What I remember though is that Tarkin found that Clones were too expensive to create. But then again he found the Death Star something brilliant so....
Well we all know that clones can be controlled via the chip inside their heads so Tarkin and the Empire didn't want to fall onto the sword they've used to hunt down the jedis and destroyed the Republic
This is funny, the Bad Batch performed well and with no difficulty when it was just training rounds or in another sense an even playing field. But when the odds were so against them during the live rounds and was caught by surprise they won and survived, then Tarkin said nope clones are no good when the thing he was looking for the Empire that would have win against the Rebellion in the future. Most of the Empire’s armies have been fcked by rebellion’s guerilla tactics or situations that gave the Empire some poor odds against them similar to the live rounds part.
He probably realized these clones were too smart and might have a chance of betraying the Empire and join the rebellion. Idk tho i haven't watched bad batch yet
I don’t think the decision truly rested on Tarkin’s shoulders. The Emperor felt that the loyalty of the clones would always be put into question. Also the close call with some of clones having defective chips almost activating or outright mutinying after order 66. They were also super expensive to make and maintain more so than the droid army. Not to mention extremely unpopular with members of the public. Using an imperial army consisting of conscripts, and volunteers would be more cost effective. Then using the clones to transition to storm troopers which originally were the cream of the crop in terms of imperial training and technology.
the problem with the clones is that they worked with the Jedi and saw no examples of the "treason" that they did, and all were aware of Order 66's existance. With them around it was only a matter of time
@@TheSpecter4567 Why do you think that? I think its good, of course it would be cooler If it would be like Battlefront 2005 but it wouldn't make much sense to be honest.
@@Juras181 the battlefront reasoning could have made sense if we saw more perspectives other than the 501st and sometimes the 212th. most jedi leaned more towards krell than towards anakin and obi wan in terms of how good leaders they were on the battlefield
Oh that's interesting i didn't knew that. I thought that the Jedi in general where relatively nice But overall the risk would still have been significantly higher that a clone would refuse orders or that the truth would come to light, before order 66 is executed, right? Especially because there were Jedi like Obi-wan, Anakin and Plo Koon.
Remember, these are not regular clones. They are free thinkers. Tarkin saw them do this, a scenario he probably designed to make the clones fail, and they still beat it. Regular clones would not do that. So, he recommends that the clones be phased out. Problem is, who is to say that normal people would perform as well.
Even Then That's giving Tarkin WAY More Benefit of The Doubt he derseves. Guy was the Most Responsible maybe right after Sidious for not only the Empire Track Record against The Rebellion but It's General Inefectivess and Incompetente even Without going into the Whole Death Star Fiasco.
Tarkin (And Sidious Let's be Fair) After Seeing All of That: "Meh, Not Worth The Credits, Stormtroopers, Death Stars and Fear Based Tatics ans Ruling Is Where It's At!"
![Umbara Clones (501st) vs Clones (212th) Battle [4K HDR] - Star Wars: The Clone Wars](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/gEkt1I-GFXk/mqdefault.jpg)
![[MV] A leap of faith...ความเชื่อใจครั้งสุดท้าย (From "Petrichor the series")](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/U1piZH2CNXA/mqdefault.jpg)
even after all that Tarkin was like nope Clones are no good
He really just doesn’t like clones.
It wasn’t Clones as a whole he found insufficient because of the drill, it was the task force that showed a staggering amount of free will.
What I remember though is that Tarkin found that Clones were too expensive to create. But then again he found the Death Star something brilliant so....
@@solidnomad488 The empire is known to be a hypocrite system
Well we all know that clones can be controlled via the chip inside their heads so Tarkin and the Empire didn't want to fall onto the sword they've used to hunt down the jedis and destroyed the Republic
2:33 Echo charging in and around like a real arc trooper. Too beautiful.
Tarkin was such an idiot for getting rid of the clones
Tarkin is just an idiot overall
No, because the clones reacted to Order 66, this could be employed against Inquisitors and was effectively.
This is funny, the Bad Batch performed well and with no difficulty when it was just training rounds or in another sense an even playing field. But when the odds were so against them during the live rounds and was caught by surprise they won and survived, then Tarkin said nope clones are no good when the thing he was looking for the Empire that would have win against the Rebellion in the future. Most of the Empire’s armies have been fcked by rebellion’s guerilla tactics or situations that gave the Empire some poor odds against them similar to the live rounds part.
He probably realized these clones were too smart and might have a chance of betraying the Empire and join the rebellion. Idk tho i haven't watched bad batch yet
That's because 99' were free thinkers, he didn't want troopers who could think, he wanted loyalty, obedience, canon fodder.
I still hold that that knife shot is one of the best shots in Star Wars
Getting rid of the clones, I understand. But they should have kept the training facilities and procedures
In the Legends storyline they did. Commander Cody was even stationed there to train new recruits.
Hate to Tarken ----------->
Real
I love, when the Katarn-class armor works, unlike in the last episode of seasion 3, with Scorch.
The just had to make Commandos glorified body guards that were slightly better than TKs and CTs.
@@willwolf8436 True. Such a disrespect to the best Clone troopers.
Awesome clip, thanks for the upload. Bad Batch is awesome.
I don’t think the decision truly rested on Tarkin’s shoulders. The Emperor felt that the loyalty of the clones would always be put into question. Also the close call with some of clones having defective chips almost activating or outright mutinying after order 66. They were also super expensive to make and maintain more so than the droid army. Not to mention extremely unpopular with members of the public. Using an imperial army consisting of conscripts, and volunteers would be more cost effective. Then using the clones to transition to storm troopers which originally were the cream of the crop in terms of imperial training and technology.
the problem with the clones is that they worked with the Jedi and saw no examples of the "treason" that they did, and all were aware of Order 66's existance. With them around it was only a matter of time
@ definitely the weakest piece of Star Wars lore is the clone troopers betrayal being brain chips.
@@TheSpecter4567
Why do you think that?
I think its good, of course it would be cooler If it would be like Battlefront 2005 but it wouldn't make much sense to be honest.
@@Juras181 the battlefront reasoning could have made sense if we saw more perspectives other than the 501st and sometimes the 212th. most jedi leaned more towards krell than towards anakin and obi wan in terms of how good leaders they were on the battlefield
Oh that's interesting i didn't knew that. I thought that the Jedi in general where relatively nice
But overall the risk would still have been significantly higher that a clone would refuse orders or that the truth would come to light, before order 66 is executed, right?
Especially because there were Jedi like Obi-wan, Anakin and Plo Koon.
Remember, these are not regular clones. They are free thinkers. Tarkin saw them do this, a scenario he probably designed to make the clones fail, and they still beat it. Regular clones would not do that. So, he recommends that the clones be phased out. Problem is, who is to say that normal people would perform as well.
Even Then That's giving Tarkin WAY More Benefit of The Doubt he derseves. Guy was the Most Responsible maybe right after Sidious for not only the Empire Track Record against The Rebellion but It's General Inefectivess and Incompetente even Without going into the Whole Death Star Fiasco.
All this just to replace them with stormtroopers, smh
Tarkin (And Sidious Let's be Fair) After Seeing All of That: "Meh, Not Worth The Credits, Stormtroopers, Death Stars and Fear Based Tatics ans Ruling Is Where It's At!"
What a Shot hell yeah.
And then he got rid of them. No wonder he lost the Battle over Yavin
It was not meant to be a test, it was meant to be an execution.