually love all the episodes even if the story or plot has highs and lows its the cast chemistry that always keeps me glued I love the Kent's and even lex and Lionel when they talk and jab at each other that's why this show lasted the actors made it great
Clark saw the ship in the Pilot
Oooof 🤦
The spaceship was in the first episode
When Clark asks his dad “what do you have my ship in the attic “
And Jonathan says “actually it’s in the storm cellar “
Yeah, and then Clark runs off after he sees the ship
Jepp 👏👏
Yup its in episode 1, I think the exchange went:
Johnathan Kent: Your parents.....aren't exactly from around here.
Clark: Well where are they from?
*Johnathan looks out the barn window into the sky
Clark: What are you saying Dad, that I'm from another planet?.....I suppose you stashed my spaceship in the attic?
Johnathan: Actually, it's in the storm cellar.
@@dbreezy2298 actually you got one or two of the lines wrong the scene went more like this. Jonathan: it's time son Clark: time for what Jonathan: the truth [Jonathan gives him the ships heart.] Clark: what's this Jonathan: we think it's from your parents your real parents. Clark: what's it say Jonathan: we tried to decipher it for years but it's not written in any language known to man. Clark: what do you mean Jonathan: your real parents weren't exactly from around here Clark: where were they from. "Jonathan looks out loft window" "Clark scoffs" Clark: so what are you trying to tell me dad that I'm from another planet and i suppose you stashed my spaceship in the attic Jonathan: actually it's in the storm cellar Jonathan: this is how you came into our world son it was the day of the meteor shower. Clark: this this is a joke right why didn't you tell me about this before Jonathan: we wanted to protect you Clark: protect me from what you should have told me. [Clark superspeeds away] Jonathan: Clark Clark
That's what I was going to say
I love Smallville and miss it. Watching this podcast has made my life so much better. Thank you guys for doing this!
If u have access to Hulu you can rewatch the whole series... I've done it at least 3 times
They are doing an animated sequel series. It won't be the same I would love a sequel show actually called Metropolis where we see the characters where they are now, will be hard without Chloe as she was a big part of Smallville too
Glad to help pal. Appreciate ya ❤️❤️
@@debbiebeech7793 Yep, I have Hulu! Throughout my life I think I l’ve watched the entire series 4 times hahaha. Last time I rewatched because I wanted my wife to see it with me. She loves it now and we watch the podcast together :)
@@debbiebeech7793 it's also on Amazon Prime video. That's where I'm rewatching it. :)
So glad you three are doing this podcast. Especially since SmallVille was the ONLY TV series I ever purchased on DVD ever in my life.
Awesome ❤️❤️
Same. I'm saving up to get the Blu-ray and rewatch it that way lol.
Money well spent. I'm hoping to do the same.
The whole series is definitely worth many rewatches. I'm on my third, and just watched it for the first time 2 years ago.
Same here...bought every season as they came out. Never bought any other.
12:51 I love how Tom channels his “inner Clark” and defends Lex!! So wholesome!!
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They both wanted to be friends but their destinies could not allow it
That whole Kent Adoption storyline is so good. That episode really highlighted Jonathan Kent and the moral dilemma he was in putting him in a tough spot. When it came to the ending of that episode it was very sad.
It also makes sense as to why Johnathan is so adament about NOT accepting help from the Luthers.
@@ufnowski0131 Yup. That very first episode in the pilot with not accepting and then when it leads to this episode it all comes back to the pilot episode.
I was very invested into that as well.
Easily one of Michael’s best showcase as Lex Luthor
Thanks bud ❤️
So, this podcast has me rewatching Smallville with my 6 and 8 year old, as well as my wife who has never seen it. Thank you for making a fairly family friendly show (we still make the kids turn for some of the scenes)
Amazing. Hope you’re all enjoying it Curtis 🙌
Once a week with the podcast or are you watching ahead?
So few family shows anymore.
The best thing about this for me is that Ryan has no idea how great Smallville is going to become. I can't wait to see his reaction as the show progresses. Good luck keeping it to 3 favourite moments!
You just know he's going to fall in love with it.
Good thing Pete didn’t find the severed hand. “Damn. Who’s that?” 😂
That was easily the funniest moment on Talk Ville so far. I fell really far behind with the podcast and I’m trying to catch up
@@RuanAntunes7don't feel too bad I just started watching them a few weeks ago do the podcast
I thought we would get a “damn whose that” that joke about the arm in the safe last week. Was a bit bummed 🤣
I remember this one. Much better ep. than last weeks! You can feel the pain watching poor Rosey hanging upside down..blood rushing to his head...Stuck in a straight jacket. No thanks...What we actors do for our craft. I remember accidently gashing my hand during the stage production of Wait Until Dark. Luckily it just added to the scene that my hand was dripping blood...We got comments about the great special effects. 🤣 Blood, sweat and tears! Excited to hear all about your guy's experience! Much love. 💙
Yikes! Glad it worked out in the end haha whatever works 🙃❤️❤️ appreciate ya Michelle
I love how John Schneider always portrayed Jonathan as calm and civil, even in moments where you can feel his rage such as the scene with the dead cows. It shows how important Jonathan believes it is not to give in to emotion.
I really love the repeated jokes, like "you're shitting on the show!" or when ryan says a scene is not the best he says that it's not an "enrique iglesias's moment" (in previous episodes) , so when Lex mentioned that he liked the reaction for the seveerd hand, I expected that he will say something like "damn, who's that"
Michael is so random! (Momma’s heart) 😂😂 I really like the three of you together. Tom brings depth, Michael lightens it up and Ryan enlightens both of you to stuff you missed (and he makes me laugh). I love your show!!
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sad ryan never watched the show, he missed alot of DC highlights and DC super heroes on the show even the justice league episode
@@GawrGurasBathTubPizza Nah. It's great to have his outside perspective for the podcast.
Sad to hear Tom saying you would have given up already if not for Patreon. Please keep trying guys really look forward to this podcast!
That’s the plan gran 🤣❤️
@@TalkVillePodcast I see what you did there, nice rhyme lol
@@TalkVillePodcast love this so much! Please keep it up! Just found yall so playing catch up.
Considering The Flash is Michael's favorite superhero and got to voice him in the animated series, I find it hard to believe he doesn't know The Flash lives in Central City.
Hey Michael, little bit of a personal question but you portray Lex with such confidence and you can really tell you hold an aura on the screen, all the other cast members say how they looked up to you, and you’ve talked about anxiety getting in the way of going for roles recently, so do you think you will ever get back into acting? It’s kind of a travesty if you don’t.
Michael is an excellent actor and musician, it’s a shame not to see him again on the small or big screnn, i agree he has an aura 👍❣ But he is already very busy with his great podcasts and music and his struggle against anxiety, it’s exhausting, i have this problem 😑❤
@@dominique9187 totally agree 👍
💯 agree its a huge travesty I feel like we've missed so many great performances that he could have portrayed
I feel like he should have stayed with Smallville through all seasons then pursued movies. I think he jumped early and paid for it unfortunately.
I also missed Michael a lot for the sequel of Smallville ! His masterful interpretation of Lex left an unforgettable and awesome mark on the series 👍❣ He is an amazing actor ❤❤
Can't say enough how much I look forward to this podcast. Thank you all for putting this together and sharing it with us.
Thanks for joining us bud
Finally Wednesday got a highlight
Clark's drink of choice would definitely be a "Coke, straight up, on the rocks" to quote season 5 episode "Exposed"! XD
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I think the writers had Lex drinking an appletini because it’s green like kryptonite.
Ooooh interesting
Dats a BINGO
This was a fast paced sometimes dangerous to produce episode allowing us to learn more about the complex character of Lex. Kudos to Michael for the hanging upside down scene- great respect 🌹🌹
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@@TalkVillePodcast 🤗💖
@@TalkVillePodcast lmao
First, great job guys I really like this episode as well. Second, we see Clark's spaceship for the first time in the pilot when Jonathan reveals that he's an alien. Third, the adoption thing will be explained a lot more later. The season or next, but definitely in season seven. Keep up the good work guys. Loving the podcast
Thanks bud. Good stuff ❤️
I'm enjoying the video podcast too and correct regarding the adoption, it is definitely more explained in Season 2, Season 7 was just the Veritas stuff
I hope when Tom starts The Winchesters TV show he still has time for this podcast. This episode was interesting fast entertaining the seed was planted earlier in x-ray about Lexs past we got the pay-off the fall at the end slow motion was cool 🌹🌹 So sad that poor Michael potentially has permanent damage due to the hanging stunt also curious of how family is portrayed in Smallville if that influenced Toms parenting with his kids keep up the excellent fun times everyone
I started re-watching Smallville randomly then stumbled onto this podcast from Rosey talking about it on Inside of You, so I'm totally loving this. You 2 are absolutely hilarious and I love you both and this show.
I took the "she's got a fiancee" line as "It's the reason we're here, to celebrate, how exciting, and it's totally not because I've set it up to catch her fiancee cheating". If the fallout from that had gone differently, I could have seen him using that line for some kind of plausible deniability about intentions or something. Lex seems the type to set things up for multiple useful outcomes
31:13 I love how Tom uses that quote about how flashbacks need to be used
So true here
So excited to hear your thoughts on this one and the behind the scenes stories!! Love Zero!! I know I have said this many times… Thank you so much for doing this re-watch podcast ❤ I’m so grateful for it and “Inside of You” ❤️ Proud to be a patron of both!! Happy Talk Ville Wednesday ❤️☄️🌽
You’re the best Lisa ❤️ hope you dig this one
@@TalkVillePodcast awww ❤️ You are the best ❤️ Loved this one ❤️ Amazing as always ❤️ Thank you ❤️
We all know what kind of character Clark and Lex are going to be, I found the absolute strength of the show was always those episodes that showed potential for them to go another direction. Ultimately they end up making the comic character choices, but it just made us part of the journey!
Knowing what ultimately happens to them in the comics is what adds to the tension for especially Lex, to turn out better. It taps into wanting and hoping for a character which shows how good the writing and acting was. Classic epic storytelling.
Funny how the pilot is Rosey's grail ep and he doesn't remember basic details like Johnathan showing Clark the ship. 🤣
Ahhhhhh 🤦
Great episode guys. As far as the question regarding Smallville if it was on a streaming service, Michael said it would be darker and more adult. But that doesn't work for the Superman character and mythology, so the platform it was on was perfect
Fair point buddy
I look forward to Wednesdays so much more now. I wish y'all did two a week, honestly.
Wait a minute. They haven't seen the ship yet? That was shown in the first episode
Wow...they really don't remember a lot. In a later episode, we see Lionel Lex and Jonathan Kent talk about his adoption. Lionel is the person behind it.
well think how much Tom worked, he was the hero so he probably always had days of 15 or 16 hours and probably never got much sleep
In my opinion, it is very different for us (Smallville fans), since we've watched & re-watched the show (or even discussed show details, on-line, with friends/ family, etc.) than it is for Tom & Michael (Smallville actors), since they have watched a bit of the show here & there (Tom seems to have watched more than Michel has, but still I am sure Tom has not re-watched the whole show multiple times, over the years).
If you consider these differences, and also how long it has been since they were on the show, it is not at all surprising that some of the finer plot twists are not things they remember too clearly. We, as fans have had time & opportunities to "study" the show.
I do love it that they do not remember all the details. For the first time, they are watching the show (sort of) from a fans' point of view, which is exciting, fun & interesting to me, because they've got some back-stage stories to tell, yet they are watching the show (as a whole) for the "first time", from our point of view :)
Just started Season 4 where Jensen Ackles (Jason Teague) has been introduced. Apparently he was up for Clark Kent's role too. I have to say as amazing as he is I did not get Clark Kent / Superman vibes from him. They made the right choice.
It's you Tom, you are the best Clark Kent ever. You and Christopher Reeve are my favourite portrayals of my most favourite superhero. Thank you.
I didn't watch Supernatural because I hated his character so much. 😆
NES over Sega
Xbox over PS
SV over SN
Oh, and if any of you have not read the piece about a fan who had his pic taken with Erica D. and Tom W. at the New York Con, it is very moving. Apparently the guy had a rough childhood and Smallville was his main escape or distraction. He cried when Erica hugged him but was trying to be tough for Tom. Tom and Erica both went above and beyond. ... I am thankful for this podcast and Inside of You. I am excited to see Tom on shows again. And i do hope that Michael will get back out there too. Just so cool to witness all of this good stuff in a pretty chaotic world right now.
Thank you for another great episode! Tom, you'll find out more about your adoption in the second season - and congrats on your new role in The Winchesters (as well as FINALLY Professionals)!
This is my favorite episode of season 1, I love Lex episodes, can't wait for Onyx and Lexmas.
Same here!!!!
Lexmas is hands down one of the top 10 episodes of Smallville 🫶🏼
I WAS watching an episode and then watch you guys talk about it, but then I got wayyyyyy ahead of you. Right now I'm on the 4th episode of season 4!!! But of course I still tune in every Wednesday to hear you guys talk about the show. I really love hearing your stories about your time filming :)
you should look into doing one episode live on TH-cam, take questions live. great stuff love the show
Got some stuff in the works 😄
I always thought Lex was like 90% sure, but he really wanted Clark to tell him so that he would feel as though Clark genuinely trusts him
Nope, Lex would've exploited it.
@@jkhoover The normal Lex definitely would have but this was supposed to be before they became who they are. And the Smallville version of Lex was always trying and rarely actually did anything that would be considered bad. Little by little he does more as the show progresses
@@jamjam1 yeah by season 6 he is full blown evil
Nah he for sure did not know… but I think all the manipulation from his father and friends have just left him trying to just push some logic aside to try and find a great friend in Clark
LOL no Tom we find out that Lionel Luther helped get you adopted remember this was part of the black male that had your father have a heart attack come on now Clark
Chloe investigating the Kents on Clark’s adoption was always such a weird thing to me
Think it was played well nonetheless
@@TalkVillePodcast Oh ya no doubt
well that was an interesting dynamic since she and Lex always crossed boundaries regardless of Clark's past, they both would always cross a boundary yet Chloe usually apologized for it and eventually grew out of it whereas I don't think Lex could've been like that, yes in the beginning he was a great friend to Clark and his friends but I think Season 3 is when they started to have a falling out since I think Clark was starting to see that Lex was way too obsessed with Clark and the bridge incident, at least that's my take on it
@@MattZRJSRoxyI don’t believe Chloe’s apology is truly sincere for snooping on privacies when didn’t ask first, but doesn’t wanna lose close friends in abandoning her attention she since she hardly has others😏🤷🏻♂️ while lex on the other hand I believe his when trying to maintain their friendship with Clark👍
@@jeffh06 I do believe her apologies were sincere so I disagree with you there, she just had issues with getting out of her reporter's curiosity tendencies.
Club Zero is an episode at the top and among the best of the season 1👍 He is very successful and remarkably performed ♥️ The darkest scenes with your comments seem less dark and funny sometimes 🖤😄 Awesome TalkVille once again 👏👏👏💙❤💚
24:38 Yes Tom, Lionel is the whole reason on how Clark to get adopted by Jonathan’s choice only turns out as a ‘pay by depts’😂
All the comments that say "the spaceship was in the pilot" are cracking me up 🤣 I love how us fans don't miss a beat and won't let y'all forget that we know what's up 😂 Great episode this week. Looking forward to next week's and seeing a whole new side to Lana...
This is a really good episode. Great storyline, cast and music in club zero. I remember thinking when Lex was hanging upside down, that it couldn't be good for him/you. Also, like you mentioned, it wasn't natural that all of those people stopped when the music was blasting out of Lex's car. It would have been funny if some of them were dancing to it 😆
What’s your score pal
@@TalkVillePodcast I'll give it 2 roses 🌹🌹👍
I would have defo danced to it
I had forgotten just how many twists and turns were in this episode! I certainly forgot about Fry Cook Doppelganger. It's not on my list of episodes I'd use to introduce someone to the show, but it's definitely among my favorites. A solid 2 roses for all the great Lex stuff, Jonathan's Big Sad about dead cows and another one of my favorite scenes: Clark's adoption angst. Not knowing who his bio parents are and why he's not with them isn't something you have to be an alien future superhero to relate to, and I thought Tom really sold that scene. I wish there had been a little bit of episode shuffling so that this episode didn't follow so closely behind Leech. Because that episode really highlighted Clark's ability to lie - not just a little bit to protect himself but to lie viciously - and there's a part of me now that has to wonder just how much of his Chloe scene was truthful and how much was "protect the secret."
Yep that’s well said bud 🙌
I can't express how happy I am that you guys are doing this!! We all LOVE Smallville!! I want to go back to when this was on TV.❤❤
For the kill/save death count, you forgot all the cows that died on the Kent farm from Luther corp😆
This is one of my favorite's episode. I really like the way it was build and the darkness. Also, I love the episodes where Lex is the center of attention. I'm surprised Michael gave more roses than Ryan lol I think Ryan's rating scenes is not fair for Tom cos Michael knows Ryan more than Tom does so we can speak..
JOHN GLOVER KNITS?!?!!?!?!?!? That makes me love him even more!!!
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The effect of watching each episode each week for 10 years was why it's ingrained into my very soul. Sure I was learning from my parents my friends and the people I surrounded myself with but it's my time with Smallville that somehow watching each week(by the way there was a ton of skipped time in multiple weeks waiting for certain episodes) that I had to fill in the gaps of my life with actual life, and I would take the lessons I may have learned watching and try to apply them. Truly we could talk about so many ways that Smallville helped us grow as individuals. But the question brought up about it being on a streaming service these days made me realize I'm so happy it aired exactly when it did.
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Michael and Tom, you both mentioned ladies that had crushes on you back in the day but if the talkville store had current posters of you both, I’m sure there’s quite a few 30 something ladies out there who’d buy them. Just saying 😉
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It wasn't the whole school the kids choose from, it was the class I believe because Pete says something along the lines of "there's a dozen girls and I got a guy". Also, we do find who helped the Kents with the adoption. I do know who it is but not exactly what season/episode. I'll let you guys figure out who lol
That's further down the line. But it does help explain Johnathon's attitudes.
kinda funny how at least 2 people have mentioned it, not including me lol and I don't even have a clue how I'd remember
So awesome to wake up and these guys post a new video, I was a fan of you two professionals work on the show from day one until the last and you still are so entertaining! Thank you Michael and Tom y'all rock 🤟 also I am going to order some merch for sure, all I can do to support you guys.
Thanks bud hope you’re enjoying the pod
We actually do see Clark’s space ship before this, in the pilot haha. I think the pilot is the only episode where the ship is a different design as well
Yup our bad 🤦
@@TalkVillePodcast one of the things that’s super cool though is that the second time we see the ship it’s in its final design already. There are huge plot points in later seasons where the shape of the ship and it’s design comes into play, it makes it feel like the writers really had things mapped out ahead of time!
Side note: Personally, I liked how you guys occasionally drift off topic and talk about some random thing … it is hilarious. However, thank you for doing this. Much love ❤️
Hey Michael, Ryan, Tom..Talk Vile guys..How are y'all doing!.. Enjoying y'all's show Smallville Talk Vile.. podcasts!..Thank y'all Soo much..for bring back Series "Smallville"..It was real, moments episodes, no cg I lol.Cast ,or actors, actresses writer's, visual effects and everything that had alot of heart, soul, good story telling as well!...🍻😎..Keep it going guys... congratulations to you Tom Welling and your family as well!..My name is Nick Rogers..From Pasadena TX!... 3 Rosenbaum ..like episode 14 " Zero"..!...Have a good weekend guys!
I feel like the latter half of Season 1 the show really finds its footing. I'm rewatching Season 2 and can't wait till you get there because I forgot how many banger episodes there are; the show really starts maturing post-Tempest.
There soon enough
some of my more favorite eps were Season 4 or later. Not generally a fan of many eps in the first 3 seasons except for maybe a few. Hug was probably my favorite ep of Season 1, maybe X-Ray would be another 1
@@MattZRJSRoxy yeah season 2-3 still suffer from freak of the week syndrome but the general storytelling begins to gel more after season 1. My favorite era is actually the Erica Durance years mainly bc I think her casting and chemistry with Tom was phenomenal.
I think that it was not Lex that killed Judy actually, it was Amanda, because she probably ended her life because of guilt for what she did.
I think Michael really nails it with that comment about streaming and the anticipation that comes every week when your favorite show is coming on. Whatever night Smallville was airing during its 10yr run was the looked-for night for me. Couldn't wait to see what new adventures awaited our gang of heroes (and villains?) and what ongoing storylines might progress that episode. Still adore the show and the memories it brings back when I rewatch it. Keep up the good work. 👍👍
I'm dying to see the reviews he does that Michael wasn't even a part of regarding those eps
@@MattZRJSRoxy Absolutely! Please let these podcasts run long enough for Rosie to comment on episodes he wasn't in. Probably be watching them for the first time. 😅
Gotta wonder if Lex would have still become a villain if Clark shared his secret with him. I feel like he was driven there trying to figure out the secrets of kryptonite and his friend
I feel like even if Clark was honest with lex he would still have been lex because most of his character is made threw his whole life before he even met Clark, I would like to see him be a good guy but only on a parallel universe is there a good lex but superman is evil in that one also so lex is going to be the horrible person because of more than just his friendship with Clark.
@@stephendavidson7256 I disagree , I think Clark’s honesty with this would have been the single most positive influence in Lex’s life. His dark past put him between 2 tracks , but Clark’s lies, secrets and betrayals is, in my opinion, what SET Lex on the dark path we all know awaits him.
A lot could have prevented lex from turning
@@gabrielleroux2333 ouch. But hey, we do have multiverses, right?
Well there is a shift in Lex after the episode with 2 Lex's. His evil half overpowers his good half before being merged together again.
"We wouldn't do this if there were no Patrons" is kind of narcissistic, Boys. You do something because you love it, enjoy it & if you make some money from YT stuff, great, but come on...
I really loved this episode and I really cant believe Ryan wouldn't continue to watch the series. Such a great show happy you guys are doing this. Maybe when we get a few seasons in ask him that question because the show just gets better. Keep up the great work!
Great point
I totally forgot I left that voicemail. Imagine my surprise to hear Michael say the call was from a Ryan from Virginia. I thought what a coincidence. Then I hear my voice!
This was a good Lex-centric episode that gave a glimpse into the Lexicon of the character and his past.
I see what you did there. Very nice.
Is it bad that I laughed a bit when Michael said he didn't know about "Central City" when he's literally played The Flash (in voice acting)
I love listening to this podcast on my way to work. I’m so excited about Nicodemus next week because I love how everyone acts out of character. Love you guys and thanks for continuing to do this podcast ❤
Jonathan shows Clark his ship in the pilot, right? Second episode at the latest. Clark definitely knows about it by this point, anyway.
Enjoying listening to this episode. Michael you did a great job on the stunts. John and Annette gave great performances.
Thanks therese ❤️
Your welcome
i thought the whole point of this episode is how far lex is willing to go for his friends and what a good guy he is deep down at this point in the show. i dont think he was romantically attracted to Amanda and brought her to club zero either actually not knowing Jude was there or knowing he was and wanting to show her how Jude was sneaking around on her. then he covers all of it up as him doing it because he was important enough for it to be swept under the rug but amanda wasnt. and hes doing everything on his own this episode both to protect amanda and protect lana and clark.
Talk Ville Tuesdays are just so nice to look forward to, thanks for another great episode. I agree 'Zero' is a great Smallville episode. Thank you for answering my question, I did think it looked and sounded like Michael was actually upside down, but he looked so bad, I hoped it was TV magic, because it just seemed cruel! I know it was a long time ago, but sometimes rewatching these episodes, I get nervous for the actors, just from what you guys have revealed so far about filming. We are only in season one, and so far Michael has been trapped under water and been made to hang upside down for a silly amount of time, I seriously wonder if Smallville left him with trauma? Also, when they were at Club Zero, I didn't think Lex was implying he didn't care that Amanda was engaged in a smug way, I heard it as he was reassuring her, that he was telling others she was spoken for... but then again I consider myself a good, honest person, but Lex? Maybe not so much, so maybe Tom and Ryan had a point. Come to think of it, I also accepted the final version of the club scene where Amanda fired the gun (she would have been so emotional), and this was always my problem with Lex, I always wanted to see the good in him, and then whenever he did something shady, I either didn't want to believe it or I was really bothered by it 🤣 My hope knows no bounds, even with villains! 😂
Thank you Rosey, Tom and Ryan ❤
Appreciate ya ❤️
It’s Wednesdays or am I crazy
@@-M0LE haha, you are absolutely right, it shows you how well my week is going! I have got myself confused because I haven’t watched the Inside of You podcast yet this week, so this was first instead, so I thought it was Tuesday - good call 😆
@@dawnbevins451, I always have to remind myself the differences between the two Podcast's days, too. Two awesome podcasts, both are Michael's 🤣😍🤩
Dawn, I think you nailed it for the Rosenfangirls. In our minds, as we watched, Lex started out as good, and was fighting his demons and just kept getting thrown into such awful circumstances. I wanted to believe that he was innocently just good friends with Amanda, then learns her finance is cheating. So in order to protect her, he takes her to the club to witness for herself what's going on. Only then he learns the fury of a woman scorned could go so badly that she kills her fiance. Lex, then uses his influence to protect her, his genuine friend. But she later kills herself from the guilt of that night. I never believed Lex actually did the original shooting, but it was a horrible memory for him and he lost his good friend in the end just the same.
It never occurred to me that lex was actually the killer not Amanda I think because he was so convincing in the speech he gave to Clark where he told him he would do anything to protect his friends an that Lionel wouldn't help Amanda but would do anything to save his only son so he took the blame
Man, I love smallville . I started to rewatching each episode again. I'm happy because this series was part of my childhood and it makes me happy to see both of you talking about every episode. My favorite caracter is Lex !! Shout out from Brazil !
So the 26th will be the podcast week closest to Halloween...anyone down for a costume podcast?
My wife and I just started rewatching the series; having this podcast makes the rewatch so much more special! Thanks for doing this, guys!
I missed this til now, but now binging it - not waiting for a week! lol - I really hope you do season two - I watched this show when it came out and it is really interesting hearing your thoughts
Please don't quit making this podcast. If you make it to the series finale, I'll cry happy tears. TalkVille is a great way to draw more attention to Smallville and build anticipation for the animated sequel series as well.
The first episode of Smallville I ever saw was “Rosetta”, and I’ve been a fan ever since. I’m sick of the current stuff on TV so I’m revisiting old shows and I’m finding Smallville to be completely rewatchable. It’s even fun to remember how dumb Lana was throughout the seasons. Smallville is a feel good show, has very few episodes I want to skip, and seeing all the people that did cameos is fun. I love the discussions about how some things just didn’t make sense in each episode, but they had to happen so the show could happen. Thanks guys!
Thanks again Michael, Tom and Ryan for a great podcast. So much going on in Zero. Excited though for Nicodemus....much to discuss (and possibly more than a few laughs) in that one xx #AlwaysholdontoSmallville #AlwayslistentoTalkVille
Whooooole lot to discuss ❤️
AppleDopple! ❤
@@karenmarshall2045 YES Irra, it is ME!! 😀
13:47 Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the significance of the music choice that blasts out of Lex's car is intentional because its the same music that was playing when Jude was killed in the club, so its intended to "trigger" Lex
I'll give this episode🌹🌹🌹I think the dead cattle scene was stunning even the sky had a dreyere look☁️☁️☁️☁️☁️with all those thick clouds,boy mic how they had you upside down😱😱that was very uncomfortable for you as I heard you describe it il text some more on the other page thanks guys ❤👍
Huge score think this one will end up being very high 🌹🌹🌹
@@TalkVillePodcast thank you❤
Who was behind the adoption. It is revealed in future episode. (No spoilers not saying more)
Michael killed it as Lex in this one! One of my favorite episodes of the series! 🌹🌹
Hello Michael and Tom 😉 A very nice serie. I'm a fan of the clark and lex characters ✌️
Knowing what Rosey went through now hanging upside down, you can tell he's not really having to act when the ep opens. 🤣
Thought this was a very enjoyable episode! Was good to see a further backstory for Lex.
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Michael, regarding the hand scene you should've quoted Pete: Damn!
didnt we see Clark's ship in ep 1? when Jon Kent said Clark's not human and needed to show him something
I always thought the Appletini was Amanda's drink of choice and Lex, trying to play the part of the best friend would join her in her favorite drink, even if he found it revolting, just to further that connection and impression that he was there for her.
True. I agreee. Also, in the historical context of when the show was made, I think Appletinis were a drink of choice. I'm pretty sure they were mentioned in SATC which is roughly the same era. 🍸