@@wolfgangweller2525 I think this has a lot of Blades, if you knew his songs in Spanish, you would see that it is the style, I think he included a lot of his thinking.
Underrated movie with an even more underrated scene... “When it comes to grief, the normal rules of exchange to not apply, because grief transcends value. A man would give nations to life grief off his heart, and yet you cannot buy anything with grief, because grief is worthless”
Iton Sohigh Is To me, it translates to “a lifestyle nobody practices”. He is advising him that we must accept that, sooner or later, tragedy will befall us. Many choose to live in denial thinking that if they live a cautious and calculated life then they are safe from harm and heartbreak but the reality is we all face it at one point or another. Accepting this fact eases the blow when it finally comes, but many choose not to accept it and live under the illusion that they are the masters of their fate. Idk, that’s my interpretation, but my dad and I love this scene. It is insanely profound and depressing at the same time. If it has a deeper meaning, please enlighten me. Any further insight to this scene will be greatly appreciated.
@@awkwardgamervrn4827 Thank you for the reply. I am trying to understand it myself and I think that the writer hints a way out of desperation, but he is being vague with it. "In any way, we should all prepare a place where we can accommodate all the tragedies that sooner or later will come to our lifes" I'm struggling to interpret this, but I guess it is different for everyone. This "place". Could it be a physical one ? A state of mind or perhaps a hobby like making music or simply minor things, like the taste of a fruit; again subjective to the individual. Finding peace among the chaos ? who knows
@@itonsohigh1206 the place is a place in your heart. Like a locked box you put bad things in. The space needs to be ready knowing tragedy will come to your life. But most are caught off guard when tragedy happens as they have not yet prepared that place in their heart to contain these tragedies.
Ruben Blades slicing him up good with the philosophy of the acceptance of the errors that lead to one’s extinction Ruben Blades musician, writer, composer, lawyer, activist, actor
By far one of the richest, most compelling, moving - and truest - dialogues ever in a movie. The whole flick is iconic, but this... Beyond words. By the way, the poems Machado wrote about Leonor are like gospels written on stone, forever dying, forever beautiful, and - yes - forever worthless. I repeat, astonishing scene.
I have loved this underrated movie forever. The best dialogue a film has ever had. Another commenter called it “a beautiful meditation through the inevitable “ and that is such a good description. The actors are all wonderful but the dialogue surpasses them. I would love to read this script.
Caminante, son tus huellas el camino y nada más; Caminante, no hay camino, se hace camino al andar. Al andar se hace el camino, y al volver la vista atrás se ve la senda que nunca se ha de volver a pisar. Caminante no hay camino sino estelas en la mar.
The counselor thought he could just dabble in a little evil, make the drug deal, get rich and walk away. As Westray told him, you can't live in this world and not be part of it.
In a sense any film is made to bring you to the denouement. As this beautiful speech implies: “at the understanding that life will not take you back.” The counselor has lived his life as a seeker of perfect things. Yet he has allowed his moral compass to be guided by his need to be in control. Now he realizes, in a transcendent moment, that he would give up this control in order to protect the innocence and purity he covets, yet he finds that he cannot. That his control and his choices have destroyed that purity and innocence, and that his reward is grief. A fate worse even than death.
@@theSuperviLLain_est like when i think back before i got married to that monster, friends would have talks like this, and I JUST DIDN"T GET IT. can totally relate to this dude.
@@abdulwahidburhani9245 then you watched a whole bunch of bad movies. This scene is possibly the best part of the entire film, but to say this scene is better than most of the movies you’ve saw, is insane.
@@itonsohigh1206 Not at all. The end of sentience is so final that the sentient cannot even begin to fathom it because fathoming it would defeat the purpose of understanding what such nothingness actually feels like.
In case you're wondering what he's saying in Spanish at 2:53: "Caminante, no hay camino, se hace camino al andar." Translation: "Walker, there is no path to follow, you make the path by walking"
The dialogue in this scene is among the best I have ever heard. Ruben Blades sustains a verbal and postural tone for the entire time, such that I keep forgetting that Jefe is basking in the counselor's predicament, positively luxuriating in the other man's misery. His joy is obvious as he cuts off every cry for hope or sympathy: " I would do whatever you suggest." "I have no suggestions, counselor." When Jefe is done dandling the counselor on his knee, he says he might take "a small nap". This whole scene is exemplary.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed this. Jefe voice is so soothing and soft spoken you almost forget how much he was toying with the Counselor and giving him false hope only to sweep the rug from under him. Especially when he waxed lyrical about the rules of exchange with no intention of giving the counselor the noble option of self sacrifice since his fiance is dead already and he's next. Throughout the film, one gets the idea that the Cartel can't stand the Counselor and saw the theft attempt on the Cocaine shipment as an excuse to put him to sleep.
I think Jefe has seen so many people killed and heard so many people beg that this is just another day of the week for him. Its one shipment that was even recovered. These guys do hundreds of shipments. He's simply saying the Counselor is going to pay like anyone else would.
He's not playing the guy.... the counselor keeps asking for help and does not accept his situation. "Why r you telling me this?" "Because you continue to deny the reality of the world you're in". I agree about the small nap "read" though.
I felt this movie was misguided as fuck for the most part, but I love this scene. Ruben's cadence here is both ominous and strangely comforting even if I don't really know what the fuck he's talking about. His delivery is awesome.
He's basically saying the choices you made set actions in place that he can't undo no matter how badly he wishes. Ruben is basically telling him to come to terms with the fact he fucked up and got his girlfriend horrifically killed.
He's counseling "The" Counselor and also guiding him to acceptance, more to the point walking the path to get to it, as in acceptance and chiefly, the fact that now things have changed having to do so is going to be for life. "The world in which we made the mistake is different from the world in which we seek to undo the mistake" & "we are not here on some hiatus," as well as having The Counselor spell hiatus out says it all.
"In any case we should all prepare a place where we can accommodate the tragedies that will soon come over our life's but this is an economy too few care to practice"... if somebody told me this in 2010 💭
You can ruin your life. Or other people can. Always get informed and do the right thing. For some people like me this film makes a lot if sense. I lost my health out of ignorance. Not to drugs or alcohol. It was at work. I am afraid of people. They were as bad as drugs dealers that go around silently, in disguise, bad people in disguise.
"When it comes to grief, the normal rules of exchange do not apply because grief, tanscends value. A man, would give, entire nations, to lift grief off of his heart, yet you cannot buy anything with grief...because grief, is worthless."
I actually appreciated the Cartel character taking a few minutes to call the Counselor back. He started the phone call off with something along the lines of: I already told your friend this. Still, he found the time to talk to this stranger and in a seemingly genuine way offered legitimate advice. Suggests a level of professionalism in a strange way (to me).
This such a powerful scene. I can't help but find it funny though. The man calls to get help for his wife but instead gets a lesson on philosophy and metaphysics 😂
@@jonerijuseppi3047 No, he is being told that there is nothing that he can do and that his wife is going to die or is already dead. The suffering he will endure before dying is worth more to them than allowing him to gain satisfaction in knowing that his death will allow his wife to live. "In any case we should all prepare a place where we can accommodate the tragedies that will soon come over our life's but this is an economy too few care to practice"
Caminante no hay Camino Caminante, son tus huellas el camino y nada más; Caminante, no hay camino, se hace camino al andar. Al andar se hace el camino, y al volver la vista atrás se ve la senda que nunca se ha de volver a pisar. Caminante no hay camino sino estelas en la mar. Wayfarer, there is no path Wayfarer, the only way Is your footprints and no other. Wayfarer, there is no way. Make your way by going farther. By going farther, make your way Till looking back at where you've wandered, You look back on that path you may Not set foot on from now onward. Wayfarer, there is no way; Only wake-trails on the waters. -Antonio Machado
This dialogue is pure Cormac. It might've worked a little better in a novel (as might have several other scenes in this film), but it has that same mystic brilliance that is unmistakably McCarthy.
@@mariofilho8880bit late but maybe start with no country for old men, as it's his easiest and simplest. Can be read in a day, you're familiar with the premise if you've seen the movie, and it was originally written as a screenplay - it's sort of Cormac Light. A challenging but utterly incredible read would be Blood Meridian, widely considered his magnum opus. Tough read at times and disgustingly violent with a prose style reminiscent of modernist writers, it's not the easiest, but a work that stays with you and a classic novel you can be proud of having read
all mcarthy's writing is just a vehicle to put certain characters in position to give these philosophical diatribes . .he is very good at writing them but to actually say them out loud in a movie in a way that is natural is a credit to this actor. many of the other a list actors in this movie didn't fare so well.
@@tommyrozenblad235 I have to totally disagree. In his book The Crossing, there is a section where an ex priest is telling the main character a story about a man who lost his son and became a heretic. That entire dialogue is this scene on steroids.
@@tommyrozenblad235 It's near the beginning of Chapter 2, after the wolf dies. Billy is just wandering the desert, he meets 2 sisters, he meets another group where an old man gives him advice, and then he comes across the ex priest.
I always like scenes like this. The scene in the movie Jaws is another one, where Quint is talking about his experience on the USS Indianapolis, although there is no person in that scene who's opposing him. There is a third Exorcist movie which is kind of a true sequel to the original movie The Exorcist, called The Exorcist III or Exorcist Legion. The dialogue scenes between the detective played by George C Scott and the hospital patient played by Brad Dourif are amazing. That movie is a thriller a bit different from the original movie, although it was written by the guy who wrote the original Exorcist book.
I’m sorry y’all but this scene has me dying laughing 🤣. In reality dude is like “ain’t sh!t you can do. They told you not to do this shid . But you’re dumb as$ wasn’t happy enough with your well above average life. What’s done is done. They killed your girl. You’re next, get over it.” But he’s doing it in such elegant and philosophical fashion that it’s just hilarious to me. His cool charisma and grace are top notch and he’s entertaining to watch. But the scenario versus how this conversation is being carried out is fvgking hilarious… he finishes with “if I have time I think I’ll take a small nap” 🤣🤣🤣
Probably the nicest way of telling the counselor his fate and that of his fiance has already been sealed with not a damn thing he can do about it. He's practically a dead man walking. Hence the phrase "grief is worthless".
@@Placesandspaces35 The counselor doesn't even get the option of a noble death. As in trading his life for his fiancé's. Instead he gets to live in agony & suffering over her being killed via snuff film until it's his turn for the chopping block.
And yet in that despair which is transcendant you will find the "ancient understanding" that the philosphers don't which will always be found despised !... That's big big big time old school maaaaaaaaaafia.....
I think the wording is slightly different. Here's my take "You will find the ancient understanding that the philosophers stone will always be found despised and buried in the mud." I'm still not entirely clear on the meaning here, but I believe it's a reference to transcendent notions of grief and human reluctance to accept it.
@@RoryDavidWatts the stone gives eternal life. And men discard eternal life until its time for death. Then it becomes important but its too late. Hence the reference of all the grand plans and designs. They matter more than life until death comes. Then life becomes more important than these plans. But its too late.
"where the bodied are buried in the desert, that is a certain world. ..where they are laying to be found is another world.......but these world's must have always been there ......."
not many understand the dip meaning of this complete message,,, i guess you have to live life ,,, make mistakes suffer and than be able to understand this message!!
I dont know anyone who has a good woed for the fim. Its a smidgen of being a master piece for me but somehow feels flawed. Tjis scene though is jaw dropping to me. In amother life -Fassbender would have had a an oscar.
I remember drunkenly climbing over a balcony railing and hanging off it when I was about 21. I always remember that and it chills me, I was 8 stories up. One slip and all reality would not exist for me.
@@gossim this is very much a reality in Mexico. That's why some people think the movie is powerful and some think it's "over the top." From El Chapos trial we know he kept teenage girls around to rape as he believed it kept him young. These guys are sick.
@@gossim medium.com/matter/blood-on-the-corn-52ac13f7e643 I found that article several years ago when I was interested in looking up the DEA agent that Red Rinbon Day commemorates: Enrique Camarena. I had remembered watching a TV show based on him, had Craig T Nelson and I think Miguel Ferrer. This article highlights just about everything you see here in this movie regarding the cartel. The brutality of the cartel, the innocent people they kill, even their "disbelief in coincidences": When Brad Pitt's character is talking to Michael Fassbender's character, and he is talking about how these cartel people have heard of coincidences but never believe in them, an example of their paranoia in situations where the chips are down for them is highlighted once or twice in that article.
@@gossim They don't just think it's over the top. They think it's pretentious due to the philosophical speculations the film spouts half the time. Even if they're on point.
cameron diaz killed it. never in any film did i want her more. So many many lessons in this film. loved cameron in the confessional. "The soul of a woman was created below"...
Great movie. Never have I wanted a sequel to be made so badly…just to see Cameron Diaz character Malkina get what’s coming to her. I had a visceral dislike of her at the end. Oddly the same as I did for Fassbenders character at the end of “12 yrs a Slave” …
This is a beautiful scene in a outstanding movie but i get crack out of when he corrects the man on the phone about mispronouncing the word hiatus! its kinda funny
for some reason they cut this scene up. it's supposed to be 6:16 and for some reason the quality and that of what was said is compromised and cut. . I love the HIATUS part. ...and the small nap lol
We had the full dialogue which is even more than this, in Dutch theaters. Movie was good. This dialogue, within the context is something that no one seems to realize true art.
@@jasongsux3520 Not with this movie, but I hate it when the home release of a movie is different from the theatrical version, and it's worse. I'm not 100% certain, but I think they did something like that with the Mel Gibson movie Payback. No Kris Kristofferson, no awesome climax with the "told you not to trust me" line.
My interpretation. Right now you have a choice. 1. End your life and this reality as you know it also ends. Or 2. if you stay alive, the reality of this world will punish you with grief you have (like most men) not prepared for. A Schrodingers cat dichotomy mentioned far too often in film and media, but done remarkably well here.
I'm back watching this great scene on actions and consequences to see which lines to steal as I give it to my bully boss whose balls are now firmly in my hands because of abusive emails he sent me. Up the worker. Finally.
The only action you are legally allowed to take is to report the emails to HR. If "whose balls are now firmly in my hands" is a reference to using the emails to force him to give you money, an arbitrary raise, undue vacation time, or other such kickbacks, then that constitutes extortion--a felony punishable by up to 20 years imprisonment.
do you love your wife that u would change places with her ? Counselor says 'yes' then He asks if its a possibility, Ruben says its impossible, What is impossible?? I am confused, sure he wife will be killed, but what exactly does ruben mean? thx
afterwards he got a plastic surgery, renamed himself 'Alejandro Gillick' , joined the rival Colombian Cartel and proceeded to work with the CIA to get his revenge......people who saw Sicario will understand haha
The best dialogue ever written. I come back and listen to it every so often.
Totally agree.
Seldom am I reduced to tears, but this scene that echoes the reality and futility of life is…………..poignant.
I come back, after I take a small nap.
do you actually understand his points? and apply it to your life?
Blades deserved the Oscar just for this 5 min scene..It is a masterclass.
Not Blades, but the writer of the dialogue.
@@wolfgangweller2525 I agree but blades' delivery is sublime.
Agreed!
I watched it over and over when I first bought the film
@@wolfgangweller2525 I think this has a lot of Blades, if you knew his songs in Spanish, you would see that it is the style, I think he included a lot of his thinking.
Underrated movie with an even more underrated scene...
“When it comes to grief, the normal rules of exchange to not apply, because grief transcends value. A man would give nations to life grief off his heart, and yet you cannot buy anything with grief, because grief is worthless”
right on. Do you know what he means when he says "an economy few people care to practice" ?
Iton Sohigh Is To me, it translates to “a lifestyle nobody practices”. He is advising him that we must accept that, sooner or later, tragedy will befall us. Many choose to live in denial thinking that if they live a cautious and calculated life then they are safe from harm and heartbreak but the reality is we all face it at one point or another. Accepting this fact eases the blow when it finally comes, but many choose not to accept it and live under the illusion that they are the masters of their fate.
Idk, that’s my interpretation, but my dad and I love this scene. It is insanely profound and depressing at the same time.
If it has a deeper meaning, please enlighten me. Any further insight to this scene will be greatly appreciated.
@@awkwardgamervrn4827 Thank you for the reply.
I am trying to understand it myself and I think that the writer hints a way out of desperation, but he is being vague with it.
"In any way, we should all prepare a place where we can accommodate all the tragedies that sooner or later will come to our lifes"
I'm struggling to interpret this, but I guess it is different for everyone.
This "place".
Could it be a physical one ?
A state of mind or perhaps a hobby like making music or simply minor things, like the taste of a fruit; again subjective to the individual.
Finding peace among the chaos ? who knows
@@itonsohigh1206 he wants him to be stoic about his situations.stoic philosophy
@@itonsohigh1206 the place is a place in your heart. Like a locked box you put bad things in. The space needs to be ready knowing tragedy will come to your life. But most are caught off guard when tragedy happens as they have not yet prepared that place in their heart to contain these tragedies.
Ruben Blades slicing him up good with the philosophy of the acceptance of the errors that lead to one’s extinction
Ruben Blades musician, writer, composer, lawyer, activist, actor
By far one of the richest, most compelling, moving - and truest - dialogues ever in a movie. The whole flick is iconic, but this...
Beyond words.
By the way, the poems Machado wrote about Leonor are like gospels written on stone, forever dying, forever beautiful, and - yes - forever worthless.
I repeat, astonishing scene.
I hope this underrated movie will be a masterpiece in future....
This dialogue would bring anyone , anyone back down to earth,,,,,
I have loved this underrated movie forever. The best dialogue a film has ever had. Another commenter called it “a beautiful meditation through the inevitable “ and that is such a good description. The actors are all wonderful but the dialogue surpasses them. I would love to read this script.
Do you know who wrote this? This is not the work of scriptwriters
Cormac Mccarthy
Tommy Rozenblad yes the script is written by the author Carnac mcarthy
It was published. I suspect there are still copies available on amazon or similar distributors.
Cormac McCarthy deserved at least an Oscar nod for this screenplay.
It's not a movie. It's a philosophical treatise.
Caminante, son tus huellas
el camino y nada más;
Caminante, no hay camino,
se hace camino al andar.
Al andar se hace el camino,
y al volver la vista atrás
se ve la senda que nunca
se ha de volver a pisar.
Caminante no hay camino
sino estelas en la mar.
que genialidad de dialogo!!!!!
The counselor thought he could just dabble in a little evil, make the drug deal, get rich and walk away. As Westray told him, you can't live in this world and not be part of it.
"The world in which you seek to undo the mistakes that you made is different from the world where the mistakes were made." woooowww.
Certainly..this movie is written so well. I think the actors did a terrific job but HANDS DOWN to the writers. No nominations for anything..shameful.
+Lisa T from my understanding , no one understood it. for me it's like No Country For Old Men, it gets better every time....👍👍
My jaw dropped when I watched this scene. The sheer gravity of it made heart sink.
@@MazBringsby same here, this incredible scene just came completely out of nowhere, I was not at all expecting anything of this depth. Hit me hard.
hes quoting the great poet machado
This is the most underrated movie.
So true...when life collapses so do you,
True true
true
This FILM was ripped to shreds by tiny minds in stupid clothes who fail to understand the gravity that awaits them on their doorstep.
By any measure
The best realist philosophy in the movie. You are the world you have created.
I feel like the entire movie was made just to get us to this scene.
In a sense any film is made to bring you to the denouement. As this beautiful speech implies: “at the understanding that life will not take you back.”
The counselor has lived his life as a seeker of perfect things. Yet he has allowed his moral compass to be guided by his need to be in control. Now he realizes, in a transcendent moment, that he would give up this control in order to protect the innocence and purity he covets, yet he finds that he cannot. That his control and his choices have destroyed that purity and innocence, and that his reward is grief. A fate worse even than death.
That and the scene with Westray in the bar
I have seen countless movies, if I were to put all those movies together, they would not equal this one scene.
@@theSuperviLLain_est like when i think back before i got married to that monster, friends would have talks like this, and I JUST DIDN"T GET IT. can totally relate to this dude.
@@abdulwahidburhani9245 then you watched a whole bunch of bad movies. This scene is possibly the best part of the entire film, but to say this scene is better than most of the movies you’ve saw, is insane.
pretty deep. you can be in a worry but the past is imposible to change. life is not going to take you back
The extinction of all reality is a concept no resignation can encompass...whoa.
cool quote, but a bit over the top, no ?
@@itonsohigh1206 Not at all. The end of sentience is so final that the sentient cannot even begin to fathom it because fathoming it would defeat the purpose of understanding what such nothingness actually feels like.
That means the scryptwriters studied philosophy.
this is a jewel. thank you for posting!
You're welcome!
In case you're wondering what he's saying in Spanish at 2:53: "Caminante, no hay camino,
se hace camino al andar."
Translation: "Walker, there is no path to follow, you make the path by walking"
thank you for the translation.
Thanks 👍
boy,that´s a big one!
Powerful!
Metaphysical BS! What is the sound of one hand clapping?
with the understanding that life is NOT gonna take you back! that is true acceptance right there!
Ruben Blades spoke so truly about actions and consequences in life!
Powerful
you need to reach age 40 or 50 to understand this speech
@@dr2599 this speech talks about people making choices that create consequences,,, i guess you miss the message on this speech,, perhaps his accent
What a masterclass. Symphonic.
The dialogue in this scene is among the best I have ever heard. Ruben Blades sustains a verbal and postural
tone for the entire time, such that I keep forgetting that Jefe is basking in the counselor's predicament,
positively luxuriating in the other man's misery. His joy is obvious as he cuts off every cry for hope or
sympathy: " I would do whatever you suggest." "I have no suggestions, counselor." When Jefe is done
dandling the counselor on his knee, he says he might take "a small nap". This whole scene is exemplary.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed this. Jefe voice is so soothing and soft spoken you almost forget how much he was toying with the Counselor and giving him false hope only to sweep the rug from under him. Especially when he waxed lyrical about the rules of exchange with no intention of giving the counselor the noble option of self sacrifice since his fiance is dead already and he's next. Throughout the film, one gets the idea that the Cartel can't stand the Counselor and saw the theft attempt on the Cocaine shipment as an excuse to put him to sleep.
Yes, ive never seen such cruelty disguised as profundity
I think Jefe has seen so many people killed and heard so many people beg that this is just another day of the week for him. Its one shipment that was even recovered. These guys do hundreds of shipments. He's simply saying the Counselor is going to pay like anyone else would.
He's not playing the guy.... the counselor keeps asking for help and does not accept his situation. "Why r you telling me this?" "Because you continue to deny the reality of the world you're in". I agree about the small nap "read" though.
He isn't being cruel to him. The Jefe had lost a son to these drug wars or some vendetta, so he knows his pain and is literally trying to help him.
This talk ...is epic ! This is what we were waiting for from the begining of movie.
This scene touches my soul!!!!
I felt this movie was misguided as fuck for the most part, but I love this scene. Ruben's cadence here is both ominous and strangely comforting even if I don't really know what the fuck he's talking about. His delivery is awesome.
He's basically saying the choices you made set actions in place that he can't undo no matter how badly he wishes. Ruben is basically telling him to come to terms with the fact he fucked up and got his girlfriend horrifically killed.
He's counseling "The" Counselor and also guiding him to acceptance, more to the point walking the path to get to it, as in acceptance and chiefly, the fact that now things have changed having to do so is going to be for life. "The world in which we made the mistake is different from the world in which we seek to undo the mistake" & "we are not here on some hiatus," as well as having The Counselor spell hiatus out says it all.
"In any case we should all prepare a place where we can accommodate the tragedies that will soon come over our life's but this is an economy too few care to practice"... if somebody told me this in 2010 💭
Batwing Kanikak You know now. All you can do is accept.
You can ruin your life. Or other people can. Always get informed and do the right thing. For some people like me this film makes a lot if sense. I lost my health out of ignorance. Not to drugs or alcohol. It was at work. I am afraid of people. They were as bad as drugs dealers that go around silently, in disguise, bad people in disguise.
Saw THE COUNSELOR for the first time last week and I can’t stop thinking about this scene
Too many people are living a smug life and believe they are not entitled to a hearty dose of humble pie to say thr least
Se la comió el poeta de la salsa ❤
This was a great performance. No doubt.
Ruben Blades! One of the few scenes I like. You ain't about that life, Counselor.
"When it comes to grief, the normal rules of exchange do not apply because grief, tanscends value.
A man, would give, entire nations, to lift grief off of his heart, yet you cannot buy anything with grief...because grief, is worthless."
I actually appreciated the Cartel character taking a few minutes to call the Counselor back. He started the phone call off with something along the lines of: I already told your friend this. Still, he found the time to talk to this stranger and in a seemingly genuine way offered legitimate advice. Suggests a level of professionalism in a strange way (to me).
Yeah real stand up type of guy!
@@lt8865 lol fair reaction
@@lt8865 like a lovable rogue uncle thats fun for all family gatherings.
This scene is the climax that defines the whole move. Leaves you wondering.
A great lesson on how to face the tragedies in life
This such a powerful scene. I can't help but find it funny though. The man calls to get help for his wife but instead gets a lesson on philosophy and metaphysics 😂
OMG that's really funny..
Because he tried to give the man he was begging for help an irrelevant "school" lesson in English.
That is the purpose of the scene
He has to be tortured for the release of his wife basically.one for one ....
@@jonerijuseppi3047 No, he is being told that there is nothing that he can do and that his wife is going to die or is already dead. The suffering he will endure before dying is worth more to them than allowing him to gain satisfaction in knowing that his death will allow his wife to live. "In any case we should all prepare a place where we can accommodate the tragedies that will soon come over our life's but this is an economy too few care to practice"
wow.. so powerful, this scebe is one of the best moment , I see it again and again it does not bore me
Favorite scene in the movie
Caminante no hay Camino
Caminante, son tus huellas
el camino y nada más;
Caminante, no hay camino,
se hace camino al andar.
Al andar se hace el camino,
y al volver la vista atrás
se ve la senda que nunca
se ha de volver a pisar.
Caminante no hay camino
sino estelas en la mar.
Wayfarer, there is no path
Wayfarer, the only way
Is your footprints and no other.
Wayfarer, there is no way.
Make your way by going farther.
By going farther, make your way
Till looking back at where you've wandered,
You look back on that path you may
Not set foot on from now onward.
Wayfarer, there is no way;
Only wake-trails on the waters.
-Antonio Machado
Thank you for providing Machado's poem, bi-lingual no less 🙏🏻
Thanks for posting this, i have watched this scene 100 times, those Words are the real deal, you made you bed now lay in it lol!
La mejor escena del cine gringo en decadas
This dialogue is pure Cormac. It might've worked a little better in a novel (as might have several other scenes in this film), but it has that same mystic brilliance that is unmistakably McCarthy.
could you recomend me a book by him to start reading his work?
@@mariofilho8880bit late but maybe start with no country for old men, as it's his easiest and simplest. Can be read in a day, you're familiar with the premise if you've seen the movie, and it was originally written as a screenplay - it's sort of Cormac Light. A challenging but utterly incredible read would be Blood Meridian, widely considered his magnum opus. Tough read at times and disgustingly violent with a prose style reminiscent of modernist writers, it's not the easiest, but a work that stays with you and a classic novel you can be proud of having read
Ruben Blades is THE Rennaissance Man of the 20/21st. Century.
all mcarthy's writing is just a vehicle to put certain characters in position to give these philosophical diatribes . .he is very good at writing them but to actually say them out loud in a movie in a way that is natural is a credit to this actor. many of the other a list actors in this movie didn't fare so well.
But I am not able to believe Mcarthy wrote this, I am familiar with his writing but this is not his I think.
@@tommyrozenblad235 I have to totally disagree. In his book The Crossing, there is a section where an ex priest is telling the main character a story about a man who lost his son and became a heretic. That entire dialogue is this scene on steroids.
@@Vivaldi1Dvorak2 thank your very much, searching for it right now!
@@tommyrozenblad235 It's near the beginning of Chapter 2, after the wolf dies. Billy is just wandering the desert, he meets 2 sisters, he meets another group where an old man gives him advice, and then he comes across the ex priest.
@@tommyrozenblad235 It really doesn't get more McCarthy than this.
People use the word underrated a lot now it seems. Though, this is one movie where I truly believe it to be so.
The realization. . .! ! !
This is along with the dinner scene of sicario the most intensive since silence of the lambs
I always like scenes like this. The scene in the movie Jaws is another one, where Quint is talking about his experience on the USS Indianapolis, although there is no person in that scene who's opposing him.
There is a third Exorcist movie which is kind of a true sequel to the original movie The Exorcist, called The Exorcist III or Exorcist Legion. The dialogue scenes between the detective played by George C Scott and the hospital patient played by Brad Dourif are amazing. That movie is a thriller a bit different from the original movie, although it was written by the guy who wrote the original Exorcist book.
grief transcends value
Spends 6 minutes providing therapy to the counselor, ends the session with an attempt at a quick nap. Brilliant.
I love this conversation.
I’m sorry y’all but this scene has me dying laughing 🤣. In reality dude is like “ain’t sh!t you can do. They told you not to do this shid . But you’re dumb as$ wasn’t happy enough with your well above average life. What’s done is done. They killed your girl. You’re next, get over it.” But he’s doing it in such elegant and philosophical fashion that it’s just hilarious to me. His cool charisma and grace are top notch and he’s entertaining to watch. But the scenario versus how this conversation is being carried out is fvgking hilarious… he finishes with “if I have time I think I’ll take a small nap” 🤣🤣🤣
Probably the nicest way of telling the counselor his fate and that of his fiance has already been sealed with not a damn thing he can do about it. He's practically a dead man walking. Hence the phrase "grief is worthless".
In few words:Take it like a man.
@@Senate300
Be like Devil that never prays or God that never sheds a tear.By the way, who can be like them?.
Or in other words “you put yourself in this situation. Don’t cry now because this was all your doing”.
@@Placesandspaces35 The counselor doesn't even get the option of a noble death. As in trading his life for his fiancé's. Instead he gets to live in agony & suffering over her being killed via snuff film until it's his turn for the chopping block.
Finally posted, thank you.
This clip must be in schools !!
Oscar Hernán G Bernal
During Philosophy classes.
Nope. It's not very revealing without the context of the movie
Sooo... That's a no right? You can't help me
HIATUS-a pause or gap in a sequence, series, or process
Best scene ever
"Where the bodies are buried in the desert is a certain world"
And yet in that despair which is transcendant you will find the "ancient understanding" that the philosphers don't which will always be found despised !... That's big big big time old school maaaaaaaaaafia.....
I think the wording is slightly different. Here's my take
"You will find the ancient understanding
that the philosophers stone will always be found despised and buried in the mud."
I'm still not entirely clear on the meaning here, but I believe it's a reference to transcendent notions of grief and human reluctance to accept it.
@@RoryDavidWatts the stone gives eternal life. And men discard eternal life until its time for death. Then it becomes important but its too late. Hence the reference of all the grand plans and designs. They matter more than life until death comes. Then life becomes more important than these plans. But its too late.
"where the bodied are buried in the desert, that is a certain world. ..where they are laying to be found is another world.......but these world's must have always been there ......."
"The Florida"
El Jefe's headquarters?
not many understand the dip meaning of this complete message,,, i guess you have to live life ,,, make mistakes suffer and than be able to understand this message!!
The seed you sow, is the one you REAP
Translated...Guy: Hey I'm screwed and I got my wife killed help?
Guy #2: Nah, ima eat and take a nap good luck tho.
Wasted pearls of wisdom on a man who's fates been sealed.
in a similar situation,about rewinding clocks but ofcourse not being able to do it!!
I hated this movie, but this one scene impacted me enough that I’m here looking it up years later.
Las decisiones que tomamos traen consecuencias buenas o malas dependiendo de la elección
I dont know anyone who has a good woed for the fim. Its a smidgen of being a master piece for me but somehow feels flawed. Tjis scene though is jaw dropping to me. In amother life -Fassbender would have had a an oscar.
*Life is one, do not play with life because just have one* _Some mistakes can be last_
I remember drunkenly climbing over a balcony railing and hanging off it when I was about 21. I always remember that and it chills me, I was 8 stories up. One slip and all reality would not exist for me.
He realized that he’s telling him that his woman is going to die and it’s his own fault and there’s nothing he can do about it now.
@@gossim this is very much a reality in Mexico. That's why some people think the movie is powerful and some think it's "over the top." From El Chapos trial we know he kept teenage girls around to rape as he believed it kept him young. These guys are sick.
@@gossim medium.com/matter/blood-on-the-corn-52ac13f7e643
I found that article several years ago when I was interested in looking up the DEA agent that Red Rinbon Day commemorates: Enrique Camarena. I had remembered watching a TV show based on him, had Craig T Nelson and I think Miguel Ferrer.
This article highlights just about everything you see here in this movie regarding the cartel. The brutality of the cartel, the innocent people they kill, even their "disbelief in coincidences":
When Brad Pitt's character is talking to Michael Fassbender's character, and he is talking about how these cartel people have heard of coincidences but never believe in them, an example of their paranoia in situations where the chips are down for them is highlighted once or twice in that article.
@@gossim They don't just think it's over the top. They think it's pretentious due to the philosophical speculations the film spouts half the time. Even if they're on point.
@@gossim the end of the movie her body is in a front end loader being dumped in a landfill so it wasn’t chopped up but it might as well have been.
@@rexoates3353 yeah they did beheaded her tho
Truth. Great video.
Sad, beautiful and powerful....Can anyone name the haunting score piece that comes in faintly at 4:44..?
All these worlds - Daniel Pendleton
Daurde, Sandstorm.
cameron diaz killed it. never in any film did i want her more. So many many lessons in this film. loved cameron in the confessional. "The soul of a woman was created below"...
" if i HAVE time i will take a nap"...
Great movie. Never have I wanted a sequel to be made so badly…just to see Cameron Diaz character Malkina get what’s coming to her. I had a visceral dislike of her at the end. Oddly the same as I did for Fassbenders character at the end of “12 yrs a Slave” …
This is a beautiful scene in a outstanding movie but i get crack out of when he corrects the man on the phone about mispronouncing the word hiatus! its kinda funny
maybe im the person in the world who has seen more times this movi....
tremendo monologo que se tiro ruben blades ,,,,,,creo que la pelicula tenia la intencion , pero no concreto lo que sucedio con el libro .....
Como pasa en el libro?
Is much true, is done,
It's a sad story but was real Ruben Blades has right.
Hellboy46 😣😣😣
Strange, this scene is different from what I saw last night. (amongst others, the 'hiatus' dialogue)
+Bart Nelis That's the same thing was about to say, i dont remember the hiatus line on the movie.
for some reason they cut this scene up. it's supposed to be 6:16 and for some reason the quality and that of what was said is compromised and cut. .
I love the HIATUS part. ...and the small nap lol
This is from the extended cut that you can get on blu. Theatrical is butchered.
We had the full dialogue which is even more than this, in Dutch theaters. Movie was good. This dialogue, within the context is something that no one seems to realize true art.
@@jasongsux3520 Not with this movie, but I hate it when the home release of a movie is different from the theatrical version, and it's worse.
I'm not 100% certain, but I think they did something like that with the Mel Gibson movie Payback. No Kris Kristofferson, no awesome climax with the "told you not to trust me" line.
the counselor himself seeks out for counseling (because he entered a world thats alien to him)
Business must be conducted in a businesslike way...otherwise there are unpleasant consequences.
Many dialogues like this are being held now as i write this.
Boy, Malkina sure did fuck up everyone in the movie, except the cartel of course.
Yep. Her theft attempt on the Cocaine shipment got everyone killed.
Ya estaba muerta
Grief is worthless. Unless you’re a funeral home director.
Or a psychiatrist/psychologist... AKA a "Counselor".
*badumpsh*
His decisions killed his wife.
Tiempo para olbidarme de ti. E1n2T3r4e5C6a7N8a9L1e2S
Someone is taking a shower in the background ?
I see. ^^
Lmao 😂 video just got 10 times better.
Is this guy showering, while uploading this clip?
Important question, 'How do u spell hiatus' LMFAO
My interpretation.
Right now you have a choice.
1. End your life and this reality as you know it also ends.
Or
2. if you stay alive, the reality of this world will punish you with grief you have (like most men) not prepared for.
A Schrodingers cat dichotomy mentioned far too often in film and media, but done remarkably well here.
From this part the character is in a deep agony, he cant change nothing at all, so terrible.
I'm back watching this great scene on actions and consequences to see which lines to steal as I give it to my bully boss whose balls are now firmly in my hands because of abusive emails he sent me. Up the worker. Finally.
Do you work for a Cartel or a billion dollar company? Otherwise these words won't mean much i'm afraid.
The only action you are legally allowed to take is to report the emails to HR. If "whose balls are now firmly in my hands" is a reference to using the emails to force him to give you money, an arbitrary raise, undue vacation time, or other such kickbacks, then that constitutes extortion--a felony punishable by up to 20 years imprisonment.
do you love your wife that u would change places with her ? Counselor says 'yes' then He asks if its a possibility, Ruben says its impossible, What is impossible?? I am confused, sure he wife will be killed, but what exactly does ruben mean? thx
Because she was already dead.
Just that it's impossible for him to be the one who's killed instead of his wife. Deal's done, she ded.
afterwards he got a plastic surgery, renamed himself 'Alejandro Gillick' , joined the rival Colombian Cartel and proceeded to work with the CIA to get his revenge......people who saw Sicario will understand haha
Yes.
Hahahaha
Allejandro was the ghost.. Played by Del Toro. None of this is relevant to Sicario other than being a Mexican/American movie. Weak..
U c him u me so who am i ?????