Nate, I've always admired that you took that trick so far. I actually liked to do them out of banks 270 to darkslide. One thing people don't really get is that pressure flips don't require huge amounts of scraping, and you can pop them so that they work sort of like a late back-foot flip, and off banks you can get them really high. Anyway, I've always loved your style. Good going and props for doing what you like to do rather than what people expect.
skating is like that.. its all for fun secretly hidden by a facade.. look at that new spitfire part on thrasher. the dude looks like he's irritated for landing huge tricks..
I dont skate anymore as my knees have given out,I was in my teens when huge jeans,cut down shoes,tiny wheels and mad flip tricks and I know that time is hated but at the time I loved it,not everyone skated super slow and some of those tricks done fast and with style looked great,plus the board graphics at time were insane,I miss those days😢😢😢
I am a teen and maybe you know how to save your knees? What did you do wrong that your knees have given out... I just read a lot of stories where people destroy their knees somehow and there are prople who skate imsane gaps like everyday and they are in their 30 maybe 40 still skate like normal.
@@dovydas4483 Do leg exercises to strengthen the muscles around your knees. Squats, lunges, chair pose, etc. Also, as you get older you need to stretch and warm up way more. Look up Knees Over Toes Guy on TH-cam. He's got good exercises to make your knees invincible.
Almost 9 minutes into this video and I realized you are aronl ! Dude I learned most of what I know watching your old trick tips. You evolved with the times still making killer quality and putting your great explanation into it. You're an inspiration
I was also stoked you reached out to Nate for this video. I know him personally as he opened Eduskate, the local skate shop in Cedar Rapids. He can go on about skateboarding forever, very knowledgable guy. Keep up the good work i have some catching up to do.
Ditto. There's nothing like the floating feeling of launching a high pressure flip up a sidewalk slope. Flick tricks are fine but flipping without flicking is a unique feeling.
Hey Aron, for me the returned interest in pressure flips came with Eric Koston doing them in Battle at the Berrics. I am unsure if this has had major impact, but in our little skatecommunity every trick from BatB was one worth trying. Anyway, keep up the work, this is great content!
It can be, but the ones who last are the ones who are just happy to be doing it and are happy to see others having fun with it too. You do you, boo boo.
Rebelliousness become Pretentiousness as you get older. But it’s a good thing in the end. Being pretentious is what makes the next generation rebel and try their own thing. Don’t like these assholes? Go show them how to make a pressure flip look good then :P
I can buy that Fissel invented (or at least popularized) them. I remember Ed Templeton being the first I saw doing them in 91 in HB and we all had to learn them after that. Took me probably 6-9 months to get down. I almost knocked myself out doing a 360 pf down a 3 stair, but stuck to other variations like fakie pf body varial (which I have footage of me last doing. That's how influential the trick was). Only thing I hated about the trick is it would ruin your board shape from all the scooping, I always did them on my nose to avoid screwing up my tail. Nice vid!
Dude I thought you looked familiar, I used to watch your how to videos YEARS ago! It's awesome to see that you are still around in the skate community!
I completely agree with the point on the tony hawks games, I think the influence of the games on actual skateboarding is very underestimated. Good job as usual sir!
Never had such a cerebral breakdown about a specific trick before. A well spent 15 minutes for sure. Have to go through all of your videos now. Very well done sir.
I'm new to skateboarding, but pressure flips were a set of tricks that I always found cool and fascinating since they seemed so different and unique to me (granted my limited knowledge). I think the fact they're so hated is what motivates me to learn them even more lol
holy shit lmao, when you showed your old skate tutorial I realized that I watched those way back in the day when you were uploading them. I actually tied to find the channel a while back to see if it was still up, I just got hella nostalgia.
No way...just the other day I was trying to find the 'how to' skate videos I used to watch years ago that had the wood box in the drive way..totally caught me off guard when I saw the familiar footage in this video then it totally blew me away when I realized it was you! This is the greatest thing ever. Found this channel about a month ago, much respect I'm learning all the things I never knew how to ask now lol
Provided they're done smooth and with good height - a lot of pressure flip variations look dope, and I've always dug them.. Mullen Parts always had them in em, and I always thought Mullen was the s*** - I still do...
your channel and content is so sick, skateboarding is so beautiful and so nuanced and weird and interesting and there's so much interesting things about the tricks and the culture and why it is the way it is and I love that you take advantage of it
Love this channel. I'm not really a "skater", but I've always followed skating. I'm just not very athletic. I've got very good balance and coordination, but no jump and speed. Anyway, I hope to get back to skating soon, as soon as this quarantine crap is over. But I'd like to say keep up the excellent videos. I always learn something.
I was skating back in this time. I started skating in 1989. I wasn't sponsored, but I had a fairly decent bag of tricks and didn't suck at a local session. I was totally roped into the ultra tech trend as a 12-14 year old kid, but the older kids I skated with completely hated it. History repeats itself. It was such a strange time for skating, which is hard to imagine unless you were there. Literally everything changed in the span of 2-3 years. Boards went from transition-oriented fish shapes with small noses to a period of crazy iterations of "double kick" and extra long noses (some boards had 8" long noses) until the dust settled into what modern kids would recognize as a modern board. Skate videos went from polished movies to shaky mom-cam footage pretty much overnight. This happened in the span of a couple years. The change happened so fast that you needed to relearn all your tricks on a completely different shape, weight and geometry. If you relied on your parents to buy you a board 2-3 times a year, what you were skating was barely related to what you were buying aside from being made of wood. The reason I hate/love pressure flips is because I was really good at impossibles in 1990-1991 and the next year impossibles were kinda passe and pressure flips were red hot. Impossibles and pressure flips are somewhat related, and I worked so hard to unlearn a full impossible scoop that it fell out of my muscle memory. I have mom-filmed footage of impossibles down a three set across from my house and they were so proper for such a small kid. I was even doing a bigspin version that was 540-ish looking. Boards at the time were transitioning from a square or fish tail shape into the popsicle/football, and I never got my impossibles back. I never relearned how to bite the tail into the ground and get a full wrap. I can still do pressure flips now and easily get a letter on almost anyone in the park that wants to goof around with a game of SKATE, but my impossibles are gone. (I get caught on 360 flips 95% of the time. I just can't do that trick. The young kids make it look effortless) If I could go back I would never learn pressure flips, because a properly scooped impossible just felt so good and powerful.
I think pressure flip variations are awesome. I loved them because they were different and nobody does them around me. I learned nollie pressure hardlips and switch pressure flips a few years ago, but forgot how to do those. I'd get the most confused looks from people when I did them, so much so that if I did them in a game of S.K.A.T.E. people would have me repeat them two or three times to make sure they weren't a total accident.
I learned pressure flips perfectly in the early 90's. I was so excited, I did them constantly. I swear, they went out of style like two weeks later. I didn't care, I kept doing them.
Yooo I've been watching your videos for a few days now. I learned how to skate using some of your videos way back in the day!! I used to watch them all the time. That was like 10 years ago man, that's insane, I can't believe that's you. Small world. Good to see you again on here!
I knew that youre gonna include Nate sherwood inside. That's the reason why I subscribed to him. Personally, i like pressure flips. They have its uniqueness and skills to it cause i was amazed on how much flip and rotation you can get from the back of your foot. I remembered one time, i was so inspired by one of nate's videos that i would try to do one but i didnt get it cause it was too hard.
Mike Carroll does a pressure flip over a picnic table in 2007 fully flared. Check it out. I remember rewinding the tape several times surprised to see him do it.
I can hardly differentiate any pressure flip from other standard flips. Pressure 360 or pressure hardflip or pressure impossible all look the same as their non pressure counterparts
Same. This is the first time I read about pressure flip hate. Rodney Mullen’s part with pressure flips and late flips was mind blowing to me as a kid, I loved it. I skateboarded for a long time in the early 00s and no one I know of considered me a poser… the pressure flip, varial kick flip, and mall grab hate is completely new to me. I don’t think it existed at all in NY where I was from at the time.
Those were my thing back in the 90s. I was one of the first in my group of friends to learn them and the different variations along with underflips, late flips, late shoves, and half Casper tricks. Most folks back then were just into stair gaps and big ollie tricks, I liked the more technical stuff. Sucks they got a bad rep, they look hella cool if you can land them clean and consistently. The only flips I really didn’t care for were heel flips...specifically inward heels because those caused me to eat it more than any other due to the board either under rotating or not flipping all the way and landing in primo.
I was 10 when I started to skate and got my first real board. I learned pressure flips and I still do them today. Every time the kids in the neighborhood come by with a board and see me skate they think they are cool. I've seen similar stuff happen in BMX. It all comes around and if you stick with what you like you will make yourself happy.
I absolutely love pressure flips, and I don't know why. I just think they look cool. EDIT: Just to add, Dario Juhasz has done some pressure flips, and he pops (pressures?) them super high. Did one down some stairs in one of Jonny Giger's videos, and it looked amazing.
I love them too.... but they have to be popped high and vertical. I can see why people don't like them, they do look a bit weird when they just flop around about 2 inches off the ground.
I had a monster pressure hardflip back in the day. that and v-flips were my only super consistent lands. I love watching people with nice pressure runs, but as a whole it really wasn't my jam.
Great video, I think any trick that blows up, and becomes common placed will end up being hated. Just look at no complies, they've been everywhere, but now people are beginning to mock the trick. It's just a natural cycle in skating.
I learned them in the 90's and still do them today. If you pop them they look similar to hardflips. I don't catch hate when I do them. I do pressure flip blunt to fakies on small transitions and people always wonder what hell hell I just rolled away from.
9:50 this is so true! always on hindsight things look different. Back then it was pretty cool. Now a Haslam or Cole comes alone starts having fun with those and they are back in!
That small mention of Chris fissels. "Possibly first 360 inward heel" was that before or after the one in "the ACME skateboard video(1992)" some guy did? Also it almost looked like a back foot Tre how wild it was haha
ive done an amazing pressure flip before. its the only time I ever caught one and it was like a front foot catch on a hard flip. I'm about to learn these again tbh
Still doing them, almost on every session. I somehow have always liked pressure flips and lately I've also felt them being great warm-up tricks (yeah, I'm not young anymore :) ). Same goes with fakie big spin, I somehow really like it and use it as a warm-up trick. But the one thing I hate about pressure flip is how, on especially a rougher terrain, it makes the side of your nose/tail a razor blade pretty fast.
Holy shit 360 inward heels in the early 90s! When i learned them back in 03-04 i didnt know or see anyone who did them but i would have had i consumed more videos and mags!! Very cool info!!!
When i learned my pressure flips i did em like my pop shuvits with the same pop and the same stance ( no ground sweepers) :). Sometimes i did pressure flips when i was supposed to do my pop shuvits. What I love to do is in a game of skate to pull out a pressure flip and watch the opponents drop their jaws to the ground and if there are someone who knows how to do em just do it with a body varial :) :) :)
I think a Soldier's Story was the first video where I saw them on big boards... but Sheffey kinda stole half the show with his confidence, and Donger took the other with his pop. 1281 was the next one I remember, and the first one where they were impossible to ignore, and Ron Knigge was probably my favorite section out of that whole bunch. For us up north, that was late 91/early 92. Of course, the cool kids caught on last, and were the first to ditch when Pack of Lies came out (Sanchez did one switch pf down some stairs and that was it). I also remember an interview where Mullen remembers seeing some German freestyler do a triple pf in 1983... I also remember a time when people would set-up for ollie impossibles by putting their front foot on the nose. At one point, they were derisively called "pressure impossibles" by at least my circle, but that's neither here-nor-there...
Your clips of Fissel have jogged my memory (yeah, he pretty much had the most variations; he certainly has the repertoire of an early adopter), but for his section (for me, at least), the standouts were that actual inward heelflip, and that (what I like to call a) Sal hardflip. Damn, I'm going to check his section again, thanks! :)
awesome videos! question idea for your next ask rad rat. Are rails for your board on a comeback? ive been seeing them more and more lately. thanks for making such great content!
I love it. It gives my opponent a letter in every game of skate! it’s my staple flip trick and I do it more frequently than kickflips. it was also my key to landing my first impossible. it’s a key to a lot of tricks lmao
I also don’t really get how a 360 flip is much different than a pressure flip. I haven’t landed one yet but I’m extremely close. I don’t have to do anything at all with my front foot. Just scoop my back foot and it goes. How’s that any different from a pressure flip I guess? One is a staple of skateboarding and one is hated (I guess, it was news to me ppl hated them)
@@stevebean1234 I couldn’t really land a tre flip it always ends up in a 3shuv. I could land varial flips but not tre’s tho. maybe pressure flips were hated because they find it difficult to figure out and they think it’s not worth learning because in reality, pressure flips look awkward. inward heels look awkward too. thlse two rotate the same. only some people can make them look good. they look like shuvits if you’re not really paying attention. and it’s a snake when it comes to game of skates, trust me. on the other hand, treflips look cool because you could really see it flipping and spinning mid air (either fast or slow) and it looks like you just gained control of a helicopter that was wilding mid air whenever you land it lmao. I don’t know if that made sense but that’s how I thought of it.
Hey man. I just found your channel and have been binging. I'm a real old timer. 45 years old and my second deck was a Santa Monica Airlines Natas (oohh! How about a video on SMA?) Anyway just wanted to say thanks for doing what you do. I just can't believe that kids actually got into skating AFTER playing Pro Skater. That's mind boggling! But it makes sense when I'm thinking about how fast kids progress now compared to how we did (or didn't) back when I first started. A mobbed kickflip was a big deal and took years to learn! But we didn't have the benefit of thinking that the shit a video game avatar could do was possible. Amazing.
I learned my nollie pressure hardflips by accident trying to learn nollie kickflips when I popped the nose under itself once, and with a little tuning got them to land (jumping back blind like fs pop shuvits) and mine I was always able to get them up and get a snappy catch at fair height, I always had compliments for it and nobody hated on them where I live.
Freestyle skaters were doing a version of kickflips called the pressure flip back in the 70s. You need to look for old Russ Howell and Chris Strople footage if it is available
You had a proper pop on your pressure flip back in the day! I did them when I started skating in the early 90s and they kind of just faded away in videos so we stopped doing them. The only time I remember making fun of them was years later when the "hard flippers" were clearly pressure flipping but acting like they were doing some insanely hard trick....I love Muska, but to my eyes a lot of his frontside flips had nothing to do with his front foot and were just frontside pressure flips
How is a 360 flip any different than a pressure flip these days ? Most ppl I see do 360 flips don’t do anything with the front foot at all. Very often the trick hugs the ground too. Anyway, the pressure flip hate is completely new to me even though I picked up a skateboard for the first time 18 years ago. I don’t understand how ppl hate them bc in retrospect I’ve seen tons of cool things I’d classify as pressure flips
Let me put it in context. 5 years late. I started in 87. From 90 to probably 93 Street skating evolved so quickly, tricks and their variations were invented, perfected and taken to ledges, stairs etc. In 93 skating kind of reached a point where pro skaters who had pop and kept it relatively simple were getting popular, such as j Wray, markovich, salman agah. Pro skaters and everyone else got choosy about what tricks they did. It wasn't just presure flips that got dropped by most people. Tricks such as impossibles, even front foot Impossibles, late shoves, late flips, late back foot flips. All came in from 91, but 2 years later were rarely seen. So the skaters in videos from mid to late 90s were doing classic, more aesthetically pleasing tricks. Speed, pop, and style were everything. Many of them could do the crazy early 90s tricks, but chose not too. I remember coz I was good at the tricks that became 'unfashionable', so was a bit sad that I wasn't doing a proper impossible, or Nollie back foot Impossibles. It probably sounds crazy by modern standards, but skating was getting to end of development, and finding its way, it was a more enclosed sport then, with info, development moving slower than today's Internet age. If I could do it all over again, I would do all the tricks, as skaters seem to do today.
Also little kids do a lot of pressure flips because their boards are relatively larger so they can get the flip easier, as well as pop and flick take more effort
For us it was two things- A lack of influential examples of pressure flips looking good (at the time). No enders or ads, etc. Yours in this video are literally some of the best looking ones I've ever seen. Second thing is that guys who did pressure flips that we knew couldn't (or wouldn't) do any of the standard tricks that were around the same tier, like bs & fs flips, 360s, etc. They'd also be the guy trying and missing impossibles instead of tres. Contrarian tricks
I think it's obviously why pressure flips got "lost". 1. Because they're very hard to go up or over something. 2. The board starts moving a lot earlier, so it's way harder to land them clean or impossible to land them same again and again. (Which u need, if you want to combine flipping with grinding aso.) So #3. People started to combine flip and grinds/manuals. Also gaps, like flip a 8 stair is much easier when you got a proper kickflip. Same reason like before; #4. You catch your board way faster! Which gives you a lot more control. That's my spontanious breakdown on that, altough I never landed a pressure flip I guess. But I had some flip grind/slide combinations whithin 2 years of skating, same with flipping a 8 stair, a london gap or a bump gap to flat. one.friend there always got two letters.on me with a pressure flip. (Fun fact; he did the same twice, just with a body varial) which is so easy, i can't understand why noone did that at the berrics. If Koston reads this comment he'll win next batb easily.
My thoughts. Small wheels had a part in this and the boards were really flat vs 89-91ish decks and the H-street heel concave days. It was actually really hard to pop trick. If you look back only a few guys really had a lot of pop during this phase. Personally I hated the small wheels and giant pants days so much I walked away from skating at the time and started back again years later. I still don't like video parts from that era. Gotta admit though I still like late shoves!
*The trick name of “Full cab” is Caballerial. Maybe you can do another video on tricks that have multiple names or how kickflip was first called magic flip.
A semi friend from high school is a professional skateboarder and I remember he would always get really annoyed when someone brought up Rodney mullen in his presence. I can distinctly remember him telling me "all he does are pressure flips." I didn't know what he was talking about or why he cared. Looking back on it I think he just didn't like a freestyle skater being more popular than a street skater.
I understand, appreciate, and respect that the 3-10min video format allows you to supply us with consistent content, but I legit marked out when I saw your 15 minute video length. I think pressure flips are hated for the same reason as no comply tricks. Some people who can't ollie are way better at pressure-flip/no-comply tricks than people who are very talented at "conventional" tricks.
No comply tricks are barely tricks to be fair. At least with pressure flips you need to have some form of coordination. You need to pop and land back down on the board without putting your feet down. I do like some no comply stuff, but I can no comply impossible but not ollie while rolling. EDIT: "Marked out" Wrestling fan?
@Stephen Bianchi your idea is nonsense since pressure flips require a lot of skating practice before doing them. Ollies and shuvits are totally required. Besides, there are many people out there who claim to be "talented" but who do not have the slightest clue about doing pressure flips. Pressure flips have nothing to do with no complies, LOL how on earth came you up with that??? XD
I literally said no comply flips. I'm not talking about regular no complies. Watch the no comply big heel tutorial on this channel. You do need to scoop some no comply flips. Read the comment again.
So, I'm trying to understand what a pressure flip is. Your description was a tad bit vague, but is it safe to say that pressure flips don't involved any direct flip from your feet? It's all about how you "pop it or scoop it", as you put it. I'm not a skateboarder, so it's not like I'm trying to learn them, but I'm just interested in trying to understand some of this.
Heck,I still do pressure flips from time to time,at least the inward heelflip type and the ollie impossible in it's original form where you compress both kick tails. To be honest,I've never cared in the slightest bit what the industry thinks,considering how old I am it's not as if I'll ever be likely to ever be sponsored in the first place. If someone wants to dis on my skating for using such techniques then that's their choice but it's never gonna make me want to quit doing them,regardless. I say skate however you like,as it's nobody's business but your own,anyway.
Thoughts on Muska? I've always been a huge fan. Had style at a time when style wasn't really a thing. Some people say he was "style over substance" (grinding a handrail while holding a boombox etc) but I disagree. I think his Fulfil The Dream part was good by any standard.
I didn’t like him back in the day, I wouldn’t say I disliked him but I wasn’t blown away. I appreciate him in retrospect. His legs move in these broad slow strokes that are kind of cool. IMO, and I’m biased because his deck was the first board I ever had, but Kerry Getz had my favorite style of all time. Maybe not terribly complex but his kick flips are glorious. Musks had style for sure I guess I just loved kickflips the most back then too. PS, skateboarding with a boom box is wayyyy cooler than these Gen Z kids skating at the Olympics with air pods haha. I feel like skateboarding has been whitewashed for the new generation and it makes me miss characters like Muska :) My .02
Facts with the Tony hawk game not mentioning the pressure flip. I only knew it existed because of the weird moments it came up on the game. Then I looked it up on youtube in 2007 while tryna learn something " lesser known " and seen Tony hawk and Mike Vallelys video, there was also da video about no complys too,
my favourite skate related channel, wish u had more subs, u def. deserve it. Sadly, kids just wanna see some guys playing game of skate on wallmart boards or doing bottle flips. What do you think of people that dont skate wearing Thrasher merch? I know people who didnt skate wore skate brands since ever, but with Thrasher its kinda different i think. The main product is the mag, the clothing is just a merch. It's like wearing shirt with a band u dont even know. I've wondered who made it so cool to wear. I hope its not gonna end like with Supreme.
Damn, Mike V is so 'macho' in that Tony Hawk trick tips video. Kind of ironic, that hes all into' being an outsider, and all like: "doesn't matter what other people say! Just be you!' etc. and then he is all 'anti' pressure flips. But maybe it was just a joke / skit.
I think it's meant to be funny but coming from a place of truth. As cool as Mike V is, he definitely seems like the type of guy to hate on something for no reason.
So this clears up that weird pressure flip that I thought I created in 05, nollie pressure hardflip. Never saw it before and none if the older guys with a decade on me knew what it was. We just called it what it looked like, nollie pressure hardflip. After a while I started messing around with it. Got n p frontside flips, n p hard double flips, n p frontside double flips. Switch p hardflip and frontside flips. The hardest one by far was the nollie pressure 360 frontside flip. That thing had to be popped high and caught early to get the full 360.
@@BigFatCock0 I have tight trucks, I can’t do them. Not sure I tried more than a few days but I skateboarded every day for 4yrs in the early 00s. Maybe people would consider me bad or a poser now, no one seemed to back then. And at the end of the day it was all fun. So idk.
Some fools went crazy with that trick. Also frontfoot impossibles and dudes going hella slow trying late shuvits off the block, sporting some purposely cutoff at the lower leg goofyboy jeans/pants it wasn't a good look on most. But switch 180s and normal pressureflips were dope back then, depended how u did it or who did that trick though.
I love your research skills, Mr. R. Ah, the infamous BB#3 editorial... although I still think Dae Won, Guy, Koston and Ternasky played their parts IMHO with their own take on the shape of skating to come back then. Especially Guy's POL montage... 25 years later and still gives me goosebumps - A comment about the quality - if more had performed theirs like Nate (I think Henry and Carroll came close), perhaps they wouldn't have collapsed like they did. Another possibility that comes to my mind though, is that a lot of more ollie-flip-based guys (like the above pros which I mentioned) in my community were somewhat blindsided by the popularity of the whole pressure thing: Unlike the late shove-its/flips (which collapsed just as hard), they couldn't seem to get it like the rest of us mere mortals (a lot of whom that couldn't even kickflip over a deck on its side). The big-kickflip era (or pop-shove-it revival) of the late 92-early 94 period was an attempt to not only bring skating back from the brink of disappearing up its own butt, it was a backlash against those of us who were focusing less on quality, more on quantity, and for at least a few months in 1992, were able to show up the big melon crowd.
I think seeing the pressure flip in the Plan B, Virtual Reality, video, is what made me want to skate even more. That and the split screen. But I never learned or tried a pressure flip. I’m glad you mentioned verial flips. 😆 They were considered super lame to do. So funny. I wish skating could go back to Full Cabs shoes, huge jean shorts, tiny wheels, wallet chains, and pressure flips. Ha-ha. The good old days.
I see them banned in games of skate alot. Ppl get pissed bc they are actually somewhat hard to do or they don't know how to and I think that's why it gets alot of hate now. Mostly bc ppl don't wanna learn it
Keep up the videos man, your channel will explode for sure. You might need to spice up some of your video titles and thumbnails a little though. Hope you don't take it the wrong way but I'm still shooting you a sub for sure. Keen to see more.
Yeah, 'Why Are Pressure Flips Hated' is perfect. I'm not too sure about the 'Get the Full Story' inclusion though. As long as you keep it brief yet sharp, you'll see movement in views. Tags and a good title is truly half the battle. Your content is top tier but you need the audience.
You are super correct sir 90 to 92 were my hardcord skate time and in those times small tec flip tricks were rad its what I did and I was just as cool as anyone I broke my bord out for 6 months when I finally got a new one no liked my skating at all and ya my best tricks which were pressure to noise slides grinds and so on people didn't even like them anymore I got so much criticism and seriously 6 months before people thought I was rad those guys couldn't even do my pressure noise slide but I ended up quitting the next time I broke my bord I just thought by the time I get a new things will be so different I'll get laughed at Really did suck for me
Hmm thinking about it what is the difference between 360 flips/pressure and hardflips/pressure? Is it all in the pop or scoop? Trey flips are pretty much all scoop
dude you are brillant sir. I am honored. thank You for the kind words and respect. So kool you are a gentelmen and a Scholor ....
Thanks Nate!
no prob u rock bro an are my new hero. :)huge respect sir
Rad Rat Video mr rat do u think rodney mullen couldve won the berrics
Nate, I've always admired that you took that trick so far. I actually liked to do them out of banks 270 to darkslide. One thing people don't really get is that pressure flips don't require huge amounts of scraping, and you can pop them so that they work sort of like a late back-foot flip, and off banks you can get them really high. Anyway, I've always loved your style. Good going and props for doing what you like to do rather than what people expect.
thanks brother i am deeply honored dude , so kool ur dark slide combo sounds epic. if u r ever in iowa lets go shred.
Bums me out that any kid can learn pressure flips in an afternoon. Been trying them for years and still can't land one.
dont even waste time on'em. pop and flick with grace and power
I hung my head in shame on that line too :( I spent months on varial kickflips!
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This is nonsense, I know 100's of good skaters who cant do them
07 grimdrummer its easier when your trucks are tight. Like any other trick..
I just don't get y people hate on tricks lol it's all for fun
hate is just part of skateboarding culture
Cuz they can't land them 👀
skating is like that.. its all for fun secretly hidden by a facade.. look at that new spitfire part on thrasher. the dude looks like he's irritated for landing huge tricks..
Hating creates a cheap imitation of personality
Sound like they prefer hating over skating.
I dont skate anymore as my knees have given out,I was in my teens when huge jeans,cut down shoes,tiny wheels and mad flip tricks and I know that time is hated but at the time I loved it,not everyone skated super slow and some of those tricks done fast and with style looked great,plus the board graphics at time were insane,I miss those days😢😢😢
I am a teen and maybe you know how to save your knees? What did you do wrong that your knees have given out... I just read a lot of stories where people destroy their knees somehow and there are prople who skate imsane gaps like everyday and they are in their 30 maybe 40 still skate like normal.
@@dovydas4483 Do leg exercises to strengthen the muscles around your knees. Squats, lunges, chair pose, etc. Also, as you get older you need to stretch and warm up way more.
Look up Knees Over Toes Guy on TH-cam. He's got good exercises to make your knees invincible.
Get good shoes and don’t bail lol
Almost 9 minutes into this video and I realized you are aronl ! Dude I learned most of what I know watching your old trick tips. You evolved with the times still making killer quality and putting your great explanation into it. You're an inspiration
+SkateIslam yep that's me! Thanks for the kind words
I was also stoked you reached out to Nate for this video. I know him personally as he opened Eduskate, the local skate shop in Cedar Rapids. He can go on about skateboarding forever, very knowledgable guy. Keep up the good work i have some catching up to do.
+SkateIslam it was cool, but his info wasn't quite right.. Check the update video
man i shot;ld have had more time life is a pinch in here . i need to quit my job to study as hard as u guys do. lol
i would like to know where i was wrong?
Im just gonna leave this here as a Bus Stop for my Acid Trip right now. Thank you so much Rad Rat!
dude you are a living breathing skateboarding encyclopedia. iv'e just started watching your channel recently. good shit.
nate is my local skateshop owner and good buddy. very good man and amazing to know on a personal level. amazing human being
:)
@@natepressureflipsherwood wow soo cool seeing you here
@@justmetal227 thanks 4 the kind words bro.
@@natepressureflipsherwood you're awesome man!
erik ellington's pressure flip over that gap in longbeach was sweet
Ellington makes anything look good
antwan dixion does a nice popped one on his insta clips on yt
VLSkate Fuck yeah, it was.
I skated in '92. I can still pressure flip.
Ditto. There's nothing like the floating feeling of launching a high pressure flip up a sidewalk slope. Flick tricks are fine but flipping without flicking is a unique feeling.
@@rkulla They look so cool to me, it's like it takes no effort but in a good way.
You're creating an amazing content, for real. Thanks. Love to know about all these topics
Thank you!
Hey Aron, for me the returned interest in pressure flips came with Eric Koston doing them in Battle at the Berrics. I am unsure if this has had major impact, but in our little skatecommunity every trick from BatB was one worth trying. Anyway, keep up the work, this is great content!
just started skating. didnt realise skating world is so pretentious
I'm in the same boat.
the people that think things should be done a certain way are the real posers.
It can be, but the ones who last are the ones who are just happy to be doing it and are happy to see others having fun with it too. You do you, boo boo.
Rebelliousness become Pretentiousness as you get older. But it’s a good thing in the end. Being pretentious is what makes the next generation rebel and try their own thing. Don’t like these assholes? Go show them how to make a pressure flip look good then :P
@@fatass4985 This dude gets it. Skate for you, and to hell with everybody else who acts pretentious.
I can buy that Fissel invented (or at least popularized) them. I remember Ed Templeton being the first I saw doing them in 91 in HB and we all had to learn them after that. Took me probably 6-9 months to get down. I almost knocked myself out doing a 360 pf down a 3 stair, but stuck to other variations like fakie pf body varial (which I have footage of me last doing. That's how influential the trick was). Only thing I hated about the trick is it would ruin your board shape from all the scooping, I always did them on my nose to avoid screwing up my tail. Nice vid!
Cool story. Glad someone is admitting to them taking a while, lots of people saying they learned them in an afternoon
Dude I thought you looked familiar, I used to watch your how to videos YEARS ago! It's awesome to see that you are still around in the skate community!
I completely agree with the point on the tony hawks games, I think the influence of the games on actual skateboarding is very underestimated.
Good job as usual sir!
Thank you!
p flips 4 life :)
big naaattteeeeeeee, the king of street
Pressure flips and that era are the best things could happen to skateboarding!!!
Never had such a cerebral breakdown about a specific trick before. A well spent 15 minutes for sure. Have to go through all of your videos now. Very well done sir.
I'm new to skateboarding, but pressure flips were a set of tricks that I always found cool and fascinating since they seemed so different and unique to me (granted my limited knowledge). I think the fact they're so hated is what motivates me to learn them even more lol
holy shit lmao, when you showed your old skate tutorial I realized that I watched those way back in the day when you were uploading them. I actually tied to find the channel a while back to see if it was still up, I just got hella nostalgia.
No way...just the other day I was trying to find the 'how to' skate videos I used to watch years ago that had the wood box in the drive way..totally caught me off guard when I saw the familiar footage in this video then it totally blew me away when I realized it was you! This is the greatest thing ever. Found this channel about a month ago, much respect I'm learning all the things I never knew how to ask now lol
Provided they're done smooth and with good height - a lot of pressure flip variations look dope, and I've always dug them..
Mullen Parts always had them in em, and I always thought Mullen was the s*** - I still do...
your channel and content is so sick, skateboarding is so beautiful and so nuanced and weird and interesting and there's so much interesting things about the tricks and the culture and why it is the way it is and I love that you take advantage of it
Love this channel. I'm not really a "skater", but I've always followed skating. I'm just not very athletic. I've got very good balance and coordination, but no jump and speed. Anyway, I hope to get back to skating soon, as soon as this quarantine crap is over. But I'd like to say keep up the excellent videos. I always learn something.
The pressure flip was one of the only flip tricks I could do back in the early nineties. I loved 'em. They did wear out your tail though.
I was skating back in this time. I started skating in 1989. I wasn't sponsored, but I had a fairly decent bag of tricks and didn't suck at a local session. I was totally roped into the ultra tech trend as a 12-14 year old kid, but the older kids I skated with completely hated it. History repeats itself. It was such a strange time for skating, which is hard to imagine unless you were there. Literally everything changed in the span of 2-3 years. Boards went from transition-oriented fish shapes with small noses to a period of crazy iterations of "double kick" and extra long noses (some boards had 8" long noses) until the dust settled into what modern kids would recognize as a modern board. Skate videos went from polished movies to shaky mom-cam footage pretty much overnight. This happened in the span of a couple years. The change happened so fast that you needed to relearn all your tricks on a completely different shape, weight and geometry. If you relied on your parents to buy you a board 2-3 times a year, what you were skating was barely related to what you were buying aside from being made of wood.
The reason I hate/love pressure flips is because I was really good at impossibles in 1990-1991 and the next year impossibles were kinda passe and pressure flips were red hot. Impossibles and pressure flips are somewhat related, and I worked so hard to unlearn a full impossible scoop that it fell out of my muscle memory. I have mom-filmed footage of impossibles down a three set across from my house and they were so proper for such a small kid. I was even doing a bigspin version that was 540-ish looking. Boards at the time were transitioning from a square or fish tail shape into the popsicle/football, and I never got my impossibles back. I never relearned how to bite the tail into the ground and get a full wrap. I can still do pressure flips now and easily get a letter on almost anyone in the park that wants to goof around with a game of SKATE, but my impossibles are gone. (I get caught on 360 flips 95% of the time. I just can't do that trick. The young kids make it look effortless) If I could go back I would never learn pressure flips, because a properly scooped impossible just felt so good and powerful.
Have you tried it fakie? Or half cab?
Glad it was a longer video 😊 best video
I think pressure flip variations are awesome. I loved them because they were different and nobody does them around me. I learned nollie pressure hardlips and switch pressure flips a few years ago, but forgot how to do those. I'd get the most confused looks from people when I did them, so much so that if I did them in a game of S.K.A.T.E. people would have me repeat them two or three times to make sure they weren't a total accident.
do a video on varial kickfilps
fantastic video man! I've been wondering about this topic for a while, perfect timing
I learned pressure flips perfectly in the early 90's. I was so excited, I did them constantly. I swear, they went out of style like two weeks later. I didn't care, I kept doing them.
bassage13 they look so steezy tho but so late
Yooo I've been watching your videos for a few days now. I learned how to skate using some of your videos way back in the day!! I used to watch them all the time. That was like 10 years ago man, that's insane, I can't believe that's you. Small world. Good to see you again on here!
I knew that youre gonna include Nate sherwood inside. That's the reason why I subscribed to him. Personally, i like pressure flips. They have its uniqueness and skills to it cause i was amazed on how much flip and rotation you can get from the back of your foot. I remembered one time, i was so inspired by one of nate's videos that i would try to do one but i didnt get it cause it was too hard.
There's no way I could talk about them without him! He's the king
thanks dude
Dude this is probably one of the best skate-related anythings on the Internet. PLEASE keep this up
Mike Carroll does a pressure flip over a picnic table in 2007 fully flared. Check it out. I remember rewinding the tape several times surprised to see him do it.
I can hardly differentiate any pressure flip from other standard flips. Pressure 360 or pressure hardflip or pressure impossible all look the same as their non pressure counterparts
Same. This is the first time I read about pressure flip hate. Rodney Mullen’s part with pressure flips and late flips was mind blowing to me as a kid, I loved it.
I skateboarded for a long time in the early 00s and no one I know of considered me a poser… the pressure flip, varial kick flip, and mall grab hate is completely new to me. I don’t think it existed at all in NY where I was from at the time.
Those were my thing back in the 90s. I was one of the first in my group of friends to learn them and the different variations along with underflips, late flips, late shoves, and half Casper tricks. Most folks back then were just into stair gaps and big ollie tricks, I liked the more technical stuff. Sucks they got a bad rep, they look hella cool if you can land them clean and consistently. The only flips I really didn’t care for were heel flips...specifically inward heels because those caused me to eat it more than any other due to the board either under rotating or not flipping all the way and landing in primo.
I was 10 when I started to skate and got my first real board. I learned pressure flips and I still do them today. Every time the kids in the neighborhood come by with a board and see me skate they think they are cool. I've seen similar stuff happen in BMX. It all comes around and if you stick with what you like you will make yourself happy.
So stoked to see you making new content again. Definitely resubscribed. Cool to see a different type of skater still shredding it.
I absolutely love pressure flips, and I don't know why. I just think they look cool.
EDIT: Just to add, Dario Juhasz has done some pressure flips, and he pops (pressures?) them super high. Did one down some stairs in one of Jonny Giger's videos, and it looked amazing.
Dario is king
That's true.
I love them too....
but they have to be popped high and vertical. I can see why people don't like them, they do look a bit weird when they just flop around about 2 inches off the ground.
Shaun E Yeah, that's true.
I had a monster pressure hardflip back in the day. that and v-flips were my only super consistent lands. I love watching people with nice pressure runs, but as a whole it really wasn't my jam.
Great video, I think any trick that blows up, and becomes common placed will end up being hated. Just look at no complies, they've been everywhere, but now people are beginning to mock the trick. It's just a natural cycle in skating.
Nice work! Long or short, your content is always great!
Thank you very much!
I learned them in the 90's and still do them today. If you pop them they look similar to hardflips.
I don't catch hate when I do them. I do pressure flip blunt to fakies on small transitions and people always wonder what hell hell I just rolled away from.
9:50 this is so true! always on hindsight things look different. Back then it was pretty cool. Now a Haslam or Cole comes alone starts having fun with those and they are back in!
That small mention of Chris fissels. "Possibly first 360 inward heel" was that before or after the one in "the ACME skateboard video(1992)" some guy did? Also it almost looked like a back foot Tre how wild it was haha
Fantastic!!!
Really REALLY enjoying these videos :) Keep this awesome content coming my brother!
You predicted the future, pressure flips are cool again.
glad to find your new channel, I was watching your trick tip videos 10 years ago and was wondering what happened to you.
ive done an amazing pressure flip before. its the only time I ever caught one and it was like a front foot catch on a hard flip. I'm about to learn these again tbh
Wow, it's here! Finally ^^
Thx for that and special thx for a 15-min-lenght!
* popcorn *
Still doing them, almost on every session. I somehow have always liked pressure flips and lately I've also felt them being great warm-up tricks (yeah, I'm not young anymore :) ). Same goes with fakie big spin, I somehow really like it and use it as a warm-up trick. But the one thing I hate about pressure flip is how, on especially a rougher terrain, it makes the side of your nose/tail a razor blade pretty fast.
Its like there's aronl the guy who explained trick tips pretty well and this is Aronl 2.0 with spot on analysis and interesting commentary! I like it.
Looking forward to going out and practicing my pressure flips when this storm goes away...
Holy shit 360 inward heels in the early 90s! When i learned them back in 03-04 i didnt know or see anyone who did them but i would have had i consumed more videos and mags!! Very cool info!!!
When i learned my pressure flips i did em like my pop shuvits with the same pop and the same stance ( no ground sweepers) :). Sometimes i did pressure flips when i was supposed to do my pop shuvits. What I love to do is in a game of skate to pull out a pressure flip and watch the opponents drop their jaws to the ground and if there are someone who knows how to do em just do it with a body varial :) :) :)
I think a Soldier's Story was the first video where I saw them on big boards... but Sheffey kinda stole half the show with his confidence, and Donger took the other with his pop. 1281 was the next one I remember, and the first one where they were impossible to ignore, and Ron Knigge was probably my favorite section out of that whole bunch. For us up north, that was late 91/early 92. Of course, the cool kids caught on last, and were the first to ditch when Pack of Lies came out (Sanchez did one switch pf down some stairs and that was it). I also remember an interview where Mullen remembers seeing some German freestyler do a triple pf in 1983...
I also remember a time when people would set-up for ollie impossibles by putting their front foot on the nose. At one point, they were derisively called "pressure impossibles" by at least my circle, but that's neither here-nor-there...
Your clips of Fissel have jogged my memory (yeah, he pretty much had the most variations; he certainly has the repertoire of an early adopter), but for his section (for me, at least), the standouts were that actual inward heelflip, and that (what I like to call a) Sal hardflip. Damn, I'm going to check his section again, thanks! :)
awesome videos! question idea for your next ask rad rat. Are rails for your board on a comeback? ive been seeing them more and more lately. thanks for making such great content!
Thanks! I talked about those a bit before. Check Ask Rad Rat 17
I love it. It gives my opponent a letter in every game of skate! it’s my staple flip trick and I do it more frequently than kickflips. it was also my key to landing my first impossible. it’s a key to a lot of tricks lmao
I also don’t really get how a 360 flip is much different than a pressure flip. I haven’t landed one yet but I’m extremely close. I don’t have to do anything at all with my front foot. Just scoop my back foot and it goes. How’s that any different from a pressure flip I guess? One is a staple of skateboarding and one is hated (I guess, it was news to me ppl hated them)
@@stevebean1234 I couldn’t really land a tre flip it always ends up in a 3shuv. I could land varial flips but not tre’s tho. maybe pressure flips were hated because they find it difficult to figure out and they think it’s not worth learning because in reality, pressure flips look awkward. inward heels look awkward too. thlse two rotate the same. only some people can make them look good. they look like shuvits if you’re not really paying attention. and it’s a snake when it comes to game of skates, trust me. on the other hand, treflips look cool because you could really see it flipping and spinning mid air (either fast or slow) and it looks like you just gained control of a helicopter that was wilding mid air whenever you land it lmao. I don’t know if that made sense but that’s how I thought of it.
Hey man. I just found your channel and have been binging. I'm a real old timer. 45 years old and my second deck was a Santa Monica Airlines Natas (oohh! How about a video on SMA?) Anyway just wanted to say thanks for doing what you do. I just can't believe that kids actually got into skating AFTER playing Pro Skater. That's mind boggling! But it makes sense when I'm thinking about how fast kids progress now compared to how we did (or didn't) back when I first started. A mobbed kickflip was a big deal and took years to learn! But we didn't have the benefit of thinking that the shit a video game avatar could do was possible. Amazing.
Ppl hate tricks they can't do, can't do well, or it got them a letter in skate, any trick can be made to look awesome
I learned my nollie pressure hardflips by accident trying to learn nollie kickflips when I popped the nose under itself once, and with a little tuning got them to land (jumping back blind like fs pop shuvits) and mine I was always able to get them up and get a snappy catch at fair height, I always had compliments for it and nobody hated on them where I live.
Henry Sanchez also did a pressure flip in his sight unseen part. With Style! Respect for your quality content!
Freestyle skaters were doing a version of kickflips called the pressure flip back in the 70s. You need to look for old Russ Howell and Chris Strople footage if it is available
You had a proper pop on your pressure flip back in the day! I did them when I started skating in the early 90s and they kind of just faded away in videos so we stopped doing them. The only time I remember making fun of them was years later when the "hard flippers" were clearly pressure flipping but acting like they were doing some insanely hard trick....I love Muska, but to my eyes a lot of his frontside flips had nothing to do with his front foot and were just frontside pressure flips
How is a 360 flip any different than a pressure flip these days ? Most ppl I see do 360 flips don’t do anything with the front foot at all. Very often the trick hugs the ground too.
Anyway, the pressure flip hate is completely new to me even though I picked up a skateboard for the first time 18 years ago. I don’t understand how ppl hate them bc in retrospect I’ve seen tons of cool things I’d classify as pressure flips
There was a couple of pressure flips in the LIfe video "soldiers story" even a 360 pressure to fakie on a quarter
What's the difference between a pressure flip and a regular trick like a kick flip? I'm not a skater, but I seen popping and whatnot.
Let me put it in context. 5 years late. I started in 87. From 90 to probably 93 Street skating evolved so quickly, tricks and their variations were invented, perfected and taken to ledges, stairs etc. In 93 skating kind of reached a point where pro skaters who had pop and kept it relatively simple were getting popular, such as j Wray, markovich, salman agah. Pro skaters and everyone else got choosy about what tricks they did. It wasn't just presure flips that got dropped by most people. Tricks such as impossibles, even front foot Impossibles, late shoves, late flips, late back foot flips. All came in from 91, but 2 years later were rarely seen. So the skaters in videos from mid to late 90s were doing classic, more aesthetically pleasing tricks. Speed, pop, and style were everything. Many of them could do the crazy early 90s tricks, but chose not too. I remember coz I was good at the tricks that became 'unfashionable', so was a bit sad that I wasn't doing a proper impossible, or Nollie back foot Impossibles. It probably sounds crazy by modern standards, but skating was getting to end of development, and finding its way, it was a more enclosed sport then, with info, development moving slower than today's Internet age. If I could do it all over again, I would do all the tricks, as skaters seem to do today.
Also little kids do a lot of pressure flips because their boards are relatively larger so they can get the flip easier, as well as pop and flick take more effort
I can’t even Ollie, but your videos are still fun to watch
For us it was two things-
A lack of influential examples of pressure flips looking good (at the time). No enders or ads, etc. Yours in this video are literally some of the best looking ones I've ever seen.
Second thing is that guys who did pressure flips that we knew couldn't (or wouldn't) do any of the standard tricks that were around the same tier, like bs & fs flips, 360s, etc. They'd also be the guy trying and missing impossibles instead of tres. Contrarian tricks
I think it's obviously why pressure flips got "lost". 1. Because they're very hard to go up or over something. 2. The board starts moving a lot earlier, so it's way harder to land them clean or impossible to land them same again and again. (Which u need, if you want to combine flipping with grinding aso.) So #3. People started to combine flip and grinds/manuals. Also gaps, like flip a 8 stair is much easier when you got a proper kickflip. Same reason like before; #4. You catch your board way faster! Which gives you a lot more control. That's my spontanious breakdown on that, altough I never landed a pressure flip I guess. But I had some flip grind/slide combinations whithin 2 years of skating, same with flipping a 8 stair, a london gap or a bump gap to flat. one.friend there always got two letters.on me with a pressure flip. (Fun fact; he did the same twice, just with a body varial) which is so easy, i can't understand why noone did that at the berrics.
If Koston reads this comment he'll win next batb easily.
My thoughts. Small wheels had a part in this and the boards were really flat vs 89-91ish decks and the H-street heel concave days. It was actually really hard to pop trick. If you look back only a few guys really had a lot of pop during this phase. Personally I hated the small wheels and giant pants days so much I walked away from skating at the time and started back again years later. I still don't like video parts from that era. Gotta admit though I still like late shoves!
Because people can’t do them. Any hate you see from anyone in the skateboard world comes from inability or ineptitude.
*The trick name of “Full cab” is Caballerial. Maybe you can do another video on tricks that have multiple names or how kickflip was first called magic flip.
A semi friend from high school is a professional skateboarder and I remember he would always get really annoyed when someone brought up Rodney mullen in his presence. I can distinctly remember him telling me "all he does are pressure flips." I didn't know what he was talking about or why he cared. Looking back on it I think he just didn't like a freestyle skater being more popular than a street skater.
I understand, appreciate, and respect that the 3-10min video format allows you to supply us with consistent content, but I legit marked out when I saw your 15 minute video length.
I think pressure flips are hated for the same reason as no comply tricks. Some people who can't ollie are way better at pressure-flip/no-comply tricks than people who are very talented at "conventional" tricks.
No comply tricks are barely tricks to be fair. At least with pressure flips you need to have some form of coordination. You need to pop and land back down on the board without putting your feet down. I do like some no comply stuff, but I can no comply impossible but not ollie while rolling.
EDIT: "Marked out" Wrestling fan?
@Stephen Bianchi your idea is nonsense since pressure flips require a lot of skating practice before doing them. Ollies and shuvits are totally required. Besides, there are many people out there who claim to be "talented" but who do not have the slightest clue about doing pressure flips. Pressure flips have nothing to do with no complies, LOL how on earth came you up with that??? XD
No comply flips are basically one footed pressure flips. You don't flick them, you just pop or scoop.
No. for a no comply you have to tap the board on the tail, you do not need to scoop them unless you are trying a pressure no comply
I literally said no comply flips. I'm not talking about regular no complies. Watch the no comply big heel tutorial on this channel. You do need to scoop some no comply flips. Read the comment again.
I was there when that clip at 6:40 was filmed. Interskate 91 in Massachusetts.
You're like a Skate Historian! Incredible content as always
So, I'm trying to understand what a pressure flip is. Your description was a tad bit vague, but is it safe to say that pressure flips don't involved any direct flip from your feet? It's all about how you "pop it or scoop it", as you put it. I'm not a skateboarder, so it's not like I'm trying to learn them, but I'm just interested in trying to understand some of this.
I always thought it was getting the flip from your weight distribution.
always high quality videos! love these!
Heck,I still do pressure flips from time to time,at least the inward heelflip type and the ollie impossible in it's original form where you compress both kick tails. To be honest,I've never cared in the slightest bit what the industry thinks,considering how old I am it's not as if I'll ever be likely to ever be sponsored in the first place. If someone wants to dis on my skating for using such techniques then that's their choice but it's never gonna make me want to quit doing them,regardless. I say skate however you like,as it's nobody's business but your own,anyway.
Thoughts on Muska? I've always been a huge fan. Had style at a time when style wasn't really a thing. Some people say he was "style over substance" (grinding a handrail while holding a boombox etc) but I disagree. I think his Fulfil The Dream part was good by any standard.
I didn’t like him back in the day, I wouldn’t say I disliked him but I wasn’t blown away. I appreciate him in retrospect. His legs move in these broad slow strokes that are kind of cool.
IMO, and I’m biased because his deck was the first board I ever had, but Kerry Getz had my favorite style of all time. Maybe not terribly complex but his kick flips are glorious. Musks had style for sure I guess I just loved kickflips the most back then too.
PS, skateboarding with a boom box is wayyyy cooler than these Gen Z kids skating at the Olympics with air pods haha. I feel like skateboarding has been whitewashed for the new generation and it makes me miss characters like Muska :)
My .02
Facts with the Tony hawk game not mentioning the pressure flip. I only knew it existed because of the weird moments it came up on the game. Then I looked it up on youtube in 2007 while tryna learn something " lesser known " and seen Tony hawk and Mike Vallelys video, there was also da video about no complys too,
my favourite skate related channel, wish u had more subs, u def. deserve it. Sadly, kids just wanna see some guys playing game of skate on wallmart boards or doing bottle flips. What do you think of people that dont skate wearing Thrasher merch? I know people who didnt skate wore skate brands since ever, but with Thrasher its kinda different i think. The main product is the mag, the clothing is just a merch. It's like wearing shirt with a band u dont even know. I've wondered who made it so cool to wear. I hope its not gonna end like with Supreme.
I talk about that directly in Ask Rad Rat 32
These vidoes are history lessons. Thank you.Important work.I had forgotten the small wheels.ha ha.
This was a good video watched the whole thing pretty entertaining
Damn, Mike V is so 'macho' in that Tony Hawk trick tips video. Kind of ironic, that hes all into' being an outsider, and all like: "doesn't matter what other people say! Just be you!' etc. and then he is all 'anti' pressure flips. But maybe it was just a joke / skit.
I think it's meant to be funny but coming from a place of truth. As cool as Mike V is, he definitely seems like the type of guy to hate on something for no reason.
So this clears up that weird pressure flip that I thought I created in 05, nollie pressure hardflip. Never saw it before and none if the older guys with a decade on me knew what it was. We just called it what it looked like, nollie pressure hardflip. After a while I started messing around with it. Got n p frontside flips, n p hard double flips, n p frontside double flips. Switch p hardflip and frontside flips. The hardest one by far was the nollie pressure 360 frontside flip. That thing had to be popped high and caught early to get the full 360.
the irony behind pressure flips is everybody hates them cause there. actually difficult as f
They arent hard.
At 30 years old i taught myself 4 nollie heelflip variations in one afternoon.
Evan G good for you
They're only hard if you have loose trucks.
@@BigFatCock0 I have tight trucks, I can’t do them. Not sure I tried more than a few days but I skateboarded every day for 4yrs in the early 00s. Maybe people would consider me bad or a poser now, no one seemed to back then. And at the end of the day it was all fun. So idk.
@@stevebean1234 try get comfortable to pop shuvit cus it similar to pop shuv it. Pop straight down.
Some fools went crazy with that trick. Also frontfoot impossibles and dudes going hella slow trying late shuvits off the block, sporting some purposely cutoff at the lower leg goofyboy jeans/pants it wasn't a good look on most. But switch 180s and normal pressureflips were dope back then, depended how u did it or who did that trick though.
I love your research skills, Mr. R.
Ah, the infamous BB#3 editorial... although I still think Dae Won, Guy, Koston and Ternasky played their parts IMHO with their own take on the shape of skating to come back then. Especially Guy's POL montage... 25 years later and still gives me goosebumps -
A comment about the quality - if more had performed theirs like Nate (I think Henry and Carroll came close), perhaps they wouldn't have collapsed like they did.
Another possibility that comes to my mind though, is that a lot of more ollie-flip-based guys (like the above pros which I mentioned) in my community were somewhat blindsided by the popularity of the whole pressure thing: Unlike the late shove-its/flips (which collapsed just as hard), they couldn't seem to get it like the rest of us mere mortals (a lot of whom that couldn't even kickflip over a deck on its side).
The big-kickflip era (or pop-shove-it revival) of the late 92-early 94 period was an attempt to not only bring skating back from the brink of disappearing up its own butt, it was a backlash against those of us who were focusing less on quality, more on quantity, and for at least a few months in 1992, were able to show up the big melon crowd.
I think seeing the pressure flip in the Plan B, Virtual Reality, video, is what made me want to skate even more. That and the split screen. But I never learned or tried a pressure flip. I’m glad you mentioned verial flips. 😆 They were considered super lame to do. So funny. I wish skating could go back to Full Cabs shoes, huge jean shorts, tiny wheels, wallet chains, and pressure flips. Ha-ha. The good old days.
I see them banned in games of skate alot. Ppl get pissed bc they are actually somewhat hard to do or they don't know how to and I think that's why it gets alot of hate now. Mostly bc ppl don't wanna learn it
Keep up the videos man, your channel will explode for sure.
You might need to spice up some of your video titles and thumbnails a little though.
Hope you don't take it the wrong way but I'm still shooting you a sub for sure. Keen to see more.
Working on that. This one in particular was based on the most searched Google term with 'pressure flip' in it.
Yeah, 'Why Are Pressure Flips Hated' is perfect. I'm not too sure about the 'Get the Full Story' inclusion though. As long as you keep it brief yet sharp, you'll see movement in views.
Tags and a good title is truly half the battle. Your content is top tier but you need the audience.
Now I know how I do all flips when fingerskating. Now I understand.
You are super correct sir 90 to 92 were my hardcord skate time and in those times small tec flip tricks were rad its what I did and I was just as cool as anyone I broke my bord out for 6 months when I finally got a new one no liked my skating at all and ya my best tricks which were pressure to noise slides grinds and so on people didn't even like them anymore I got so much criticism and seriously 6 months before people thought I was rad those guys couldn't even do my pressure noise slide but I ended up quitting the next time I broke my bord I just thought by the time I get a new things will be so different I'll get laughed at Really did suck for me
Great commentary on pressure flips.
Hmm thinking about it what is the difference between 360 flips/pressure and hardflips/pressure?
Is it all in the pop or scoop? Trey flips are pretty much all scoop
popping and flipping is done by your back foot. flipping here is mostly a scoop motion
I can pressure toe flip. They aren’t consistent yet, so I’m not gonna use them in games of skate yet