Dang I figured there was a tractor or Zamboni type of vehicle that would do most of that spraying for you. Hand spraying the ice looks like a ton of time and work.
After experiencing a few paint jobs myself. We have the big mixing tank from jet ice. We do 3 boxes of white to a full tank then we walk the wand 3 times times per tank. We do 9 boxes total but buy 10 so we have a spare box for touch ups or whatever. So a dozen patterns with the wand over 9 boxes before we start sealing it in.
I hesitated posting this video as the paint job was less than stellar. After reflecting on the process I have some ideas why and will address them in a post ice install analysis. Feel free to comment below on your thoughts how I can improve and what your rink uses as equipment to install ice.
Thanks for sharing, even though you're not happy with the results. I'll be putting in the ice and painting in 6 weeks and it'll be just my 2nd time, and the only helpers I'll have are youth hockey dads that have never done it before so not much help besides pulling the hose. Your videos are super useful for someone like me with not much experience.
We just put in our three sheets. Maybe 3 more in the fall if they get the money. Pretty much do the same but we use 4 boxes of super white or whatever it's called per coat and do 3 coats. In previous years we've added a hint of blue paint to the white to give it a different hue, definitely recommend. Loving the vids though, keep it up!
I think it was good to post the video, it will help when you go to do the ice next time what you liked and didn't like. Also it puts the knowledge out there of one way to do it. Our rink started Tuesday morning putting a few very light layers with a garden hose setup (like pebbling a curling rink). Then we sprayed a few more very light layers with a 1" hose but the humidity in the rink was so high it was dripping condensation from all the beams in the roof so we stopped. The humidity is starting to go down as is the temp (it was about 89F outside yesterday and 80 today with about 45-50% humidity). We do have a humidifier running non stop but it can't keep up. The plan is to get it to 1/4" base layer, then spray paint (we have an actual walk behind ice paint sprayer, $$ but we also rip our ice out yearly so it gets used a bit more). Then a few layers of ice to 1/2", lay lines, logo's, etc, seal that with a few layers then build to 1 1/4" - 1 1/2" with the Zamboni. I like your spray bar for laying water. Looks way more consistent then what we are doing with the hoses, less puddling (not sure the word the I'm looking for but it looks flat with small puddles every 10-15 feet all over the place.) Anyways good video man! looking forward to the next one!!
@@mocookiezplz thanks for sharing how you do things. We have had dehumidification issues before while putting in the ice. No fun. Hard to paint. Right before we got our desiccant one. Wow bringing back memories for sure!
I highly recommend reaching out to either David Loverock who's the president at JetIce and George Artinous (Pretty sure I spelled his last name right) over Ingalss Ice Arena at Yale University. We held an ice painting conference here at the University of Pennsylvania back in June and they helped us with our ice in/painting. True pros who really know their stuff
Yes and no. I hear it is hard to keep clean when the ice is out. That the white is not as bright. But someone did leave a comment saying their concrete is painted and they have no issues. I guess it depends. Probably fine for recreational rinks but not for televised games. Also not sure about how well the water bonds to the paint. I know there are also sheets or rolls of paper that can be laid out. Pros and cons work that too.
Not too sure but not including the building the sheet it's self would run about 500k. Depending on if the floor is made with sand or concrete. Another 500k for the refrigeration system. 150k for zamboni and ice maintenance equipment. To maintain a sheet it would run about 4k to 6k a month for water, electricity, etc. Many more hidden expenses.
Dang I figured there was a tractor or Zamboni type of vehicle that would do most of that spraying for you. Hand spraying the ice looks like a ton of time and work.
Very interesting video!! Didn’t know you put ice over the concrete, then paint! My husband and I enjoyed this video
After experiencing a few paint jobs myself. We have the big mixing tank from jet ice. We do 3 boxes of white to a full tank then we walk the wand 3 times times per tank. We do 9 boxes total but buy 10 so we have a spare box for touch ups or whatever. So a dozen patterns with the wand over 9 boxes before we start sealing it in.
Why did I think the ice came out white naturally 💀💀
Same I thought it just turned white
Are your ice cubes bright white?
My husband and I thought the same; hence why we looked up and watched this video 😂
Omg me too, I wasn't expecting it to be clear water first haha I thought it turn white once it was colder 😅
@@polarbear4612 yes
Imagine the guy who makes ice calls in sick and you're the new guy. OMG
I hesitated posting this video as the paint job was less than stellar. After reflecting on the process I have some ideas why and will address them in a post ice install analysis. Feel free to comment below on your thoughts how I can improve and what your rink uses as equipment to install ice.
Thanks for sharing, even though you're not happy with the results. I'll be putting in the ice and painting in 6 weeks and it'll be just my 2nd time, and the only helpers I'll have are youth hockey dads that have never done it before so not much help besides pulling the hose. Your videos are super useful for someone like me with not much experience.
We just put in our three sheets. Maybe 3 more in the fall if they get the money. Pretty much do the same but we use 4 boxes of super white or whatever it's called per coat and do 3 coats. In previous years we've added a hint of blue paint to the white to give it a different hue, definitely recommend. Loving the vids though, keep it up!
I think it was good to post the video, it will help when you go to do the ice next time what you liked and didn't like. Also it puts the knowledge out there of one way to do it.
Our rink started Tuesday morning putting a few very light layers with a garden hose setup (like pebbling a curling rink). Then we sprayed a few more very light layers with a 1" hose but the humidity in the rink was so high it was dripping condensation from all the beams in the roof so we stopped. The humidity is starting to go down as is the temp (it was about 89F outside yesterday and 80 today with about 45-50% humidity). We do have a humidifier running non stop but it can't keep up. The plan is to get it to 1/4" base layer, then spray paint (we have an actual walk behind ice paint sprayer, $$ but we also rip our ice out yearly so it gets used a bit more). Then a few layers of ice to 1/2", lay lines, logo's, etc, seal that with a few layers then build to 1 1/4" - 1 1/2" with the Zamboni.
I like your spray bar for laying water. Looks way more consistent then what we are doing with the hoses, less puddling (not sure the word the I'm looking for but it looks flat with small puddles every 10-15 feet all over the place.)
Anyways good video man! looking forward to the next one!!
@@hanksnow6621 thank you. So is that 4 boxs for a 85x200 rink?
@@mocookiezplz thanks for sharing how you do things. We have had dehumidification issues before while putting in the ice. No fun. Hard to paint. Right before we got our desiccant one. Wow bringing back memories for sure!
thats pretty sick. cool.
We will use 4 boxes per layer. I find it covers pretty good lol
We bought a spray bar right from jet ice
Roughly what temperature do you want the water to be on your first 3 base coats?
We do 20 floods before we paint our floor is so up and down
Wow I thought ours was bad
In some spots we have 2/12 and others we have 1/2 inch of ice
I highly recommend reaching out to either David Loverock who's the president at JetIce and George Artinous (Pretty sure I spelled his last name right) over Ingalss Ice Arena at Yale University.
We held an ice painting conference here at the University of Pennsylvania back in June and they helped us with our ice in/painting.
True pros who really know their stuff
We need to get a proper spray set up that’s for sure.
George has left Yale is at Scared Hearts new rink.
@@davidloverock3653 Rob Harkins just told about that yesterday. Wasn’t aware of that
We are changing to paper this year oh I have 15 years experience ice making
That jet ice spray bar seems to be the way to go. Switching to paper? How come? Easier?
Ice Rink Diaries ya I think so I don’t think the boss wants to bend over lol
Do you use hot water to make ice?
What if the concrete was painted white? Wouldn't that solve some issues and save money?
Yes and no. I hear it is hard to keep clean when the ice is out. That the white is not as bright. But someone did leave a comment saying their concrete is painted and they have no issues. I guess it depends. Probably fine for recreational rinks but not for televised games. Also not sure about how well the water bonds to the paint. I know there are also sheets or rolls of paper that can be laid out. Pros and cons work that too.
How much does it actually cost to even make an ice rink? And how much would It cost to maintain it too?
Not too sure but not including the building the sheet it's self would run about 500k. Depending on if the floor is made with sand or concrete. Another 500k for the refrigeration system. 150k for zamboni and ice maintenance equipment. To maintain a sheet it would run about 4k to 6k a month for water, electricity, etc. Many more hidden expenses.
This is why hockey is an expensive sport to play.
Almost looks like a meth lab!
This guy rambling is annoying 😂