The way you broke this down was ridiculous. even though this was a template based video, you perfectly walk us towards a better understanding of what each plugin means in the vocal chain. forever grateful.
Look man, I went to full sail and have been engineering for years. This template is FIRE. This is the first template i’ve ever even allowed into my workflow. My cheap ass just recreated it, and thank you for showing this & the settings so that could be an option! You a real one man, thanks for putting on for the engineers. 🎉
Oh man! This is SOOOO helpful! You guys are awesome! I would like to see a video regarding setting up the vocal input(s) to accommodate for the -10dB spec that you mentioned, as this I know is quite critical to get a vocal track as "hot" as possible without damaging the quality of sound. That would be quite empowering as is this video. Thanks so much!!!
I think i wouldve clip gained things 1st and get things closer to each other i.e. the parts when level drop ..then proceed with these steps...but GREAT JOB
Na so I had a session yesterday morning, and I seen this video the night before. Ended up recreating this template with Slate VMR on the spot which saved my session cus the artist was able to perform much better and more free once the processing was on. Ya saved my session!
Dope template , I just use a compressor for tracking just for more control I think doing this sometimes it tricks the artist in believing this will be the final sound and when you send them the mix this will be what they look for . I like to mix and explain to Artist what I did so just in case they don’t like the move I change it right then . We as engineers should do more explaining . I definitely understand you guys POV tho but I’m just still in love with Artist hearing their raw vocals transform unless I’m already tracking threw analog gear
True. But as an artist you deliver a better performance when your vocals sound close to final version thus making the mixing process easier for the engineer
You need an advanced series where you don't have to explain what an EQ is every time you pull one out lol. This channel is super nice, but thats my only pet peeve. Make advanced mixing videos. I already know why we EQ a vocal.
why req over f6 rta? was it an in the moment choice when u were making the template way back when? Or a creative choice? I remember u being really supportive of the f6 in a podcast so I was just wondering
@@mookeymontana that’s also true I forgot all about the nls busses and channel strips. This was my first time seeing the req pop up on his channel so it peaked my interest. I have a few laying around that I have touched once or twice but not too often
Quick and potentially silly question. If you're recording with a recording template, don't that result in a double mix? If you have already applied effects then what is the actual mixing sesh gonna look like?
I’m interested in purchasing, quick question let’s say I want to add more tracks do I have add all the plugins on each track to make it sound like the recording track? - Help me Devvon
Yoooo just got the template and you need to do a tutorial because its only 2 tracks for the beat and to record THAT'S IT! There are no lead tracks, no adlibs track, no dubs track NOTHING! Just literally the 2 tracks you see is what it will be! So we need a video or something explaining how this is even a template frfr!
i think it depends sometimes im pretty happy with my personal template and just add the finishing touches sometimes its not working for the song and start over
Bought this template yesterday. the waves template on my mac in studio one 6 work but not on my windows pc in studio one 6. it says missing waves plugins. Maybe the template was created on a mac formatted only hd. please send me another download that works on the windows side. Ps. the stock version of the template loads fine on both mac and pc. It's just the template including waves doesn't work in windows studio one 6. i have the same exact studio one 6 version on both systems.Thanks.
As a beginner you copy as a seasoned engineer you’ll see the chain and use it in a way to where you know it’s right for your vocals or change certain aspects to fit others vocals
I think what he’s saying is when you are recording, make sure your recording levels are hitting at an average of -10db. Some people like -12 or even -18, but I think they crafted the mix based on -10. So if you’re recording around -10db coming in, the plugins will work automatically with a few tweaks based on the artist of course.
it could help out but it’s for sure not gonna fix the problem in the same way. i think a pop filter is an irreplaceable microphone dressing if u can’t get your hands on one wrap a pair of socks around ur mic & you’ll be good to go 🤣🤣 gotta do what u gotta do
On a artist to artist basis I could see this recording template being a problem. I understand you're trying to create a vibe for said client but it also puts the client in a box with your template meaning that they're not hearing the bigger picture, instead, they are hearing a controlled version on their vocal over a two track or stems. I think the vibe starts with your source (recording environment, mic and placement, analog tracking (if any) and preamp. I know you're not recording with plugins but in my opinion there is way to much processing on the recording end to evidently "take it home" to mix. If you're not getting close to your end mixing result with the current recording template then why commit to such a recording style? Could save CPU and use a JJP or a CLA vocal rack if you really want to dictate a vibe. End result to me sounded lifeless and lost a lot of dynamics to the vocal.
@@Wurldz @Wurldz As a professional who humbly learns and research's tricks to the trade everyday this is more of a blueprint to how they track and record within their recording environment. Showing his gain staging and recording levels before going into his recording chain would help less experience engineers more IMO. I also do understand he has a bunch of educational videos on that and other areas. This is not a knock towards Devvon, I genuinely love his work and talent, this is just me adding my two cents. Using speicific plugns like the god particle as you mentioned is not boxing yourself in. PLugins are all tools to use. But using the same vocal chain no matter the artist, song, vibe, genre is asinine since not all recording chains work for all. All that to dial in a decent vocal over a two track to not even get close to end product to evidently "take it home to mix". I could almost promise that the "mixing set" of plugins is completely different from the "recording set"
My friends please watch the entire video and also realize that on the radar has recorded over 1000 artist with this template. All of which have been immensely successful and viral. They really enjoyed the experience. Drake didn’t come in the studio hear himself and say y’all trynna put me in a box lol trust me don’t over think it lol
When you record in low latency mode all the plugins turn off... with that off there is huge latency. What settings are you using to record in real time with plugins? Do you have a video for that?
That is a lot of plug ins, it changes the over all sound of your wave and displaces your frequencies, best thing to do is try to get a good vocal head phone mix, and you can use reverb to get the vocalist involved... That is a lot of processing. Once you bounce that it is going to sound pretty bad
No. Devvon explains that this template is just to make the artist feel more comfortable in their performance during recording and that you can tweak the settings after.
That's the problem with these beat makers they all using the same templates no wonder every song sounds like a rendition of the last popular song. Everybody is eating off the same bland plate. I cant listen to half the garbage coming out. Primarily because it has no intrinsic value no art just a beat with samples all over the place and hella templates. Music is dying a slow death and this is why. Be original make your own shit.
You can grab the OTR template here! We appreciate the support: cutt.ly/3wgSKF6f
Why no Reaper :(
@@MSV3GMNGim with you we need one for reaper
you need to upgrade your DAW lol
@@dakiidd6074
Does this work with fl studio stock plug in ?
The way you broke this down was ridiculous. even though this was a template based video, you perfectly walk us towards a better understanding of what each plugin means in the vocal chain. forever grateful.
Look man, I went to full sail and have been engineering for years. This template is FIRE. This is the first template i’ve ever even allowed into my workflow. My cheap ass just recreated it, and thank you for showing this & the settings so that could be an option! You a real one man, thanks for putting on for the engineers. 🎉
Let me get it
I swear audio engineers are such unsung heroes it is ridiculous. Literally turning a sub par performance into a professional sounding one.
Please let the brother from "On the radar" know that he's doing an incredible job with the sound! On the radar.....Amazing
I will tell Youleeseas he ll really appreciate it!!
Oh man! This is SOOOO helpful! You guys are awesome! I would like to see a video regarding setting up the vocal input(s) to accommodate for the -10dB spec that you mentioned, as this I know is quite critical to get a vocal track as "hot" as possible without damaging the quality of sound. That would be quite empowering as is this video. Thanks so much!!!
thank you bro as always your a big help to Rainman studios career and i will most def be bringing you up in my future interviews
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 you are one of the Tutorial Goats imma give you your flowers now 💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐💐
That studio is a whole VIBE!❤
This template is FYE!! Definitely gonna be my next investment for my artists.
I think i wouldve clip gained things 1st and get things closer to each other i.e. the parts when level drop ..then proceed with these steps...but GREAT JOB
CLA Vocals is my to go to plugin for recording vocals, just choose the start me up template, adjust accordingly and you good to go!!
Great job breaking down the vocal chain. That was explained really well. 💯
Na so I had a session yesterday morning, and I seen this video the night before. Ended up recreating this template with Slate VMR on the spot which saved my session cus the artist was able to perform much better and more free once the processing was on. Ya saved my session!
Can I get the VMR preset
This template is 🔥🔥. It’s great for fast recording and getting right into the vibe 💯
Did you buy it of their site?
Dope template , I just use a compressor for tracking just for more control I think doing this sometimes it tricks the artist in believing this will be the final sound and when you send them the mix this will be what they look for . I like to mix and explain to Artist what I did so just in case they don’t like the move I change it right then . We as engineers should do more explaining . I definitely understand you guys POV tho but I’m just still in love with Artist hearing their raw vocals transform unless I’m already tracking threw analog gear
True. But as an artist you deliver a better performance when your vocals sound close to final version thus making the mixing process easier for the engineer
Ngl this chain is mad 📈
Thanks for sharing this template! Followed the chain 100%, just substituted the plugins I use. Smooth AF!! Appreciate the knowledge!
Finally a tutorial 😂 I was waiting for this.
You need an advanced series where you don't have to explain what an EQ is every time you pull one out lol. This channel is super nice, but thats my only pet peeve. Make advanced mixing videos. I already know why we EQ a vocal.
I would put this on my record track to make the artist feel like the vocal more of finished to get a great performance like you said
Yea alot of the times the artists are excited when they hear their vocals because it feels more like their studio environment
We missed a lot this gems from You
thanks for the video
I’m getting mine TODAY! 🔥
Great template never fails
I love these videos but what would you do for a D’Angelo vocal or Usher or Tank ??
He’s got vids on rnb vocals !
This might be the best vocal mixing template on youtube.
please tell us what gear are used in term of mic and preamp / comp to track the session before mixing !
bro got adin ross in the video
LOL tell us you don't watch the pod without telling us
@@ufallo tell us you don’t get jokes without telling us
Why not cut the frequency of 800, 3500 and 300
Yoh sounds nice..will get it surely😊
why req over f6 rta? was it an in the moment choice when u were making the template way back when? Or a creative choice? I remember u being really supportive of the f6 in a podcast so I was just wondering
Man I love F6 I’m pretty they go back and exchange some plug-ins because he didn’t mention NLS at all and he loves it
@@mookeymontana that’s also true I forgot all about the nls busses and channel strips. This was my first time seeing the req pop up on his channel so it peaked my interest. I have a few laying around that I have touched once or twice but not too often
Do you ever use a preamp apart from your interface for vocals?
How you buy this template for stock plugin for beginners ?
How come you are not using your HMD EQ plugin? Does it not work in this flow?
Waves endorsed?
Mitigate mitigate bump bump mitigate lol
Quick and potentially silly question. If you're recording with a recording template, don't that result in a double mix? If you have already applied effects then what is the actual mixing sesh gonna look like?
Devvon what interface our you using on your desk? Black unit with the silver knobs.
I’m interested in purchasing, quick question let’s say I want to add more tracks do I have add all the plugins on each track to make it sound like the recording track? - Help me Devvon
can you do a video on how to mix a whole ep or album? do you put them all in one project and mix or is it one by one?
I got a weird question but where did u guys get that wood paneling on the walls?
Anyone got any advice on using this without delay when tracking, is his computer just that cold or is there a trick I don’t know yet ?
Yoooo just got the template and you need to do a tutorial because its only 2 tracks for the beat and to record THAT'S IT! There are no lead tracks, no adlibs track, no dubs track NOTHING! Just literally the 2 tracks you see is what it will be! So we need a video or something explaining how this is even a template frfr!
You got the one for Fl Studio? I got it and feeling the same
Is this the most up to date vocal chain you have done Devvon? Do you record with these plug-ins enabled while recording?
When you’re mixing do you start from scratch or you tweak what’s there already and add more plugins?
i think it depends sometimes im pretty happy with my personal template and just add the finishing touches sometimes its not working for the song and start over
I’ll have 2 different plugin like a bus for “reverb” and chose from the those, but everythings set to default. So I guess tweek
The r comp does alot
I’m running my laptop on a older version. Is this compatible with OS X 10.8.3?
I also wana ask about the thing of people saying you won and asking people to buy gift cards and stuff...
Bought this template yesterday. the waves template on my mac in studio one 6 work but not on my windows pc in studio one 6. it says missing waves plugins. Maybe the template was created on a mac formatted only hd. please send me another download that works on the windows side. Ps. the stock version of the template loads fine on both mac and pc. It's just the template including waves doesn't work in windows studio one 6. i have the same exact studio one 6 version on both systems.Thanks.
Do you use a bus for these compressors? Or apply them on the track itself?
Where is the Kendrick and Cole Vocal Template?
is the stock and 3rd party plug in template both included just incase u dont have all the plug ins?
Yes they are both included
What level did the artist record at to obtain this sound? That’s important to know.
I don't get why people don't just copy the same settings you showed and they have their own OTR template
Maybe They Don’t Want To Take The Time To Copy Settings and Still Don’t Get The Right Sound and Also It’s Supporting The Content Creator
Facts im making my own template and its to tedious and annoying and I feel you @@10MilliJay
As a beginner you copy as a seasoned engineer you’ll see the chain and use it in a way to where you know it’s right for your vocals or change certain aspects to fit others vocals
@@weareContentKings Im just being a hater I get it I be making my own templates every template you have to adjust it no song is gonna be the same
What mic is this recorded on
Why Don't Y'all Make Luna Templates?
Because no one uses Luna lol
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@Prof.Albusdumbledore I Do 🤷🏾♂️ I Like UAD's Analog Emulations And Not Having To Use The Console App Using Extra CPU
Because luna is a failed daw
@@miahdona8161 How So? I Didn't Get The Memo That It Was 😕
if anyone is interested you can replace waves rvox with fabfilter pro-c2 in vocal mode or a combination of britpre and LALA from analog obsessions
You track at -10? Or going out of the template?
I think what he’s saying is when you are recording, make sure your recording levels are hitting at an average of -10db. Some people like -12 or even -18, but I think they crafted the mix based on -10. So if you’re recording around -10db coming in, the plugins will work automatically with a few tweaks based on the artist of course.
Does a good de-esser negate a pop filter?
it could help out but it’s for sure not gonna fix the problem in the same way. i think a pop filter is an irreplaceable microphone dressing if u can’t get your hands on one wrap a pair of socks around ur mic & you’ll be good to go 🤣🤣 gotta do what u gotta do
Absolutely not
How many plugins theu put on a vocals
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Hear *
We need a template for reaper ASAP‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
I can do all you wanted to achieve in this tutorial, only using FL Studio stock plugins. No matter how bad the vocal. No Cap...
Do you think the fabfilter pro DS and the waves R deesser is really comparable? ....
Pro Ds is 100x better R dresser cuts so much out of the take that it’s actually insane
Do I use R-Desser stereo or mono for this ?
On a artist to artist basis I could see this recording template being a problem. I understand you're trying to create a vibe for said client but it also puts the client in a box with your template meaning that they're not hearing the bigger picture, instead, they are hearing a controlled version on their vocal over a two track or stems. I think the vibe starts with your source (recording environment, mic and placement, analog tracking (if any) and preamp. I know you're not recording with plugins but in my opinion there is way to much processing on the recording end to evidently "take it home" to mix. If you're not getting close to your end mixing result with the current recording template then why commit to such a recording style?
Could save CPU and use a JJP or a CLA vocal rack if you really want to dictate a vibe.
End result to me sounded lifeless and lost a lot of dynamics to the vocal.
he explained it at 5:00 and he's spot on
@@Wurldz @Wurldz As a professional who humbly learns and research's tricks to the trade everyday this is more of a blueprint to how they track and record within their recording environment. Showing his gain staging and recording levels before going into his recording chain would help less experience engineers more IMO. I also do understand he has a bunch of educational videos on that and other areas. This is not a knock towards Devvon, I genuinely love his work and talent, this is just me adding my two cents. Using speicific plugns like the god particle as you mentioned is not boxing yourself in. PLugins are all tools to use. But using the same vocal chain no matter the artist, song, vibe, genre is asinine since not all recording chains work for all. All that to dial in a decent vocal over a two track to not even get close to end product to evidently "take it home to mix". I could almost promise that the "mixing set" of plugins is completely different from the "recording set"
@@ufallo I said the end result was lifeless, no the 5 min mark.
My friends please watch the entire video and also realize that on the radar has recorded over 1000 artist with this template. All of which have been immensely successful and viral. They really enjoyed the experience. Drake didn’t come in the studio hear himself and say y’all trynna put me in a box lol trust me don’t over think it lol
@@HelpMeDevvonlmao, “y’all put me in a box” 😂 good comeback
Man y’all not showing enough of the 2 track beats everybody got 2 track beats show what y’all doin with a 2 track bass break it down
Seems like they don't want you to know
When you record in low latency mode all the plugins turn off... with that off there is huge latency. What settings are you using to record in real time with plugins? Do you have a video for that?
maybe due to your cpu power or ram amount being used . send him your system specs.
That is a lot of plug ins, it changes the over all sound of your wave and displaces your frequencies, best thing to do is try to get a good vocal head phone mix, and you can use reverb to get the vocalist involved... That is a lot of processing. Once you bounce that it is going to sound pretty bad
ayee
What DAW is this? Logic Pro, or Pro Tools, or Ableton?
Pro tools
Pro tools
The vocals are not on beat. Sounds off.
Sounds wayyy off beat I thought I was the only one
I wanna ask, are these effects printed into the recordings??
No. Devvon explains that this template is just to make the artist feel more comfortable in their performance during recording and that you can tweak the settings after.
Never record your vocals with effects printed on them
@@3FAWTY u can print certain things like first eq + comp(s).
@@3FAWTY& autotune
No reaper😢
Is that the LS-208 new clown nose?
Thanks💯🫡
1:23 “Yup”
2:39 “Mhm Hmm”
4:30 “Mhuu”
9:39 “yeah yea yea 🤠”
Who’s that rapping?
Might wanna change the title to Biggest Artist In the World
The fact that you’re right is crazy lol
@@HelpMeDevvon the numbers don't lie lol
Drake really use this? I mean I can believe it lol. How ya'll find out?
Y’all use so many plugins
I get a good quality sound using like 4
Ok
@roccod338 frfr bro I only use like 4 myself or 5 at the most too many kills the vocal
You lost me at drake haha jk
Its good nothing special tho
Over processed. Less is better. Also, as Lesli Brathwaite always says; “if you can hear the compressor working… you’re doing too much.”
wwwwwww
Cap.
weyo der erste
take the watch off that doesnt fit lol
Show the people how to do it , since 1 is washed up , and one just started the mixing he just got a great podcast because he garbage 5o
😂 what you mean?
That's the problem with these beat makers they all using the same templates no wonder every song sounds like a rendition of the last popular song. Everybody is eating off the same bland plate. I cant listen to half the garbage coming out. Primarily because it has no intrinsic value no art just a beat with samples all over the place and hella templates. Music is dying a slow death and this is why. Be original make your own shit.
Sounds flat and weak
i mean yeah its compressed, louder. but no where near where id leave the vocal
I would like to know what daw controller that is ? Link anyone @helpmedevvon