Xehanort ISN'T Real, He's POSSESSED! | KH3 Theory
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Nearly 3 years ago, I uploaded a theory video called "Xehanort ISN'T Real" and at the time it seemed really far-fetched that many disbelieved it due to there being little evidence to support it. But now as years have gone by, there's a ton of evidence supporting that Xehanort isn't real and that he's possesed by some who I mentioned in the video. Alongside Xehanort being a puppet to that person as well.
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I think the reason why Xehanort made that comment about seeing what is past the keyblade war is because he's basically an old dude and needs a new body because he knows somehow about the books of prophecy. To see what is in the future he needs to be in that particular time period, not be it as a somebody but as a nobody, a different body or a heartless so that he can travel in to the future as a somebody to wherever he wishes to see what will become. There's also the reports Xehanort made and in those reports he hasn't that much knowledge and even complains that he wants to learn more but that he can't do so since he's getting old. Well just my 2 cents still love the theory tho
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I was kinda thinking that maybe Luxu thought he messed up too. According to his master after the keyblade war light would expire, but after it took place light survived. So Luxu is now operating under this idea until his master's prophecy comes true.
@@TheKingxpain Could be, the reason i think Xehanort's eyes turned yellow is because in the journals he wrote that he normally would travel with his protective suit on but after a while he tried to do it without and that there was nothing to fear. Maybe the heart of the traitor or Luxu itself resides in the darkness infecting everyone who touches the darkness. Maybe that would explain why Aqua now has the same eyes as Xehanort seeing Aqua didn't come in to contact anymore with Xehanort so it's impossible for Xehanort to even put a fragment of his heart in to hers. I think the same essence that infected Aqua also infected Xehanort when he travelled from world to world through the darkness without his protective suit on.
They are not playing chess in the land of departure but in Cable Town. I don't know if he is possessed by Luxu or not. Maybe I don't really believe in this theory. And in kingdom hearts X Ven is alive in the keyblade wars. Maybe those events weren't really 100 years ago like people say. But will see in the next game!
If this theory is indeed true. Xehanort is just a victim as everyone else, imagine him recovering his memories and realised how many lives he destroyed.
It's TRUE! I would find that to be truly crazy, imagine him fighting with us in the end before sacrificing himself to save everyone else or something
@@KingdomAce Definitely! I've got a feeling after the Xehanort saga. IF they do intend to make more games, he'll probably end up trying to redeem himself and do a sacrifice.
@@ultimusG that is if he doesn't die.
Yeah I was thinking that's how it should end with xehanort being normal again and realising what's happened and makes an apology speech right before he dies like eraqus exploding into bits of light
Amirun mate there will be more games after this. It’s pretty obvious
The idea of Xehanort being a puppet is disgusting. Having another evil dude undermines the build up for Xehanort over the last 13 years
Cake# my thoughts exactlt
@@RocksMisInternets Should KH really be taking writing lessons from that mess of a franchise?
The problem with this comment is that they aren't really changing the villain if they do this. Its still xehanort. The same xehanort that did all this horrible shit but in his true form. They aren't introducing someone new. Its like the difference between terranort and master xehanort, there is none. Personally I feel like its MoM not luxu. MoM and Xehanort are the same person just different names since we never even knew where the hell he went.
Well lets prepare for the worst then, its 99% confirmed that Xehanort is just a puppet to be used for opening KH and summon Scala to get back the world how originally was.
Xehanort, and as the other vessels, are just a medium for an end.
@@LeocaprioDinardo where is the evidence?
Imagine Xehanort regaining his true self and realizing that he killed Eraqus his equivalent of a brother/best friend.
You wanna make me cry dont you?
@@KingdomAce I mean if that happens I think all us players and Xehanort himself will be crying.
Videogame Nerd um he already knows
@@gracekim25 if he's actually being controlled by Luxu he doesn't actually know.
Videogame Nerd Er.....
I could be wrong, but I disagree with your interpretation of Master Xehanort's comment. In reading the Xehanort reports, you learn that Master Xehanort was obsessed with learning what happened in the Keyblade War. He wanted to see what occurred, and how it happened. His reasoning behind that, as he explained in both is reports and to Eraqus, is that he felt that light was too strong, and that only by having another Keyblade War would balance truly be made between light and darkness. He sought to recreate the Keyblade War, by gathering the X-blade, which he claims the Keyblade War was fought over (even though there is NO evidence in X, Back Cover, or Union X to support the existence of the X-blade). Xehanort wanted a NEW Keyblade War, so that all of the worlds could be blanketed by darkness and see if light would actually prevail. Therefore, I take his comment about "I swore I would survive and see what awaited beyond the Keyblade War" to not reference the original Keyblade War, but this new Keyblade War that he was hoping to start right then and there in the Keyblade Graveyard. He mentions that he is too old to survive the Keyblade War, but by taking Terra's body, I believe he thought that Vanitas would be successful, forge the Keyblade, unlock Kingdom Hearts, and a new Keyblade War would occur right there in the Graveyard, which he would survive by possessing Terra, and then he could see what lay beyond that war. It makes much more sense in the light of the Xehanort reports. As far as his quoting the Book of Prophecies in KH3's trailer, presuming that scene does make it into the final game as is, I believe that Xehanort has a book of prophecies, and that is what is propelling him to do all of these actions in the first place. Obviously, at the end of the first Keyblade War, darkness did not prevail, nor did light expire. I think that Xehanort thinks that the Keyblade War that he is creating will fulfill that prophecy. It doesn't seem to have crossed his mind that the Master of Masters could have completely LIED in that prophecy, PURPOSEFULLY making a false prophecy to actually engineer not only the Foretellers' actions, but Xehanort's as well. That is my theory, at least. Also, is there any OFFICIAL confirmation that the Age of Foretellers was only 100 years before BBS? I've heard that comment, but I don't remember ANYTHING specifically being said in either an interview or in game that puts the Keyblade War as only having happened 100 years prior to the main KH series. If we take that KH3 trailer scene, Xehanort asks Eraqus about the "ancient Keyblade War." If that war happened only 30-50 years prior to that scene, it seems a bit weird for him to call it "ancient," don't you think? Just curious. Thanks for your thoughts! I hope that we get definitive answers in KH3!
But it doesnt make sense how he worded it, the way he worded aludes to something that already happened, and the NEW Keyblade war have not happened yet, so sorry but your interpretation doesnt make sense, him talking about the one that already happened make way more sense
I think it can make sense, actually. Master Xehanort is dying. He is in the process of creating a new Keyblade War. He swore to himself he would live beyond that Keyblade War to see what was on the other side. If it were Luxu, then it wouldn't make sense, because he already has SEEN what was beyond the original Keyblade War: the current worlds. Luxu existed before the Keyblade War, and so he would have already known what was beyond the original Keyblade War. But Xehanort did NOT live before the Keyblade War. All he knows of the Keyblade War is what he has learned or read about it. Therefore, I think he is referring to the current Keyblade War, the war that he himself is orchestrating. Yes, he is alluding to something that has already happened, but think about how he says it. Basically, I interpret him as saying, "I swore to myself at one point in the past that I would live to see what existed beyond the Keyblade War that I am going to orchestrate, so I can see what the worlds will be like. But I'm old and dying. I need a new vessel if I'm going to survive my Keyblade War and see what lies beyond." That's how I'm taking it to mean.
Xehanort could just be talking about himself because he is an old man
Josh Henry just remember legends can loose part of the truth
Josh Henry he meant the one he’s recreating
My theory is that Xehanort has actually been possessing vessels for a multitude of years. You know when he possessed Terra and Riku? What if they weren’t the ONLY vessels Xehanort possesed? Xehanort even said in one of his reports that “Possessing vessels can allow someone to remain in the world of the living forever.” What if this has been going on for hundreds, if not THOUSANDS of years??? This process likely changed his original eyes to yellow somewhere down the line, probably because he did it so many times. But here begs the next question, who is the original Xehanort? If I had to guess, it is most certainly someone from the Xchi era of the games. That being Luxu.
Luxu was tasked by the MoM to train apprentices and pass down his Keyblade. But what if he didn’t do that? Instead, he trained worthy apprentices to their full potential. Then, he would trick them into falling into the darkness. And once they became full dark, he posssed them; just like he did with Terra and Riku. I believe Ephemer was the first person to receive this fate.
This means Luxu is actually the original Xehanort. No, he IS xehanort. He just changed his name to that later on. This also means a Young Xehanort is actually a posssesed Ephemer.
This would be a great way to not undermine Xehanort’s character too so I’m hoping it’s true.
This is AWESOME! Thanks for taking the time to leave such a detailed comment, that really made my night. You rock!!
Wait who's Ephemer?? Do you mean Ephemera???
@mario yes lol
DetectiveBobbyFulbright TheSpiritofJUSTICE Luxu isn’t evil
The part about Ephemer doesnt make any sense, also, its not really Luxu, is Luxu possessed by MoM, MoM is the true villain
If he isn’t real. Are we real is the question? 👀
@@BasedVegeta we are real god create use
@@BasedVegeta you have no proof of your theory bud
@@BasedVegeta it's just hypocritical that you flame someone else on their beliefs but when someone does it to you, you get upset.
Hey now lets just stop all this, and be respectful of one another. We're all one community and all here because of KH, let's not make it any deeper than that, we all rock! :]
Like, is any of this for real? Or not?
Everyone seems to be forgetting about Ansem/DiZ and Aqua (though I still firmly believe that Aqua scene is from either a dream or a vision).
Xehanort's eyes changing color is just him giving in to darkness. He becomes curious of a world outside his own, just like Riku. And I think what we saw is what started his curiosity. A meteor or something not-from-this-world falling from the sky. Could be a keyblade wielder doing a dive or a fight going on or a corridor of darkness that releases heartless etc
Either way, he's a teenage boy. Bored with his life and dreaming of bigger things. Adventure, power. And then this special event occurs and he sees it as a sign. Goes toward what fell down and finds sonething. I'm guessing a foreteller book. My guess is that at the same time the black box fell somewhere else. And I think the contents of that box may just contain sonething that is the opposite of the No-Name keyblade. But I digress.
I think that's how a young Xehanort starts to change. He reads about the past and future and wants to learn more and more. This is for example when he reads that he takes the No-Name. I think using this dark keyblade and by experimenting to share his heart, that's how he falls in complete darkness and eventually his eyes changing color. and so on and so forth. I doubt Nomura would undermine the mega villain he created by making him a puppet.. I mean, he even named this the Dark Seeker's Arc, referring to Xehanort.
What I do believe is that there are others like Xehanort but far more powerful. That Xehanort maybe is part of an org XIII-like thing of which he's the weakest member who was sent to scout and conquer. And by beating him, boom, new arc, bigger bads. Classic anime/shonen manga storyline. And KH is the most anime-like in story of any game ever created.
I can imagine MoM being the head of that organization and Xehanort's true identity to eventually be revealed as Luxu, but I doubt it. I think the MoM will be getting a Mickey-like role in the next arcs. I doubt very much that he'll turn out to be a bad guy. Or at least, not the traditional type of bad guy. I think he'll be an antagonist who sides as a protagonist, or a protagonist who sides as an antagonist. His ideal is to keep balance between light and dark. He doesn't want either to win or lose but rather find the perfect balance. I think he's gonna do bad when he needs to and good when he needs to. Nothing else. For example; I think if he's content with the balance that he's gonna do jack shit, for either side, and just watch it all instead. Even if a world or hero is about to be destroyed. If it doesn't disturb the balance he won't do a thing. So I actually believe that the big bad of the next arc will be someone else. So it'd be pointless if Xehanort was possessed by either MoM or Luxu
Literally my first though when I saw his eyes in the Kh3 trailer
Great minds think alike 🙇🏾♂️
I think you're right, but I think it takes agency away from Xehanort, so it makes him less interesting.
I completely agree! I'm a big fan of a villain just being evil and having their villainous agenda. That's why I love Zelda. So I'm perfectly okay if this theory doesnt prove to be true for that reason and because I had fun talking about this. And i hope you enjoyed watching :]]
@@KingdomAce I did enjoy the video
Tbh xehanort is kinda boring anyway, id be more interested if this is the case. If its not really xehanort then that means that technically hes still that evil villain, just a separate entity
@@idek5 To each their own, I suppose
I believe Xehanort is just a Luxu-posssesed Ephemer.
Good theory but who is to say the master of masters didn’t manipulate LUXU and possess him instead and then kept possessing apprentices? Could easily be the master of masters who is possessing.
That's exactly it Stephon, we have no clue haha. But it's always fun coming up with multiple different probable outcomes and scenarios based on information we've already received. At the end of the day, we have no clue thanks to how unpredictable Nomura can be xD
@@KingdomAce definitely been having trouble trusting the MoM, I've felt since the beginning that he was engineering it all to his will, not the future he saw
@@TrashPastor I mean MoM could have put more than just his Eye in that Keyblade if you know what I mean. Who is to say his heart hasn't been hitching a ride to see the future then use the body hopping time travel trick Young Xehanort used to write the book of prophecies in some sort of time paradox.
Why master of the masters want to provoke a second keyblade war?
master's eye is blue
The Keyblade War happened during the "Age of Fairy Tales," and the No Name keyblade was said to have been passed down through "generations." I highly doubt the Keyblade War was only 100 years ago since they heavily imply it's been a long time since the war in UCX, BBS, and DDD.
I mean with the mass memory wiping/altering that was supposed to happen, how long ago it actually happened is very unclear
I do not really like the idea that Xehanort can be manipulated by someone or something else, personal. I think it would completely understate the importance of the character if someone has been using him in the shadows all this time. It's a bit cliché too. Especially since it's something we've already had in KH (Ansem to Maleficent, Xemnas to other members of the Orga), that would be redundant. : /
I completely agree, we built this whole saga on Xehanort being the true villain. Taking away from that or adding sympathy to him would kinda ruin the character that had been built up
If it does turn out that he's being possessed, I honestly wouldn't mind it. Has it been done before? Yes. Is it getting old? For some people but not for me personally. In fact, if this theory were true, it would explain A LOT. It would explain why Ansem and Xemnas did the things they did. My problem with the series has always been what was the point in introducing the idea that when a nobody and heartless are destroyed, the original person returns? In fact, THAT is what ruins most of the ideas in kingdom hearts. Why go through time to collect the organization members before they perished when they could just return to their somebodies? Time travel and possession would have become pivotal concepts if not for that idea. It would've given Young Xehanort a reason to pull Xigbar and Saix from the time line for 3D. All of these loops that Xehanort has been going through would make perfect sense if he was possessed by Luxu and Luxu failed his job given to him by the master.
@@KingdomAce I personally do not think that sympathy is a bad thing. Having sympathy doesn't absolve someone of their sins. If this does turn out to be the case then we could compare him to riku. Both were coerced and possessed by a dark force. The difference is that riku fought the darkness and xehanort embraced it. Riku make up for his mistakes through a crap ton of work and sacrifice. Xehanort hasnt so in my mind he will be just a culpable as before.
@@edgartrujillo5030 If there's anything I didn't like about the KH franchise, it's the whole Nobodies can regrow hearts thing. It pretty much nullifies the point of their existence.
Guys be ready then for the biggest dissapointment of your life.
Its almost confirmed that Xehanort is just a puppet being used to open KH and using it to take back the world how was originally aka scala.
Get ready!
What’s crazy is that whoever is here after beating kh3 will truly understand how much sense this made. The gold eyes is prolly luxu eyes which is why xehanort eyes weren’t gold when he was young. Also why xigbar never turned into a xehanort zombie and how luxu even as a nobodie still acknowledges himself as luxu and not a new name
1 problem I have with this theory is if luxu possed xehanort while he was training to be a keyblade wielder. why does young xehanort have yellow eyes in dream drop distance even though he's from the time before he left destiny island and went to the land of departure to train to be a keyblade wielder
Cooool! Love the theory :)
The give away is sweet too, luckily I have already pre-ordered KH3, so I'm hoping another soul will get it ❤️
Thanks so much Danna!! And I'm so glad you'll be experiencing the game Day One too, thanks for giving others a chance. You rock ❤
Luxu saw the ending of the first keyblade war & so did no name. There’s a cut scene for it.
Wow, amazing! Great video. One thing is for sure, soon we will all have the answers, and many many more questions.
Thanks so much Miduuza! It's an honor! :] And yes, I hope KH3 will give us all the answers we've been seeking. Let's hope!
Another line that supports your theory is when Eraqus says "theres more to light than meets the eye" and Xehanort responds "I hope so." Why would he want the light to overcome darkness and he be surprised by it. Because he wants to see what happens after.
This is an excellent theory and it makes sense and the proof is in your video because Luxu said he wanted to "see the world end then set off" I've been playing Khux since it's release in 2014 on Google play store so I've been keeping up with the plot lines thus far and I've been playing kingdom hearts since it's original release back in 2002 but I digress lol, anyway when Xehanort took over Terra's body he was about 52, 53 years of age....roughly and when he uttered the line "I swore I would survive to see what lies beyond the keyblade war" even back then it didn't make sense because the keyblade war was hundreds of years prior to birth by sleep so when we got the Kh3 trailer a few days ago we see Xehanort's eyes glow with a strange purple aura so Xehanort had to be possessed by something or in this case someone all in all this theory video makes awesome sense I love it keep up the exceptional work bro you just got a new subscriber!
Thanks so much man, I worked really hard to have at least most of my facts straight xD thanks for join the community, it's an honor to have ya!
Hey :)I love your videos and this theory,I can't wait to see what KH3 has in store for us,please keep up the amazing work,ill be woching.:)
You've been here for years so I appreciate all the support all this time :]
@@KingdomAce ^.^ Your welcome.
That moment when every kh video you see makes you afraid about getting spoiled 😣😣😣
No worries Jos, this channel will not post ANY spoilers whatsoever. I take pride in only posting my own personal theories/speculation, or anything official shown off by Square :]
I would always joke about making a flow-chart about the general ingredients of each character (Sora possessing 2 hearts, Ventus having only possessed half an heart, etc.) but this just adds another layer over that.
My bad 😂😅
You know you need to revisit this idea again!!
What about now after the KHUX ending?
Wowza I love your theory!!! Man this has my head spinning but gives me an eerie feeling... who's the true enemy.
Thanks so much! I'm glad you enjoyed the video!! And we never know, Nomura is pretty unpredictable xD
@@KingdomAce I would love to see your theory come true ! It's very balanced and sticks to the facts . If it happens to be true you called it lol
I have a theory about the guardian. What if they guardian that terranort and ansem SoD use is the no name keyblade from Master xehanort. That could be the reason why xemnas dont use one. He is not possesed by the guardian, i mean technicaly is xemnas terras nobody. And lets look at the Fight between terranort and aqua. In the first stage terra uses his keyblade, but in the secend he only use his guardian. Maybe this could mean the guardian can transform.. but all of this are just thoughts^^ sry for Bad english..
You could say Xehanort isn't real, but what if its something of the opposite? What if Xehanort willing became apart of his master in order to help him realize his dream? I understand the new trope is to redeem many villains these days but after everything that's happened, I'd really dislike the idea of some mysterious master puppeteer hiding in the shadows, one we know barely anything about, being the mastermind.
I completely understand that, Zelda: Twilight Princess took that same approach and I felt it was such a let-down
@@KingdomAce Actually Skyward Sword took that approach, Twilight Princess foreshadowed Ganondorf's influence in the game back at the end of the first trip to the Arbiter's Ground.
It was still shoehorned. Ripping away who was built up originally. Demise you fight his Imprisoned form numerous times. And they make it known that Ghirihim was just his subordinate
yes love your way you do the analization :)
Thanks so much Alin!! You rock!!
Also loved your theory man
Man this is so in-depth I hope it comes true I think I will but the thought keeps coming back nobody has predicted kingdom hearts before the only person to be more in depth in game theory
I doubt anyone will be 100% correct in a KH theory mainly due to the unpredictable nature of Nomura. It's almost like he watches out videos and tries to make things different because of them xD
KingdomAce you’re right I don’t even think game theory was 100% right but I think that your still a close second to him and I do think they watch are videos how else would we never be right
KingdomAce you’re right I don’t even think game theory was 100% right but I think that your still a close second to him and I do think they watch are videos how else would we never be right
I do think MatPat was wrong on quite a few thing, that's why his dislikes on the video were high at one point alongside Twitter blowing up about how he calculated time travel incorrectly in his video. But other than KH vids. I love his videos
KingdomAce to each his own
I love this theory. I'd like to add something I've noticed.
Every organization member has a X in their nobody name( ie Sora becomes Roxas, Lea became Axel. And so forth) and if you take the X out of Xehanort it can be rearrange to NoHeart or Another.
Mhm, I remember finding this out a little bit after Birth By Sleep came out and I nearly spit out my drink! Also, thanks for the kind words, Tony. You rock! I hope to see you around more often!!
The theory you presented is possibly the potential case, however, knowing Nomura, he might create a new game on the phone or something to reveals something we dont know. I picture him making a game or something to explain the master's origins that will explain why Xehanort is the way he is. Maybe it might even be both and it will further Luxu as a character. Personally I'd like to see a new trio (i digress) and an explanation to what created the idea that light couldnt be shared with everyone. (The thing that started the key blade war)
Ya never really know thanks to the unpredictable nature of Nomura xD only time will tell I guess. But I hope you enjoyed the video!
@@KingdomAce most definitely
Is there a citation for the 100 year gap? In addition, the opening trailer is mostly symbolic and a giant metaphor. His eye color changing is entirely a metaphor about his way of thinking or deciding to take action.
On a side note, anyone ever notice that Young Xehanort’s Keyblade (or at least the top of it) is the exact same emblem as the Master of Master’s supposed chess piece? Or am I just behind?
You just blew my mind
🙇🏾♂️✊🏾
When watching this trailer a few times and someone pointed out his eyes, I kind of thought about this idea.
Ya never really know thanks to how unpredictable Nomura is xD but I'm glad we think alike! I hope you enjoyed the video!!
i think this is a good theory. with the addition of MoM and Luxu it gives a couple different paths to how this might unfold. i believe there are 3 probable theories and one of them will most likely be true.
1. xehanort was obsessed with the book of prophecies and the keyblade war to the point where he gave in to darkness and the events play out the way we see now. this is the most reasonable theory and was assumed true until they dropped the movie for 2.8
2. your theory is pretty accurate to how i think it would play out if Luxu turned to darkness. either he got obsessed with his role given to him or was corrupted some other way
3. the MoM is xehanort. he gave Luxu his eye to witness the keyblade war and what lay beyond so he could be informed through his tome important events. why does he want that to happen? well the keyblade war seems to be thought to do 2 different things, either forging the true X blade that summons kingdom hearts or just summons kingdom hearts itself. And we know the MoM chose 6 apprentices gifting them with keyblades forged from their hearts the way yen sid could forge keyblades for wielders, meaning he was probably the first to be able to do so. i can see him as been obsessed with trying to forge the true X blade to summon the powers of kingdom hearts for himself but failing until he learned its possible through war, so he puts events into motion that pits the foretellers and all their groups to distrust eachother creating more and more tension until an inevitable war takes place. him not wanting to be caught in the conflict himself put his own heart in the black box. he seems like he knows exactly how each foreteller thinks and the way they will react to situations, you can see him play off of their strengths and weaknesses when assigning them orders. he knew aced would end up trying to take lead, he knew gula would be careful and not give information away about the missing page even when his fellow foretellers started accusing eachother. he knew ava would follow her orders well and send keyblade wielders to escape(possibly as insurance vessels of kids with the power to wield keyblades). and he knew luxu was loyal but curious, that he would succeed in witnessing the events of the war for the tome but would fail in stopping himself from opening the box and being possessed by the MoM. the issue i have here though is that if the MoM is still trying to make this work that means the first war failed in its goal and when he came into the possession of his new vessel he had to make knew plans, but if the war failed and Luxu did infact witness it then the MoM would have known this via the tome and possible made knew plans?. it seems to me there is definitely something to this theory cause i dont think the MoM is as good as the foretellers make him out to be, but its possible that plots made by the MoM are in progress but happen to be completely separate from the plans made by xehanort.
damn that was long >< i understand if no one reads it lol
I love long comments! So thanks for taking the time to type it and geez, that's all so crazy xD
But yeah we never really know because of Nomura's unpredictability, yanno?
I know it's definitely up in the air, but I have a strong feeling that MoM is responsible. The last scene, where he gives Luxu the instructions, really hits it home for me. He clearly was consumed by madness at this time. The phrasing, the movements, and the music (especially the music) were screaming out one message: this guy is evil, and his plan was working.
The reason why I think he wasn't successful however, involves an interesting statement he made about how the person with the evil looking keyblade (which is his, and has his eye). One can see the future with that eye, but the person with the key blade has to be physically there to witness stuff. Ergo, it allows some pieces of the future to be seen, but not all of it. That might play a huge part in determining the outcome as well, as KH3 will likely have the Xehanort team overwhelm most of the good guys, until they figure out how to interrupt that connection.
Sorry for my massive body of text as well!
MoM being yet another version of Xehanort is too on the nose I think though. It seems like a feint. I am really starting to believe that the MoM is a version of Sora. I have been thinking a lot about what Riku would have to say to Sora to get him to scream like that? The MoM's oddly aloof/silly personality and that blue eye that sits in his keyblade. I'm scared for our boy Sora and I think he might have learned he fell to the darkness and that a lot of what's happened in this world is directly because of him.
It could be the master of Masters or the one that actually wanted to summon Kingdom Hearts gula. Or luxu the master of Masters gave him the keyblade that xehanort now uses but there's still that big black box also a few characters that shouldn't exist in Union Union Cross are in the original
This is why kingdom hearts has the best story ever
I thought the panther mask guy wanted to make kingdom hearts
@@MoMagnus93 he did i forgot to write his name. i fixed it
"I swore I'd survive, to see what lies beyond kingdom hearts 2"
I did think it was weird. but it was because of your video. I totally agree. Nothing xehanort said in those moments made sense at face value.
I think Xehanorth is poseded by the Master of Master from the movie !
I wonder 🤔
@@KingdomAce
Yes , Me too . That's could explain a lot of things !
nice theory but you have to understand that luxu was told to not interfere and to only pass down his keyblade we have no knowledge of the eraqus and xehanorts master and if you look at their relationship and how it unfolded in BBS eraqus had a feeling xehanort did not change but had no CLUE the exact nature of how far he was willing to go, that being said wouldnt it be safe to say xehanort has always known more due to his need to know more about darkness he somehow was able to inform maleficent on the book of prophecies i just feel like if luxu took over xehanort why did the MOM not just do that himself he told Luxu if the keyblade makes it to the future then thats a testament of him already completing his mission no name being in xehanorts hand means luxu did not fail also the xchi scene with maleficent speaking to the unknown pigment of darkness he told her she cannot interfere in the events that are to unfold but that he would still send her back. funny that happens and now shes searching for the black box if ventus being a dandelion survived this long its safe to say luxu was able to do the same thing even the chirithy exisiting is proof there are spaces untouched by time
I have a feeling that the dark charithy from kh ux has something to do with it. Since the dark charithy was around during the events before they keyblade war. It also has a reason why charithy was seen in kh3.
Damn this theory actually seem plausible and the only way I wouldn’t mind if xehanort was possessed
Thanks so much Andyy!! You rock!! I appreciate the feedback, I'll do my best to carry this grind throughout 2019!
Well it would make sense because it would explain where the idea for the black coats came from. However all I want to know is WHATS IN THAT BLACK BOX!!!
What about luzxu's appearance at the end of the opening theme in a fragmentary passage???? like this all makes sense but if he is xeanort how does he appear there again in his old form?????
Ik it!!😲😲 I always suspected it, ty for proving me right
As soon as i heard Xehanort recite that line it clicked! It very well could be Luxu! I also can't shake this unsettling feeling that a future version of Sora is the master of masters.
I think the No Name keyblade, not only contains MoM eye, but also his soul and heart
I'd like to believe that Luxu and Xehanort are both possessed at times by the master of masters and the "X" just tells you where he is at any one time. Like "X" marks the spot. And that a possession of a new body kinda merges the masters heart with the new heart.
The master disappeared, much like how Xehanort disappeared when going into Terra. Terra-north never really had full memories or control, so maybe they blend together. Like a Majin buu situation.
This sounds too good, i think you may be right or at least very close to being true, good stuff 👌🏼
I hope so and dont hope so xD it makes sense but just like any theory, there are some holes here and there. Unlike most people, I don't make theories I actually believe fully. Maybe bits and pieces but i like diving into stuff we already know and analyzing jt trying to come up with possible scenarios. Even if i highly doubt it'd happen. These theory videos are just for fun and i know people like watching them! So thanks for not being like some people who've commented!! :]
My counter point would be that when he says he swore he would live to see the other side of the keyblade war, couldn't he be referring to the new war he was creating, since taking control of terra's body would allow him to live to see the other side of it all.
That's a good point. However, to me it seems like hes talking as if the war had already happened
I just assumed he was talking about the upcoming keyblade war not the one of the past
I thought the same thing that xehanort isn't exactly in control as the moment after terranort happens and he gets amnesia and struggles to know who he is it's only the moment he summons the eye keyblade that he says his name is ansem and I thought that might have been the master of masters real name having not seen the movie back cover
actually,terranort proceeds to banish ansem the wise after that and rewrite history to make himself the great guy ansem.so that just happened to take another identity.this was out of pure obsession for the goals of power and darkness and backlash against ansem the wise himself(which would later became characteristics of ansem,sod and xemnas).but it probably also was because of a mild identitycrisis because master xehanort and terra were still fighing inside of the guy for final control,so he maybe also was confused at the time
One question I have not played Union X, but why would the master of masters set up the foretellers roles to make conflict with each other?
To cause the Keyblade War to take place. But as of right now, we have no idea why he would set them up or why he'd wanna start a keyblade war. We could say to help Luxu's role take place and set up for the future.
Wasn't the forging of the x-blade supposed to trigger another keyblade war which is the one Xehanort is referring to? And his eyes being yellow could be explained by him falling to darkness which he might not have been as of the time of the chess game.
The x-blade was another method having an edge in the keyblade war. As Xehanort already planned to possess Terra as "the final union".
We will have to wait until after Kh3 when the prediction is that the Master of Masters makes their return.
Hm I wonder where he disappeared to? 🤔 may or may not have a video on that topic soon :]
very good point! i gotta say, i was already hype as fuck for KH3, but after watching your videos im 100X more hype. Another great video my dude, great work!
Thanks Michael!! I'll continue doing my best!!
Wouldn’t it be crazy if Sora was the younger Xehanort we have seen from the chess board scene. The Sora he took over was the one that won the second keyboard war seen from the Final trailer. Xehanort did somehow take over his body and went back in time during young Earqus’s time to begin his plan again.
I'd literally take out my brain and throw it away because Nomura just blew my mind
Honestly in my point of view i always thought he was possessed...because if his eyes was gray at first..then maybe he wasnt the only one looking at the purple light...or what was that purple light?
Loved the video. This was something that I always considered tbh. I'm not saying that this dude completely innocent but considering how the darkness overtook a keyblade master such as aqua then Xehanort, who most likely allowed himself to be a vessel of darkness in order to pursue his original goal, is even more likely to have been overtaken and used by it. I know some ppl are kinda shook by this possibility but it's not the most impossible or complex theory. And this is also more likely to be the case since we know that there is more to KH than the Xehanort Saga (or seekers of darkness saga or whatever ppl wanna call it lmao)
The only problem I have is that if he is some sort of puppet it does take away from the respect I have for Xehanort as a villain considering the buildup he has had for basically my entire life of playing the game.
Hey KingdomAce, you should make a video on the first keyblade war and what happened. I'm trying to piece together this stuff but I'm so confused
Also, could you make a discord? Would love to talk about possible theories
I’m really waiting for Xehanort to be revealed as the Master Of Masters or a descendent
Only time will tell, ya never know xD KH3 is almost upon us
I love it. Master of Master has a story and the secret box has a story, just remember!!
Cannot be forgotten 😎
You know, it could also mean that the grey-eyed xehanort was the version of him before he submitted to the darkness
It's true young xehanort has Grey eyes but old xehanort has orange eyes
I belivie one person...open the box (u khow what box) inside the box is the heart of master of masters..and possessed xehanorh
This has been my theory since Kh2
He talking about a second Keyblade War.
The keyblade itself has luxu's soul. That is...Xehanort's keyblade. "The masters eye" is the eye in the keyblade. The one that opens and closes...
Maybe he’s not being taken over, but simply influenced by The Masters of Master’s Keyblade. We still don’t know what was in that box!
That's true! A big goal for the Organization in Kh3 is to find the box that Luxu was meant to guard. But yanno, I've got a theory in mind on where it is 👀
maybe he just wants to see what is in the box he was never allowed to open
Is any of this for real? Or not?
when xehanort said that line it was probably cause in the past when he was playing with master eraqus he had seen on the chessboard all the evens leading up to the key blade war, but he probably lost to eraqus meaning that in the end he would lose to sora which is why he says that he will live to see what happens beyond the current key blade war or to him the future key blade war. xehanort believes he can change the outcome from the chessboard which is why he tries so hard to make sora a vessel so that there is no opposition in the end. i remember in one trailer xehanort told eraqus he would win the chessboard but Eraqus said he would show xehanort that he could still win even with only one piece left that piece being sora. this is my theory i don't believe xehanort is possessed but only time will tell.
Mh, you making me think if Xehanort was possess by the box. I think Lucu opened the box.
He has to be the master of masters
The events of chi were only 100 Years ago?
I figured it was thousands
Wait so Luxu possessed Master Xehanort plus no name keyblade has Master of masters eye if I'm not mistaken right?
Yup! That's the theory anyway xD I honestly doubt its 100% true but I'm sure some parts will prove to be so. And yes, the Master of Master's eye is in the No Name Keyblade, that's how he's been able to write the book of prophecies because hes seen the future thanks to the keyblade
Xehanort or no heart was probably inside the black box. A vessel for luxu. Luxu himself (body) could be inside the black box now. As you saw xehanorts body vanished when he took Terra's. Luxu's body is gone but the box holds his essence. X could simply be the factor that determines who receives luxu's heart. X=heart
Not gonna lie and to be honest if he really is luxu we will try to find out and see what happens.
How are we supposed to know the time frame of when things took place? Because I've been wanting to know when did "Back cover" take place as far as time frame
Back Cover takes place 100 years ago during the events of Kingdom Hearts X, it's the same story just from the prospective of the Foretellers!
@@KingdomAce Thank You bro.
Of course! Anything for a Loyal Knight!
Does that mean that Xehanort was already possessed when he was on destiny islands in that scene where he says “this world is just too small”?
No, I feel that was before hand and that he always felt that way about Destiny Islands. But when he met himself from the future and was told about what he had to do, that was his incentive to leave his small world behind.
KingdomAce Ok I get you, but what I don’t get is what you said about Roxas’s dual wield ability. You said that he can wield 2 because of sora and ventus. That makes no sense because sora wasn’t chosen, as said in DDD, he can only wield it because of Ven. So shouldn’t roxas behave the same? Shouldn’t he only be able to wield one key blade like sora?
Sora wasnt chosen, that's correct. But the thing is, he still was given it in the end. He only got it due to Riku going rogue. So the keyblade went down the list to the next worthy person. He may not have been the first choice but he still is the chosen wielder of the keyblade. That's why when riku took the keyblade in KH1, Sora truly proved himself worthy by standing up to riku even without it and the keyblade went back to him. So Roxas gets his ability for 2 keyblades from both Sora and Ventus
KingdomAce Well then, why does xigbar mention “as if it would pick a dud like you” sora responda that it didn’t choose him when clearly it did?
He's taunting him in the fact that he wasnt the first choice
The only thing that doesn't make sense about this theory is that in one of the trailers of KH3 it looks like the new org is looking for the box that luxu had. If Xehanort was Luxu was wouldn't he know where the box was or already have it in his possession?
Wait, where did they specify that there are 100 years between the keyblade war and kh?
Right here! www.kh13.com/news/new-interview-with-tetsuya-nomura-detailing-kingdom-hearts-hd-28-final-chapter-prologue
He wants to start another keyblade war to see what happens. At least that’s what I’ve come to believe.
That's pretty much what I've said, but like I said in the video. Why would he say "he swore he would survive to see what lied beyond the keyblade war" as if past tense. Meaning he apparently missed it. Then my theory comes into play
KingdomAce maybe he was referring to the future keyblade war he wants to recreate. However, I like your theory better.
We never really know considering how unpredictable Nomura is xD
KingdomAce Everything is connected back to sora. All the games are important to the plot :). All The pieces to the puzzle will come together
the problem is....if he missed the first keybladewar,he just missed it.there is no confirmation the same thing would happen again and writing it down like what happened around the time of the first war would just mean to sabotage the historical accuracy of the tome of prophercys.either he does it for himself or the whole thing is basicly nomura trying to write something smart that is actually kinda dumb to be honest
But what if the Master of Master didn't really want that maybe he regretted it at some point.
That's highly possible as well! What I'm curious about is Nomura said in an interview that we wont see the MoM in KH3 which makes me wonder how some questions we have can be answered
Its been expected for years kind sir.
I think that the one who possessed Xehanort is the evil Xehanort, odds are that that moment in the Opening Trailer is just for effects and besides in the only flashback with Xehanort we saw, his eyes were already Yellow before leaving Destiny Islands, not saying it's as impossible as we thought Ventus being a Dandelion was when NicoB used his Ultimate Bullcrap Powers to predict that Aqua, Terra, or Ventus were Dandelions the day before Ventus was confirmed as a Dandelion, but it's unlikely
I'm not sure an evil Xehanort would need to possess a "good" Xehanort because since Time travel is involved and we know older Xehanort is evil, he wouldnt need to possess himself as he would become evil one day anyways. Also p.s. I love NicoB, picky penguins for life homie ✊🏾
I think that you may have read from the very beginning in the wrong way, I wasn't being literal in saying Xehanort possessed himself, but more like there's no hidden puppeteer controlling him behind the scenes like you and some of the X-Keepers theorized, hence the middle, and truthfully I'm fairly new to being a Picky Penguin, I first heard of him probably a month before 2.8 came out, and had laughs watching his content occasionally ever since and can't wait for him to react to Union Cross and play 3, I'm counting on him freaking out seeing Aqua and Demyx
Great man I really approve yur theory
Thanks Harris, I really appreciate it!
Whew that theory gave me a lot to rethink. Because if it is true and Xehanort was possessed all this time then this would be a truly mind blowing revelation.
I feel the same way! I'm honestly not sure itll be 100% true anyways due to the unpredictable nature of Nomura xD but if it was that'd be a crazy turn of events
I really don’t need a free copy of KH3 😅 (I’ve already preordered) but cool theory
Dude he is talking about the keyblade war thats going to be in kh3 between the 13 darkness and 7 guardians
Oh my god it's the master of masters ultimate plan
🤔
It can be the master of masters who’s the evil one
That's means that--the pattern of re arranging names and such.... the possessed.... his name isn't Xehanort then, right?
He's "Another X" (Key).
What if it isnt Luxu, and its the MoM? He faded, "disappeared"
This wouldn’t be too far-fetched seeing the same happened to Madara in Naruto.
Seeing this comparison often, and I highly agree. Not necessarily saying I agree with either scenario as Kaguya felt a bit shoehorned in. And doing the same in KH would give me a similar feeling. But I'm sure I'd still enjoy it as I did with Naruto
What is this sorcery?
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@@KingdomAce I think he was making a joke
I think young xehanort is LUXU, his name has an X. We dont know how he looks like, he has the ram keyblade which is now luxu and mabey was possesed by this Pearson known as xehanort
I'm willing to believe Luxu was Xehanort(and Eraqus)'s master, but I'm not sure about him starting the chain of possessions. What I'm very skeptical of instead is what some people say about the MoM being the one doing all the possessions time and time again. I mean certainly he's ambiguous as hell since it seems he set his kids up for failure to begin with, but - and forgive me if I'm mistaken - what is the point of putting your eye in a keyblade that passes down generations if you're already witnessing everything first hand cause you possess people? Seems like a redundant thing to do. In this light Luxu is a more probable culprit.
I couldnt have said it better myself!!
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YX could be the MoM due to his attraction to MX's "No name" keyblade.
Source: Kh Re Coded Secret Ending
It leads very well to YX doing his own thing and seemingly helping Sora in KH3 at times because YX's goal is different from MX's.
If this is true, the question I have is:
How does Lux's task of taking "No name" throughout history lead into MX trying to take Kingdom Hearts? I been thinking about this a lot I'm so confused rn 😭
Sound theory however it's way off base as well as Luxu isn't confirmed in KH3 at all. Though Nomura did mention the new union leaders would have a hand in the game. In what way we don't know.