@@OuterHavenMediauh well to be fair and in his defense the actress Sarah Carter she is hot and is a very attractive woman so why wouldn't Tom remember her.😂
Guys I just want to let you both know I've been fighting cancer and this podcast helps me take my mind off things. Thank you. Tom knows me as the watch guy. If he remembers. Lol
Jesus died for our sins on the cross. He paid the price of our deaths and came back to life, to give us eternal life. If we repent from everything bad that we've done, and make Him the Lord of our life, He will do it. He loves us and that's why He wants to deliver our souls from hell. I invite you to come closer to Jesus, read the Bible, pray every day and find a Christian Church to assist. A life lived by God’s side, is worth living.
Really liked Alicia and I’m still a little bitter about how the character ended up. Great job guys, Ryan’s explanation of the dynamic between Clark and Alecia was excellent!
Yep, someone said last season or whenever that Ryan doesn't even watch episodes because he doesn't talk much, and while it's obviously true he doesn't talk much, but when he actually does get a chance to say something, I think his insights are always great, like in this case.
Awesome. You can tell who Tom had the most fun with when he worked because he remembers stuff. That's why I can't wait until Justin Hartley and Erica Durance show up! he remembers a lot of stuff with them bc he had a lot of fun and laughs with them, same age and same kind of people like Tom. I talked to him at a con and he was giving me insight into some random costume Erica was wearing that I even forgot about LOL. Season 4 and on are going to be so much fun! Especially with the Justice League and move to Metropolis in S5 and then Oliver Queen showing up in Season 6. Can't wait! Keep up the great work guys.
Justin Hartley couldn't see at night running on top of roof wearing dark sunglasses 😎🕶️ and hood . That what he said. And I thought that was both funny and dangerous at the same time. So in reality Green Arrow is really a superhero !
Clark/Alicia is one of the highlights of early Smallville. After so many eps of Clark feeling isolated, it was such a treat for him to be happy and find someone he didn't need to hide his powers from.
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More than that, she is someone who really understand his loneliness.
Alicia Baker had one of the best mini arches of the whole series. In this episode she wasn't only a FOTW, she leaves a mark in Clark deep enough to have her come back. So intense, so tragic.
I 100% agree. SPOILERS AHEAD. My only issue was how forgotten she was the very next episode after she got murdered. I wish her death lingered more at least for the rest of the season. Like you said, one of my favorite mini arches in the entire series.
I had (and may still have) the biggest crush on Sarah Carter. She was so adorable that even when she was supposed to be creepy, I still liked her. I was actually happy when she came back and wish they had given her character more story.
Obsession was Clark's sexual awakening on this show. Al and Miles couldn't have picked anyone better to play Alicia Baker. Sarah isn't just drop dead gorgeous, she's an excellent actress: She could be sexy, sweet, sad or scary and switch to the required demeanor immaculately. She was also the only girl to make Clark act relaxed and silly, that's why she felt like a breath of fresh air compared to Lana. She became such a fan favorite that they brought her back the following season.
Yeahh, that bugs me most about this show. Always wanted to see more of the refreshing storylines, friendships and normal activity’s growing up. They focus a lot on the angst and in certain storylines they drag it more than i find it comfortable, especially s5 forward it’s frustrating that it gets so depressing.
Alicia played by Sarah Carter was one of my favorite guest stars on Smallville. She did a fantastic job. 😊 "There are three roses!!!!". *Best Picard impression. Lol 😂
I can't believe Michael was tempted to give less than a rose for this one haha. I think Michael is just already tired of this show when it's not one of the like 4 really tight pivotal episodes per season. Believe me I'm the first to admit Smallville is almost constantly flawed, but this one clearly rises above average. (I will also admit it wasn't quite as groundbreaking as I'd remembered, you really need to see her full arc so this one is even better in that context.)
@@jerodast Yeah, the next 2 episodes she's in (back to back) are much better. One of them is possibly the most important episode in the series. Pariah. That one is easily 2 roses for the important plot development.
Eight minutes into the show, but I thought I just answer Michael's question about anyone seeing Clark's heat vision. Al and Miles stated that they had a clear vision for this unique ability. They wanted Clark to wield his heat vision without anyone noticing even if he was using it in front of someone, prompting the development of the subtle yet fascinating 'invisible heat wave' concept. Unlike the iconic red or blue heat vision seen in Supergirl, this choice was deliberate to maintain Clark's discreet use of his power in front of others. As the seasons progress, we witness Clark's growing strength, which leads to a captivating transformation of his heat vision, transitioning from a wavy invisibility to the more traditional red when he is using at full maximum power, his pupils literally change.
We have seen Clark's eyes go red a bit already in the show. I never watched the later seasons, I'll have to keep an eye out for the evolution of it, interesting.
In Season 6 - "Promise" we see how Lana sees Clark use his heat vision and speed. Only the affect of the heat vision is seen...and when he speeds away...its like he vanishes...without the whooshing sound affect. Cool to have that perspective clear things up for us. It also really helps sell Lana's shocked reaction, finally witnessing some of Clark's power.
@@jerodast I don't know why I'm still up at 4:56 am, but I can't seem to sleep. So, I'm going to share the episode for you, so you can skip ahead and see it if you want. In season 6, episode 21, around the "31:42 mark" of that video, Clark is fighting a super soldier who has the ability to generate a force field. This force field he generates is so strong that Oliver tells him the only way to penetrate it is with an explosion equivalent to a nuclear blast. To defeat the shield, Clark generates enough heat from his eyes to penetrate it, the equivalent of nuclear explosion. Now, you are correct that Clark's eyes turn red when he uses his heat vision, but normally it's only the outer rim that changes colour to red, and the pupils turn dark black, In this particular instance, his entire eye turns bright red including the pupil and beam becomes red. This is the only time that Clark has ever generate an explosion equivalent to a nuclear explosion, and his eyes never turn red like that again.
Although he never uses the nuclear heat beam again, and his eyes, including the pupils, never become bright red again, the wavy heat beam does change and becomes a lighter reddish color as the season progresses. However, at times when Clark uses it, the wavy beam still appears somewhat invisible.
@@Soundwave927 That episode was so cool, and I was so happy that she finally got to see Clark use his powers after six years. I like that it was done from Lana's perspective
She actually makes an appearance TWICE after this episode. I loved Alicia and the fact that Clark could finally be himself around someone and also explore more sexually, too. He was more free spirited around her I feel!
I liked the fact that writers decided to show Clark's sexual awakening to the audiences, not only that but also the detail that he wasn't an expert or anxious in that subject. I also think that this story should've been a two-parter. And finally I enjoyed that Tom didn't have some sort of selective amnesia about the bedroom scene 😂😂😂
I liked how this episode introduced Clark's relationship with Alicia. Especially since she had powers just like him. I think Lana needs to rethink her relationship choices 😭 Also really liked the chemistry between Clark and Alicia. Thank you guys! ❤️
I loved Alicia’s character, especially when she comes back. You guys should have Sarah as a guest on the podcast when the next episode with her comes up!
I Love this episode, the character of Alicia is one of my favorite side characters. The chemistry between Tom and Sarah is absolutely great. It’s so effortless and natural. She was such a breath of fresh air from the whole Clark/ Lana situation.
I remember when I first watched this particular episode, I was completely taken in by Sarah Carter's beauty. I wonder if there's any chance to get her on this podcast for next season. I would honestly love to hear her experiences on Smallville, working on set, working with Tom. Really anything that comes to mind. Just anything of her time on Smallville.
@@Costas22I hope they can get Sarah on the podcast too. This was one of my favorite episodes. From a females point of view it was Hot seeing Tom’s character being somewhat powerless with her charm.
I’m a straight female and even I had a crush on Sarah Carter. 😂 She’s beautiful and just too good. Please try to get her on for her 2 episodes (back to back) in season 4! Her mini arch is one of the best of the whole show IMO. The repercussions…
When Alicia comes back for a couple of episodes in season 4, she has some of the best character development. She definitely had a lasting impact on Clark, but more importantly her actions had a massive impact on the eventually character development of Chloe as well
Bingo, I joke that Alicia realized her real competition was her bizarro twin in Chloe who in her own way was in love obsessed with Clark but instead chose devoted friendship BFF
Well Alicia Baker really really wanted Chloe Sullivan to be her bridesmaid and friend so she told Chloe Sullivan a secret that Clark Kent is really Superboy. I'm forever excited for Chloe Sullivan being the best secret keeper for life as well as Pete Ross was already known that Clark was Superboy . And what is Soo funny was Clark Kent lost his memory to a robber with meteor Kryptonite rock infect power to erased a minute to longer time memories of Clark Kent and Clark Kent doesn't even know he's Superboy when his parents wasn't even at home and Chloe Sullivan decided to be a adult baby sitter and protector and secret identity protector for Clark Kent to it's Soo funny how Clark reveals almost all his superhero powers to Chloe additional she didn't know he had but kept quiet to anyone else closer to him Clark Kent and didn't even confined to Clark's parents and Pete Ross until must must later next season until Chloe Sullivan getting in trouble with Lionel Luther and the meteor shower again in " Smallville," season number 04 episode 22 " COMMENCEMENT," public highschool graduation in Smallville. And Clark Kent Kryptonite key crystals made Ice Castle 🏯 of Krypton Crystals at the North Pole. Original airdate 5-18-2005 Jor-El speaks not the name brand soap called Jor-El.
@@richa.s9912 Just recently watched the S4 episodes with Alicia and didn't remember her ever being friendly buddy with Chloe to want her to be her bridesmaid don't know where you got it unless a comicbook redid the story. She told Chloe becuz when things went bad about the guy attacking Lana making it look like her yet Clark still loved her, she felt Chloe would be the only one to understand why, thus to expose Clark's abilities. btw for SMALLVILLE Clark's his proper name is KAL EL and superpowered sounds better as they did not want to call this/him Super'BOY'.
I believe the reason Lana didn't use any karate moves, unlike when she fought Chloe, was that it wasn't truly her. While it was technically Lana, she was under the influence of a potent hypnosis, devoid of all doubt and fear. Instead, she was single-mindedly focused on a lethal mission, similar to when you hypnotize someone and instruct them to stand on the edge of a rooftop. I think the moment she began to feel fear was when she attempted to step back, possibly to create some distance for a back kick (Lana's favourite kick). To her surprise, Alicia was suddenly behind her, and the look on Lana's face seemed to say, "How did you get there? You were just behind me." This might explain why Lana ran away rather than trying to fight.
Her comeback is one of the most important episodes in Clark and eventually Supermans Mythos. A milestone in the development and foundation of his ultimate morality.
I really can’t wait to hear what you guys have to say about “Unsafe” next season… The (almost) sex scene in that episode with Clark and Alicia in the hotel room was so spicy, I’m still shocked it was allowed on cable TV. 😂
The WB/CW was actually broadcast TV even :) But yeah even in this one, the close up shots of very skimpily clad body parts was way more intense than the show has gotten before. We had the girl's locker room an episode or two ago but that was just background. This was a deliberate choice to amp it up, and it was actually much less gratuitous.
HAHA I LOVED Obsession, quirky, super obsessed Alicia Baker, loved how she made Clark so giggly and clumsy. It was great to hear how it was for Tom to live out probably every teenage boy's nightmare to have their dad walk in on them with a scantily clad girl in their bed. It was interesting to hear how that scene was shot. That is why I love all of these snippets. Keep up the good work, Talk Ville 🥰🥰😘😘💞💞
You know she was a big hit when she got the honor of coming back for a 2nd episode. That is rarified air. That said she was criminally underused with how good the chemistry was between her and Tom. This happens a few times over the course of the show where I wish a certain actor had a semi-long term run during a season. Anyway, good episode :D
Internet fandom was nothing like it is today when Smallville came out, and it's been fun to hang out around reddit and whatnot now to talk about the show. But the first time I saw that Clark/Alicia was such a popular pairing, I just couldn't believe it, based on my memories. But rewatching Obsession for the first time in probably 20 years, for the first 1/3 or so, she and Clark were really just absolutely adorable. They seemed like teens trying to navigate liking each other and being able to be open and honest about themselves and I was like "Wait...do they work? DOES THIS MAKE SENSE?!" And then the episode continued and no, Alicia's just the worst (but Sarah Carter is great!). But I really enjoyed this episode. It may have originally aired in February, but it was a perfect one to watch on a chilly October night.
I mean...she's crazy, so that's bad. But obviously the sweet connection they had at the beginning IS a part of her, so if you could just extract the psychopathic part, you can see why the fans would have some wishful thinking about it!
Night attack when Alicia teleported into Clark's bed was the best scene. It was pretty aggressive😮😊. Always enjoyed Obsession, pretty good episode, chemistry between them was great. Alicia was definitely fan favorite character. The only thing I didn't like was when Alicia attempted to kill Lana. That was tiresome, poor Lana. It seems that every citizen of Smallville tried to kill Lana at least once. Carter next Talkville guest, please🙂
Well I hope she's not the NEXT guest, because we won't see her until season 4, and it'd be great to get some people in before then :) But definitely a very welcome guest when the time comes!
Sarah Carter should definitely be the next Talkville guest. Would have loved to have had her on this one even. To say we were all enamored with her is the absolute Truth. She was so stunning back during her Smallville time, still is today. Really bringing that beauty as well as charm to the character of Alicia. Always love this podcast and you wonderful cool guys!😀🙏❤❤❤
Alicia was pretty and had a cute side but she also was very manipulative and a creep. I romantized Clark and Alicia's relationship as a kid but rewatching this episode as an adult I realized how disturbing their relationship quickly became. If a man was doing the stuff Alicia did to Clark he would be called a creep and a psycho. What she was doing after their date was basically sexual harrasment, I mean showing up to his bedroom uninvited, putting pics of her in his locker and loft without his consent, her being pushy... I feel like her toxic personality get overlook by most fans because she was pretty and made clark giddy at the beginning. I thought Alicia was a great freak of the week but her relationship with clark was not healthy at all.
I agree people would see the bedroom scene differently with gender reversed, but on the other hand there's NO doubt everyone in town thinks Alicia's a psycho by the end. Really just starting with the locker scene, the show had clearly turned on her. While some of the hormonal audience might've still thought "well...maybe it's still worth it?" at that point, she was heading past the creepy line at full speed already :)
@@douglaswouglas your statement would be true if people weren't already praising their relationship in "Obsession". And the thing is even when she came back supposedly cured in S4 she drugged Clark and tried to sexually take advantage of him. She also betrayed him by telling his secrets to Chloe when she promised him that she wouldn't tell anyone. Alicia didn't deserve to die but she sure did a lot of intentional messed up things to Clark that for some reasons get overlook or romantize by the fandom.
During one of my binge watching of the series, I actually documented everyone who found out Clark's secret: the ones who lived, the ones who died and the ones who forgot about it. :D Up to this point, 18 people who knew it, died. Lex found out in Nicodemus, but forgot about it afterwards. Chloe found out in the episode where she and Pete were stung by that creature in the cave, but forgot about it after being cured. Perry White sort of found out, but he thinks the alcohol fooled him. And Lex found out again when he went crazy, but forgot about it due to his shock therapy.
Sarah Carter playing Alicia Baker was just perfect. She to me was a fan favorite. I liked her more than Kruek's Lana Lang. It's literally a Fatal Attraction storyline coming into play. She just looks stunning. I feel Tom and Sarah just had incredible chemistry. Her return in Season 4 is very integral especially pushing Chloe's storyline.
Interesting nobody on the pod brought up _Fatal Attraction_ or the likely inspiration for the episode, _Swimfan_ released two years earlier as essentially a (critically panned) teen remake of the more famous movie. Doing a Smallville version of _2 Fast 2 Furious,_ not so great, but this adaptation worked well :)
Great episode!!! This pod just keeps getting better and better! Alicia is a landmark character for the series and integral to Clark’s Smallville journey. Definitely try and get Sarah to come on the show, TalkVille team!
i remember watching as a kid and absolutely loving Clark and Alicia’s whole arc. the chemistry between them was incredible to watch! now as an adult i wish Tom and Sarah would do another show/movie together
I LOVED this episode and Sarah as Alicia! I was soooo hopeful for Clark in this episode until things went haywire 😂 But as Tom said she comes back for one of the MOST IMPORTANT episodes of the whole series!!!! 🤫 ❤
Lets be honest. We all had a crush on Sarah Carter after we first watched this episode. 😊 And while he may not admit it, I think she's the guest star Tom said he had a crush on when he did Michael's podcast a few years ago.
I agreed. I think he downplayed it cause he was dating Jamie White exclusively. Having a little crush isn't a problem.Acting on it might though depending on one's given situation.....she is really quite stunning though! I think we all had a little crush on her.
@@ChuckDogg I was banking on it being Pascale Hutton. She plays Raya, his friend from the Phantom Zone. She has some overtly sexual overtones about her, immensely graceful. That or maybe Simone, the gorgeous blond with the blue hypnotize pendant.
Sarah is my favorite side character of the whole series.Her last episode of the series is my favorite of the entire series. I can't wait till you guys get to it.And you should definitely try to get Sarah on for that one.Such a huge episode!
I think everyone can agree that we all fell in love with sarah carter in this episode regardless of how crazy her character was in the show. lol I'm going to send this episode to her to watch.
Don't worry about Lana Lang and Lois Lane and Pete Ross and lex Luther not making it to next t.v. shows because whatever kinds of Health Insurance coverage they gotten from their parents and guardian better be a millionaire and billionaires keeping them healthy and having the biggest advanced technology hospital in Smallville, Kansas and hospital probably has Krypton planet medicine 💊. To mending broken bones and heads in few hours and then go home in one day only .
I love this episode and Alicia is one of my favorite side characters on the entire show. I really feel like she could've been one of Clark's greatest allies... once she recovers from her obsession. Can't wait for her return in TWO episodes next season.
This is by far one of my favorite episodes of the whole show, that scene where Alicia looks on at Clark from her bedroom as he leaves whilst "One Thing" by Finger Eleven is playing in the background always hits me straight in the feels 🥹🥹❤❤
To me it was such a nice change to see Clark actually happy in an episode as opposed to being so tortured. Loved the Clark Alicia arc, episodes i always tend to lean towards if rewatching any random episodes :)
I loved this episode. Clark was blindsided repeatedly by Alicia. Michael's advise was cool. I can't wait to hear the next two times she is in those episodes. keep it up, guys. Love you both.
Honestly, Alicia has always been one of my favorite side characters on the show. Her connection with Clark & the tragedy of it all at always killed me 😭 I loved every episode she was in and loved how Clark was with her
While I did like this episode, the two-episode arch that Alicia has in season 4 is really a high spot for me in the series. It brings an emotion to the series that I really don't think there had been to that point. Can't wait to get there with you guys!
I remember watching Smallville and talking to friends about it. Sarah was one of our favourite characters and became known within our friend group as "scare-dorable" because she was scary but also adorable.
So glad we've gotten to one of my favorite episodes that introduces the fan favorite character of Alicia. Loved how they introduced her, via being trapped in the LuthorCorp elevator. And how both she and Clark have to use their powers to escape. Such a cool scene.
I do think she was debating whether to ditch Clark or save him. But then he made the decision for her! At least she didn't just nope out at the first sign of trouble haha.
At 41:13 I agree with Tom because they needed to establish Alicia as the obsessed character before showing her redemption arc. It's possible that the writers had plans for her character's return, but even if they didn't they left the ending open for her to come. Without giving two much away she returns for two more episode and she is not same cruel, obsessive person she was. IMHO without first showing the extreme, the character redemption wouldn't have been as impactful. This situation reminds me of Zuko in the "Last Airbender" animation. Zuko starts as an arrogant, narcissistic bully who cares about no one but himself with only one mission in life, capture the last Airbender, return him to his father and have his title and glory restored, but as the series progresses, he undergoes a significant transformation, ultimately learning to care for others and he and the Airbender would go on to be friends for the next six decades.
Love yall guys, I've been here since the first episode, along with (Inside of you). Can't wait to get to season 10 and look back at the journey we've been on.
Loved the episode and Sarah Carter's performance. One minor complaint: Smallville is a tiny town so Smallville High can't have more than a few hundred students. Everyone knows everyone there, so it is not believable that a student could attend for any length of time but other students don't know them.
Despite the name I don't think Smallville is THAT small! According to the "Welcome to Smallville" sign on the outskirts of town the population is 45,001. It's a farming community with much of the population really spread out. And as someone who grew up in a town off only 15,000 I can attest to the fact that someone really can disappear in the cracks pretty easily
So, first of all the other characters do know her, they just think she's stuck up and keeps to herself. I like how she implied that and thought "well at least this isn't another transfer student like they were complaining about in 'Hereafter'" - then they complain about it anyway because they don't pay attention haha. But also I always felt like _Smallville_ was like, a medium sized town in a rural area, and maybe the high school serves a bunch of neighboring areas that barely have a main street, that kind of thing.
This was such a fun episode to me. It was nice to see Clark with someone. Then hated when she goes crazy. ❤ Love that they bring her back later! Wanted to get a question in for this but missed it.
Usually listen on Spotify but wanted to jump in and say I really enjoy doing the watchbacks with you guys and it's great Ryan seems to be getting into the show Also, this episode is so awkward 😅
I remember seeing Sarah in one thing before Smallville; Final Destination 2! She was the friend of the main character (played by Criminal Mind's A.J. Cook) who was sitting in the front seat of the SUV. She was killed off in the first 10 minutes!
Alicia in all her episodes was absolutely stunning and played her character so well. I started hoping Alicia would take Lana's spot as Clark's crush. Perhaps in Clark's final years of HS his preferences changed. I knew that wouldn't happen but still. It was so refreshing to see someone so open that Clark was open with in turn.
I think that's exactly why (Spoiler Alert!) they had to kill her off, because her chemistry with Clark was so strong that many of us would want her instead of Lana or Lois to be with Clark
If that bedroom scene with Alicia was steamy, then you're in for a wild ride for S4EP11🤪(she returns for two more episodes and ugh the end of the second episode HURT). I really enjoyed this episode. Sarah Carter was great as Alicia. Clark finally found a girl he could open up to and she turns out to be psychotic. It's such a shame for him. I think, even if it wasn't explained what happened to Alicia after Clark exploded the red paint on her, it was implied that she would most likely been taken to Belle Reve. I don't believe she was innately bad, she just needed serious help. And probably should've gotten that help much, much sooner.
This was one of my favorite episodes and characters and Sarah is an awesome actresses. This deserves 🌹🌹🌹you guys are too tough. I wish she could have been a re-occuring character throughout the entire series.
Sarah was too sweet to be believable as a psycho. There's a moment when Clark opens the door for her, and she thanks him. Don't know if that was scripted, or not, but she was just so believable as a sweet person. She definitely should have a much bigger role in the show. I'm pretty sure she's my favorite guest star of the whole series.
Looking GREAT, Tom! Glad Tom enjoyed "Obsession" enough for 1.5 Roses! Alicia Baker will return in Season Four's Episodes 11 "UNSAFE" & 12 "PARIAH", so fingers are crossed for Sarah Carter to appear on the podcast! #HappyTwentyTwoYears
Smallville may have run for 11 seasons, but it says everything that we all remember Sarah Carter as Alicia, and all still think about the chemistry that was lighting up the screen with her and Tom! DAMN! I actually used to wonder if she had been a prime contender for the role of Lana before Kristen got the role or if they had to kill the character of Alicia off because the chemistry between Tom and Sarah was so much stronger on screen than Tom and Kristen! Regardless... I don't remember a lot of episodes, but I distinctly remember all of hers! Totally unforgettable!
All the leading guys, might have to look into Buffy and Charmed to see if there were any characters from there she dated. Spike aka James joined the show in season 5 but they never dated 😂
The Brazilian actress carla diaz remember a lot sarah carter and she plays a movie from a criminal true history ( suzane von richtofen) both are great artists.
This was one of my favorite episodes in of the season, we have seen so many versions of Fatal Attraction, Was this the first Sci-fi version? Alicia went from the Girl Next Door to extremely scary. Of course we know their story moving foward.
I’ve always had a crush on Sarah Carter ever since I saw this episode of Smallville. Saw her again in the crappy video game movie “Dead Or Alvie: DOA”. She was a lead character. A pivotal character. She’s an absolute eye candy. I like that she’s Canadian too 😍🇨🇦
"Obsession" was a good episode, and witnessing Clark's first attempt at sex was funny. Typically, Martha's reactions are comically awkward when Clark talks about girls or when she catches him with one, but in this instance, her composed response seemed fitting - a rare occasion indeed. The actress who played Alicia did a great job and I am glad she is back even if it is only for two episodes.
Great episode. Sarah carter. Amazing actress. The flow snd the acting all around was actually what made the storyline feel so natural. And. I think the main reason Lionel is so crazy is something yall maybe forgot. He has already been diagnosed with that terminal liver disease. He was in desperate mode trying to find a cure. That is why season 3 and 4 he is at his most desperate and crazy
This is an easy 2 roses. It starts so sweet and turns into a horror movie. Sometimes, you dont need demons coming out of hell. All you need is a girl with a knife. She was amazing, just killed it from the obsession to even the walk and her movements. Great actress. Great horror episode. Haven't seen this podcast episode yet, but if Rosenbaum shits on this, saying he likes horror, THEN IM SHITING ON ROSENBAUM!!!
Yeah! The vibe with her mom just telling Clark "oh, I don't think so, if she says you're together, then that's what's happening..." was nice and creepy. I mean, a pretty straightforward psycho horror story, but it was solid! Maybe they should've shelled out for a prop knife not made of cardboard though :)
🤔 theory: interesting that the elevator in a multi-billion dollar company just happens to fail when the 2 "powered" kids from smallville are in it. Now, the audience doesn't know this yet, but Lionel KNOWS that Clark is special and maybe suspects Alicia. Is it possible that he rigged the elevator accident to see what at least Clark would do?
I love how Tom remembers so little from the series but has a photographic memory for everything Alicia. 😂
I was thinking the same 😂
@@OuterHavenMediauh well to be fair and in his defense the actress Sarah Carter she is hot and is a very attractive woman so why wouldn't Tom remember her.😂
@@coreynance3874 He mentioned that she was also professional to work with and they got along. Its nice to find that in another actor.
She looks like his current wife 😉
I mean yeah she was 🔥 in many ways lol. A strong guest character and then sad to see the quick loss of the Adam character. 🤷♀️
Guys I just want to let you both know I've been fighting cancer and this podcast helps me take my mind off things. Thank you. Tom knows me as the watch guy. If he remembers. Lol
Sorry Jeremy for what you are going through, it must be really tough. Blessings from South Africa.
Go for it champ, you can get throught this.
My prayers are with you brother. Keep fighting and stay strong!
Jesus died for our sins on the cross. He paid the price of our deaths and came back to life, to give us eternal life. If we repent from everything bad that we've done, and make Him the Lord of our life, He will do it. He loves us and that's why He wants to deliver our souls from hell.
I invite you to come closer to Jesus, read the Bible, pray every day and find a Christian Church to assist. A life lived by God’s side, is worth living.
Keep fighting man. You got this 🙏🏾
I love how its just universal that we all love Sarah Carter.
Really liked Alicia and I’m still a little bitter about how the character ended up.
Great job guys, Ryan’s explanation of the dynamic between Clark and Alecia was excellent!
Yep, someone said last season or whenever that Ryan doesn't even watch episodes because he doesn't talk much, and while it's obviously true he doesn't talk much, but when he actually does get a chance to say something, I think his insights are always great, like in this case.
Alicia Baker is Sarah Carter.
Awesome. You can tell who Tom had the most fun with when he worked because he remembers stuff. That's why I can't wait until Justin Hartley and Erica Durance show up! he remembers a lot of stuff with them bc he had a lot of fun and laughs with them, same age and same kind of people like Tom. I talked to him at a con and he was giving me insight into some random costume Erica was wearing that I even forgot about LOL. Season 4 and on are going to be so much fun! Especially with the Justice League and move to Metropolis in S5 and then Oliver Queen showing up in Season 6. Can't wait! Keep up the great work guys.
Same! I'm so excited for season 4 and onwards for the same reason, I can't wait! lol
Justin Hartley couldn't see at night running on top of roof wearing dark sunglasses 😎🕶️ and hood . That what he said. And I thought that was both funny and dangerous at the same time. So in reality Green Arrow is really a superhero !
Clark/Alicia is one of the highlights of early Smallville. After so many eps of Clark feeling isolated, it was such a treat for him to be happy and find someone he didn't need to hide his powers from.
More than that, she is someone who really understand his loneliness.
Yes. Sarah comes back. Get her on the Talkville!!. two of the best episodes from the entire series and she was in it.
3 episodes. She has 2 episodes next season
@@ryebread095Yes but the 3rd episode was not good 😥
done
Yeah but can y’all get Sam jones on? Lol
@@OuterHavenMedia It was good (love mind-fucked Chole, when she finds out)...but it's also depressing and sad.
Had a MASSIVE crush on the Alicia actress as a kid!😂😂Definitely was one of my first TV loves lol. Can't wait to watch!
Alicia Baker had one of the best mini arches of the whole series. In this episode she wasn't only a FOTW, she leaves a mark in Clark deep enough to have her come back. So intense, so tragic.
I 100% agree. SPOILERS AHEAD. My only issue was how forgotten she was the very next episode after she got murdered. I wish her death lingered more at least for the rest of the season. Like you said, one of my favorite mini arches in the entire series.
gotta get her on next
@@TalkVillePodcast Bro you will never get Sarah Carter.. but if you do then you are my King!
@sxhbk why do you say that?
She was the first person to really accept him for what he was
I had (and may still have) the biggest crush on Sarah Carter. She was so adorable that even when she was supposed to be creepy, I still liked her. I was actually happy when she came back and wish they had given her character more story.
Loved Sarah on Dark Angel as a transgenic feline, and she was hot as hell for her guest spot on Entourage.
She was great in Falling Skies
Obsession was Clark's sexual awakening on this show. Al and Miles couldn't have picked anyone better to play Alicia Baker. Sarah isn't just drop dead gorgeous, she's an excellent actress: She could be sexy, sweet, sad or scary and switch to the required demeanor immaculately. She was also the only girl to make Clark act relaxed and silly, that's why she felt like a breath of fresh air compared to Lana.
She became such a fan favorite that they brought her back the following season.
She's really so good.
You mean aside from the episode where he developed heat vision because he was hot for teacher?
She's kinda plain
@@-M0LE I know a good oculist, if you're interested.
@@Costas22 😂 I'm from UK we got different tastes I don't like plastic looking women with tons of makeup but Americans do
This felt like a “super” comfortable episode for the three of you. Well done, glad to see you guys still going.
suuuuuuper comfortable
If you only get Sarah for one episode, definitely get her for the second one. That episode is definitely one of the top episodes of the series.
100%
done
Definitely! Such a good episode
I've been saving a call-in question for that episode.
Agreed. I actually loved the Alicia arc. The second one was amazing and gut wrenching
Loved seeing Clark have a minute of teen normalcy instead of drama! ❤
Yeahh, that bugs me most about this show. Always wanted to see more of the refreshing storylines, friendships and normal activity’s growing up. They focus a lot on the angst and in certain storylines they drag it more than i find it comfortable, especially s5 forward it’s frustrating that it gets so depressing.
I love the episodes that have romance with Clark. This was cute how Alicia make Clark powerless with his feelings. 🙂
Tom not remembering so many scenes throughout this podcast run but recalling several details in scenes with Alicia/Sarah
Who could forget that woman? Especially after having her in lingerie in the 2 episodes in which she appeared. =D Damn lucky dog.
Alicia played by Sarah Carter was one of my favorite guest stars on Smallville. She did a fantastic job. 😊
"There are three roses!!!!". *Best Picard impression. Lol 😂
I can't believe Michael was tempted to give less than a rose for this one haha. I think Michael is just already tired of this show when it's not one of the like 4 really tight pivotal episodes per season. Believe me I'm the first to admit Smallville is almost constantly flawed, but this one clearly rises above average. (I will also admit it wasn't quite as groundbreaking as I'd remembered, you really need to see her full arc so this one is even better in that context.)
@@jerodast Yeah, the next 2 episodes she's in (back to back) are much better. One of them is possibly the most important episode in the series. Pariah. That one is easily 2 roses for the important plot development.
Eight minutes into the show, but I thought I just answer Michael's question about anyone seeing Clark's heat vision. Al and Miles stated that they had a clear vision for this unique ability. They wanted Clark to wield his heat vision without anyone noticing even if he was using it in front of someone, prompting the development of the subtle yet fascinating 'invisible heat wave' concept. Unlike the iconic red or blue heat vision seen in Supergirl, this choice was deliberate to maintain Clark's discreet use of his power in front of others.
As the seasons progress, we witness Clark's growing strength, which leads to a captivating transformation of his heat vision, transitioning from a wavy invisibility to the more traditional red when he is using at full maximum power, his pupils literally change.
We have seen Clark's eyes go red a bit already in the show. I never watched the later seasons, I'll have to keep an eye out for the evolution of it, interesting.
In Season 6 - "Promise" we see how Lana sees Clark use his heat vision and speed. Only the affect of the heat vision is seen...and when he speeds away...its like he vanishes...without the whooshing sound affect. Cool to have that perspective clear things up for us. It also really helps sell Lana's shocked reaction, finally witnessing some of Clark's power.
@@jerodast I don't know why I'm still up at 4:56 am, but I can't seem to sleep. So, I'm going to share the episode for you, so you can skip ahead and see it if you want. In season 6, episode 21, around the "31:42 mark" of that video, Clark is fighting a super soldier who has the ability to generate a force field. This force field he generates is so strong that Oliver tells him the only way to penetrate it is with an explosion equivalent to a nuclear blast. To defeat the shield, Clark generates enough heat from his eyes to penetrate it, the equivalent of nuclear explosion. Now, you are correct that Clark's eyes turn red when he uses his heat vision, but normally it's only the outer rim that changes colour to red, and the pupils turn dark black, In this particular instance, his entire eye turns bright red including the pupil and beam becomes red. This is the only time that Clark has ever generate an explosion equivalent to a nuclear explosion, and his eyes never turn red like that again.
Although he never uses the nuclear heat beam again, and his eyes, including the pupils, never become bright red again, the wavy heat beam does change and becomes a lighter reddish color as the season progresses. However, at times when Clark uses it, the wavy beam still appears somewhat invisible.
@@Soundwave927 That episode was so cool, and I was so happy that she finally got to see Clark use his powers after six years. I like that it was done from Lana's perspective
Tom seems to remember a LOT more about this episode than he has about previous episodes. I wonder why....
She actually makes an appearance TWICE after this episode. I loved Alicia and the fact that Clark could finally be himself around someone and also explore more sexually, too. He was more free spirited around her I feel!
I liked the fact that writers decided to show Clark's sexual awakening to the audiences, not only that but also the detail that he wasn't an expert or anxious in that subject. I also think that this story should've been a two-parter. And finally I enjoyed that Tom didn't have some sort of selective amnesia about the bedroom scene 😂😂😂
I liked how this episode introduced Clark's relationship with Alicia. Especially since she had powers just like him. I think Lana needs to rethink her relationship choices 😭 Also really liked the chemistry between Clark and Alicia. Thank you guys! ❤️
Saw sa3h on Facebook and I was!. #
lots of chemistry
I loved Alicia’s character, especially when she comes back. You guys should have Sarah as a guest on the podcast when the next episode with her comes up!
I Love this episode, the character of Alicia is one of my favorite side characters. The chemistry between Tom and Sarah is absolutely great. It’s so effortless and natural. She was such a breath of fresh air from the whole Clark/ Lana situation.
Good job on Pete making Clark feel good about himself after his parents found out about him and his girl
I remember when I first watched this particular episode, I was completely taken in by Sarah Carter's beauty. I wonder if there's any chance to get her on this podcast for next season. I would honestly love to hear her experiences on Smallville, working on set, working with Tom. Really anything that comes to mind. Just anything of her time on Smallville.
Now that Tom reminded Michael that Alicia returns next season, there's no excuse NOT to have Sarah on the show.
I was begging for her to be on THIS episode but it didn't happen 😭
@@Costas22I hope they can get Sarah on the podcast too. This was one of my favorite episodes. From a females point of view it was Hot seeing Tom’s character being somewhat powerless with her charm.
you got it pal
Yes
I’m a straight female and even I had a crush on Sarah Carter. 😂 She’s beautiful and just too good.
Please try to get her on for her 2 episodes (back to back) in season 4! Her mini arch is one of the best of the whole show IMO. The repercussions…
😂😂 same!
Remember Alicia Baker is an instrumental character to an important part of the Chloe/Clark relationship too. IYKYK
Micheal's brain "how many times do i need to say 'hmmm' until i can change the subject to what i was going to say" 😂😂
When Alicia comes back for a couple of episodes in season 4, she has some of the best character development. She definitely had a lasting impact on Clark, but more importantly her actions had a massive impact on the eventually character development of Chloe as well
Bingo, I joke that Alicia realized her real competition was her bizarro twin in Chloe who in her own way was in love obsessed with Clark but instead chose devoted friendship BFF
Well Alicia Baker really really wanted Chloe Sullivan to be her bridesmaid and friend so she told Chloe Sullivan a secret that Clark Kent is really Superboy. I'm forever excited for Chloe Sullivan being the best secret keeper for life as well as Pete Ross was already known that Clark was Superboy . And what is Soo funny was Clark Kent lost his memory to a robber with meteor Kryptonite rock infect power to erased a minute to longer time memories of Clark Kent and Clark Kent doesn't even know he's Superboy when his parents wasn't even at home and Chloe Sullivan decided to be a adult baby sitter and protector and secret identity protector for Clark Kent to it's Soo funny how Clark reveals almost all his superhero powers to Chloe additional she didn't know he had but kept quiet to anyone else closer to him Clark Kent and didn't even confined to Clark's parents and Pete Ross until must must later next season until Chloe Sullivan getting in trouble with Lionel Luther and the meteor shower again in " Smallville," season number 04 episode 22 " COMMENCEMENT," public highschool graduation in Smallville. And Clark Kent Kryptonite key crystals made Ice Castle 🏯 of Krypton Crystals at the North Pole. Original airdate 5-18-2005 Jor-El speaks not the name brand soap called Jor-El.
@@richa.s9912 Just recently watched the S4 episodes with Alicia and didn't remember her ever being friendly buddy with Chloe to want her to be her bridesmaid don't know where you got it unless a comicbook redid the story.
She told Chloe becuz when things went bad about the guy attacking Lana making it look like her yet Clark still loved her, she felt Chloe would be the only one to understand why, thus to expose Clark's abilities. btw for SMALLVILLE Clark's his proper name is KAL EL and superpowered sounds better as they did not want to call this/him Super'BOY'.
I believe the reason Lana didn't use any karate moves, unlike when she fought Chloe, was that it wasn't truly her. While it was technically Lana, she was under the influence of a potent hypnosis, devoid of all doubt and fear. Instead, she was single-mindedly focused on a lethal mission, similar to when you hypnotize someone and instruct them to stand on the edge of a rooftop.
I think the moment she began to feel fear was when she attempted to step back, possibly to create some distance for a back kick (Lana's favourite kick). To her surprise, Alicia was suddenly behind her, and the look on Lana's face seemed to say, "How did you get there? You were just behind me." This might explain why Lana ran away rather than trying to fight.
Her comeback is one of the most important episodes in Clark and eventually Supermans Mythos. A milestone in the development and foundation of his ultimate morality.
I really can’t wait to hear what you guys have to say about “Unsafe” next season… The (almost) sex scene in that episode with Clark and Alicia in the hotel room was so spicy, I’m still shocked it was allowed on cable TV. 😂
The WB/CW was actually broadcast TV even :)
But yeah even in this one, the close up shots of very skimpily clad body parts was way more intense than the show has gotten before. We had the girl's locker room an episode or two ago but that was just background. This was a deliberate choice to amp it up, and it was actually much less gratuitous.
I always liked how they incorporated their powers into that scene.
Also Clark saying hell yes and then super speed away that was funny
HAHA I LOVED Obsession, quirky, super obsessed Alicia Baker, loved how she made Clark so giggly and clumsy. It was great to hear how it was for Tom to live out probably every teenage boy's nightmare to have their dad walk in on them with a scantily clad girl in their bed. It was interesting to hear how that scene was shot. That is why I love all of these snippets. Keep up the good work, Talk Ville 🥰🥰😘😘💞💞
That scene could be a sweet dream, or a beautiful nightmare.
You know she was a big hit when she got the honor of coming back for a 2nd episode. That is rarified air. That said she was criminally underused with how good the chemistry was between her and Tom. This happens a few times over the course of the show where I wish a certain actor had a semi-long term run during a season. Anyway, good episode :D
I said it once and I’ll say it again, Tom really liked and admired Allison. It always comes through when he talks about her!😊
I think that Rose and Bomb segment was the most I’ve ever heard Ryan defend the show 😂 Uh oh… is he starting to finally catch the Smallville bug?!
32:13 had me in tears. 😂 The tucking the arms away was adorable.
Tom does not wanting to end up in a few thousand fisting gifs haha.
Internet fandom was nothing like it is today when Smallville came out, and it's been fun to hang out around reddit and whatnot now to talk about the show. But the first time I saw that Clark/Alicia was such a popular pairing, I just couldn't believe it, based on my memories. But rewatching Obsession for the first time in probably 20 years, for the first 1/3 or so, she and Clark were really just absolutely adorable. They seemed like teens trying to navigate liking each other and being able to be open and honest about themselves and I was like "Wait...do they work? DOES THIS MAKE SENSE?!"
And then the episode continued and no, Alicia's just the worst (but Sarah Carter is great!).
But I really enjoyed this episode. It may have originally aired in February, but it was a perfect one to watch on a chilly October night.
I mean...she's crazy, so that's bad. But obviously the sweet connection they had at the beginning IS a part of her, so if you could just extract the psychopathic part, you can see why the fans would have some wishful thinking about it!
Night attack when Alicia teleported into Clark's bed was the best scene. It was pretty aggressive😮😊. Always enjoyed Obsession, pretty good episode, chemistry between them was great. Alicia was definitely fan favorite character. The only thing I didn't like was when Alicia attempted to kill Lana. That was tiresome, poor Lana. It seems that every citizen of Smallville tried to kill Lana at least once. Carter next Talkville guest, please🙂
Well I hope she's not the NEXT guest, because we won't see her until season 4, and it'd be great to get some people in before then :) But definitely a very welcome guest when the time comes!
I thought that scene was toooo sexy.
Alicia is the type of character I still remember vividly 15 years later. That's how gorgeous she was
Sarah Carter should definitely be the next Talkville guest. Would have loved to have had her on this one even. To say we were all enamored with her is the absolute Truth. She was so stunning back during her Smallville time, still is today. Really bringing that beauty as well as charm to the character of Alicia. Always love this podcast and you wonderful cool guys!😀🙏❤❤❤
Alicia was pretty and had a cute side but she also was very manipulative and a creep. I romantized Clark and Alicia's relationship as a kid but rewatching this episode as an adult I realized how disturbing their relationship quickly became. If a man was doing the stuff Alicia did to Clark he would be called a creep and a psycho. What she was doing after their date was basically sexual harrasment, I mean showing up to his bedroom uninvited, putting pics of her in his locker and loft without his consent, her being pushy... I feel like her toxic personality get overlook by most fans because she was pretty and made clark giddy at the beginning. I thought Alicia was a great freak of the week but her relationship with clark was not healthy at all.
I agree people would see the bedroom scene differently with gender reversed, but on the other hand there's NO doubt everyone in town thinks Alicia's a psycho by the end. Really just starting with the locker scene, the show had clearly turned on her. While some of the hormonal audience might've still thought "well...maybe it's still worth it?" at that point, she was heading past the creepy line at full speed already :)
I think it’s mainly her return in season 4 that made everyone love her arc
For once the pretty girl with powers is a creep I like that
@@alexpowers5117 creepy people ain't my type but to each their own I guess
@@douglaswouglas your statement would be true if people weren't already praising their relationship in "Obsession". And the thing is even when she came back supposedly cured in S4 she drugged Clark and tried to sexually take advantage of him. She also betrayed him by telling his secrets to Chloe when she promised him that she wouldn't tell anyone. Alicia didn't deserve to die but she sure did a lot of intentional messed up things to Clark that for some reasons get overlook or romantize by the fandom.
Its Crazy to think this past Monday its been 22 years since Smallville pilot
😮 I am so old 😂
@@MRuby-qb9bd me too
During one of my binge watching of the series, I actually documented everyone who found out Clark's secret: the ones who lived, the ones who died and the ones who forgot about it. :D
Up to this point, 18 people who knew it, died.
Lex found out in Nicodemus, but forgot about it afterwards.
Chloe found out in the episode where she and Pete were stung by that creature in the cave, but forgot about it after being cured.
Perry White sort of found out, but he thinks the alcohol fooled him.
And Lex found out again when he went crazy, but forgot about it due to his shock therapy.
Sarah Carter playing Alicia Baker was just perfect. She to me was a fan favorite. I liked her more than Kruek's Lana Lang. It's literally a Fatal Attraction storyline coming into play. She just looks stunning. I feel Tom and Sarah just had incredible chemistry. Her return in Season 4 is very integral especially pushing Chloe's storyline.
I love Sarah and Kristin, they were the perfect choices for their roles. Both gorgeous and they did great with the material they was given 💗
Agreed. Her episodes are my most rewatched.
FYI: Sarah Carter returned to the DC Universe playing a different character who went by Cicada II in CW's The Flash.
What season?? I stopped watching flash before this happened so now I need to watch it! 😂
Interesting nobody on the pod brought up _Fatal Attraction_ or the likely inspiration for the episode, _Swimfan_ released two years earlier as essentially a (critically panned) teen remake of the more famous movie. Doing a Smallville version of _2 Fast 2 Furious,_ not so great, but this adaptation worked well :)
Great episode!!! This pod just keeps getting better and better! Alicia is a landmark character for the series and integral to Clark’s Smallville journey. Definitely try and get Sarah to come on the show, TalkVille team!
i remember watching as a kid and absolutely loving Clark and Alicia’s whole arc. the chemistry between them was incredible to watch! now as an adult i wish Tom and Sarah would do another show/movie together
We love you Micheal and Tom ❤!!
I LOVED this episode and Sarah as Alicia! I was soooo hopeful for Clark in this episode until things went haywire 😂
But as Tom said she comes back for one of the MOST IMPORTANT episodes of the whole series!!!! 🤫 ❤
Lets be honest. We all had a crush on Sarah Carter after we first watched this episode. 😊
And while he may not admit it, I think she's the guest star Tom said he had a crush on when he did Michael's podcast a few years ago.
Yes! She was the first person to come to mind when they talked about that. They even specified that she was blonde.
Not a crush but I wanted my girlfriend to wear the same panties as Sarah did in smallville I don’t like thongs
I agreed. I think he downplayed it cause he was dating Jamie White exclusively.
Having a little crush isn't a problem.Acting on it might though depending on one's given situation.....she is really quite stunning though! I think we all had a little crush on her.
@@ChuckDogg I was banking on it being Pascale Hutton. She plays Raya, his friend from the Phantom Zone. She has some overtly sexual overtones about her, immensely graceful. That or maybe Simone, the gorgeous blond with the blue hypnotize pendant.
To be fair there's so many women on this show that would be hard not to fall in love with. Even Chloe and Kara.
Sarah is my favorite side character of the whole series.Her last episode of the series is my favorite of the entire series. I can't wait till you guys get to it.And you should definitely try to get Sarah on for that one.Such a huge episode!
I think everyone can agree that we all fell in love with sarah carter in this episode regardless of how crazy her character was in the show. lol I'm going to send this episode to her to watch.
agreed
Poor Lana, more concussions than a football player.
Don't worry about Lana Lang and Lois Lane and Pete Ross and lex Luther not making it to next t.v. shows because whatever kinds of Health Insurance coverage they gotten from their parents and guardian better be a millionaire and billionaires keeping them healthy and having the biggest advanced technology hospital in Smallville, Kansas and hospital probably has Krypton planet medicine 💊. To mending broken bones and heads in few hours and then go home in one day only .
Lana gets superpowers equal to Clarks in the end....things gets better for her😂
😂😂😂
I love this episode and Alicia is one of my favorite side characters on the entire show. I really feel like she could've been one of Clark's greatest allies... once she recovers from her obsession. Can't wait for her return in TWO episodes next season.
This is by far one of my favorite episodes of the whole show, that scene where Alicia looks on at Clark from her bedroom as he leaves whilst "One Thing" by Finger Eleven is playing in the background always hits me straight in the feels 🥹🥹❤❤
Talkville has opened my world up to a whole new vocabulary world:
Handblasts
Gripping the pole
Keep them coming! 😂
To me it was such a nice change to see Clark actually happy in an episode as opposed to being so tortured. Loved the Clark Alicia arc, episodes i always tend to lean towards if rewatching any random episodes :)
I hope y'all have a great rest of your week. Thanks for the great nostalgic content as usual fellas.
I loved this episode. Clark was blindsided repeatedly by Alicia. Michael's advise was cool. I can't wait to hear the next two times she is in those episodes. keep it up, guys. Love you both.
Honestly, Alicia has always been one of my favorite side characters on the show. Her connection with Clark & the tragedy of it all at always killed me 😭 I loved every episode she was in and loved how Clark was with her
might be the favorite of the season
@@TalkVillePodcasther two episodes next season are great as well
While I did like this episode, the two-episode arch that Alicia has in season 4 is really a high spot for me in the series. It brings an emotion to the series that I really don't think there had been to that point. Can't wait to get there with you guys!
I LOVE this episode!! Please please have Sarah on as a guest in the next episode she appears in!
I remember watching Smallville and talking to friends about it. Sarah was one of our favourite characters and became known within our friend group as "scare-dorable" because she was scary but also adorable.
Yes I agree she comes back for two more episodes PLEASE TRY to get her on the podcast that would be awesome! 🙏 ❤
Jonathan walks in and says "damn son! Who's that?"
So glad we've gotten to one of my favorite episodes that introduces the fan favorite character of Alicia. Loved how they introduced her, via being trapped in the LuthorCorp elevator. And how both she and Clark have to use their powers to escape. Such a cool scene.
I do think she was debating whether to ditch Clark or save him. But then he made the decision for her! At least she didn't just nope out at the first sign of trouble haha.
At 41:13 I agree with Tom because they needed to establish Alicia as the obsessed character before showing her redemption arc. It's possible that the writers had plans for her character's return, but even if they didn't they left the ending open for her to come. Without giving two much away she returns for two more episode and she is not same cruel, obsessive person she was. IMHO without first showing the extreme, the character redemption wouldn't have been as impactful. This situation reminds me of Zuko in the "Last Airbender" animation. Zuko starts as an arrogant, narcissistic bully who cares about no one but himself with only one mission in life, capture the last Airbender, return him to his father and have his title and glory restored, but as the series progresses, he undergoes a significant transformation, ultimately learning to care for others and he and the Airbender would go on to be friends for the next six decades.
Love yall guys, I've been here since the first episode, along with (Inside of you). Can't wait to get to season 10 and look back at the journey we've been on.
I'm surprised that Lana never suffered severe brain injuries from all times being knocked out for a million times. Lol 😅😅😅😅
Can’t wait to hear your thoughts on this one!! I love this podcast so much ❤ Thank you guys!! Happy Talk Ville Wednesday ❤☄️🌽
you're the best lil Lisa
@@TalkVillePodcast you’re the best ❤️
11:45 Michael, that's a terrible thing to say. It's not even funny.
Keep doing it guys, it’s awesome!!!
Loved the episode and Sarah Carter's performance. One minor complaint: Smallville is a tiny town so Smallville High can't have more than a few hundred students. Everyone knows everyone there, so it is not believable that a student could attend for any length of time but other students don't know them.
Despite the name I don't think Smallville is THAT small! According to the "Welcome to Smallville" sign on the outskirts of town the population is 45,001. It's a farming community with much of the population really spread out. And as someone who grew up in a town off only 15,000 I can attest to the fact that someone really can disappear in the cracks pretty easily
Point taken. But I doubt that someone with Alicia Baker's attributes could disappear easily. @@PhysicalMediaPreventsWea-bx1zm
So, first of all the other characters do know her, they just think she's stuck up and keeps to herself. I like how she implied that and thought "well at least this isn't another transfer student like they were complaining about in 'Hereafter'" - then they complain about it anyway because they don't pay attention haha.
But also I always felt like _Smallville_ was like, a medium sized town in a rural area, and maybe the high school serves a bunch of neighboring areas that barely have a main street, that kind of thing.
This was such a fun episode to me. It was nice to see Clark with someone. Then hated when she goes crazy. ❤ Love that they bring her back later! Wanted to get a question in for this but missed it.
Usually listen on Spotify but wanted to jump in and say I really enjoy doing the watchbacks with you guys and it's great Ryan seems to be getting into the show
Also, this episode is so awkward 😅
One of my favorite episodes
I remember seeing Sarah in one thing before Smallville; Final Destination 2! She was the friend of the main character (played by Criminal Mind's A.J. Cook) who was sitting in the front seat of the SUV. She was killed off in the first 10 minutes!
I just noticed the actress who plays her mom in this episode, is also in Final Destination 2.
Alicia in all her episodes was absolutely stunning and played her character so well. I started hoping Alicia would take Lana's spot as Clark's crush. Perhaps in Clark's final years of HS his preferences changed. I knew that wouldn't happen but still. It was so refreshing to see someone so open that Clark was open with in turn.
This was definitely one of my favorite episodes.
I think that's exactly why (Spoiler Alert!) they had to kill her off, because her chemistry with Clark was so strong that many of us would want her instead of Lana or Lois to be with Clark
This was one of my favorite episodes. Great soundtrack on this episode
If that bedroom scene with Alicia was steamy, then you're in for a wild ride for S4EP11🤪(she returns for two more episodes and ugh the end of the second episode HURT). I really enjoyed this episode. Sarah Carter was great as Alicia. Clark finally found a girl he could open up to and she turns out to be psychotic. It's such a shame for him. I think, even if it wasn't explained what happened to Alicia after Clark exploded the red paint on her, it was implied that she would most likely been taken to Belle Reve. I don't believe she was innately bad, she just needed serious help. And probably should've gotten that help much, much sooner.
John Schneider as Bo Duke would have had a completely different reaction lol.
This was one of my favorite episodes and characters and Sarah is an awesome actresses. This deserves 🌹🌹🌹you guys are too tough. I wish she could have been a re-occuring character throughout the entire series.
7:17 bottom mid right of frame looks like there's a moth crawling around on Tom's white carpet in his home. I recommend using some cedar wood, sir.
Sarah was too sweet to be believable as a psycho. There's a moment when Clark opens the door for her, and she thanks him. Don't know if that was scripted, or not, but she was just so believable as a sweet person. She definitely should have a much bigger role in the show. I'm pretty sure she's my favorite guest star of the whole series.
The most psycho can also be the most sweetest 😂
Sarah Carter is so beautiful I was obsessed with this episode growing up
Looking GREAT, Tom! Glad Tom enjoyed "Obsession" enough for 1.5 Roses! Alicia Baker will return in Season Four's Episodes 11 "UNSAFE" & 12 "PARIAH", so fingers are crossed for Sarah Carter to appear on the podcast! #HappyTwentyTwoYears
Can't wait!
@@TalkVillePodcast Fingers Crossed! #SmallvilleForever
Smallville may have run for 11 seasons, but it says everything that we all remember Sarah Carter as Alicia, and all still think about the chemistry that was lighting up the screen with her and Tom! DAMN! I actually used to wonder if she had been a prime contender for the role of Lana before Kristen got the role or if they had to kill the character of Alicia off because the chemistry between Tom and Sarah was so much stronger on screen than Tom and Kristen! Regardless... I don't remember a lot of episodes, but I distinctly remember all of hers! Totally unforgettable!
Did Lana date half the cw line-up? Clark and lex (smallville) Damon (vampire diaries) Dean (supernatural)
😂😂😂😂😂😂
All the leading guys, might have to look into Buffy and Charmed to see if there were any characters from there she dated. Spike aka James joined the show in season 5 but they never dated 😂
The Brazilian actress carla diaz remember a lot sarah carter and she plays a movie from a criminal true history ( suzane von richtofen) both are great artists.
This was one of my favorite episodes in of the season, we have seen so many versions of Fatal Attraction, Was this the first Sci-fi version? Alicia went from the Girl Next Door to extremely scary. Of course we know their story moving foward.
I’ve always had a crush on Sarah Carter ever since I saw this episode of Smallville. Saw her again in the crappy video game movie “Dead Or Alvie: DOA”. She was a lead character. A pivotal character.
She’s an absolute eye candy. I like that she’s Canadian too 😍🇨🇦
"Obsession" was a good episode, and witnessing Clark's first attempt at sex was funny. Typically, Martha's reactions are comically awkward when Clark talks about girls or when she catches him with one, but in this instance, her composed response seemed fitting - a rare occasion indeed. The actress who played Alicia did a great job and I am glad she is back even if it is only for two episodes.
I won't lie this episode had me cackling so much especially when Tom was explaining the bedroom scene 😅😅😅
And Michael explaining how take the knife used during the Alicia scene is so fake 😅😅😅 like y'all made me crack up so bad
Yeah picturing the actors actually getting the John Schneider disappointed dad face aimed at them was pretty great :)
Il mio show preferito❤️🫶 Smallville per sempre✨
In her return episode, she really redeems herself, and to me, I believe she was perfect for Clark if she hadn’t of died.
Loved this episode. Some real emotion
Great episode. Sarah carter. Amazing actress. The flow snd the acting all around was actually what made the storyline feel so natural. And. I think the main reason Lionel is so crazy is something yall maybe forgot. He has already been diagnosed with that terminal liver disease. He was in desperate mode trying to find a cure. That is why season 3 and 4 he is at his most desperate and crazy
This is an easy 2 roses. It starts so sweet and turns into a horror movie. Sometimes, you dont need demons coming out of hell. All you need is a girl with a knife. She was amazing, just killed it from the obsession to even the walk and her movements. Great actress. Great horror episode. Haven't seen this podcast episode yet, but if Rosenbaum shits on this, saying he likes horror, THEN IM SHITING ON ROSENBAUM!!!
Yeah! The vibe with her mom just telling Clark "oh, I don't think so, if she says you're together, then that's what's happening..." was nice and creepy. I mean, a pretty straightforward psycho horror story, but it was solid!
Maybe they should've shelled out for a prop knife not made of cardboard though :)
I've loved Sarah Carter since Black Sash. I'm so excited for you to bring her onto the show!
🤔 theory: interesting that the elevator in a multi-billion dollar company just happens to fail when the 2 "powered" kids from smallville are in it. Now, the audience doesn't know this yet, but Lionel KNOWS that Clark is special and maybe suspects Alicia. Is it possible that he rigged the elevator accident to see what at least Clark would do?
Knowing Michael he is going to be piiiiiiiissed with how Alicia’s story line ends lol