Nate, I've always admired that you took that trick so far. I actually liked to do them out of banks 270 to darkslide. One thing people don't really get is that pressure flips don't require huge amounts of scraping, and you can pop them so that they work sort of like a late back-foot flip, and off banks you can get them really high. Anyway, I've always loved your style. Good going and props for doing what you like to do rather than what people expect.
skating is like that.. its all for fun secretly hidden by a facade.. look at that new spitfire part on thrasher. the dude looks like he's irritated for landing huge tricks..
I dont skate anymore as my knees have given out,I was in my teens when huge jeans,cut down shoes,tiny wheels and mad flip tricks and I know that time is hated but at the time I loved it,not everyone skated super slow and some of those tricks done fast and with style looked great,plus the board graphics at time were insane,I miss those days😢😢😢
I am a teen and maybe you know how to save your knees? What did you do wrong that your knees have given out... I just read a lot of stories where people destroy their knees somehow and there are prople who skate imsane gaps like everyday and they are in their 30 maybe 40 still skate like normal.
@@dovydas4483 Do leg exercises to strengthen the muscles around your knees. Squats, lunges, chair pose, etc. Also, as you get older you need to stretch and warm up way more. Look up Knees Over Toes Guy on TH-cam. He's got good exercises to make your knees invincible.
Almost 9 minutes into this video and I realized you are aronl ! Dude I learned most of what I know watching your old trick tips. You evolved with the times still making killer quality and putting your great explanation into it. You're an inspiration
I was also stoked you reached out to Nate for this video. I know him personally as he opened Eduskate, the local skate shop in Cedar Rapids. He can go on about skateboarding forever, very knowledgable guy. Keep up the good work i have some catching up to do.
Ditto. There's nothing like the floating feeling of launching a high pressure flip up a sidewalk slope. Flick tricks are fine but flipping without flicking is a unique feeling.
It can be, but the ones who last are the ones who are just happy to be doing it and are happy to see others having fun with it too. You do you, boo boo.
Rebelliousness become Pretentiousness as you get older. But it’s a good thing in the end. Being pretentious is what makes the next generation rebel and try their own thing. Don’t like these assholes? Go show them how to make a pressure flip look good then :P
Never had such a cerebral breakdown about a specific trick before. A well spent 15 minutes for sure. Have to go through all of your videos now. Very well done sir.
Dude I thought you looked familiar, I used to watch your how to videos YEARS ago! It's awesome to see that you are still around in the skate community!
I can buy that Fissel invented (or at least popularized) them. I remember Ed Templeton being the first I saw doing them in 91 in HB and we all had to learn them after that. Took me probably 6-9 months to get down. I almost knocked myself out doing a 360 pf down a 3 stair, but stuck to other variations like fakie pf body varial (which I have footage of me last doing. That's how influential the trick was). Only thing I hated about the trick is it would ruin your board shape from all the scooping, I always did them on my nose to avoid screwing up my tail. Nice vid!
No way...just the other day I was trying to find the 'how to' skate videos I used to watch years ago that had the wood box in the drive way..totally caught me off guard when I saw the familiar footage in this video then it totally blew me away when I realized it was you! This is the greatest thing ever. Found this channel about a month ago, much respect I'm learning all the things I never knew how to ask now lol
Hey Aron, for me the returned interest in pressure flips came with Eric Koston doing them in Battle at the Berrics. I am unsure if this has had major impact, but in our little skatecommunity every trick from BatB was one worth trying. Anyway, keep up the work, this is great content!
I'm new to skateboarding, but pressure flips were a set of tricks that I always found cool and fascinating since they seemed so different and unique to me (granted my limited knowledge). I think the fact they're so hated is what motivates me to learn them even more lol
Provided they're done smooth and with good height - a lot of pressure flip variations look dope, and I've always dug them.. Mullen Parts always had them in em, and I always thought Mullen was the s*** - I still do...
holy shit lmao, when you showed your old skate tutorial I realized that I watched those way back in the day when you were uploading them. I actually tied to find the channel a while back to see if it was still up, I just got hella nostalgia.
Love this channel. I'm not really a "skater", but I've always followed skating. I'm just not very athletic. I've got very good balance and coordination, but no jump and speed. Anyway, I hope to get back to skating soon, as soon as this quarantine crap is over. But I'd like to say keep up the excellent videos. I always learn something.
9:50 this is so true! always on hindsight things look different. Back then it was pretty cool. Now a Haslam or Cole comes alone starts having fun with those and they are back in!
I completely agree with the point on the tony hawks games, I think the influence of the games on actual skateboarding is very underestimated. Good job as usual sir!
I was 10 when I started to skate and got my first real board. I learned pressure flips and I still do them today. Every time the kids in the neighborhood come by with a board and see me skate they think they are cool. I've seen similar stuff happen in BMX. It all comes around and if you stick with what you like you will make yourself happy.
your channel and content is so sick, skateboarding is so beautiful and so nuanced and weird and interesting and there's so much interesting things about the tricks and the culture and why it is the way it is and I love that you take advantage of it
I was skating back in this time. I started skating in 1989. I wasn't sponsored, but I had a fairly decent bag of tricks and didn't suck at a local session. I was totally roped into the ultra tech trend as a 12-14 year old kid, but the older kids I skated with completely hated it. History repeats itself. It was such a strange time for skating, which is hard to imagine unless you were there. Literally everything changed in the span of 2-3 years. Boards went from transition-oriented fish shapes with small noses to a period of crazy iterations of "double kick" and extra long noses (some boards had 8" long noses) until the dust settled into what modern kids would recognize as a modern board. Skate videos went from polished movies to shaky mom-cam footage pretty much overnight. This happened in the span of a couple years. The change happened so fast that you needed to relearn all your tricks on a completely different shape, weight and geometry. If you relied on your parents to buy you a board 2-3 times a year, what you were skating was barely related to what you were buying aside from being made of wood. The reason I hate/love pressure flips is because I was really good at impossibles in 1990-1991 and the next year impossibles were kinda passe and pressure flips were red hot. Impossibles and pressure flips are somewhat related, and I worked so hard to unlearn a full impossible scoop that it fell out of my muscle memory. I have mom-filmed footage of impossibles down a three set across from my house and they were so proper for such a small kid. I was even doing a bigspin version that was 540-ish looking. Boards at the time were transitioning from a square or fish tail shape into the popsicle/football, and I never got my impossibles back. I never relearned how to bite the tail into the ground and get a full wrap. I can still do pressure flips now and easily get a letter on almost anyone in the park that wants to goof around with a game of SKATE, but my impossibles are gone. (I get caught on 360 flips 95% of the time. I just can't do that trick. The young kids make it look effortless) If I could go back I would never learn pressure flips, because a properly scooped impossible just felt so good and powerful.
I learned pressure flips perfectly in the early 90's. I was so excited, I did them constantly. I swear, they went out of style like two weeks later. I didn't care, I kept doing them.
Those were my thing back in the 90s. I was one of the first in my group of friends to learn them and the different variations along with underflips, late flips, late shoves, and half Casper tricks. Most folks back then were just into stair gaps and big ollie tricks, I liked the more technical stuff. Sucks they got a bad rep, they look hella cool if you can land them clean and consistently. The only flips I really didn’t care for were heel flips...specifically inward heels because those caused me to eat it more than any other due to the board either under rotating or not flipping all the way and landing in primo.
Yooo I've been watching your videos for a few days now. I learned how to skate using some of your videos way back in the day!! I used to watch them all the time. That was like 10 years ago man, that's insane, I can't believe that's you. Small world. Good to see you again on here!
I learned them in the 90's and still do them today. If you pop them they look similar to hardflips. I don't catch hate when I do them. I do pressure flip blunt to fakies on small transitions and people always wonder what hell hell I just rolled away from.
I can hardly differentiate any pressure flip from other standard flips. Pressure 360 or pressure hardflip or pressure impossible all look the same as their non pressure counterparts
Same. This is the first time I read about pressure flip hate. Rodney Mullen’s part with pressure flips and late flips was mind blowing to me as a kid, I loved it. I skateboarded for a long time in the early 00s and no one I know of considered me a poser… the pressure flip, varial kick flip, and mall grab hate is completely new to me. I don’t think it existed at all in NY where I was from at the time.
I knew that youre gonna include Nate sherwood inside. That's the reason why I subscribed to him. Personally, i like pressure flips. They have its uniqueness and skills to it cause i was amazed on how much flip and rotation you can get from the back of your foot. I remembered one time, i was so inspired by one of nate's videos that i would try to do one but i didnt get it cause it was too hard.
I had a monster pressure hardflip back in the day. that and v-flips were my only super consistent lands. I love watching people with nice pressure runs, but as a whole it really wasn't my jam.
Mike Carroll does a pressure flip over a picnic table in 2007 fully flared. Check it out. I remember rewinding the tape several times surprised to see him do it.
ive done an amazing pressure flip before. its the only time I ever caught one and it was like a front foot catch on a hard flip. I'm about to learn these again tbh
Great video, I think any trick that blows up, and becomes common placed will end up being hated. Just look at no complies, they've been everywhere, but now people are beginning to mock the trick. It's just a natural cycle in skating.
I think pressure flip variations are awesome. I loved them because they were different and nobody does them around me. I learned nollie pressure hardlips and switch pressure flips a few years ago, but forgot how to do those. I'd get the most confused looks from people when I did them, so much so that if I did them in a game of S.K.A.T.E. people would have me repeat them two or three times to make sure they weren't a total accident.
Still doing them, almost on every session. I somehow have always liked pressure flips and lately I've also felt them being great warm-up tricks (yeah, I'm not young anymore :) ). Same goes with fakie big spin, I somehow really like it and use it as a warm-up trick. But the one thing I hate about pressure flip is how, on especially a rougher terrain, it makes the side of your nose/tail a razor blade pretty fast.
I learned my nollie pressure hardflips by accident trying to learn nollie kickflips when I popped the nose under itself once, and with a little tuning got them to land (jumping back blind like fs pop shuvits) and mine I was always able to get them up and get a snappy catch at fair height, I always had compliments for it and nobody hated on them where I live.
I love it. It gives my opponent a letter in every game of skate! it’s my staple flip trick and I do it more frequently than kickflips. it was also my key to landing my first impossible. it’s a key to a lot of tricks lmao
I also don’t really get how a 360 flip is much different than a pressure flip. I haven’t landed one yet but I’m extremely close. I don’t have to do anything at all with my front foot. Just scoop my back foot and it goes. How’s that any different from a pressure flip I guess? One is a staple of skateboarding and one is hated (I guess, it was news to me ppl hated them)
@@stevebean1234 I couldn’t really land a tre flip it always ends up in a 3shuv. I could land varial flips but not tre’s tho. maybe pressure flips were hated because they find it difficult to figure out and they think it’s not worth learning because in reality, pressure flips look awkward. inward heels look awkward too. thlse two rotate the same. only some people can make them look good. they look like shuvits if you’re not really paying attention. and it’s a snake when it comes to game of skates, trust me. on the other hand, treflips look cool because you could really see it flipping and spinning mid air (either fast or slow) and it looks like you just gained control of a helicopter that was wilding mid air whenever you land it lmao. I don’t know if that made sense but that’s how I thought of it.
When i learned my pressure flips i did em like my pop shuvits with the same pop and the same stance ( no ground sweepers) :). Sometimes i did pressure flips when i was supposed to do my pop shuvits. What I love to do is in a game of skate to pull out a pressure flip and watch the opponents drop their jaws to the ground and if there are someone who knows how to do em just do it with a body varial :) :) :)
A semi friend from high school is a professional skateboarder and I remember he would always get really annoyed when someone brought up Rodney mullen in his presence. I can distinctly remember him telling me "all he does are pressure flips." I didn't know what he was talking about or why he cared. Looking back on it I think he just didn't like a freestyle skater being more popular than a street skater.
Holy shit 360 inward heels in the early 90s! When i learned them back in 03-04 i didnt know or see anyone who did them but i would have had i consumed more videos and mags!! Very cool info!!!
Let me put it in context. 5 years late. I started in 87. From 90 to probably 93 Street skating evolved so quickly, tricks and their variations were invented, perfected and taken to ledges, stairs etc. In 93 skating kind of reached a point where pro skaters who had pop and kept it relatively simple were getting popular, such as j Wray, markovich, salman agah. Pro skaters and everyone else got choosy about what tricks they did. It wasn't just presure flips that got dropped by most people. Tricks such as impossibles, even front foot Impossibles, late shoves, late flips, late back foot flips. All came in from 91, but 2 years later were rarely seen. So the skaters in videos from mid to late 90s were doing classic, more aesthetically pleasing tricks. Speed, pop, and style were everything. Many of them could do the crazy early 90s tricks, but chose not too. I remember coz I was good at the tricks that became 'unfashionable', so was a bit sad that I wasn't doing a proper impossible, or Nollie back foot Impossibles. It probably sounds crazy by modern standards, but skating was getting to end of development, and finding its way, it was a more enclosed sport then, with info, development moving slower than today's Internet age. If I could do it all over again, I would do all the tricks, as skaters seem to do today.
That small mention of Chris fissels. "Possibly first 360 inward heel" was that before or after the one in "the ACME skateboard video(1992)" some guy did? Also it almost looked like a back foot Tre how wild it was haha
I absolutely love pressure flips, and I don't know why. I just think they look cool. EDIT: Just to add, Dario Juhasz has done some pressure flips, and he pops (pressures?) them super high. Did one down some stairs in one of Jonny Giger's videos, and it looked amazing.
I love them too.... but they have to be popped high and vertical. I can see why people don't like them, they do look a bit weird when they just flop around about 2 inches off the ground.
Also little kids do a lot of pressure flips because their boards are relatively larger so they can get the flip easier, as well as pop and flick take more effort
*The trick name of “Full cab” is Caballerial. Maybe you can do another video on tricks that have multiple names or how kickflip was first called magic flip.
@@BigFatCock0 I have tight trucks, I can’t do them. Not sure I tried more than a few days but I skateboarded every day for 4yrs in the early 00s. Maybe people would consider me bad or a poser now, no one seemed to back then. And at the end of the day it was all fun. So idk.
For us it was two things- A lack of influential examples of pressure flips looking good (at the time). No enders or ads, etc. Yours in this video are literally some of the best looking ones I've ever seen. Second thing is that guys who did pressure flips that we knew couldn't (or wouldn't) do any of the standard tricks that were around the same tier, like bs & fs flips, 360s, etc. They'd also be the guy trying and missing impossibles instead of tres. Contrarian tricks
The guy sat in the background watching P J Ladd, wearing a burgundy t-shirt, during the toe flip stuff is my old neighbour when I lived in Sweden a few years back. A guy from Venezuela called Odla Arteaga.
awesome videos! question idea for your next ask rad rat. Are rails for your board on a comeback? ive been seeing them more and more lately. thanks for making such great content!
I've never met someone that could do pressure flips actually hate pressure flips. They're fun though because it's such a gnarly trick to be able to pop waist high on flat ground.
Freestyle skaters were doing a version of kickflips called the pressure flip back in the 70s. You need to look for old Russ Howell and Chris Strople footage if it is available
My thoughts. Small wheels had a part in this and the boards were really flat vs 89-91ish decks and the H-street heel concave days. It was actually really hard to pop trick. If you look back only a few guys really had a lot of pop during this phase. Personally I hated the small wheels and giant pants days so much I walked away from skating at the time and started back again years later. I still don't like video parts from that era. Gotta admit though I still like late shoves!
I think a Soldier's Story was the first video where I saw them on big boards... but Sheffey kinda stole half the show with his confidence, and Donger took the other with his pop. 1281 was the next one I remember, and the first one where they were impossible to ignore, and Ron Knigge was probably my favorite section out of that whole bunch. For us up north, that was late 91/early 92. Of course, the cool kids caught on last, and were the first to ditch when Pack of Lies came out (Sanchez did one switch pf down some stairs and that was it). I also remember an interview where Mullen remembers seeing some German freestyler do a triple pf in 1983... I also remember a time when people would set-up for ollie impossibles by putting their front foot on the nose. At one point, they were derisively called "pressure impossibles" by at least my circle, but that's neither here-nor-there...
Your clips of Fissel have jogged my memory (yeah, he pretty much had the most variations; he certainly has the repertoire of an early adopter), but for his section (for me, at least), the standouts were that actual inward heelflip, and that (what I like to call a) Sal hardflip. Damn, I'm going to check his section again, thanks! :)
Hmm thinking about it what is the difference between 360 flips/pressure and hardflips/pressure? Is it all in the pop or scoop? Trey flips are pretty much all scoop
Heck,I still do pressure flips from time to time,at least the inward heelflip type and the ollie impossible in it's original form where you compress both kick tails. To be honest,I've never cared in the slightest bit what the industry thinks,considering how old I am it's not as if I'll ever be likely to ever be sponsored in the first place. If someone wants to dis on my skating for using such techniques then that's their choice but it's never gonna make me want to quit doing them,regardless. I say skate however you like,as it's nobody's business but your own,anyway.
i could never do frontside flips but i could do switch frontside 180 pressure flips and flip them so it looked like i did a switch hardflip and turned my body or like it was a switch frontside flip
You had a proper pop on your pressure flip back in the day! I did them when I started skating in the early 90s and they kind of just faded away in videos so we stopped doing them. The only time I remember making fun of them was years later when the "hard flippers" were clearly pressure flipping but acting like they were doing some insanely hard trick....I love Muska, but to my eyes a lot of his frontside flips had nothing to do with his front foot and were just frontside pressure flips
How is a 360 flip any different than a pressure flip these days ? Most ppl I see do 360 flips don’t do anything with the front foot at all. Very often the trick hugs the ground too. Anyway, the pressure flip hate is completely new to me even though I picked up a skateboard for the first time 18 years ago. I don’t understand how ppl hate them bc in retrospect I’ve seen tons of cool things I’d classify as pressure flips
i'm exhausted and super happy! I didnt skated for a while and i wanted to stop skating. I've skated about 2hours and a half in two days and i've progressed soooo much! i can ollie very well (compared to 8 months ago,because i was doing ollie in grass) and i can even pop while rolling and doing little ollies while rolling!
Everybody did pressure flips because the decks were flat when the flat ground Ollie came to be. No concave and nearly flat tail hampered most people's ability to pop. As we came into the 90's tails got steeper, they added concave and noses. My Ollie double in height. Every move we knew suddenly got reclassified, like pop shuvit. It was the era of bad Ollies.
Hey rat I have a question. I skated in the 90s mainly girl and world boards. Imm 44 now and can still skate. I'm looking for a board mainly to ollie. Everything is much bigger now. Any tips on a board brand with decent pop for ollies?
I see them banned in games of skate alot. Ppl get pissed bc they are actually somewhat hard to do or they don't know how to and I think that's why it gets alot of hate now. Mostly bc ppl don't wanna learn it
So this clears up that weird pressure flip that I thought I created in 05, nollie pressure hardflip. Never saw it before and none if the older guys with a decade on me knew what it was. We just called it what it looked like, nollie pressure hardflip. After a while I started messing around with it. Got n p frontside flips, n p hard double flips, n p frontside double flips. Switch p hardflip and frontside flips. The hardest one by far was the nollie pressure 360 frontside flip. That thing had to be popped high and caught early to get the full 360.
dude you are brillant sir. I am honored. thank You for the kind words and respect. So kool you are a gentelmen and a Scholor ....
Thanks Nate!
no prob u rock bro an are my new hero. :)huge respect sir
Rad Rat Video mr rat do u think rodney mullen couldve won the berrics
Nate, I've always admired that you took that trick so far. I actually liked to do them out of banks 270 to darkslide. One thing people don't really get is that pressure flips don't require huge amounts of scraping, and you can pop them so that they work sort of like a late back-foot flip, and off banks you can get them really high. Anyway, I've always loved your style. Good going and props for doing what you like to do rather than what people expect.
thanks brother i am deeply honored dude , so kool ur dark slide combo sounds epic. if u r ever in iowa lets go shred.
Im just gonna leave this here as a Bus Stop for my Acid Trip right now. Thank you so much Rad Rat!
I just don't get y people hate on tricks lol it's all for fun
hate is just part of skateboarding culture
Cuz they can't land them 👀
skating is like that.. its all for fun secretly hidden by a facade.. look at that new spitfire part on thrasher. the dude looks like he's irritated for landing huge tricks..
Hating creates a cheap imitation of personality
Sound like they prefer hating over skating.
Bums me out that any kid can learn pressure flips in an afternoon. Been trying them for years and still can't land one.
dont even waste time on'em. pop and flick with grace and power
I hung my head in shame on that line too :( I spent months on varial kickflips!
Christopher Rowe quiero todo en espanl
This is nonsense, I know 100's of good skaters who cant do them
07 grimdrummer its easier when your trucks are tight. Like any other trick..
I dont skate anymore as my knees have given out,I was in my teens when huge jeans,cut down shoes,tiny wheels and mad flip tricks and I know that time is hated but at the time I loved it,not everyone skated super slow and some of those tricks done fast and with style looked great,plus the board graphics at time were insane,I miss those days😢😢😢
I am a teen and maybe you know how to save your knees? What did you do wrong that your knees have given out... I just read a lot of stories where people destroy their knees somehow and there are prople who skate imsane gaps like everyday and they are in their 30 maybe 40 still skate like normal.
@@dovydas4483 Do leg exercises to strengthen the muscles around your knees. Squats, lunges, chair pose, etc. Also, as you get older you need to stretch and warm up way more.
Look up Knees Over Toes Guy on TH-cam. He's got good exercises to make your knees invincible.
Get good shoes and don’t bail lol
Almost 9 minutes into this video and I realized you are aronl ! Dude I learned most of what I know watching your old trick tips. You evolved with the times still making killer quality and putting your great explanation into it. You're an inspiration
+SkateIslam yep that's me! Thanks for the kind words
I was also stoked you reached out to Nate for this video. I know him personally as he opened Eduskate, the local skate shop in Cedar Rapids. He can go on about skateboarding forever, very knowledgable guy. Keep up the good work i have some catching up to do.
+SkateIslam it was cool, but his info wasn't quite right.. Check the update video
man i shot;ld have had more time life is a pinch in here . i need to quit my job to study as hard as u guys do. lol
i would like to know where i was wrong?
dude you are a living breathing skateboarding encyclopedia. iv'e just started watching your channel recently. good shit.
nate is my local skateshop owner and good buddy. very good man and amazing to know on a personal level. amazing human being
:)
@@natepressureflipsherwood wow soo cool seeing you here
@@justmetal227 thanks 4 the kind words bro.
@@natepressureflipsherwood you're awesome man!
I skated in '92. I can still pressure flip.
Ditto. There's nothing like the floating feeling of launching a high pressure flip up a sidewalk slope. Flick tricks are fine but flipping without flicking is a unique feeling.
@@rkulla They look so cool to me, it's like it takes no effort but in a good way.
erik ellington's pressure flip over that gap in longbeach was sweet
Ellington makes anything look good
antwan dixion does a nice popped one on his insta clips on yt
VLSkate Fuck yeah, it was.
just started skating. didnt realise skating world is so pretentious
I'm in the same boat.
the people that think things should be done a certain way are the real posers.
It can be, but the ones who last are the ones who are just happy to be doing it and are happy to see others having fun with it too. You do you, boo boo.
Rebelliousness become Pretentiousness as you get older. But it’s a good thing in the end. Being pretentious is what makes the next generation rebel and try their own thing. Don’t like these assholes? Go show them how to make a pressure flip look good then :P
@@fatass4985 This dude gets it. Skate for you, and to hell with everybody else who acts pretentious.
You're creating an amazing content, for real. Thanks. Love to know about all these topics
Thank you!
Never had such a cerebral breakdown about a specific trick before. A well spent 15 minutes for sure. Have to go through all of your videos now. Very well done sir.
Dude I thought you looked familiar, I used to watch your how to videos YEARS ago! It's awesome to see that you are still around in the skate community!
do a video on varial kickfilps
I can buy that Fissel invented (or at least popularized) them. I remember Ed Templeton being the first I saw doing them in 91 in HB and we all had to learn them after that. Took me probably 6-9 months to get down. I almost knocked myself out doing a 360 pf down a 3 stair, but stuck to other variations like fakie pf body varial (which I have footage of me last doing. That's how influential the trick was). Only thing I hated about the trick is it would ruin your board shape from all the scooping, I always did them on my nose to avoid screwing up my tail. Nice vid!
Cool story. Glad someone is admitting to them taking a while, lots of people saying they learned them in an afternoon
No way...just the other day I was trying to find the 'how to' skate videos I used to watch years ago that had the wood box in the drive way..totally caught me off guard when I saw the familiar footage in this video then it totally blew me away when I realized it was you! This is the greatest thing ever. Found this channel about a month ago, much respect I'm learning all the things I never knew how to ask now lol
You predicted the future, pressure flips are cool again.
p flips 4 life :)
big naaattteeeeeeee, the king of street
Pressure flips and that era are the best things could happen to skateboarding!!!
Hey Aron, for me the returned interest in pressure flips came with Eric Koston doing them in Battle at the Berrics. I am unsure if this has had major impact, but in our little skatecommunity every trick from BatB was one worth trying. Anyway, keep up the work, this is great content!
Dude this is probably one of the best skate-related anythings on the Internet. PLEASE keep this up
I'm new to skateboarding, but pressure flips were a set of tricks that I always found cool and fascinating since they seemed so different and unique to me (granted my limited knowledge). I think the fact they're so hated is what motivates me to learn them even more lol
Provided they're done smooth and with good height - a lot of pressure flip variations look dope, and I've always dug them..
Mullen Parts always had them in em, and I always thought Mullen was the s*** - I still do...
holy shit lmao, when you showed your old skate tutorial I realized that I watched those way back in the day when you were uploading them. I actually tied to find the channel a while back to see if it was still up, I just got hella nostalgia.
Love this channel. I'm not really a "skater", but I've always followed skating. I'm just not very athletic. I've got very good balance and coordination, but no jump and speed. Anyway, I hope to get back to skating soon, as soon as this quarantine crap is over. But I'd like to say keep up the excellent videos. I always learn something.
9:50 this is so true! always on hindsight things look different. Back then it was pretty cool. Now a Haslam or Cole comes alone starts having fun with those and they are back in!
I completely agree with the point on the tony hawks games, I think the influence of the games on actual skateboarding is very underestimated.
Good job as usual sir!
Thank you!
I was 10 when I started to skate and got my first real board. I learned pressure flips and I still do them today. Every time the kids in the neighborhood come by with a board and see me skate they think they are cool. I've seen similar stuff happen in BMX. It all comes around and if you stick with what you like you will make yourself happy.
your channel and content is so sick, skateboarding is so beautiful and so nuanced and weird and interesting and there's so much interesting things about the tricks and the culture and why it is the way it is and I love that you take advantage of it
fantastic video man! I've been wondering about this topic for a while, perfect timing
I was skating back in this time. I started skating in 1989. I wasn't sponsored, but I had a fairly decent bag of tricks and didn't suck at a local session. I was totally roped into the ultra tech trend as a 12-14 year old kid, but the older kids I skated with completely hated it. History repeats itself. It was such a strange time for skating, which is hard to imagine unless you were there. Literally everything changed in the span of 2-3 years. Boards went from transition-oriented fish shapes with small noses to a period of crazy iterations of "double kick" and extra long noses (some boards had 8" long noses) until the dust settled into what modern kids would recognize as a modern board. Skate videos went from polished movies to shaky mom-cam footage pretty much overnight. This happened in the span of a couple years. The change happened so fast that you needed to relearn all your tricks on a completely different shape, weight and geometry. If you relied on your parents to buy you a board 2-3 times a year, what you were skating was barely related to what you were buying aside from being made of wood.
The reason I hate/love pressure flips is because I was really good at impossibles in 1990-1991 and the next year impossibles were kinda passe and pressure flips were red hot. Impossibles and pressure flips are somewhat related, and I worked so hard to unlearn a full impossible scoop that it fell out of my muscle memory. I have mom-filmed footage of impossibles down a three set across from my house and they were so proper for such a small kid. I was even doing a bigspin version that was 540-ish looking. Boards at the time were transitioning from a square or fish tail shape into the popsicle/football, and I never got my impossibles back. I never relearned how to bite the tail into the ground and get a full wrap. I can still do pressure flips now and easily get a letter on almost anyone in the park that wants to goof around with a game of SKATE, but my impossibles are gone. (I get caught on 360 flips 95% of the time. I just can't do that trick. The young kids make it look effortless) If I could go back I would never learn pressure flips, because a properly scooped impossible just felt so good and powerful.
The pressure flip was one of the only flip tricks I could do back in the early nineties. I loved 'em. They did wear out your tail though.
I learned pressure flips perfectly in the early 90's. I was so excited, I did them constantly. I swear, they went out of style like two weeks later. I didn't care, I kept doing them.
bassage13 they look so steezy tho but so late
Glad it was a longer video 😊 best video
Those were my thing back in the 90s. I was one of the first in my group of friends to learn them and the different variations along with underflips, late flips, late shoves, and half Casper tricks. Most folks back then were just into stair gaps and big ollie tricks, I liked the more technical stuff. Sucks they got a bad rep, they look hella cool if you can land them clean and consistently. The only flips I really didn’t care for were heel flips...specifically inward heels because those caused me to eat it more than any other due to the board either under rotating or not flipping all the way and landing in primo.
So stoked to see you making new content again. Definitely resubscribed. Cool to see a different type of skater still shredding it.
Ppl hate tricks they can't do, can't do well, or it got them a letter in skate, any trick can be made to look awesome
Yooo I've been watching your videos for a few days now. I learned how to skate using some of your videos way back in the day!! I used to watch them all the time. That was like 10 years ago man, that's insane, I can't believe that's you. Small world. Good to see you again on here!
I learned them in the 90's and still do them today. If you pop them they look similar to hardflips.
I don't catch hate when I do them. I do pressure flip blunt to fakies on small transitions and people always wonder what hell hell I just rolled away from.
I can hardly differentiate any pressure flip from other standard flips. Pressure 360 or pressure hardflip or pressure impossible all look the same as their non pressure counterparts
Same. This is the first time I read about pressure flip hate. Rodney Mullen’s part with pressure flips and late flips was mind blowing to me as a kid, I loved it.
I skateboarded for a long time in the early 00s and no one I know of considered me a poser… the pressure flip, varial kick flip, and mall grab hate is completely new to me. I don’t think it existed at all in NY where I was from at the time.
I knew that youre gonna include Nate sherwood inside. That's the reason why I subscribed to him. Personally, i like pressure flips. They have its uniqueness and skills to it cause i was amazed on how much flip and rotation you can get from the back of your foot. I remembered one time, i was so inspired by one of nate's videos that i would try to do one but i didnt get it cause it was too hard.
There's no way I could talk about them without him! He's the king
thanks dude
I had a monster pressure hardflip back in the day. that and v-flips were my only super consistent lands. I love watching people with nice pressure runs, but as a whole it really wasn't my jam.
Mike Carroll does a pressure flip over a picnic table in 2007 fully flared. Check it out. I remember rewinding the tape several times surprised to see him do it.
ive done an amazing pressure flip before. its the only time I ever caught one and it was like a front foot catch on a hard flip. I'm about to learn these again tbh
Great video, I think any trick that blows up, and becomes common placed will end up being hated. Just look at no complies, they've been everywhere, but now people are beginning to mock the trick. It's just a natural cycle in skating.
I think pressure flip variations are awesome. I loved them because they were different and nobody does them around me. I learned nollie pressure hardlips and switch pressure flips a few years ago, but forgot how to do those. I'd get the most confused looks from people when I did them, so much so that if I did them in a game of S.K.A.T.E. people would have me repeat them two or three times to make sure they weren't a total accident.
Looking forward to going out and practicing my pressure flips when this storm goes away...
Because people can’t do them. Any hate you see from anyone in the skateboard world comes from inability or ineptitude.
Still doing them, almost on every session. I somehow have always liked pressure flips and lately I've also felt them being great warm-up tricks (yeah, I'm not young anymore :) ). Same goes with fakie big spin, I somehow really like it and use it as a warm-up trick. But the one thing I hate about pressure flip is how, on especially a rougher terrain, it makes the side of your nose/tail a razor blade pretty fast.
Fantastic!!!
Really REALLY enjoying these videos :) Keep this awesome content coming my brother!
I learned my nollie pressure hardflips by accident trying to learn nollie kickflips when I popped the nose under itself once, and with a little tuning got them to land (jumping back blind like fs pop shuvits) and mine I was always able to get them up and get a snappy catch at fair height, I always had compliments for it and nobody hated on them where I live.
Henry Sanchez also did a pressure flip in his sight unseen part. With Style! Respect for your quality content!
Nice work! Long or short, your content is always great!
Thank you very much!
Now I know how I do all flips when fingerskating. Now I understand.
Its like there's aronl the guy who explained trick tips pretty well and this is Aronl 2.0 with spot on analysis and interesting commentary! I like it.
I was there when that clip at 6:40 was filmed. Interskate 91 in Massachusetts.
I love it. It gives my opponent a letter in every game of skate! it’s my staple flip trick and I do it more frequently than kickflips. it was also my key to landing my first impossible. it’s a key to a lot of tricks lmao
I also don’t really get how a 360 flip is much different than a pressure flip. I haven’t landed one yet but I’m extremely close. I don’t have to do anything at all with my front foot. Just scoop my back foot and it goes. How’s that any different from a pressure flip I guess? One is a staple of skateboarding and one is hated (I guess, it was news to me ppl hated them)
@@stevebean1234 I couldn’t really land a tre flip it always ends up in a 3shuv. I could land varial flips but not tre’s tho. maybe pressure flips were hated because they find it difficult to figure out and they think it’s not worth learning because in reality, pressure flips look awkward. inward heels look awkward too. thlse two rotate the same. only some people can make them look good. they look like shuvits if you’re not really paying attention. and it’s a snake when it comes to game of skates, trust me. on the other hand, treflips look cool because you could really see it flipping and spinning mid air (either fast or slow) and it looks like you just gained control of a helicopter that was wilding mid air whenever you land it lmao. I don’t know if that made sense but that’s how I thought of it.
When i learned my pressure flips i did em like my pop shuvits with the same pop and the same stance ( no ground sweepers) :). Sometimes i did pressure flips when i was supposed to do my pop shuvits. What I love to do is in a game of skate to pull out a pressure flip and watch the opponents drop their jaws to the ground and if there are someone who knows how to do em just do it with a body varial :) :) :)
A semi friend from high school is a professional skateboarder and I remember he would always get really annoyed when someone brought up Rodney mullen in his presence. I can distinctly remember him telling me "all he does are pressure flips." I didn't know what he was talking about or why he cared. Looking back on it I think he just didn't like a freestyle skater being more popular than a street skater.
Holy shit 360 inward heels in the early 90s! When i learned them back in 03-04 i didnt know or see anyone who did them but i would have had i consumed more videos and mags!! Very cool info!!!
Let me put it in context. 5 years late. I started in 87. From 90 to probably 93 Street skating evolved so quickly, tricks and their variations were invented, perfected and taken to ledges, stairs etc. In 93 skating kind of reached a point where pro skaters who had pop and kept it relatively simple were getting popular, such as j Wray, markovich, salman agah. Pro skaters and everyone else got choosy about what tricks they did. It wasn't just presure flips that got dropped by most people. Tricks such as impossibles, even front foot Impossibles, late shoves, late flips, late back foot flips. All came in from 91, but 2 years later were rarely seen. So the skaters in videos from mid to late 90s were doing classic, more aesthetically pleasing tricks. Speed, pop, and style were everything. Many of them could do the crazy early 90s tricks, but chose not too. I remember coz I was good at the tricks that became 'unfashionable', so was a bit sad that I wasn't doing a proper impossible, or Nollie back foot Impossibles. It probably sounds crazy by modern standards, but skating was getting to end of development, and finding its way, it was a more enclosed sport then, with info, development moving slower than today's Internet age. If I could do it all over again, I would do all the tricks, as skaters seem to do today.
That small mention of Chris fissels. "Possibly first 360 inward heel" was that before or after the one in "the ACME skateboard video(1992)" some guy did? Also it almost looked like a back foot Tre how wild it was haha
I can’t even Ollie, but your videos are still fun to watch
These vidoes are history lessons. Thank you.Important work.I had forgotten the small wheels.ha ha.
Everyone hates on it until someone famous comes and makes new variations and innovates and becomes a trend again.
I absolutely love pressure flips, and I don't know why. I just think they look cool.
EDIT: Just to add, Dario Juhasz has done some pressure flips, and he pops (pressures?) them super high. Did one down some stairs in one of Jonny Giger's videos, and it looked amazing.
Dario is king
That's true.
I love them too....
but they have to be popped high and vertical. I can see why people don't like them, they do look a bit weird when they just flop around about 2 inches off the ground.
Shaun E Yeah, that's true.
always high quality videos! love these!
Also little kids do a lot of pressure flips because their boards are relatively larger so they can get the flip easier, as well as pop and flick take more effort
Dude I was born in 1991 I do pressure flips all day bro
*The trick name of “Full cab” is Caballerial. Maybe you can do another video on tricks that have multiple names or how kickflip was first called magic flip.
Wow, it's here! Finally ^^
Thx for that and special thx for a 15-min-lenght!
* popcorn *
I respect Vallely’s contributions to skateboarding, but he has no room to hate on any tricks
You're like a Skate Historian! Incredible content as always
thanks for the great content man!
the irony behind pressure flips is everybody hates them cause there. actually difficult as f
They arent hard.
At 30 years old i taught myself 4 nollie heelflip variations in one afternoon.
Evan G good for you
They're only hard if you have loose trucks.
@@BigFatCock0 I have tight trucks, I can’t do them. Not sure I tried more than a few days but I skateboarded every day for 4yrs in the early 00s. Maybe people would consider me bad or a poser now, no one seemed to back then. And at the end of the day it was all fun. So idk.
@@stevebean1234 try get comfortable to pop shuvit cus it similar to pop shuv it. Pop straight down.
For us it was two things-
A lack of influential examples of pressure flips looking good (at the time). No enders or ads, etc. Yours in this video are literally some of the best looking ones I've ever seen.
Second thing is that guys who did pressure flips that we knew couldn't (or wouldn't) do any of the standard tricks that were around the same tier, like bs & fs flips, 360s, etc. They'd also be the guy trying and missing impossibles instead of tres. Contrarian tricks
The guy sat in the background watching P J Ladd, wearing a burgundy t-shirt, during the toe flip stuff is my old neighbour when I lived in Sweden a few years back.
A guy from Venezuela called Odla Arteaga.
awesome videos! question idea for your next ask rad rat. Are rails for your board on a comeback? ive been seeing them more and more lately. thanks for making such great content!
Thanks! I talked about those a bit before. Check Ask Rad Rat 17
I've never met someone that could do pressure flips actually hate pressure flips. They're fun though because it's such a gnarly trick to be able to pop waist high on flat ground.
What's the difference between a pressure flip and a regular trick like a kick flip? I'm not a skater, but I seen popping and whatnot.
I wish someone would give you funding to do a planet earth style history of skateboarding.
Freestyle skaters were doing a version of kickflips called the pressure flip back in the 70s. You need to look for old Russ Howell and Chris Strople footage if it is available
There was a couple of pressure flips in the LIfe video "soldiers story" even a 360 pressure to fakie on a quarter
Great commentary on pressure flips.
My thoughts. Small wheels had a part in this and the boards were really flat vs 89-91ish decks and the H-street heel concave days. It was actually really hard to pop trick. If you look back only a few guys really had a lot of pop during this phase. Personally I hated the small wheels and giant pants days so much I walked away from skating at the time and started back again years later. I still don't like video parts from that era. Gotta admit though I still like late shoves!
I think a Soldier's Story was the first video where I saw them on big boards... but Sheffey kinda stole half the show with his confidence, and Donger took the other with his pop. 1281 was the next one I remember, and the first one where they were impossible to ignore, and Ron Knigge was probably my favorite section out of that whole bunch. For us up north, that was late 91/early 92. Of course, the cool kids caught on last, and were the first to ditch when Pack of Lies came out (Sanchez did one switch pf down some stairs and that was it). I also remember an interview where Mullen remembers seeing some German freestyler do a triple pf in 1983...
I also remember a time when people would set-up for ollie impossibles by putting their front foot on the nose. At one point, they were derisively called "pressure impossibles" by at least my circle, but that's neither here-nor-there...
Your clips of Fissel have jogged my memory (yeah, he pretty much had the most variations; he certainly has the repertoire of an early adopter), but for his section (for me, at least), the standouts were that actual inward heelflip, and that (what I like to call a) Sal hardflip. Damn, I'm going to check his section again, thanks! :)
Feels like I spent ages practicing the Fakie Pressure Flip Sex Change. What I was not doing was collecting Beanie Babies, so I still stand proud.
I can pressure toe flip. They aren’t consistent yet, so I’m not gonna use them in games of skate yet
Hmm thinking about it what is the difference between 360 flips/pressure and hardflips/pressure?
Is it all in the pop or scoop? Trey flips are pretty much all scoop
popping and flipping is done by your back foot. flipping here is mostly a scoop motion
Heck,I still do pressure flips from time to time,at least the inward heelflip type and the ollie impossible in it's original form where you compress both kick tails. To be honest,I've never cared in the slightest bit what the industry thinks,considering how old I am it's not as if I'll ever be likely to ever be sponsored in the first place. If someone wants to dis on my skating for using such techniques then that's their choice but it's never gonna make me want to quit doing them,regardless. I say skate however you like,as it's nobody's business but your own,anyway.
You do know that Rodney Mullen was doing pressure flips since the 80's right???
i could never do frontside flips but i could do switch frontside 180 pressure flips and flip them so it looked like i did a switch hardflip and turned my body or like it was a switch frontside flip
You had a proper pop on your pressure flip back in the day! I did them when I started skating in the early 90s and they kind of just faded away in videos so we stopped doing them. The only time I remember making fun of them was years later when the "hard flippers" were clearly pressure flipping but acting like they were doing some insanely hard trick....I love Muska, but to my eyes a lot of his frontside flips had nothing to do with his front foot and were just frontside pressure flips
How is a 360 flip any different than a pressure flip these days ? Most ppl I see do 360 flips don’t do anything with the front foot at all. Very often the trick hugs the ground too.
Anyway, the pressure flip hate is completely new to me even though I picked up a skateboard for the first time 18 years ago. I don’t understand how ppl hate them bc in retrospect I’ve seen tons of cool things I’d classify as pressure flips
i'm exhausted and super happy!
I didnt skated for a while and i wanted to stop skating.
I've skated about 2hours and a half in two days and i've progressed soooo much!
i can ollie very well (compared to 8 months ago,because i was doing ollie in grass) and i can even pop while rolling and doing little ollies while rolling!
Everybody did pressure flips because the decks were flat when the flat ground Ollie came to be. No concave and nearly flat tail hampered most people's ability to pop. As we came into the 90's tails got steeper, they added concave and noses. My Ollie double in height. Every move we knew suddenly got reclassified, like pop shuvit. It was the era of bad Ollies.
This was a good video watched the whole thing pretty entertaining
It's kinda like what's happening now with no complys, it's starting to get hated on so much.
Hey rat I have a question. I skated in the 90s mainly girl and world boards. Imm 44 now and can still skate. I'm looking for a board mainly to ollie. Everything is much bigger now. Any tips on a board brand with decent pop for ollies?
I see them banned in games of skate alot. Ppl get pissed bc they are actually somewhat hard to do or they don't know how to and I think that's why it gets alot of hate now. Mostly bc ppl don't wanna learn it
So this clears up that weird pressure flip that I thought I created in 05, nollie pressure hardflip. Never saw it before and none if the older guys with a decade on me knew what it was. We just called it what it looked like, nollie pressure hardflip. After a while I started messing around with it. Got n p frontside flips, n p hard double flips, n p frontside double flips. Switch p hardflip and frontside flips. The hardest one by far was the nollie pressure 360 frontside flip. That thing had to be popped high and caught early to get the full 360.